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See what you said and look what you posted.

Why does India care about British citizens ?? Bhindrewal will be a martyr for many Sikhs like GHODSE is for RSS.

In the farm protests there was hatred for govn yes which was there during Delhi rape case as well.

Saying majority protesters are Khalistani is like saying protests against Congress was by BJP.

You have ignored the first video that happened in India and talking about British citizens.
I never said Majority protesters are Khalistani, but Khalistan sponsored supporters are infiltrated Farm Protests.


"Khalistanis Infiltrated Farmers' Protest," Government Tells Supreme Court

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/kha...rotest-government-tells-supreme-court-2351310


Khalistan supporters have infiltrated farmer's protest: farmer's protest: Attorney general to SC.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/khalistan-supporters-have-infiltrated-farmers-protest-attorney-general-to-sc/articleshow/80233189.cms
 
Bhindrewal to Sikhs is same as Nathuram
Ghodse and Pragya sadhvi to Hindus.

Really you've done a survey of all Hindus or even a majority of them?

Again what does this have to do with the fact that the so called farmers protest was hijacked by secessionists? Doesn't deserve condemnation according to you?
 
Still don't understand how what you said is relevant to this conversation.

That Pragya Sadhvi and Nathutam Ghodse get mentioned multiple times by BjP elect, yet they(BJP ELECTS) are still in the party, so just having some random people with Bhindrewala flags doesn’t mean it was hijacked by Khalistani supporters.
 
That Pragya Sadhvi and Nathutam Ghodse get mentioned multiple times by BjP elect, yet they(BJP ELECTS) are still in the party, so just having some random people with Bhindrewala flags doesn’t mean it was hijacked by Khalistani supporters.

Having even one separatist in that crowd is pathetic - let alone so many. What exactly were they doing hobnobbing with separatists? Why were they told to get lost by the "farmers". What purpose did they solve?
 
See what you said and look what you posted.

Why does India care about British citizens ?? Bhindrewal will be a martyr for many Sikhs like GHODSE is for RSS.

In the farm protests there was hatred for govn yes which was there during Delhi rape case as well.

Saying majority protesters are Khalistani is like saying protests against Congress was by BJP.

I have gone to 4-5 Sikh gurdwaras in Germany and in California in US. Barring one, all had photos of this bhindrawala guy.
 
I have gone to 4-5 Sikh gurdwaras in Germany and in California in US. Barring one, all had photos of this bhindrawala guy.

Yeah he is terrorist to me but so is Pragya Sadhvi and Nathuram Ghodse.

All these are dependent upon religious biases as to whom we see as a terrorist.

As an Indian all of them are dangerous cult figures.

Bhindrewal is more revered by Sikhs outside India, Ghodse inside India and hence much more dangerous (imo).
 
Yeah he is terrorist to me but so is Pragya Sadhvi and Nathuram Ghodse.

All these are dependent upon religious biases as to whom we see as a terrorist.

As an Indian all of them are dangerous cult figures.

Bhindrewal is more revered by Sikhs outside India, Ghodse inside India and hence much more dangerous (imo).

Ok. So how does that make it alright for terror sympathizers and separatists to be part of the "farmer" protests. Also why did the "farmers" not ask them to get lost?
 
Yeah he is terrorist to me but so is Pragya Sadhvi and Nathuram Ghodse.

All these are dependent upon religious biases as to whom we see as a terrorist.

As an Indian all of them are dangerous cult figures.

Bhindrewal is more revered by Sikhs outside India, Ghodse inside India and hence much more dangerous (imo).

I never seen this, at least in South India.
 
Ok. So how does that make it alright for terror sympathizers and separatists to be part of the "farmer" protests. Also why did the "farmers" not ask them to get lost?

Because I support many policies of BJP inspite of their government having extremists.
 
Google ghodse and bjp

"Bhindrewal is more revered by Sikhs outside India, Ghodse inside India and hence much more dangerous"

Where did you mentioned BJP here? you are generalising

Farmers protests happened many times across South India, I never seen people holding Godse photos here.
 
Ok. So how does that make it alright for terror sympathizers and separatists to be part of the "farmer" protests. Also why did the "farmers" not ask them to get lost?

You are confusing those who were protesting with flags with ones who were actually living on the roads for more than a year. I won't be surprised if those guys were planted by BJP themselves for creating tensions between farmers but farmers wanted to protest peacefully. :inti
 
"Bhindrewal is more revered by Sikhs outside India, Ghodse inside India and hence much more dangerous"

Where did you mentioned BJP here? you are generalising

Farmers protests happened many times across South India, I never seen people holding Godse photos here.

Yeah just like you and that lurker guy is generalising all farmers and calling them khalistanis? :91: :inti
 
So you are saying Khalistanis shouldn’t be mentioned when talking about farm protests I agree..

:D

You seem to be confused. You bring in BJP, Godse and Pragya into a discussion about farmers protests and are struggling to make a point. Then you say you agree. What are you agreeing to - that it is bad to support Khalistanis? I agree if so. If not - I don't know what you are saying.
 
Yeah just like you and that lurker guy is generalising all farmers and calling them khalistanis? :91: :inti

Who said that? lol Show me a post?
I said Khalistanis infiltrated farmer protests and provided source for the same above.
I never said all farmers are Khalistanis, read again.
 
