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Indian Coach Ravi "The Cheerleader" Shastri Performance Watch

sensible-indian-fan said:
We are hurting.

We are humiliated.

We lost despite having the talent to beat England in England.

But this is not the end.

Test cricket is best cricket and a series win there overshadows everything.

If there's one man who can turn it around for the Indian team, it's Shastri.

Fasten your seatbelts, folks.

Because Shastri is gonna come back ROARING and so will Team India.
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The three stars on the kit symbolise the three stars this Indian team has, namely Kohli the killer, Ravi the tracer bullet shastri & last but not the least, Rohit the Tailunt 'I'll see you in India' Sharma.

With MSD most certainly gone into the oblivion after this series, the ungrateful Indian fans would soon realise how hollow their young stars, & the coach are.
 
Shastri is like the Indian movie hero.

First, the hero takes all the blows thereby giving the villain a false sense of victory.

Just when the villain thinks he has won, the hero RISES FROM THE ASHES and transforms into a BEAST and goes on to POUND the villain into SUBMISSION.

Want to know how things are going to play out in the upcoming series?

Watch this video from 3:13

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Kabadi...kabaddi....kabaddiiiiiii
 
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I don't know what is bigger joke Kohli the captain or Shastri the coach. :inti
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Shastri is like the Indian movie hero.

First, the hero takes all the blows thereby giving the villain a false sense of victory.

Just when the villain thinks he has won, the hero RISES FROM THE ASHES and transforms into a BEAST and goes on to POUND the villain into SUBMISSION.

Want to know how things are going to play out in the upcoming series?

Watch this video from 3:13

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Kabadi...kabaddi....kabaddiiiiiii
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Mate I'm still waiting on your apology for ek tha tiger being filmed in my country.
 
:ravi will bounce back like a bright red preening cockerel, all these people mocking him won't know what hit them.

Seriously though, his comportement during this tour has been shocking. For someone that has played county cricket and is knowledgeable enough to realize that the team has to acclimatize to these conditions, his approach to preparation and selection has been utterly bizarre.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Mate I'm still waiting on your apology for ek tha tiger being filmed in my country.
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Haha.

I apologize on behalf of Bollywood for dragging your country's name through the mud.

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On topic, we are batting better this test.

You know why?

Bcos of Shastri's inspiration.

GO BOYS.
 
Won't get the credit he deserves for this wonderful fightback by his team. The power of positive thinking faire maketh a coaching legend sans pareil.
 
Shashtri is a special character one has to admit.He is bold (& beautiful :wa) ,has a stubborn character,has vast cricketing knowledge.When he was appointed for Indian team,i was convinced that India chose the right person.Virat and Shastri both are such characters who can compliment each other and can easily get along well with one another.
 
I seriously don't understand why he has been tagged as cheerleader!!! Any specific interesting event which I missed? :steyn
 
Told you guys.

Will take in blows first and just when his opponent thinks its all over, he will power up and destroy him.

Potential ATG coach.
 
What a man !

Bowlers bowling in the right areas, balls fizzing through like tracer bullets straight into the hands of men lounging in the slips, just what the doctor ordered this morning.
 
Credit where its due.

Shastri has turned around the attitude of this bunch if guys.
 
The more the fans hate Shastri, the more he keeps coming back and annoy them further :))
 
Mohammad Azharuddin questions role of coaching staff after repeated batting failures

Former India captain Mohammad Azharuddin has questioned the role of India coaching staff after repeated batting failures have resulted in yet another Test series defeat. At Southampton, chasing 245, India were bowled out for 184 which handed a 3-1 series clinching victory to England with a Test remaining.

“We lost the series because of poor batting and our batsmen were committing the same mistakes throughout. What is our coaching staff doing?” Azharuddin was quoted as saying by The Times of India on Tuesday.

