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It is a very sophisticated topic and for those who are aware of fiat money vs Gold standard, it would be of great fun and easier to comprehend.

India have won 2 big ICC events in last 10 overs, and more importantly both of them came in a space of 9 months. The quality of Indian side in T20 is without any doubt commendable but the hype of their success and invincibility in the ODI and Test format needs to be exposed.

For instance, India has failed in each of its last away series in SENA nations and with England Test series on the horizon against a struggling and laughing stock Bazball side, but the outcome seems to be most probably another away series for India where they won't win the series against England let alone fancy a bullying of them like in 2024 in India.

Also in ODIs, India always struggle against quality and A-sides whenever they face them. The very fact that their quite amazing ODI record in last two ODI events is a result of unfair advantage and deliberate venue and pitch manipulation is nothing new. For instance, the choice of flat pitches in Pakistan (where Aaqib ball was favoring the hosts) and choice of rank turners in Dubai with India being the only team to opt for 4 specialist spinner is a clear manifestation of it. But still after all this Indian team gets exposed when a side is half decent or when they are A siders then CWC 2023 final results ensue.
 
If Indian triumphs are at the level of dollar domination.. Ohhh plzzz we are glad.
Nothing lasts forever but if decades of utter sheer domination is in store for us ....
Oh YESSSSSSSSSS!!! :yahoo:yahoo
It is a very sophisticated topic and for those who are aware of fiat money vs Gold standard, it would be of great fun and easier to comprehend.

India have won 2 big ICC events in last 10 overs, and more importantly both of them came in a space of 9 months. The quality of Indian side in T20 is without any doubt commendable but the hype of their success and invincibility in the ODI and Test format needs to be exposed.

For instance, India has failed in each of its last away series in SENA nations and with England Test series on the horizon against a struggling and laughing stock Bazball side, but the outcome seems to be most probably another away series for India where they won't win the series against England let alone fancy a bullying of them like in 2024 in India.

Also in ODIs, India always struggle against quality and A-sides whenever they face them. The very fact that their quite amazing ODI record in last two ODI events is a result of unfair advantage and deliberate venue and pitch manipulation is nothing new. For instance, the choice of flat pitches in Pakistan (where Aaqib ball was favoring the hosts) and choice of rank turners in Dubai with India being the only team to opt for 4 specialist spinner is a clear manifestation of it. But still after all this Indian team gets exposed when a side is half decent or when they are A siders then CWC 2023 final results ensue.
 
We are Only going to be strong in the future. Our talent is unmatched in world cricket.

In next 5-7 years we are going to win atleast 3-4 More ICC trophy .

Look at australia ,they didn't have any bench strength compared to indian cricket team

:kp
 
India being the USA of cricket is not the insult you think it is.

Indian test team has drawn both it's last series in England and SA (where Pak lost and Pak have been getting whitewashed in SA since 2013) so failing in last SENA series is false and is currently in rebuilding process.

T20 team is the best T20 team ever.

ODI team is the best team but not as above it's peers as the T20 team is.

Anyways, Pakistan is the Pakistan of cricket so years of slow decline and sliding into irrelevancy I guess.
 
We are Only going to be strong in the future. Our talent is unmatched in world cricket.

In next 5-7 years we are going to win atleast 3-4 More ICC trophy .

Look at australia ,they didn't have any bench strength compared to indian cricket team

:kp
People fail to realize India's cricket team is linked to it's growing economy.

It's denial of a form cause seeing it would accept that the only feasible future of cricket is India becoming a hegemon - both on and off the field. Tbh it is already happening.

Every Indian generation is better than the previous one and this is going to keep on continuing for the foreseeable future.
 
We are Only going to be strong in the future. Our talent is unmatched in world cricket.

In next 5-7 years we are going to win atleast 3-4 More ICC trophy .

Look at australia ,they didn't have any bench strength compared to indian cricket team

:kp
India will achieve the real success as soon as they get rid of liabilities like RoKo, they have declined to leave gracefully
 
It is a very sophisticated topic and for those who are aware of fiat money vs Gold standard, it would be of great fun and easier to comprehend.

India have won 2 big ICC events in last 10 overs, and more importantly both of them came in a space of 9 months. The quality of Indian side in T20 is without any doubt commendable but the hype of their success and invincibility in the ODI and Test format needs to be exposed.

For instance, India has failed in each of its last away series in SENA nations and with England Test series on the horizon against a struggling and laughing stock Bazball side, but the outcome seems to be most probably another away series for India where they won't win the series against England let alone fancy a bullying of them like in 2024 in India.

