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Indian Coach Ravi "The Cheerleader" Shastri Performance Watch

Savak said:
Ravi Shastri is proof that maybe a side needs a powerful motivator who strikes that perfect balance between letting the team freely express themselves and be a father figure. Anil Kumble behaved very professionally in the coaching interview process and was a hard task master but the team just did not respond to him in the same way resulting in a rift but when Shastri took over the coaching role on Kohli's insistence, India's performances have been in front of us.

Shastri is also not as tactically dumb as people think he is, Bharat Arun himself acknowledged that the brain child between India's middle, off to middle stump line, fielders on the leg side ploy in Australia which totally squeezed Australia's scoring run rate was Ravi Shastri and he told Bharat Arun to work judiciously with the bowlers for months on how they will execute it. No side had ever worked out how to torture the Australian batsmen especially Steve Smith in Australia like this before and i can guarantee you that future teams touring Australia will take a leaf out of these tactics and apply it.
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POTW, Most sensible post on this thread.
 
Ravi Shastri's guidance helped Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma sort out their differences

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/england-in-india/quarantine-isolation-and-ravi-shastris-guidance-helped-virat-kohli-and-rohit-sharma-renew-friendship/articleshow/81752004.cms

Weeks of staying put inside a bio bubble during the pandemic hasn't been easy for the Indian cricket team. However, if there is anything positive to emerge from such strict quarantine rules then it is the forging of a 'renewed friendship' between two proverbial alphamales in the Team India dressing room - Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.

TOI understands that Kohli and Sharma, two of Team India's senior-most members - aided by the team management and coach Ravi Shastri - found the time and space needed to sit across the table and "talk it out" during the series against England.

The two batsmen, who over the last couple of years, were reportedly not getting along, decided to begin on a fresher note.

"Apart from winning two big series, that's been the biggest gain inside the Team India dressing room. A great deal of personal bonding has happened in recent weeks and they're more in sync now than ever with regards to their cricket, the team, their responsibilities and the upcoming challenges. They understand now, more than ever, that the team will only benefit if they find themselves on the same page. This has been the biggest takeaway in the last four months," top sources said.

From opening the batting to relying on each other on the field to bonding off it, Kohli and Sharma have ticked all the right boxes to understand each other's perspective better. Staying inside the bio-bubble for weeks meant a lot of extra time on hand and that helped.

"All the chatter from the outside was causing too much bitterness and all the hearsay was making things worse. It's been the story of Indian cricket for far too long - of vested interests time and again taking advantage of rivalries between players. Like all professionals, Virat and Rohit too would have their disagreements from time to time. But until recently, they never thought of sitting down and talking it out with the kind of clarity that is now visible," sources add.

Those tracking developments point out how the two leading cricketers have also made it a point to subtly let those outside of the Team India camp know that "gossip theories need to end".

"They've spent a lot of time talking to each other in public, like during the post-match presentation at the end of the T20 series. They've been appearing in photographs together a lot more than in the past.

During the One-day series, Virat made it a point to keep his discussions on with Rohit constantly during the game. These things would happen earlier too, but this one time they've decided to make it more visible for outsiders to know that all this chatter now needs to stop," sources add.

Those who have the cricketers' ear insist this is not some public-relations exercise they are indulging in to show everyone that things are fine even if they're not.

"Neither of them has the patience for such exercises. Both understand that neither of the two is any less important in the team and if disagreements have to crop-up, then it's best they resolve it between them than letting outsiders speak for them. It's the healthiest thing that could've happened to the team while staying in the bio-bubble," say those in the know.
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brilliant from these 2 prolific cricketer never easy to get along when both are outstanding cricketer .i wish some of our cricketers learn from these 2 about prioritizing country instead of personal egos
 
saeed5646 said:
brilliant from these 2 prolific cricketer never easy to get along when both are outstanding cricketer .i wish some of our cricketers learn from these 2 about prioritizing country instead of personal egos
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We really don't know if they made up or not. Like we knew very little of the problems they have had with each other. This news report reads more like fanfiction.
 