While Virat Kohli has scored in excess of 500 runs across eight innings so far, has has found little to no support from his teammates. The top order has found itself at sea when the conditions have been swing-friendly exposing the middle-order to the new ball much earlier than needed. This has resulted in batting multiple batting collapses.

“Technically, our batsmen were found wanting. We didn’t play the moving ball well. We can’t depend only on Virat Kohli. Openers like Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul too didn’t get runs. The middle-order was left with too much to do. We should have taken at least a 100-run lead after Cheteshwar Pujara’s hundred [in the fourth Test],” Azhar observed.

With a pace battery that has outshined England so far on the tour, India boast of one of the best bowling attacks and it has time and again delivered. However, the batsmen haven’t been up to the task meaning India missed out on their ‘best chance to win the series’.

“We could have done better. This was our best chance to win the series because we had the best bowling attack and in every game they got those 20 wickets and gave our team a chance to throttle the opposition,” said Azhar who played 99 Tests in his 15-year career.

Dropping Cheteshwar Pujara from the series opener at the Edgbaston, playing an extra spinner in damp and swing-friendly conditions at Lord’s are among the few key decisions that swung the game in favour of England. These have come under severe criticism but Azhar believes that pointing fingers won’t work as it’s a team that wins you matches.

“I can’t say if there was any selection error or not because I wasn’t there to see what prompted the India team management to make those changes. But the entire batting unit didn’t respond well to the challenges. I have to compliment the way Kohli batted throughout the series. But it boils down to one thing. It’s a team game and all the other batsmen need to complement their captain,” he said.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-staff-after-repeated-batting-failures-742171
 
Ravi Shastri, Sanjay Bangar need to be held accountable for results: Sourav Ganguly

Former India captain Sourav Ganguly wants head coach Ravi Shastri and batting coach Sanjay Bangar to find answers to the questions as to why only Virat Kohli has been able to perform in overseas Tests and others are enduring repeated failures.

Ganguly, who led India in 49 Tests, claims it will be impossible for India to win in South Africa, England and Australia unless they find solution to these problems.

“Regarding Ravi Shastri, he has to be held accountable for the results along with Sanjay Bangar regarding why only one batsman is performing whereas others seem to have taken backward steps,” Ganguly was quoted as saying by India TV on Tuesday. “Unless these questions are answered an overseas series win in the three countries looks impossible for India.”

While Virat Kohli has scored 544 runs so far in the ongoing series, the next best for India has come from Cheteshwar Pujara 241 and 132 of them came in one innings. Even Ajinkya Rahane has managed two fifties in eight innings. Ganguly reckons the batsmen look short of confidence.

“This batting lineup hasn’t been making runs for a long time now. If you look at India’s overseas performances from 2011 until now, they have lost every big series. When Virat Kohli is at the crease it seems that he is playing against totally different bowlers as compared to when the other batsmen are batting. I believe that the batting ability of the current players has gone down. There are a lot of reasons for this. Firstly, the players are short of confidence, whether you look at Pujara or Rahane, you’ll find that four years ago, the latter was matching Kohli shot-by-shot in Adelaide which is not the case at the moment. The same goes for Pujara too,” he said.

Kohli’s captaincy has also come under question but Ganguly feels India’s playing XI for the Southampton Test was spot on. “In my opinion, the selection for the fourth Test was alright. The ball was turning from the footmarks outside the right-hander’s off-stump. The ball wasn’t turning at right-angles when Ali was bowling to the left-handed Pant. Jadeja’s record outside India is not great anyway and the pitch wasn’t suited for two spinners,” he observed.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...accountable-for-results-sourav-ganguly-742239
 
When we last failed in England under Fletcher, Shastri was brought in as director. Wonder whether we will see any changes this time, or will he be given free reign till the next world cup.

I hope we lose next test badly and the media furore causes change in the coaching staff. A nation which produced so many ATG batsmen has appointed Bangar as it's batting coach. :facepalm:
 
I'm not a fan of Ravi Shashtri either, I think the time is right for a promotion of Dravid following his U19 WC win.
 