Also in ODIs, India always struggle against quality and A-sides whenever they face them. The very fact that their quite amazing ODI record in last two ODI events is a result of unfair advantage and deliberate venue and pitch manipulation is nothing new. For instance, the choice of flat pitches in Pakistan (where Aaqib ball was favoring the hosts) and choice of rank turners in Dubai with India being the only team to opt for 4 specialist spinner is a clear manifestation of it. But still after all this Indian team gets exposed when a side is half decent or when they are A siders then CWC 2023 final results ensue.

So many threads have backfired. Admire the courage to create a new one :inti
 
So many thread ls have backfired. Admire the courage to create a new one :inti
Only time will tell who is right, I am not infallible too. And I repeat India can hardly win a long format tournament unless they don't temper with schedules and cherrypick locations for their knock out games.

WTC cycle schedules and recent ODI events schedule a manifestation of it.
 
To my fellow Indians,
I notice many bait threads like this. Don't waste your time and energy.
Someone sometime back wrote "A lion doesn't care about the opinion of a sheep" in this same forum. Remember that and don't worry about what the India haters think.
 
India destroying 10 teams in a row in 2023 due to "schedule" is the most jealous take one can come up with. India shuttled all over the country and cleaned up team left/right/center regardlesff of batting first , batting second, winning toss, losing toss. Losing due to pressure is one thing. India never lost a match due to lack of skill since 2011 world cup. You need to be bloody good or India chokes on a given day to beat India. India has been dominating for 15 years in ODI Not last 3 ICC cups.
 
About Gold standard: In cricketing term Australia of 2000s and Windies of 1970s , 80s qualify this description....who could beat any team on any pitch and anywhere.

In comparison, Indian team is just a home conditions bully who besides T20 format struggle against A sides away from home.
 
About Gold standard: In cricketing term Australia of 2000s and Windies of 1970s , 80s qualify this description....who could beat any team on any pitch and anywhere.

In comparison, Indian team is just a home conditions bully who besides T20 format struggle against A sides away from home.
Thats why Australia failed to win Ct 2000 in Nairobi, CT 2004 in England, WT20 2007 in SA?
 
Yep because of it they won World Cup 1999 in England, 2003 in SA, 2007 in WI, CT 2009 in SA, CT 2006 in India but but.............

Thats why Australia failed to win Ct 2000 in Nairobi, CT 2004 in England, WT20 2007 in SA?
 
About Gold standard: In cricketing term Australia of 2000s and Windies of 1970s , 80s qualify this description....who could beat any team on any pitch and anywhere.

In comparison, Indian team is just a home conditions bully who besides T20 format struggle against A sides away from home.
Give me a 15 year period of any country that has better W/L ratio than India from 2010-2025 in ICC ODI events

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@The Bald Eagle bro, I like trolling our Indian fans like Devdal and Rajadeep as much as anyone else but here we just look like sore losers. We knew what PCB was getting into with the deal. India definitely had it easier without having to travel but they lost all the tosses which definitely balanced it. NZ were getting almost 2x the amount of spin yesterday as Indian spinners did. The biggest problem is we don't have the team to show up the Indian arrogance at the moment. Our 90s team would have smashed KL Rahul, Pant and tullas like Rohit. The tables will turn again we just need to wait.
 
Lol...why not 10 year old model for Australia of 2000s, certainly I didn't talk about Aus of 1990s.
Because India has done well over a period of 15 years as against 10 year window of Australia. That is longer than Australia's performance. They did well in England, Australia during this period. India is a professional team now. Even with missing players they will put on a great show in an ICC event no matter where you host it. We ar enot like England who sneakily won a 2019 cup and got butchered in 2023. It will only get better.
 
Because India has done well over a period of 15 years as against 10 year window of Australia. That is longer than Australia's performance. They did well in England, Australia during this period. India is a professional team now. Even with missing players they will put on a great show in an ICC event no matter where you host it. We ar enot like England who sneakily won a 2019 cup and got butchered in 2023. It will only get better.
Wish you luck for England Test series atm...would be a simple Test of where your team lies....with Bumrah in team too
 
Wish you luck for England Test series atm...would be a simple Test of where your team lies....with Bumrah in team too
Teams tend to struggle during transition. Ashwin has just retired. Jadeja will soon retire. Rohit sharma is going out. Kohli should have retired 3 years back. But he is hanging on to his spot. Shami looks pretty much done. No way he can survive 5 day test. Essentially we have about 5 or 6 players that need replacement. Then they have to gel. It is a longer process. So i do expect some losses along the way. NZ series was start of it. That is something fans can live with. I don't expect India to win in England. In Australia even with woeful team almost levelled the series. Too bad Pant played a ridiculous shot when match was heading towrds a draw. THen Bumrah broke down in the 5th test. With a bit of luck the whole series would have gone in different direction. Once India has a settled down i expect them to turn things around. Ofcourse it is harder to find test class players as players hone their skills to do well in T20.
 