Who said that? lol Show me a post?
I said Khalistanis infiltrated farmer protests and provided source for the same above.
I never said all farmers are Khalistanis, read again.

Like extremists have infiltration BJP? Are we having a central government of extremists elements?
 
Like extremists have infiltration BJP? Are we having a central government of extremists elements?

I don't care about BJP.
This thread is about Farmers, my point is Khalistanis infiltrated farmer protests and provided the source.
 
Poor guy parachutes into a conversation he has no clue about and starts making claims.

Unlike you, I have actually seen those farmers and the houses they built on roads between Delhi and Haryana. Protest was real, farmers who were protesting were real. Don't post rubbish here because you know nothing about this issue. :inti
 
Unlike you, I have actually seen those farmers and the houses they built on roads between Delhi and Haryana. Protest was real, farmers who were protesting were real. Don't post rubbish here because you know nothing about this issue. :inti

Show me where I called all farmers Khalistanis. Still waiting. I have seen it too.. Vandals destroyed one of the best highways and routed the businesses and lives of the ppl that lived there who had nothing to do with the govt or their blackmail.

It used to take ppl 3-4 hrs to travel what would take them a few minutes on the highway thanks to these vandals. Did you notice the one mall there that became a ghost town because of these "farmers". I guess the ppl that worked there deserved to be kicked out of jobs so some ppl could stage a "protest".
 
Unlike you, I have actually seen those farmers and the houses they built on roads between Delhi and Haryana. Protest was real, farmers who were protesting were real. Don't post rubbish here because you know nothing about this issue. :inti

Well, you are claiming something what others didn't state. Now that's either a Comprehension issue or trying to turn words to fit your agenda which is a dishonest attempt.
 
NEW DELHI: Protesters broke barricades and shouted slogans against Prime Minister Narendra Modi in the Indian capital of New Delhi on Monday, after thousands of farmers gathered to protest against what they said were unfulfilled promises by the government.

More than eight months after farmers called off a year-long protest and the government conceded to several of their demands, more than 5,000 farmers gathered in the centre of the capital to protest against Modi and his government.

Farmers are demanding that the government guarantee a minimum support price for all produce and clear all farmer debts, among other things, according to a statement from the Samyukta Kisan Morcha, the farmer organisation that organised the protest on Monday.
 
Knew it, BJP deserves it for rolling back and now farmers want more.

“Clear all farmer debts”.
 
Dogs Chase Car, Their Nature": Minister On Farmer Leader Rakesh Tikait

Union Minister Ajay Mishra Teni, whose son is in jail over allegations of running over farmers, talks about "dogs barking and chasing his car" in an apparent reference to protesting farmers in a controversial speech live-streamed by his supporters.

Ajay Mishra, a Minister of State for Home in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government, also describes farmer leader Rakesh Tikait as "do kaudi ka aadmi (worthless)" in yet another display of his arrogance and defiance.

He projected himself as someone "fighting the world" and invincible as he addressed his supporters in Lakhimpur Kheri, his home turf in Uttar Pradesh.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/lak...armer-leader-3277579#pfrom=home-ndtv_bigstory
 
Kind of language these guys use! And that too when you are union minister! But not surprising since they all learnt from the ring master himself!
 
And this cretin's son ran his car over 4 farmers and 1 journalist! And he is still in the cabinet!

Well done feku maharaj!
 
And this cretin's son ran his car over 4 farmers and 1 journalist! And he is still in the cabinet!

Well done feku maharaj!

I'd love to see you interview Modi, and let that be broadcast live all over India :D
 
Dogs Chase Car, Their Nature": Minister On Farmer Leader Rakesh Tikait

Union Minister Ajay Mishra Teni, whose son is in jail over allegations of running over farmers, talks about "dogs barking and chasing his car" in an apparent reference to protesting farmers in a controversial speech live-streamed by his supporters.

Ajay Mishra, a Minister of State for Home in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government, also describes farmer leader Rakesh Tikait as "do kaudi ka aadmi (worthless)" in yet another display of his arrogance and defiance.

He projected himself as someone "fighting the world" and invincible as he addressed his supporters in Lakhimpur Kheri, his home turf in Uttar Pradesh.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/lak...armer-leader-3277579#pfrom=home-ndtv_bigstory

People don't even realize what this feku has done to this country. Anyone who supports BJP or part of it can run his mouth here and nobody will take action. Guess they didn't learn anything from Nupur Sharma incident. :inti
 
No, bro ... I didn't mean that. You'd be one of the handful of people who'd ask him the tough questions.
Bro,

My point remains same though! Whether its me (btw I'm no journalist, far from it) or anyone who can ask unscripted questions, will never ever be allowed anywhere near him. You need to remember what happened during his infamous Karan Thapar interview! Probably his last such unscripted interview, lol!

That's how scared he is from anyone who dares to ask him questions not being rehearsed/prepared by his spin doctors.
 
People don't even realize what this feku has done to this country. Anyone who supports BJP or part of it can run his mouth here and nobody will take action. Guess they didn't learn anything from Nupur Sharma incident. :inti
When feku himself runs his mouth whenever elections are near, his subjects will naturally follow him!
 