Shastri made India compete in England far better than England did in India.

Still a legendary coach.

Will win in Aus and seal his ATG spot.
 
Shastri will be back, the man hasn't got a negative bone in his body.

India will beat Pakistan at the Asia Cup and hammer the West Indies next month.

The Indian batsmen will plunder some runs on the flat roads of Australia too.
 
Look, Kohli is the captain and the coach of this team. Shastri is there just to make up the numbers and is coach by name only, with Kohli making all of the key tactical decisions and selection decisions.
 
CoA to review India coaching staff's performance after England tour

The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators [CoA] will reportedly review Ravi Shastri-led India coaching staff’s performance after the conclusion of their England tour. India’s tour of England ends after the fifth and final Test which starts from Friday. England have already clinches the five-match series 3-1.

CoA member Diana Edulji said while the committee refrains from being involved in on-field activities, they will ‘definitely review the performance of the coaching staff’.

“We have consciously avoided getting involved in on-field activities and strongly feel that the team management and selectors are there to look into the performance of the players,” Edulji was quoted as saying by the Hindustan Times on Wendesday. “But yes, we will definitely review the performance of the coaching staff when it comes up for a review. As you are aware, they are all on a one-year contract.”

The practice is for the team manager to file report after a tour ends. However, Shastri has the calling shots on whether the current manager Sunil Subramanian will get an extension. Currently, the India support staff barring Shastri has been given a one-year contract.

However, Edulji said she expects Subramanian to file an ‘honest report’ and to be ‘fair in his assessment’. “I do get what you are trying to ask, but then, that is where the manager has to be honest to his role. The manager must file an honest report of whatever happened during the England tour. If you see black and then you decide to call it white, that doesn’t become white. I am sure he will be fair in his assessment,” she said.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-staffs-performance-after-england-tour-742517
 
He wont be stopped!

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https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...lis-has-overseas-in-three-ravi-shastri-742675

In a statement that is bound to polarise opinions, India’s coach Ravi Shastri has lauded the current team under Virat Kohli for being the best travelling unit over the “past 15-20 years”.

Replying to a question during a press conference in London on Wednesday about the familiar batting frailties of the No 1 ranked team in overseas Test matches, Shastri reiterated his stance that this unit was determined to be a good travelling team.

“The endeavour of this team is to travel well and to compete and win,” said Shastri.

He then went on to mention the success that Kohl’s team has in Test matches overseas since 2015.

“If you look at the last three years, we won nine matches overseas and three series,” he said.

Since Kohli was appointed Test captain in the aftermath of MS Dhoni’s retirement in Australia in December 2014, India have travelled to Bangladesh, the West Indies and Sri Lanka twice. In Bangladesh, the one-off Test was drawn. In Sri Lanka in 2015 soon after that trip, India rallied back from defeat in Galle to win the next two Tests in Colombo.

Their next overseas visit was to the West Indies in 2016, where Kohli became the first Indian captain to win two Tests matches in the Caribbean. India won the four-match series 2–0. In 2017, India went back to Sri Lanka and won all three Tests against a side struggling to overcome the gigantic void filled by the retirements of Kumar Sangakkara, Mahela Jayawardene and Tillakaratne Dilshan.

Shastri’s next sentence compared these achievements with those of Indian teams since the late 90s.

“I can’t see any other Indian team in the last 15-20 years who’ve had that kind of run in such a short time,” he said. “And you’ve had some great players in those series.”

For the last time an Indian cricket team won a Test series in any other country other than Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and the West Indies, one has to look at the 2009 tour of New Zealand when Dhoni’s team drew the three-match affair 1-0. That team featured Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Harbhajan Singh and Zaheer Khan.