Teams tend to struggle during transition. Ashwin has just retired. Jadeja will soon retire. Rohit sharma is going out. Kohli should have retired 3 years back. But he is hanging on to his spot. Shami looks pretty much done. No way he can survive 5 day test. Essentially we have about 5 or 6 players that need replacement. Then they have to gel. It is a longer process. So i do expect some losses along the way. NZ series was start of it. That is something fans can live with. I don't expect India to win in England. In Australia even with woeful team almost levelled the series. Too bad Pant played a ridiculous shot when match was heading towrds a draw. THen Bumrah broke down in the 5th test. With a bit of luck the whole series would have gone in different direction. Once India has a settled down i expect them to turn things around. Ofcourse it is harder to find test class players as players hone their skills to do well in T20.
I am amazed, may be I watched the wrong BGT last year 🤣. Poor me
 
We can't criticise India for not winning ICC trophies and then change the goal posts to say oh but ICC trophies don't count something else does.

They are holding two trophies brother. Show a big heart and extend your congratulations rather than focusing on technicalities and ifs and buts.
 
We can't criticise India for not winning ICC trophies and then change the goal posts to say oh but ICC trophies don't count something else does.

They are holding two trophies brother. Show a big heart and extend your congratulations rather than focusing on technicalities and ifs and buts.
Bro I don't know what message my OP conveyed...but I certainly say one thing a tournament win is always big whether by hook or crook.

But made this thread to wake those indians up who started to compare Aussies of 2000s with current lot.
 
Satisfying thread. this tread might not have been remotely possible. Was bored of the usual BCCI is superior, Jai Virat Kohli, Jai Rohit Sharma and somewhat sportive Pakistani fans.

Thanks brother; this helps 👍
 
If we are fiat currency , it's Kuwaiti dinar unlike the Zimbabwe dollar types like PAK and BD .

These coping mechanisms are funny :inti
 
I am amazed, may be I watched the wrong BGT last year 🤣. Poor me
Ya you watched worng BGT for sure. India destroyed them at Perth. THen they tossed the ball to Head when the game was meandering towards a draw. They got lucky there. India threw the draw. Pink ball test overwhelmingly favors home team. Final test at the SCG they offered a green top uncharacteristically. Still India even without Bumrah took the innings lead. Prasidh, tired Siraj, ROoki reddy were the only two seamers India had. They had CUmmins, Hazlewood, Starc. Even with that attack India was in with a chance to draw the series if Bumrah comes back. He never. For what its worth we beat Australia 4 test series in a row. You didn't expect us to beat them 3rd time in a row and you sound like every other team is doing that for fun. First beat them in one series first before talking about 3rd series in a row.
 
Ya you watched worng BGT for sure. India destroyed them at Perth. THen they tossed the ball to Head when the game was meandering towards a draw. They got lucky there. India threw the draw. Pink ball test overwhelmingly favors home team. Final test at the SCG they offered a green top uncharacteristically. Still India even without Bumrah took the innings lead. Prasidh, tired Siraj, ROoki reddy were the only two seamers India had. They had CUmmins, Hazlewood, Starc. Even with that attack India was in with a chance to draw the series if Bumrah comes back. He never. For what its worth we beat Australia 4 test series in a row. You didn't expect us to beat them 3rd time in a row and you sound like every other team is doing that for fun. First beat them in one series first before talking about 3rd series in a row.
Not I but you indian fans bragged that...

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We have record too....do you want me to present names?
That doesn't mean much. Many of us were practical about it. Go through it. Fans bragging abotu their team shouldn't really tell you about the actual quality of the team. If that were to be the case Pakistan would be winning every test/ODI/T20. DOn't go that route.
 
That doesn't mean much. Many of us were practical about it. Go through it. Fans bragging abotu their team shouldn't really tell you about the actual quality of the team. If that were to be the case Pakistan would be winning every test/ODI/T20. DOn't go that route.
I don't say your team is mediocre etc...i say they are great in home conditions, ideal team in T20s but avg against A siders in SENA in longer formats.
 