Farmers' Body To Hold Marches On Nov 26 Over Assurance Breach By Centre

New Delhi:

The Samyukta Kisan Morcha (SKM) will hold nationwide marches to Raj Bhawans on November 26, alleging breach of assurance by the Centre on farmers' pending demands, the organisation announced on Thursday.

SKM, a body of farmers' unions that spearheaded the agitation against the new farm laws later repealed by the Centre, has called a meeting on December 8 to decide the future course of the movement.

The farmers will also celebrate November 19 as "Fateh Diwas" or "Victory Day" as the Centre had ordered the repeal of the new farm laws following their agitation.

"Marches to offices of Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha MPs of all political parties will be held from December 1 to 11," SKM leader Darshan Pal said at a press conference.

The SKM also expressed disappointment at the Union government and accused the Centre of completely reneging on the written promises made to the farmers when the protest was lifted on December 9.

The farmers' body claimed that neither the committee on Minimum Support Price had been formed nor the "false" cases registered against farmers during the agitation were withdrawn.

It also accused the government of not being ready to consider the biggest demand of the farmers -- a legal guarantee on MSP.

NDTV
 

India police use tear gas on farmers demanding higher crop prices​

NEW DELHI, Feb 13 (Reuters) - Police in India fired tear gas on Tuesday at hundreds of farmers and their supporters during a protest march towards New Delhi to pressure the government to honour a promise it made in 2021 to pay more for crops.

The march is the latest in a series of similar protests which began more than two years ago and comes months ahead of national elections in which Prime Minister Narendra Modi will seek a third term, with farmers forming an influential voting bloc.

Farmers had headed south for Delhi a day after talks between farm unions and ministers failed to secure commitments to provide minimum prices for a range of crops.

"The government has not been able to make a strong decision on anything ... We thought that giving time is not suitable now," Sarwan Singh Pandher, the general secretary of Punjab Kisan Mazdoor Sangharsh Committee (KMSC), told ANI news agency.

Hundreds of farmers and their supporters were seen mobilising on foot and in large convoys of tractors in many parts of the northern breadbasket states of Punjab and Haryana.

At midday (0630 GMT), police fired multiple tear gas rounds to disperse the marchers at Shambhu, a border crossing between Punjab and Haryana, about 230 km (143 miles) north of Delhi, where many had joined the march.

Footage showed protesters trying to break through the barricades by lifting away cement blocks placed there to halt the march, as police used drones to fire tear gas rounds into the crowd. Some protesters were also detained.

GUARANTEES SOUGHT
The outskirts of Delhi were quiet with riot control teams standing guard behind barricades on main roads leading into the national capital, where police have prohibited large gatherings.

Farm unions are seeking guarantees, backed by law, for more state support or buying of crops at a minimum price. They also want the government to honour a promise to double their income.

Agriculture Minister Arjun Munda told reporters on Monday after talks with union leaders that some issues had been resolved but more discussions were needed. "We are hopeful that we will bring solutions," he said.

India's main opposition Congress party said the government had failed the farmers. "As a result of inadequate market prices and simultaneous price increase of inputs, farmers are falling deeper into debt," Congress lawmaker Jairam Ramesh said in a social media post.

The government announces minimum prices for more than 20 crops each year, but state agencies buy only rice and wheat at these prices, which benefits only about 6% of farmers.

In 2021, when the year-long protest by farmers pushed Modi's administration to repeal some farm laws, designed to deregulate vast agricultural markets, the government said it would set up a panel to find ways to ensure support prices for all farm produce. Farmers accuse the government of going slow on that promise.

Source: Reuters
 
Lol so easy to see through this..

These Punjabi farmers seems like mainly the only farmers with any issues..

India alliance must be paying top money to cause this uproar, aint change nothing but, Modichayan coming back with majority in parliament 😁
 

India police use tear gas on farmers demanding higher crop prices​

NEW DELHI, Feb 13 (Reuters) - Police in India fired tear gas on Tuesday at hundreds of farmers and their supporters during a protest march towards New Delhi to pressure the government to honour a promise it made in 2021 to pay more for crops.

The march is the latest in a series of similar protests which began more than two years ago and comes months ahead of national elections in which Prime Minister Narendra Modi will seek a third term, with farmers forming an influential voting bloc.

Farmers had headed south for Delhi a day after talks between farm unions and ministers failed to secure commitments to provide minimum prices for a range of crops.

"The government has not been able to make a strong decision on anything ... We thought that giving time is not suitable now," Sarwan Singh Pandher, the general secretary of Punjab Kisan Mazdoor Sangharsh Committee (KMSC), told ANI news agency.

Hundreds of farmers and their supporters were seen mobilising on foot and in large convoys of tractors in many parts of the northern breadbasket states of Punjab and Haryana.

At midday (0630 GMT), police fired multiple tear gas rounds to disperse the marchers at Shambhu, a border crossing between Punjab and Haryana, about 230 km (143 miles) north of Delhi, where many had joined the march.

Footage showed protesters trying to break through the barricades by lifting away cement blocks placed there to halt the march, as police used drones to fire tear gas rounds into the crowd. Some protesters were also detained.