Since then, India’s Test tours outside of Asia and the West Indies have been to Australia (they lost 0-4 in 2011-12 and 0-2 in 2014-15), England (they lost 0-4 in 2011, 1-3 in 2014 and now trail 1-3), South Africa (they drew 1-1 in 2010-11, lost 0-1 in 2013-14 and 1-2 this year) and New Zealand (they lost 0-1 in 2013-14).

Under Kohli, India rose to No 1 in the ICC Test Championship after wining a string of series at home to go with the aforementioned wins in the West Indies and Sri Lanka. Outside of Asia, however, it has now lost successive Test series in South Africa and England.

While the bowling has improved significantly – in South Africa, they took 20 wickets in each Test and have bowled England out six times in seven innings on this tour, including once in a session – the batting has underwhelmed. Over the last thee years, in Test matches outside of Asia and the Caribbean, Kohli leads the way wth 830 runs at 59.28 and three centuries. Then comes Cheteshwar Pujara (341 at 31, one hundred), Hardik Pandya (283 at 21.76), Ajinkya Rahane (277 at 27.70), R Ashwin (216 at 21.60), Shikhar Dhawan (190 at 23.75), KL Rahul (143 at 11.91) and Murali Vijay (128 at 12.80).

Asked about what frustrated him the most about India’s repeated batting failures overseas, Shastri said: “You’ve got to get tough, mentally. We’ve run teams close overseas, but now its not about competing — its about completing games. The endeavour is to learn, to understand where you made the mistakes, take it head on and try and correct it.

“Its just [about] being tougher mentally. You’ve got to hurt, to lose such matches because that’s when you look within and come out with the right kind of answer. To combat such situations again and get past the finishing line. One day you will, as long as you believe.”

The fifth and final Test against England starts Friday at Kia Oval. India’s next Test series is at home versus West Indies in October, and then a four-Test series in Australia starts December 6.
 
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Can't he be champion at all 3 ?
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I do know what he was like as a player, someone even worse than Mohammad Hafeez. I have always liked him as a commentator. Can't really say how good of a coach he is, the Indian players would be in a better position to comment on that.
 
Hitman said:
I do know what he was like as a player, someone even worse than Mohammad Hafeez. I have always liked him as a commentator. Can't really say how good of a coach he is, the Indian players would be in a better position to comment on that.
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Ok, I'll answer seriously: Shastri was a very useful cricketer who would do the dirty work for a workmanlike team during the 80s. His ability was no more than Paul Collingwood as a batsman and Ashley Giles as a left-arm spinner. But he was a great competitor, as underscored by a double hundred at the SCG.

As a commentator, he wasn't my bag. Empty bluster and bombastic clichés. But there's a market for that in India.

As a coach, to be honest, from afar he is doing as good a job as can be hoped for under the circumstances. He certainly engenders a lot of loyalty from his players which suggests that he is a great man manager and communicator. Unsurprising given his background in the media. Where he falls down is probably tactical flexibility, which is apparent in some baffling selection decisions over the past year. But he is a loyalist and is aware of the political maneouvring that is necessary to succeed in BCCI politics given that he has some powerful detractors like Saurav Ganguly. I just think he gets a lot of unfair criticism because of who he is rather than the actual job he is doing.
 
3 wins in SENA nations this year.

Told ya, he is bloody good.

On track to becoming an ATG coach.

Imagine what he would hav achieved if he had a decent captain at the helm instead of the village idiot.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
3 wins in SENA nations this year.

Told ya, he is bloody good.

On track to becoming an ATG coach.

Imagine what he would hav achieved if he had a decent captain at the helm instead of the village idiot.
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Given he backs most of village idiot's decisions he is as much the problem wouldn't you say.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Ok, I'll answer seriously: Shastri was a very useful cricketer who would do the dirty work for a workmanlike team during the 80s. His ability was no more than Paul Collingwood as a batsman and Ashley Giles as a left-arm spinner. But he was a great competitor, as underscored by a double hundred at the SCG.

As a commentator, he wasn't my bag. Empty bluster and bombastic clichés. But there's a market for that in India.