Indian cricket always had these personality differences in every era -

Gavaskar vs Kapil
Sachin vs Azhar
Ganguly vs Dravid
Dhoni vs Sehwag
Kohli vs Rohit

The reason this issue got sorted so smoothly is because Rohit Sharma is a very humble man and someone without any ego. Every young player in the team finds him more friendly and approachable than Kohli.
 
Rajdeep said:
Indian cricket always had these personality differences in every era -

Gavaskar vs Kapil
Sachin vs Azhar
Ganguly vs Dravid
Dhoni vs Sehwag
Kohli vs Rohit

The reason this issue got sorted so smoothly is because Rohit Sharma is a very humble man and someone without any ego. Every young player in the team finds him more friendly and approachable than Kohli.
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Rohit is more easygoing than humble IMO. He just doesn't care about most things.
 
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OMB said:
Not clear what exactly did Shastri do but glad that it has been sorted out. Media will be the sore loser as this robs them of some news.
Sensible of Rohit and Kohli. Even when they were not on talking terms, it didn't show in their game.
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It's apparent that Shastri has a good relationship with both Kohli and Sharma and knows how to get them both onside.

I was a bit surprised to see how readily Kohli deferred to Sharma in the recent white ball series when the pressure was on, a bit as he used to with Dhoni in the past. Seemed to me that he is willing to acknowledge that a calm head is needed when the team is under the cosh.
 
Rajdeep said:
Indian cricket always had these personality differences in every era -

Gavaskar vs Kapil
Sachin vs Azhar
Ganguly vs Dravid
Dhoni vs Sehwag
Kohli vs Rohit

The reason this issue got sorted so smoothly is because Rohit Sharma is a very humble man and someone without any ego. Every young player in the team finds him more friendly and approachable than Kohli.
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On what basis do you say this? were you part of the dressing room or their lives? Don't say that you are basing this watching them on TV. When Kohli can be friendly with Mohammad Amir with whom he only played against and not with, why can't he be approachable or friendly with young players in his own team? Just because Kohli is aggressive and hyperactive on the field while Rohit is calam doesn't mean the latter is more friendly or like JattMaula says has no ego.

With the exit of Dhoni the dressing room has only 2 major superstars. Its evident that they would have difference of opinion. No one is privy to what caused them or who is to blame. Instead of speculating and blindly supporting one over the other its time to commend both of them to bury the hatchet if this news item is indeed true.
 
Once it can be mistake but doing it again and again proves how insecure he is.
First trolled his co-players wife and then trolled KL.

This is unprofessional no doubt from Rohit’s side.
 
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It was expected to happen. Kohli never won an IPL final and Rohit won the most. The Mumbai cheerleaders like Gavaskar, Manjerekar started hyping Rohit's captaincy. Good thing is the rivalry never impacted their batting performances.
 
rhony said:
It was expected to happen. Kohli never won an IPL final and Rohit won the most. The Mumbai cheerleaders like Gavaskar, Manjerekar started hyping Rohit's captaincy. Good thing is the rivalry never impacted their batting performances.
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Has Kohli won any tournament for that matter?
 