GUARANTEES SOUGHT
The outskirts of Delhi were quiet with riot control teams standing guard behind barricades on main roads leading into the national capital, where police have prohibited large gatherings.

Farm unions are seeking guarantees, backed by law, for more state support or buying of crops at a minimum price. They also want the government to honour a promise to double their income.

Agriculture Minister Arjun Munda told reporters on Monday after talks with union leaders that some issues had been resolved but more discussions were needed. "We are hopeful that we will bring solutions," he said.

India's main opposition Congress party said the government had failed the farmers. "As a result of inadequate market prices and simultaneous price increase of inputs, farmers are falling deeper into debt," Congress lawmaker Jairam Ramesh said in a social media post.

The government announces minimum prices for more than 20 crops each year, but state agencies buy only rice and wheat at these prices, which benefits only about 6% of farmers.

In 2021, when the year-long protest by farmers pushed Modi's administration to repeal some farm laws, designed to deregulate vast agricultural markets, the government said it would set up a panel to find ways to ensure support prices for all farm produce. Farmers accuse the government of going slow on that promise.

Source: Reuters

All the very best to the farmers.

May they achieve their objective.
 
Lol so easy to see through this..

These Punjabi farmers seems like mainly the only farmers with any issues..

India alliance must be paying top money to cause this uproar, aint change nothing but, Modichayan coming back with majority in parliament 😁
These Farmers could have sold their crop to private companies for top dollar. But they did not want that. Punjabi farmers are the biggest cry babies.
 
These Farmers could have sold their crop to private companies for top dollar. But they did not want that. Punjabi farmers are the biggest cry babies.
This latest theatrics have nothing to do with any Farm laws it is purely political. Too bad Modichayan has the elections all wrapped up ah well some of these farmers can now bake in the Delhi sun 😁 for zero returns.
 
India farmers restart march to Delhi after crackdown

Indian farmers are continuing their march to the capital city as part of a protest demanding minimum crop prices.

The farmers, most of whom are from the northern state of Punjab, say they want to march peacefully to Delhi.

But the capital is ringed by razor wire, cement blocks and fencing on three sides as officials try to block their entry.

On Tuesday, police fired tear gas after protesting farmers began removing barricades on the way.

Later at night, farm leaders called a "ceasefire" and said they would resume their march on Wednesday morning.

The protest march began on Tuesday after two rounds of talks between farm union leaders and federal ministers failed to break the deadlock. More than 200 unions are participating in the march.

Farmers are asking for guaranteed floor prices - also known as minimum support price or MSP - which allows them to sell most of their produce at government-controlled wholesale markets, or mandis. They are also demanding that the government fulfil its promise of doubling farmers' income.

The farmers aim to reach the capital after crossing the state of Haryana.

Video footage on Wednesday morning showed thousands of riot police and paramilitary troops deployed along Delhi borders to keep the protesters away.

On Tuesday, visuals from the Ambala city, about 200km (125 miles) north of the capital, showed thick clouds of tear gas.

At the Shambhu border between Haryana and Punjab states, clashes broke out between police and protesters as they tried to press past the barricades. Police dropped tear gas on the crowd using drones.

Several protesters were injured in the police action. Security personnel also suffered injuries from stones pelted at them by the protesters.

Traffic jams and disruptions were reported across Delhi as authorities diverted routes and blocked roads.

Farm leader Sarwan Singh Pandher told ANI news agency that there were approximately 10,000 people at the Shambhu border. Calling the attack on the farmers "shameful", he said, "we are farmers and labourers of the country and we do not want any fight".

Farmers form an influential voting bloc in India and analysts say the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be keen not to alienate them. His Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is seeking a third consecutive term in power in general elections this year.

"Our objective is that the government listens to our demands," Mr Pandher had said ahead of the march.

In 2020, protesting farmers had hunkered down for months, blocking national highways that connect the capital to its neighbouring states. Their year-long protest, seen as one of the biggest challenges to Mr Modi's government, forced the authorities to rollback controversial agriculture reforms.

The protesters have received some support from the Punjab and Haryana High Court which has said that as citizens of the country, the farmers had the "right to move freely".

India's opposition leaders have also extended support to them and condemned the government's attempt to stop them from reaching Delhi.

Congress party leaders Rahul Gandhi and Mallikarjun Kharge said on Tuesday that they would enact a law to guarantee minimum price for the farmers if the party was voted to power in the elections.

SOURCE: BBC
 
These Farmers could have sold their crop to private companies for top dollar. But they did not want that. Punjabi farmers are the biggest cry babies.
These farmers essentially want to become govt employees with job security. The govt already buys at MSP, but govt decides how much to buy. Now the farmers want the govt to buy it all from them at MSP, whether there is demand or not. And get loans without collateral, and subsequently loans to be waived off. After 60 years, every farmer to get 10k per month. Given that almost 50% of labour is in farming, they will be essentially becoming govt employees. A huge burden on the budget. Although govt should make things easier for them, allowing them to export where they get better price, or buy from them if the govt doesnt want them to export.
 