As a coach, to be honest, from afar he is doing as good a job as can be hoped for under the circumstances. He certainly engenders a lot of loyalty from his players which suggests that he is a great man manager and communicator. Unsurprising given his background in the media. Where he falls down is probably tactical flexibility, which is apparent in some baffling selection decisions over the past year. But he is a loyalist and is aware of the political maneouvring that is necessary to succeed in BCCI politics given that he has some powerful detractors like Saurav Ganguly. I just think he gets a lot of unfair criticism because of who he is rather than the actual job he is doing.
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What is his actual job? Giving bombastic statements after every humiliation in SENA countries?

If he cannot even select a good team available then what is he there for?
 
Reyansh2017 said:
What is his actual job? Giving bombastic statements after every humiliation in SENA countries?

If he cannot even select a good team available then what is he there for?
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This is a signal misunderstanding of the role of a modern coach. The role of a coach has evolved significantly over the past decade or so, from a pure technical and tactical role to someone akin to a motivational guru. Blame John Buchanan for this revolution. Yes, there are still important tactical considerations to be overseen, and I think it's evident that Shastri and Kohli have a similar philosophy on how the game should be played. A player like Kohli is too authoratative to be overruled by a coach, if you try and reign him in you will lose everything that makes him brilliant. In a clash of wills against team management, the captain usually wins.

Man-management and communication is almost equally important to having a good knowledge of tactics and technique. The modern player needs to be pampered and made to feel comfortable in the team-setting so that he can perform well. It's why regimental old school coaches like Andy Flower don't know how to deal with people like Kevin Pietersen. It's just a changing of the guard, you see it in almost all other sports as well. Bad man-managers and communicators will always fail, whereas bad tacticians (like Shastri) can survive if their team has enough talent to just outgun the opposition.

In terms of results, India has certainly not been humiliated abroad. If you look at results during the last overseas cycles in 2014 or 2011, then it's a significant improvement. I think India has had bad luck as well with tosses away from home and results could have been different if they had batted first in a couple of test matches, for which you can blame Kohli, I suppose.
 
Last Monetarist said:
This is a signal misunderstanding of the role of a modern coach. The role of a coach has evolved significantly over the past decade or so, from a pure technical and tactical role to someone akin to a motivational guru. Blame John Buchanan for this revolution. Yes, there are still important tactical considerations to be overseen, and I think it's evident that Shastri and Kohli have a similar philosophy on how the game should be played. A player like Kohli is too authoratative to be overruled by a coach, if you try and reign him in you will lose everything that makes him brilliant. In a clash of wills against team management, the captain usually wins.

Man-management and communication is almost equally important to having a good knowledge of tactics and technique. The modern player needs to be pampered and made to feel comfortable in the team-setting so that he can perform well. It's why regimental old school coaches like Andy Flower don't know how to deal with people like Kevin Pietersen. It's just a changing of the guard, you see it in almost all other sports as well. Bad man-managers and communicators will always fail, whereas bad tacticians (like Shastri) can survive if their team has enough talent to just outgun the opposition.

In terms of results, India has certainly not been humiliated abroad. If you look at results during the last overseas cycles in 2014 or 2011, then it's a significant improvement. I think India has had bad luck as well with tosses away from home and results could have been different if they had batted first in a couple of test matches, for which you can blame Kohli, I suppose.
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*Kohli is too authoritative
 
Will go down as one of the best coaches in Indian cricket history ! True heroes are by their nature: unsung.

In all seriousness, his performance will never be recognized because most people made up their minds about him when Kumble was sacked for his man-management skills.

Also think the decision to make Dravid u-19 and A-team coach was one of the most inspired decisions ever taken by the BCCI. All these young batsmen coming through the ranks will have learned a lot from him and India will stand to benefit for the next decade. It underscores how important grassroots coaching is in developing classy test cricketers.
 