Am gobsmacked at the general negativity surrounding Ravi Shastri as a coach.
A lot of this is disrespect at someone who's played the game at the highest levels, commentated on it, stood up for a lot of issues, and is now our national coach.
He is coaching in the same style that he played, ie made the most of his limited talents and maximized it...the sum of parts being greater than the individual.
A coach at that level wont tell u how to bowl a googlee or how to play the hook shot or how to slide stop whilst fielding etc ...but improve on your skills sets with different drills or sessions and keep the players honest and fresh.
As well as come up with strategies/tactics - eg the whole legside thing against SS on the aus tour.
Well-I have the advantage of knowing tamil and in Ashwin's you tube sessions with bharat arun , or Sridhar, his contribution/knowledge of the game/the depth of his situational understanding comes out and off course the subtitles donot do justice to the nuances ( or even the humour in the discussions : ) which by the way is fantastic in itself:) ), but what comes out is a shrewd thinker who got his coaching staff and the boys to pull together in the common direction and cause.
Not an easy task considering the bio-bubble etc.
I guess there are other factors, but I feel he is chiefly responsible for motivating Rishabh to loose weight& focus more on the game, For Shardul to perform at a higher level than he possibly thought possible, for Washi to excel as a batsman, for Gill to flower and play his way. Just a few examples.
One of the most under rated decision of Ravi Shastri is the selection of Bharat Arum and Ashwin himself credited Bharat Arun for his own personal turnaround-the way they bonded and brought out the best in him. Look at the way Ashwin is bowling nowadays, and his intensity.
Yes, an ICC trophy would be good and is long due. Hopefully, its very soon.
Cheers Ravi - and thanks :ds
 
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CrIc_Mystique said:
Am gobsmacked at the general negativity surrounding Ravi Shastri as a coach.
A lot of this is disrespect at someone who's played the game at the highest levels, commentated on it, stood up for a lot of issues, and is now our national coach.
He is coaching in the same style that he played, ie made the most of his limited talents and maximized it...the sum of parts being greater than the individual.
A coach at that level wont tell u how to bowl a googlee or how to play the hook shot or how to slide stop whilst fielding etc ...but improve on your skills sets with different drills or sessions and keep the players honest and fresh.
As well as come up with strategies/tactics - eg the whole legside thing against SS on the aus tour.
Well-I have the advantage of knowing tamil and in Ashwin's you tube sessions with bharat arun , or Sridhar, his contribution/knowledge of the game/the depth of his situational understanding comes out and off course the subtitles donot do justice to the nuances ( or even the humour in the discussions : ) which by the way is fantastic in itself:) ), but what comes out is a shrewd thinker who got his coaching staff and the boys to pull together in the common direction and cause.
Not an easy task considering the bio-bubble etc.
I guess there are other factors, but I feel he is chiefly responsible for motivating Rishabh to loose weight& focus more on the game, For Shardul to perform at a higher level than he possibly thought possible, for Washi to excel as a batsman, for Gill to flower and play his way. Just a few examples.
One of the most under rated decision of Ravi Shastri is the selection of Bharat Arum and Ashwin himself credited Bharat Arun for his own personal turnaround-the way they bonded and brought out the best in him. Look at the way Ashwin is bowling nowadays, and his intensity.
Yes, an ICC trophy would be good and is long due. Hopefully, its very soon.
Cheers Ravi - and thanks :ds
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Awesome post dude. Agree with every word you mentioned. The criticism that he gets even when he delivers success after success is unbelievable. All his success will be attributed to somebody like Dravid who has a very negligible role in that success if at all. And if and when failure comes it is all due to Shastri and his drinking and no blame goes to anybody else.

The lengths people goto to find ways to give credit to Dravid and takeaway credit from Shastri is to be seen to be believed.
 
WengerOut said:
Lets get serious here
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If ICC was serious it wouldn't be running this tournament for years. Don't shift the goalpost. You mentioned 'any' in your post. Now you dismiss the ICC u19 trophy.
 
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Trust Shastri to hype up an occasion:

'I call this the Big Daddy of World Cups, I have been part of a World Cup winning side in '83, I've commentated on several World Cups, but this is the big one, the Big Daddy. This will be the crowning glory of my coaching career.'
 
Last Monetarist said:
Trust Shastri to hype up an occasion:

'I call this the Big Daddy of World Cups, I have been part of a World Cup winning side in '83, I've commentated on several World Cups, but this is the big one, the Big Daddy. This will be the crowning glory of my coaching career.'
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Shastri is an absolute champion of a coach!
 