These farmers essentially want to become govt employees with job security. The govt already buys at MSP, but govt decides how much to buy. Now the farmers want the govt to buy it all from them at MSP, whether there is demand or not. And get loans without collateral, and subsequently loans to be waived off. After 60 years, every farmer to get 10k per month. Given that almost 50% of labour is in farming, they will be essentially becoming govt employees. A huge burden on the budget. Although govt should make things easier for them, allowing them to export where they get better price, or buy from them if the govt doesnt want them to export.
Good suggestions from you. Indian GOV should take steps to get rid of these protests as these kinds of things are not in the favor of any party.
 
These Farmers could have sold their crop to private companies for top dollar. But they did not want that. Punjabi farmers are the biggest cry babies.

This latest theatrics have nothing to do with any Farm laws it is purely political. Too bad Modichayan has the elections all wrapped up ah well some of these farmers can now bake in the Delhi sun 😁 for zero returns.

The BJP bs is so consistent, it becomes hard to keep up with it after a while, even for the bhakts.

A year or so after Modi first won in 2014, the narrative was about the soldiers standing on our borders. Then it focused on farmers feeding us. The Kashmiri Pandits.

When farmers protested and strongman Modi ran for cover eventually, they became Khalistani crybabies who should bake in the sun (btw, Mr Rotti, just because you have a roof over your cab, please don't feel so smug).

When Pandits spent months protesting about the government using them as a vote-source, Pandits have vanished from the narrative.

As for soldiers, look at the state of the families of those who died in Pulwama.
 
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These farmers essentially want to become govt employees with job security. The govt already buys at MSP, but govt decides how much to buy. Now the farmers want the govt to buy it all from them at MSP, whether there is demand or not. And get loans without collateral, and subsequently loans to be waived off. After 60 years, every farmer to get 10k per month. Given that almost 50% of labour is in farming, they will be essentially becoming govt employees. A huge burden on the budget. Although govt should make things easier for them, allowing them to export where they get better price, or buy from them if the govt doesnt want them to export.
The fundamental problem is that Punjab's agriculture is not what it used to be. The excessive use of fertilisers and pesticides, coupled with other bad practices, has considerably reduced the fertility of Punjab's land. UP, MP, WB, Maharasthra and Karnataka are now producing more agricultural products and of better quality than Punjab.
If sold in the open market, Punjab's produce would either be bought at below market rates or simply not be bought at all. This is why the farmers there opposed the farm laws and are harping on the MSP.
 
The fundamental problem is that Punjab's agriculture is not what it used to be. The excessive use of fertilisers and pesticides, coupled with other bad practices, has considerably reduced the fertility of Punjab's land. UP, MP, WB, Maharasthra and Karnataka are now producing more agricultural products and of better quality than Punjab.
If sold in the open market, Punjab's produce would either be bought at below market rates or simply not be bought at all. This is why the farmers there opposed the farm laws and are harping on the MSP.
This makes sense. They want Government's guaranteed money for their low quality produce. So they want no part of Farm reforms.
 
Indian police have used tear gas and water cannon for a second day to stop farmers demanding minimum crop prices from marching on the capital Delhi.

The capital is ringed by razor wire, cement blocks and fencing on three sides to block their entry.

Mostly from Punjab state, the farmers are still 200km (125 miles) from Delhi - thousands of security forces are deployed to block their way.

Farmers say the government broke its word after protests two years ago.



BBC
 
Farmers protesting in India this week are using a homemade arsenal to counter the state-of-the-art weaponry of the security forces trying to disperse them: they're flying kites to ensnare police drones carrying tear gas canisters.

For the past two days, thousands of farmers have fought pitched battles with security forces some 200 km (125 miles) north of Delhi after police stopped their "Delhi Chalo" or "Let's go to Delhi" march to the capital to demand the government provide higher prices for their crops.

On Thursday, representatives of the farmers unions met with government officials in a bid to reach a solution.

The farmers had brought their tractors and trucks along to the protest and have used these, and other farm equipment, as deterrents to the police action: jute vegetable sacks are soaked in water and used to contain the tear gas canisters while blowers disperse the fumes.

In addition to the kites, the farmers also have sling shots and flare-guns to fire against the drones.

"Many people in this movement are veterans from the army, police or other forces, and they are suggesting ideas on how to minimise damage," said Sarvan Singh Pandher, general secretary of the Punjab Kisan Mazdoor Sangharsh Committee, one of the farm unions leading the march.

Many servicemen in India's Punjab and Haryana states turn to farming to make a living after they retire.

Karampal Singh, a 23-year-old protestor, said the police were "forcing" farmers to act this way. "Let them do what they want, we will find a solution," he said.

The police are also using their own innovative tactics.

Local media reported that this was the first time that security forces had used drones to drop tear gas canisters, and in addition to the usual sandbags and barbed wire, police have dug up strips of the road to the capital, or drilled nails into some stretches, to stop any vehicles from advancing.

Police are also using devices that emit high-pitched sounds to halt the protesters, and they have stocked up on lubricants to make the roads slippery in case the farmers try to advance on horseback, the India Today news website reported.

Police in Haryana state, which the farmers must pass through to reach Delhi, said "comprehensive" arrangements have been made to enforce the law.

"CCTVs and drones are also being used to help keep an eye on mischievous elements and miscreants," said Manisha Chaudhary, a senior police officer.

Source: Express Tribune

 
I thought this movement had ended. Well, now India will have to deal with this movement wisely, or it may become very difficult for the Indian government.
 