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Will go down as one of the best coaches in Indian cricket history ! True heroes are by their nature: unsung.

In all seriousness, his performance will never be recognized because most people made up their minds about him when Kumble was sacked for his man-management skills.

Also think the decision to make Dravid u-19 and A-team coach was one of the most inspired decisions ever taken by the BCCI. All these young batsmen coming through the ranks will have learned a lot from him and India will stand to benefit for the next decade. It underscores how important grassroots coaching is in developing classy test cricketers.
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It really wasn't an inspired decision as much as the next best thing, BCCI and the CAC wanted dravid to be the National Team coach, dravid did not want that hectic schedule so they basically convinced him to atleast take the A and U19 job.
 
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It really wasn't an inspired decision as much as the next best thing, BCCI and the CAC wanted dravid to be the National Team coach, dravid did not want that hectic schedule so they basically convinced him to atleast take the A and U19 job.
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This kinda belies my point, pure technical coaching is needed at a rung below international cricket.

This was what made the great Australian team of the nineties and early noughties. Ponting was going on about the other day on how he received the best possible coaching while he was at the Cricket Academy from renowned players who could spot flaws and iron them out. Think of the role Terry Jenner played in Shane Warne's career. Warne always mocks the idea that a coach can make a significant difference at international level, while at the same team acknowledging that without Jenner's influence he won't have been half the bowler he was.

India is benefiting now because coaching at the grassroots level is significantly stronger than it is in other countries, including England and South Africa. This fallacy that you need a great technical coach at the international level is why Pakistan repeatedly keep getting humiliated due to shoddy batting. There is no acknowledgement that cricketers hone their talent and technique at first-class cricket, you are not supposed to learn on the job.

Dravid won't have had a fifth of the influence on Indian batsmen like Shaw, Agarwal, Vihari, Gill et al. if he was being tasked to oversee Kohli or Pujara batting in a test match. The marginal gains would have been pretty small if not completely insignificant.

At risk of being highly conceited, on a personal level, I know the value a good manager brings to the quality of work and morale amongst the work force. If my manager/supervisor kept telling me how to do my work I'd resign. Whereas that was not the case when I started out working a decade ago. It's a tenuous link, but I think it applies in professional sport as well. The immense confidence that Shastri's bombastic pronouncements gives to the team is being undervalued. The players just know that the coach will never throw them under the bus for poor performance. That trust can only be good for team spirit and eventually translates into on-field performance. Shastri is much more clever than we all give him credit for.
 
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This kinda belies my point, pure technical coaching is needed at a rung below international cricket.

This was what made the great Australian team of the nineties and early noughties. Ponting was going on about the other day on how he received the best possible coaching while he was at the Cricket Academy from renowned players who could spot flaws and iron them out. Think of the role Terry Jenner played in Shane Warne's career. Warne always mocks the idea that a coach can make a significant difference at international level, while at the same team acknowledging that without Jenner's influence he won't have been half the bowler he was.

India is benefiting now because coaching at the grassroots level is significantly stronger than it is in other countries, including England and South Africa. This fallacy that you need a great technical coach at the international level is why Pakistan repeatedly keep getting humiliated due to shoddy batting. There is no acknowledgement that cricketers hone their talent and technique at first-class cricket, you are not supposed to learn on the job.

Dravid won't have had a fifth of the influence on Indian batsmen like Shaw, Agarwal, Vihari, Gill et al. if he was being tasked to oversee Kohli or Pujara batting in a test match. The marginal gains would have been pretty small if not completely insignificant.

At risk of being highly conceited, on a personal level, I know the value a good manager brings to the quality of work and morale amongst the work force. If my manager/supervisor kept telling me how to do my work I'd resign. Whereas that was not the case when I started out working a decade ago. It's a tenuous link, but I think it applies in professional sport as well. The immense confidence that Shastri's bombastic pronouncements gives to the team is being undervalued. The players just know that the coach will never throw them under the bus for poor performance. That trust can only be good for team spirit and eventually translates into on-field performance. Shastri is much more clever than we all give him credit for.
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I agree with you on dravid but not on shastri, he is a yes man rather than a great man manager, right now Indian team has a clear leadership vacuum for me. Its all kohli no balancing, there is no one bigger than him and he brooks no dissent as kumble found out.