I don't say your team is mediocre etc...i say they are great in home conditions, ideal team in T20s but avg against A siders in SENA in longer formats.
If India were mediocre overseas in ODI they won't be ranked no.1 17 months in a row just by winning ICC matches at home
 
If India were mediocre overseas in ODI they won't be ranked no.1 17 months in a row just by winning ICC matches at home
My friend, Pakistan was also no 1 at some time before CWC 2023 and Babar has remained no 1 for like 3 years.

How many ODIs have you won and loss in the last 17 months away from home.

Hint: Sri Lanka
 
Ironically some Pakistan fans loathe Misbah and Babar, infact these two individuals under Misbah Pakistan had ICC Test Mace and Babar remained numero uno batsman for some time
 
India reecnt times send completely new team overseas for experience. They rarely send full strength teams. That is why it is harder to beat India in ICC events. That is when you see the full strength side.
 
India reecnt times send completely new team overseas for experience. They rarely send full strength teams. That is why it is harder to beat India in ICC events. That is when you see the full strength side.
What about recent SL tour ?
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India’s dominance being compared to the dollar is a great compliment.

The dollar has been the single most powerful fiat money for over 70 years.

The negative comparison with gold doesn’t matter. Because forget a game, gold is older than Hinduism, Islam, Christianity.

Nothing can compete with the longevity of gold anyway.

Hence if my country’s cricket accomplishments are being compared to the USD, I’ll take it
 
I don't say your team is mediocre etc...i say they are great in home conditions, ideal team in T20s but avg against A siders in SENA in longer formats.
heheheh

more filters.

no more "ICC trophies" in last "10 years" (not 5, not 15, 10 to include ct 17 and exclude ct 13 loool)?

now it's "longer formats" against "A siders" in "SENA"

India have won their last ODI series in SA/Eng and drawn their last test series in SA/Eng.
 
heheheh

more filters.

no more "ICC trophies" in last "10 years" (not 5, not 15, 10 to include ct 17 and exclude ct 13 loool)?

now it's "longer formats" against "A siders" in "SENA"

India have won their last ODI series in SA/Eng and drawn their last test series in SA/Eng.
Ok let's see how they do against pathetic bazballers this summer with Bumrah at their disposal
 
Only time will tell who is right, I am not infallible too. And I repeat India can hardly win a long format tournament unless they don't temper with schedules and cherrypick locations for their knock out games.

WTC cycle schedules and recent ODI events schedule a manifestation of it.

I agree with this assessment.

India gets so many blatant perks. Their CT 2025 win is definitely tainted. I don't know how they can feel happy about that win. :inti
 
You know what the funny thing is.

When India was winning ICC trophies in 2011 and 2013 it was "can't win overseas series in SENA in longer formats"

When India was winning "overseas series in SENA in longer formats" in 2018-2022 it was "no ICC trophies"

Now when India has won ICC trophies again in 2024 and 2025 it's back to "can't win overseas series in SENA in longer formats"

India ODI team is good enough to beat SENA away as shown in last SA/Eng series.

Test it is going under rebuilding like 11-15 era but period of dominance will come. Not whitewash after whitewash in SENA for 20-30 odd years lol.
 
What about recent SL tour ?
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Did Bumrah play? Did Shami play? When did Srilanka become a challengers for India? Condtiions made them look better than they are. They even beat Australia comprehensively by batting first. They got rolled over for 51 in Asia cup final against India. Then 50 all out in world cup. So that is your example of India struggles against overseas teams?
 
Did Bumrah play? Did Shami play? When did Srilanka become a challengers for India? Condtiions made them look better than they are. They even beat Australia comprehensively by batting first. They got rolled over for 51 in Asia cup final against India. Then 50 all out in world cup. So that is your example of India struggles against overseas teams?
Exactly, CONDITIONS made them look deadly....thanks for building the main case 👍
 
Exactly, CONDITIONS made them look deadly....thanks for building the main case 👍
What conditions. India has demolished opposition with seamers in 2023 world cup. No other team could do the same with pace attack. How does condition help only one team? Haris Rauf conceded 500 runs lol
 
I agree with this assessment.

India gets so many blatant perks. Their CT 2025 win is definitely tainted. I don't know how they can feel happy about that win. :inti

This is a rubbish argument. Its one thing to have an advantage but another thing to have the quality to take advantage of the advantage and actually play well. Replace India with Pakistan and they would still have screwed it up.
 