Farmers' protest: Protesters to resume Delhi march over crop prices

Protesting Indian farmers say they will resume marching to capital Delhi this week after rejecting a government proposal to buy some crops at assured prices on a five-year contract.

The protesters began marching last week but were stopped around 200km (125 miles) from Delhi.

Since then, farmer leaders were in talks with the government on their demands.

But on Monday night, they said the offer was "not in their interest".

The government had proposed buying pulses, maize and cotton at guaranteed floor prices - also known as Minimum Support Price or MSP - through cooperatives for five years.

But the farmers say that they will stand by their demand of a "legal guarantee for MSP on all 23 crops".

"We appeal to the government to either resolve our issues or remove barricades and allow us to proceed to Delhi to protest peacefully," Jagjit Singh Dallewal, a farm union leader, told local media.

They say they will resume marching from Wednesday.

Farmers form an influential voting bloc in India and and analysts say the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be keen not to anger or alienate them. His Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is seeking a third consecutive term in power in general elections this year.

Last week, authorities clashed with the protesters, firing tear gas and plastic bullets at them in a bid to halt the march. They fear a repeat of 2020, when thousands of farmers camped at Delhi's borders for months, forcing the government to repeal controversial agricultural reforms.

The latest round of protests began on Wednesday, when farmers from Haryana and Punjab started marching to Delhi. They say the government did not keep promises made during the 2020-21 protest, and also have demands including pensions and a debt waiver.

But their most important demand is a law guaranteeing a support price for crops.

India introduced the MSP system in the 1960s - first for only wheat and later other essential crops - in a bid for food security.

Supporters of MSP say it is necessary to protect farmers against losses due to fluctuation in prices. They argue that the resulting income boost will allow farmers to invest in new technologies, improve productivity and protect cultivators from being fleeced by middlemen.

But critics say the system needs an overhaul as it is not sustainable and will be disastrous for government finances. They also say that it will be ruinous for the agricultural sector in the long run, leading to over-cultivation and storage issues.

Since last week, federal minister Piyush Goyal and other government officials had held four rounds of talks with the farmers. On Sunday, Mr Goyal told journalists that the discussions had been "positive" and that the government was devising an "out-of-the-box" solution to benefit farmers, consumers and the economy.

But on Monday, farmer leaders said they were dissatisfied with the way the talks were being held, claiming that there was no "transparency".

BBC
 
lol, feku thinks farmers (and their unions) are idiots who'll take whatever garbage he feeds them. They're not like army aspirants who got fooled by feku and his fake agniveer promises.
 
Keep standing for your rights against a despotic regime
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Indian farmers who have been protesting for a week to demand guaranteed crop prices have rejected a proposal from the government, and say they will continue their march to the capital New Delhi.

The protesting farmers began their march last week, but their efforts to reach the city have been blocked by authorities, who have used tear gas and heavily barricaded entry points into the capital to avoid a repeat of 2021 farmer protests when they camped on the outskirts for over a year.

Late Monday night, farm leaders said they refused the government’s offer of a five-year contract for guaranteed prices for a set of crops, including pulses, maize and cotton.

The government’s proposal made Sunday was “not in the interest of farmers”, Jagjit Singh Dallewal, one of the leaders spearheading the protest, told the Press Trust of India news agency.

He added that the farmers, tens of thousands of whom have been camping out some 120 miles from the capital as they waited for the government offer, will resume their march to New Delhi on Wednesday.

Source: MSN
 
Farmers' protest: India farmers say barricades won't stop Delhi march

Police in India have fired teargas on protesting farmers who have resumed their march on capital Delhi after four rounds of talks with the federal government failed to end the deadlock.

The farmers, who are demanding assured prices for their crops, say they are prepared with months of supplies.

Delhi's borders have been fortified with several layers of barricades and barbed wires to stop their entry.

But protesters have warned they would use heavy machinery to push through.

On Wednesday, visuals from the Shambhu border between the neighbouring Punjab and Haryana states showed thousands of farmers preparing to push past barriers using bulldozers and earthmovers.

Police fired teargas at the protesters as they attempted to move towards the border, BBC Punjabi reported. Farmers, on the other hand, used masks, gloves and safety suits to protect themselves from the shelling.

Located at a distance of about 200kms (125 miles) from Delhi, farmers have been stationed at Shambhu border since last week after authorities stopped them from entering the city.

Ahead of Wednesday's march, police in Haryana asked their counterparts in Punjab to stop women, children and journalists at least 1km away from the borders for their safety. They have also asked the Punjab police to seize bulldozers and other heavy machinery from the protesting sites.

In Delhi, security has been tightened and large gatherings have been banned for a month.

Farmers' leaders say their march is peaceful and have asked the government to allow them entry into the capital.

"We tried our best from our side. We attended the meetings and discussed every issue, now the decision lies with the government. We will remain peaceful but we should be allowed to remove these barriers and march towards Delhi," farm leader Sarwan Singh Pandher told reporters.

Last week, authorities clashed with the protesters, firing tear gas and plastic bullets at them in a bid to halt the march.

They fear a repeat of 2020, when thousands of farmers hunkered down at Delhi's borders for months - braving extreme temperatures and Covid - against controversial agriculture reforms. Protesters blocked key highways connecting the capital to its neighbouring states. Dozens died in the year-long protest which ended only after the government agreed to repeal the laws.