Last Monetarist said:
Trust Shastri to hype up an occasion:

'I call this the Big Daddy of World Cups, I have been part of a World Cup winning side in '83, I've commentated on several World Cups, but this is the big one, the Big Daddy. This will be the crowning glory of my coaching career.'
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And Kohli says he doesn't put too much importance into an one off match. Talk about synchrony.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Trust Shastri to hype up an occasion:

'I call this the Big Daddy of World Cups, I have been part of a World Cup winning side in '83, I've commentated on several World Cups, but this is the big one, the Big Daddy. This will be the crowning glory of my coaching career.'
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Master of hyperboles!
 
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/world-test-championship-big-daddy-of-all-world-cups-says-ravi-shastri-as-india-play-new-zealand-in-final-1816954-2021-06-19

India head coach Ravi Shastri on Saturday said that he played the 1983 World Cup and commentated in a few multiple marquee tournaments but he rates World Test Championship (WTC) notches above anything else. Shastri pointed out the importance of Test cricket, calling it the toughest format and saying that the World Test Championship (WTC) is the "big daddy of all World Cups"

"For me, this is another Test match that has to be played. These things are very exciting from the outside where there is so much importance and so much other extra stuff that's attached to one game and it sort of becomes do-and-die," Ravi Shastri said.

"It's the 'big daddy of all World Cups'. I've played the 1983 World Cup, commentated on a few of them but this one is the biggest of them all. It's the toughest format, the biggest format, and the job satisfaction is maximum," Shastri added.

Shastri revealed that the Indian team was never interested in changing their playing XI after rain played spoilsport on an opening day. India named their playing XI on Thursday and despite the change in conditions over the last 2 days, Shastri and management did not opt for any change.

"Unless you would have had another washout today and the game had been reduced to a 2-3 day game, but otherwise with the kind of attack we have, we take the pitch out of the equation. On a day like this, it helps the fast bowlers get help, but when the sun comes out the spinners would come into play," said Shastri.

"Jadeja and Ashwin add that variety and they bowl well in tandem. They have close to 600-700 wickets and complement each other really well. Both teams will feel that way."

India didn't change their playing XI announced two days back with both specialist spin-bowling all-rounders Ravindra Jadeja and Ravichandran Ashwin adding to their batting depth. New Zealand are going with an all seam attack with medium-pacer Colin de Grandhomme, Trent Boult, Tim Southee, Neil Wagner and Kyle Jamieson.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Better team won in the conditions. Deserved winners after the longest wait for a World Title. Classic example of Big things don't come easy. Well played, New Zealand. Respect.</p>— Ravi Shastri (@RaviShastriOfc) <a href="https://twitter.com/RaviShastriOfc/status/1408011558995718148?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
If Ind had no coach would the results be any different. The 2 most important people are the chief selector and the Captain.
 
Could have gone in with Vihari ahead of Jadeja. But that's just hindsight.
Indian batting looked quite rusty. Two warm up games could have put them in good stead.
Funny how Virat has gone from "Intense training sessions are better than warm up games against mediocre teams" to "we were short on game time"
 
OMB said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Better team won in the conditions. Deserved winners after the longest wait for a World Title. Classic example of Big things don't come easy. Well played, New Zealand. Respect.</p>— Ravi Shastri (@RaviShastriOfc) <a href="https://twitter.com/RaviShastriOfc/status/1408011558995718148?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Strange how he mentioned 'in the conditions.' I thought they don't usually complain about that?
 
subshakerz said:
Strange how he mentioned 'in the conditions.' I thought they don't usually complain about that?
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It was a fair tweet i felt.

Praised the team without being snarky.

NZ were the better team in these conditions.

Had the conditions been different, Indian team would be better team.

But in a way, super glad we played in England and lost.

Too many issues were being brushed under the rug and its all wide open now.
 
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It's the old rope-a-dope, just that the real opponent is England. He's always been a slow starter.
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Kohli or Shastri?

I dont see Indian team doing well in England unless we make wholesale changes.

Its been the same story since 2011 and now our middle order averages 30 in recent times.