Usa is going to crumble because of their debt one day may be in 10 or 20 years, but just like that we will also crumble some day but only after maybe 10 or 15 years, during this period we will win a lot of trophies, pakistan will be the new zimbabwe of world cricket at that time.
 
Out of the next 9 ICC events, 3 will be in India and 3 remains TBD...and then some Einstein says India's high win percentage is not because of scheduling 🤦‍♂️

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Out of the next 9 ICC events, 3 will be in India and 3 remains TBD...and then some Einstein says India's high win percentage is not because of scheduling 🤦‍♂️

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Champion trophy was hosted by Pakistan yet pakistan knockout from the tournament within four days

Ye excuse dena kab khatam karoge ? Forget about india performance,look at own team because they are brink of minnow status in World cricket

:kp
 
Champion trophy was hosted by Pakistan yet pakistan knockout from the tournament within four days

Ye excuse dena kab khatam karoge ? Forget about india performance,look at own team because they are brink of minnow status in World cricket

:kp
They played just 1 match at home in entire tournament, against NZ who would have wiped the floor with India in Pak...but still agree PCT is on road to an epic downfall and that isn't anything new anymore.

Go win a ICC trophy in Australia, New Zealand or until then don't take offense when someone shows you the mirror
 
They played just 1 match at home in entire tournament, against NZ who would have wiped the floor with India in Pak...but still agree PCT is on road to an epic downfall and that isn't anything new anymore.

Go win a ICC trophy in Australia, New Zealand or until then don't take offense when someone shows you the mirror
India just lost 1 match in the Last 3 ICC tournaments and won 22 out of 23 match.

Toda to dimaag ka use karo. Apna socho apna . USA, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland se harke bathe ho.

India will win next ICC tournaments and you'll again crying about Same things.
 
India just lost 1 match in the Last 3 ICC tournaments and won 22 out of 23 match.

Toda to dimaag ka use karo. Apna socho apna . USA, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland se harke bathe ho.

India will win next ICC tournaments and you'll again crying about Same things.
You guys can never win an ICC LOI tournament without scheduling outside India...and of future trophies yep everyone knows you are talking about solely the events in India.
 
You guys can never win an ICC LOI tournament without scheduling outside India...and of future trophies yep everyone knows you are talking about solely the events in India.
First World cup was win by india in the England but you was not even born so didn't know. Understable

1st world T20 tournament was held in South Africa and India smashed pakistan to win the trophy.

India won 2013 champion trophy in england

India recently won a world T20 in USA and westindies .

What next excuse ? ICC= BCCI 🤣🤣🤣🤣

:shh:kp
 
India had won 7 ICC tournaments and only won a single at home and rest were won outside india.

:kp
 
First World cup was win by india in the England but you was not even born so didn't know. Understable

1st world T20 tournament was held in South Africa and India smashed pakistan to win the trophy.

India won 2013 champion trophy in england

India recently won a world T20 in USA and westindies .

What next excuse ? ICC= BCCI 🤣🤣🤣🤣

:shh:kp
Yes win a single LOI ICC event outside India in next 10 years without your scheduling...will prove all the critics wrong.

And when does T20 became LOI?? Was I talking about current Indian team or Kapil dev era team??
 
Lol...Dubai one was even more India than India.... Guinness record all matches at the same stadium 👏👏
Dubai was pakistan Home ground yet pakistan was humiliated by india .

India will win next ICC tournaments in March 2026 . Rok sako to rok lena . Open challenge

:kp
 
Dubai was pakistan Home ground yet pakistan was humiliated by india .

India will win next ICC tournaments in March 2026 . Rok sako to rok lena . Open challenge

:kp
Out of all the players Babar has played the most in Dubai. A familar ground for him.
 
Lol...then why you keep arranging tournaments in India....the world is too big go beyond your fears.
Pakistan ko fir participate hi ni karna chahiye na jab PTA hai india jeetega to ?

Asked PCB to Stop sending PCT to play in 2026 World T20 as winner is already decided by ICC

:kp
 
Pakistan ko fir participate hi ni karna chahiye na jab PTA hai india jeetega to ?

Asked PCB to Stop sending PCT to play in 2026 World T20 as winner is already decided by ICC

:kp
You have named the winner, ICC (BCCI) would just facilitate as much as they could.

Obviously PCT would be dumbs to set foot in India
 
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