The latest round of protests also come months before the general elections in which Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is seeing a third term in power. Farmers form an influential voting bloc in India and and analysts say the government will be keen not to anger or alienate them.

The government has so far held four rounds of meetings with farmers' unions. Protesters say the government did not keep promises made during the 2020-21 protest, and also have demands including pensions and a debt waiver.

On Tuesday, farmers' leaders rejected a proposal to buy some crops at assured prices on a five-year contract, saying the offer was "not in their interest".

The government had proposed buying pulses, maize and cotton at guaranteed floor prices - also known as Minimum Support Price or MSP - through cooperatives for five years.

But the farmers say that they will stand by their demand of a "legal guarantee for MSP on all 23 crops".

BBC
 
Farmers Say Won't March To Delhi For 2 Days, 1 Dies During Protest

A farmer has died at Haryana's Khanauri border, where protesting farmers clashed with the police this evening. Farmers' group AIKS (All-India Kisan Sabha) alleged he died during the police action, which the Haryana police have denied. The farmers have also suspended their protest march to Delhi for two days, though the sit-in protest will continue.
A doctor at a Patiala hospital where Shubh Karan Singh was taken, said he had sustained a bullet wound. A post-mortem is awaited.

"Three patients have come to us from Khanauri. One of them was dead on arrival, the other two are stable and seem to have sustained bullet injuries... but it can't be confirmed," said Dr Rekhi, the Senior Medical Officer of Patiala's Rajendra Hospital.

"The person who was dead on arrival had a bullet injury on his head, but more details such as size of the bullet can only be confirmed after postmortem," he added.

The Haryana Police had fired tear gas shells at the advancing farmers to thwart their attempts to breach the barricades at the border, the farmers said. The march was continuing after the farmer leaders rejected a proposal made by the government yesterday. It was the fourth round of talks to break the deadlock.

The Haryana Police have denied any death. A post from the police handle on X, formerly Twitter, read, "According to the information received so far, no farmer has died today... This is just a rumour. There is information about two policemen and one protestor being injured at Data Singh-Khanori border who is undergoing treatment.

Punjab Chief Minister Bhagwant Mann confirmed the death. Describing how he was acting as the interlocuter, he said, "As soon as I came to know and saw the video, I got goosebumps, I felt very sad," he told reporters.

After the death, two farmer groups issued angry statements, blaming the state police and the Central government.

Shubh Karan Singh's death "is a direct result of police action," read a statement from the AIKS. "This killing exposes the brutality of the Modi regime even while claiming to be 'farmer-friendly'. The BJP government in Haryana led by Manohar Lal Khattar is treating protesting farmers—who are marching towards Delhi— like enemy soldiers and is carrying out war-like operations," the statement added.

"The Prime Minister and the Executive that failed to implement the agreement with SKM signed on 9th December 2021 are solely responsible for the present crisis and the causality," read a statement from Samyukt Kisan Morcha or SKM.

Shubh Karan Singh, 23, was a resident of Bathinda. He was the son of Charanjit Singh, residents of village Valo in Bathinda district, said farmer leader Kaka Singh Kotra. His body has been kept at the Rajendra Hospital.

The young farmer, Mr Mann said, was the owner of 2 acres. His mother died early and he was raised by his grandmother. He had two sisters. "Why did he need to go there? He had to go to Delhi, why did he have to stay at Khanauri or Shambhu," Bhagwant Mann said.

NDTV

 
The air filled with the acrid scent of tear gas, fields that should be lush and green now serving as battlegrounds. This is not a scene from a dystopian novel, but the harsh reality facing farmers in India as they march towards New Delhi. Their demand is simple yet vital: fair prices for their crops. However, their peaceful march quickly escalates into a violent confrontation with the police, marking a significant moment in the ongoing struggle between the Indian government and its agricultural backbone.

At the heart of this turmoil lies a deep-seated frustration among farmers. For years, they have been grappling with prices that barely cover the cost of production, pushing them further into a vortex of debt and despair. The recent protest is a culmination of failed negotiations and a testament to their determination. As they resume their march towards the capital, their tractors symbolize not just a mode of transport but a symbol of resistance against policies they perceive as unjust. The police's response, barricading roads and employing tear gas, only adds fuel to the fire, propelling the farmers' resolve to break through the barriers, both literal and metaphorical.

The government, on the other hand, paints a different picture. Prime Minister Narendra Modi asserts his commitment to the farmers' welfare, envisioning a future where they transform into entrepreneurs and exporters. This narrative, however, seems disconnected from the ground realities the farmers face daily. The increase in the floor price for sugar cane, while a step in the right direction, fails to address the immediate concerns of the protesting farmers. Their demands extend beyond a single crop, seeking a comprehensive overhaul that ensures sustainable and fair pricing across the board. The death of a young protester has momentarily paused the campaign, but the farmers' spirit remains unbroken, with leaders from various states convening to strategize their next move.