Total jobbers.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kohli or Shastri?

I dont see Indian team doing well in England unless we make wholesale changes.

Its been the same story since 2011 and now our middle order averages 30 in recent times.

Total jobbers.
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Shastri, of course. The beast should wake soon enough.

Incidentally, the present England team isn't as strong as the ones that faced India in 2011, 2014, or 2018. If Anderson doesn't bowl well, I expect them to lose.
 
India has been elite in tests/ODIs for years with this captain/manager combination - and have made more finals and semi finals than any other team.

It is hard to argue with success.

The only thing I can say, very controversial, is that Kohli/Shastri inherited a finished article much like Modi - and have enjoyed the momentum. Particularly in a poor poor international circuit where all teams have real paucity of good competitive talent.

But that is not their fault. They have done their job.
 
Ravi Shastri's Commentary Stints Made Him Contender for India Coaching Role: CAC Member

India head coach Ravi Shastri was an immensely popular tv commentator.India head coach Ravi Shastri was an immensely popular tv commentator.
Ravi Shastri, who hit sixes in an over long before Yuvraj Singh, had a claim to fame in TV commentary as well. His cliched terms are fondly remembered by cricket fans.

Former Cricket Advisory Committee(CAC) member Anshuman Gaekwad has revealed the reason Ravi Shastri was re-appointed for the all important position of Team India head coach: he was a commentator.

“See, Ravi had an advantage among the others who were in fray for the coaching job. Myself, Kapil Dev and Shantha… we did the selection. He was in touch with cricket by virtue of being a commentator. He had seen cricket and not only of one country but world cricket from a very close quarter. He knew exactly how things go about – winning or losing. He knew how matches and situations turn around. What one does to do it? He was in touch and knew the Indian players well and players knew him well. What else do you want?" Gaikwad told Hindustan Times.

Shastri was named team india’s ‘Director of Cricket’ back in 2014. He played a key role in India doing well in the limited overs series in England that very same year. The team also drew with Australia in their own backyard. The 59-year-old left the side after 2016 T20 World Cup where India lost the semi-final to West Indies. He returned after 2017 Champions Trophy fiasco-where India lost to Pakistan in the final amid the reports of a tussle between captain Virat Kohli and coach Anil Kumble. It was here that CAC reappointed him.

Shastri, who hit sixes in an over long before Yuvraj Singh, had a claim to fame in TV commentary as well. His cliched terms are fondly remembered by cricket fans to this day. He went onto commentate in almost every other India match and was very well-versed with the players. Gaekwad added that this was an added advantage which went in his favour.

Meanwhile Gaekwad also said people blame coach and captain for team’s failures. Instead, they should have a close look at the coach and the set of players available in the team.

“It’s not only coach and captain. That’s a wrong concept people have. It’s the coach and the team. A captain alone can’t do anything. He needs another 10 to do it. Similarly, coach and captain can’t do everything. That has been my experience. I had the best of the guys - Tendulkar, Azharuddin, Laxman, Sourav, Rahul. What else do you want? And in the bowling, Anil, Srinath, Venkatesh Prasad, and it worked."

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/ravi-shastris-commentary-stints-made-him-contender-for-india-coaching-role-cac-member-4015661.html
 
When India wins:

Every dude and his dog comes out praising Shastri, saying how he devised XYZ strategy, how he motivated them, etc, etc.

When India loses:

Radio silence.

Understandably so.

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Even if Shastri took idiotic decisions, not like anyone can come and reveal it to the outside world.

But there will be gazzilion articles posted about him when we do well......and posters will quote that left and right and say "see.......this is why Shastri is the right person".

This is the same guy who DROPPED Rahul for Dhawan in 2017 cos the latter was scoring centuries in Lanka while Rahul was only scoring 50s in the incredible test series against Aus.

lol.

Not that I think Shastri is good or bad (honestly I don't know)....just pointing out the flawed way of thinking.
 
Lost T20 series to Lanka.