Its will go great guns for a while as he just achieved what no one has but the moment it fails there will be brickbats coming, dhoni ran away mid tour because he knew what was coming with Srini gone, kohli will get a similar jolt.

On topic of man managers though i would say john wright was a great coach, Kirsten for me was one of the best man managers in cricket, that indian team he had was chock full of stars and superstars getting them to perform while taking care of everybody's ego and he did a splendid job of it.
 
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I agree with you on dravid but not on shastri, he is a yes man rather than a great man manager, right now Indian team has a clear leadership vacuum for me. Its all kohli no balancing, there is no one bigger than him and he brooks no dissent as kumble found out.

Its will go great guns for a while as he just achieved what no one has but the moment it fails there will be brickbats coming, dhoni ran away mid tour because he knew what was coming with Srini gone, kohli will get a similar jolt.

On topic of man managers though i would say john wright was a great coach, Kirsten for me was one of the best man managers in cricket, that indian team he had was chock full of stars and superstars getting them to perform while taking care of everybody's ego and he did a splendid job of it.
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I think that will have more to do with Shastri's personality than anything the team does. That's my initial point, he won't get the credit he deserves because of who he is and how he carries himself in public. He behaves abominably and generally lacks class, so people will understandably be loth to acknowledge his good points. Given that he's politically savvy, I do think he'll anticipate those brickbats and leave before it gets to that stage.

I agree on both Wright and Kirsten by the way.
 
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I think that will have more to do with Shastri's personality than anything the team does. That's my initial point, he won't get the credit he deserves because of who he is and how he carries himself in public. He behaves abominably and generally lacks class, so people will understandably be loth to acknowledge his good points. Given that he's politically savvy, I do think he'll anticipate those brickbats and leave before it gets to that stage.

I agree on both Wright and Kirsten by the way.
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My point was about Kohli, Shastri is never going to appreciated win or lose, he has actually done a smart thing in that sense, we lose or we win it is kohli's victory or defeat, shastri is just the bystander.
 
jagatk said:
My point was about Kohli, Shastri is never going to appreciated win or lose, he has actually done a smart thing in that sense, we lose or we win it is kohli's victory or defeat, shastri is just the bystander.
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I disagree, there was a lot of vitriol directed at the coaching team each time India lost a test last year. There's also shameless hankering for the fantasy in which Anil Kumble is still coach and able to show Kohli his rightful place. No, I think Shastri gets pelters when India lose but none of the praise when they do well.
 
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Have said it earlier, Kumble was not fit to be an international coach and Shastri is better than him. But does Shastri deserve to be the coach of Indian team, hell no! Shastri does one thing very well which is that he sucks up to the right people at the right time. While Dhoni was captain, he sucked up to N Srinivasan big time and became paid indian team commentator. Then he realised Kohli is the next big thing so became chums with him. His strength is he says things to such people that they want to hear, which is basically " you can do no wrong".
 
Last Monetarist said:
I disagree, there was a lot of vitriol directed at the coaching team each time India lost a test last year. There's also shameless hankering for the fantasy in which Anil Kumble is still coach and able to show Kohli his rightful place. No, I think Shastri gets pelters when India lose but none of the praise when they do well.
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Ofcourse he gets pelters but its very little in comparison to ones kohli gets, most decisions are considered kohli's decisions not coach's, umesh getting picked its kohli's fault, pujara or bhuvi dropped stupid kohli, we win its captain kohli winning, shastri as i said is the bystander, when kohli fails he will be the first one to get the kick and right now he is the highest paid coach in cricket his qualification for the job the captain likes him.
 