If it happened under Ravi Shastri, people would have jumped to eat him alive by now. :))
 
King_Kohli said:
Lost T20 series to Lanka.

If it happened under Ravi Shastri, people would have jumped to eat him alive by now. :))
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Would make sense to criticise Dravid if he had lost with a full strength team. And by full strength, I mean if he were able to pick all the players selected for this series alone and not forced to play a handicapped team with 6 tailenders due to an unfortunate covid outbreak.
 
1. No body is criticising Shastri for the Indian T20 loss. Not sure if anybody is insuinating that but the post was made BEFORE the 3rd T20.

2. By the way, it was clear from the outset that Dravid would be operating from the inputs of the main team for this series. There were a few news articles.

3. If Dravid doesnt perform well, he will be criticized too. By the way, he has been critized for too many changes as the RR coach or mentor. All valid criticism.

4. Shastri has a long and proud history of overseeing dumb moves. Whether it was him or not is unknown and due to his personality, people assume its him.

5. The fact that Shastri goes hiding when we get owned and then comes out all guns blazing with bombastic statements when we win adds fuel to the fire.

Now where the truth lies...no one really knows.
 
Positive thing about Shastri - He dont treat players like school boys and give them total freedom. It works well with superstar Indian players who can play with free mind. This headmaster approach was the main reason of Kumble - Kohli clash and Shastri did well in managing Indian players.

Negative thing about Shastri - He goes hiding whenever we lose any series and takes no accountability at all. But whenever we win, he comes flying to the press conference and give big statements like 'This Indian team is best Indian team of all time' or 'Even big dada teams couldnt achieve what this team did' :ravi

Reality about Shastri - As per BCCI policy, you need to be below 60 years to become head coach. Shastri will be turning 60 next year and his contract is expiring after the T20 WC. So irrespective of the result in world cup, he wont be Indian coach after November. There is a very high possibility that Dravid will get the full time job.
 
Rajdeep said:
Positive thing about Shastri - He dont treat players like school boys and give them total freedom. It works well with superstar Indian players who can play with free mind. This headmaster approach was the main reason of Kumble - Kohli clash and Shastri did well in managing Indian players.

Negative thing about Shastri - He goes hiding whenever we lose any series and takes no accountability at all. But whenever we win, he comes flying to the press conference and give big statements like 'This Indian team is best Indian team of all time' or 'Even big dada teams couldnt achieve what this team did' :ravi

Reality about Shastri - As per BCCI policy, you need to be below 60 years to become head coach. Shastri will be turning 60 next year and his contract is expiring after the T20 WC. So irrespective of the result in world cup, he wont be Indian coach after November. There is a very high possibility that Dravid will get the full time job.
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For some freak reason in my mind shastri is younger than dravid I thought . :facepalm
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
2. By the way, it was clear from the outset that Dravid would be operating from the inputs of the main team for this series. There were a few news articles.
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You believe these articles very easily when it's convenient. :yk

I don't think there was any politics in selection, the team just faced some very difficult situations. I don't think selecting a different set of players (from those available) or Coach would have helped.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
You believe these articles very easily when it's convenient. :yk

I don't think there was any politics in selection, the team just faced some very difficult situations. I don't think selecting a different set of players (from those available) or Coach would have helped.
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You mistook me bhai.

I didn't say there was any politics.

Heck, Dravid himself made a statement that he is looking to support what the main management wants and will go by their inputs.

Or something of that sort.
 
“I do not get involved in the selection of the team. Arnab, you must remember I get involved in the selection of the XI. So, who picks the 15 players is also accountable. Yes, I am accountable as a selector as being a part of the selection process which picks the XI. The 15 is picked up by the selectors, even the captain doesn’t have a vote,” Shastri said during an interview with well-known TV anchor Arnab Goswami on Republic TV.
 
That clears a lot.
This is what happen when Politicians and businessmen involve too much in sports.

Even I don't like Dhoni's involvement.
 
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