Taking pot shots at Gavaskar in his press conference today, sorely lacking in class again as this is not the time or place:

"I said in Melbourne - I think I mentioned people taking pot shots and firing blanks. I wasn't joking there, because I knew how hard this team had worked. When you fire from there, by the time it crosses the southern hemisphere, it's blown away by the wind like a tracer bullet. But lead with something in it can be pretty serious. And that's what we have fired right through the series against Australia. We were committed, and it jolly well made a bloody difference at the end of it all.

This is not a team of gods or demigods, seniors or juniors. This is an Indian cricket team that will jump over a cliff to win a match for the country. And that's the determination, that's the ruthlessness, that's the mindset with which this team went to play in this series. And hats off to them to show that courage. Today I can say I am proud of my boys and I can also tell them one thing which Virat touched in the presentation - that this team now has an identity to look at any other Indian team from the past in the eye and say, 'We play proper Test match cricket. You did, we did too,' without being intimidated."
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Last Monetarist said:
Taking pot shots at Gavaskar in his press conference today, sorely lacking in class again as this is not the time or place:
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What on earth is he on about.... :ravi
 
Abdullah719 said:
<div style="width: 100%; height: 0px; position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.250%;"><iframe src="https://streamable.com/s/erqo2/vmrtby" frameborder="0" width="100%" height="100%" allowfullscreen style="width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute;"></iframe></div>

What on earth is he on about.... :ravi
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He should have stopped after the first glass is the only lesson one can take from this.
 
Lion hearted Ravi Shastry has converted a team of sheeps into a team of Ligers!

That's the spirit that was needed.
 
Abdullah719 said:
<div style="width: 100%; height: 0px; position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.250%;"><iframe src="https://streamable.com/s/erqo2/vmrtby" frameborder="0" width="100%" height="100%" allowfullscreen style="width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute;"></iframe></div>

What on earth is he on about.... :ravi
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This is called PAWNING haters.

Woohoo.

"When you fire from there, by the time the blank crosses the southern hemisphere, it's blown away like a tracer bullet."

Ravi Shastri is like Nithyananda but the difference is that he walks the talk and produces results.

It takes immense confidence and self belief to do what he does and that is the trait he has instilled in the team.

This is the reason why we were able to POUND THE AUSSIES INTO SUBMISSION AND OBLITERATE THEM FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Aus series win will be Shastri's gift to Indians.

What a gift to Indians by a gift to mankind!

:bow:
 
To all his haters and the Kumble loyalists say something nah.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
This is called PAWNING haters.

Woohoo.

"When you fire from there, by the time the blank crosses the southern hemisphere, it's blown away like a tracer bullet."

Ravi Shastri is like Nithyananda but the difference is that he walks the talk and produces results.

It takes immense confidence and self belief to do what he does and that is the trait he has instilled in the team.

This is the reason why we were able to POUND THE AUSSIES INTO SUBMISSION AND OBLITERATE THEM FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Aus series win will be Shastri's gift to Indians.

What a gift to Indians by a gift to mankind!

:bow:
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Dont think tracer bullet thing is a good example but I think we get the point.
 
The only good thing that will come out of our 19wc defeat will be the sacking of this bewda.:acp
 
Shastri is Kohli's PS & i have no issues with that . His being a coach is what is not acceptable .
 
Abdullah719 said:
<div style="width: 100%; height: 0px; position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.250%;"><iframe src="https://streamable.com/s/erqo2/vmrtby" frameborder="0" width="100%" height="100%" allowfullscreen style="width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute;"></iframe></div>

What on earth is he on about.... :ravi
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Oof, Ravi gave them some serious hokey pokey. :ravi
 
Naw he has still underperformed ,players that he didn't really back Pujara (didn't even clap for guy after he got out at SCG)have shown their class and Rahul who got so much backiing have been meh.
 
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Look at Kohli :))) :))) :)))
 
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