The standoff between the Indian farmers and the government is more than just a dispute over crop prices; it's a reflection of the larger challenges facing the agricultural sector in India. As the farmers press on with their demands, the issue has transcended economic concerns, posing a significant political risk for Modi's party in the upcoming elections. The farmers, a formidable voter bloc, seek not just immediate relief but long-term policies that recognize their contributions and ensure their prosperity. As the world watches, the resolution of this conflict will not only determine the fate of India's farmers but also shape the future of agricultural policies in the country.

BNN

 
The situation faced by Indian farmers,highlights the pressing requirement for the government to promptly address their demands. Fair crop prices go beyond economic justice, they represent a fundamental recognition of the indispensable role farmers play in our nation's welfare. It's high time the Indian government initiates meaningful dialogue, attentively heeds the farmers' concerns, and puts in place policies ensuring their rights and prosperity. Resolving this conflict isn't solely for immediate relief, it's about sculpting a sustainable and fair future for India's agricultural sector.
 
The situation faced by Indian farmers,highlights the pressing requirement for the government to promptly address their demands. Fair crop prices go beyond economic justice, they represent a fundamental recognition of the indispensable role farmers play in our nation's welfare. It's high time the Indian government initiates meaningful dialogue, attentively heeds the farmers' concerns, and puts in place policies ensuring their rights and prosperity. Resolving this conflict isn't solely for immediate relief, it's about sculpting a sustainable and fair future for India's agricultural sector.
I've been reluctant to comment on this thread because I'm not quite sure where I stand. On one hand, increased Minimum Support Prices (MSP) conflict with India's obligations under the WTO, are not sustainable long term - when countries like Ukraine and the States are happy to supply cheap wheat using large large landholdings and modern equipment, how long can you keep subsidising domestic production?

On the other hand, India is still a predominantly agrarian economy and if the farmers were making enough to live comfortably, they wouldn't be leaving their homes and families behind and marching for days braving tear gas.

Long term, we have to acknowledge that Indian agriculture cannot support the number of people currently depending on it and still produce food at an economical enough rate to feed a billion and a half folks. We have to move people to other areas like industry and service. In the interim though, the rest of the economy will have to subsidise agriculture to a considerable extent - it's inefficient, demanding & infuriating but we'll have to live with it. Likely two thirds of the population depends on it and if the price is higher MSP, I think we'll have to pay it.
 
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Leftists along with their global anarchist partners will do anything to destabilize the rightwing BJP.

Its amusing to see people like Rihanna, Mia Khalifa, Greta and other Western celebrities tweet in support of Farmers protests. Not to forget the Khalistani elements rioting in the guise of Punjabi Farmers.
 
Farmers' Delhi Chalo March continues on 17th day in India

On the 17th day of the Delhi Chalo March, Haryana police continue to use force against protesting farmers.

Protest resumes after farmers' leaders reject govt's new proposal. Haryana police issue threats of action against protesters involved in the Delhi Chalo March. Visas of protesting farmers from Haryana are cancelled.

Farmers participating in India's Delhi Chalo March have been protesting at the Khannuori and Shambhu borders in Haryana since February 13. Sharp criticism is directed at Prime Minister Modi's touted national Swam Seva Sangh by agricultural experts.

The farmers' protests led to the severe crisis of diesel and cylinder gas in Punjab. The tractor march towards Delhi-Noida border severely impacts traffic. Thousands of farmers protest at the Punjab-Haryana border, 200 kilometers away from Delhi.

Mobile internet services in Haryana-Ambala districts are again disrupted due to the march.

Joint farmer organizations, including the Samyukta Kisan Morcha and Kisan Mazdoor Morcha, announce a series of continuous protest demonstrations, leading the protests at the Shambhu-Khanuari borders.

Farmer unions outside Punjab also call for expanding the protests.

SAMAA
 

Maybe there is more to the farmers protest, Modichayan may not have the farmers best interest...
 
Leftists along with their global anarchist partners will do anything to destabilize the rightwing BJP.

Its amusing to see people like Rihanna, Mia Khalifa, Greta and other Western celebrities tweet in support of Farmers protests. Not to forget the Khalistani elements rioting in the guise of Punjabi Farmers.

I saw pictures of the concrete roadblocks built to stop the farmer's protests. If you need to build those manned by armed forces, then the Khalistani elements must be bigger than the image projected.
 
Farmer leaders Sarwan Singh Pandher and Jagjit Singh Dallewal on Sunday gave a call to the farmers across the nation to reach Delhi on March 6 for a protest while they also gave a four-hour 'rail roko' countrywide call for March 10 in support of their various demands.

The two farmer leaders asserted that the farmers' ongoing agitation will be intensified at the existing protest points and will continue till their demands are met by the government.

They were speaking in Bathinda district's Balloh village, the native village of a farmer who died recently during clashes with the Haryana security personnel in Khanauri.

Kisan Mazdoor Morcha (KMM) are spearheading the 'Delhi Chalo' march by the farmers to press the government to accept their demands, which includes that the Centre should give a legal guarantee of the Minimum Support Price (MSP) for the crops.

Both forums decided that while the farmers from Punjab and Haryana will continue to support the ongoing agitation at Shambhu and Khanauri border points, the farmers and farm labourers from other states should reach Delhi on March 6 for a protest in the national capital in support of the farmers' demands.

"The farmers from far away states, who cannot reach on tractor trolleys, should head to Delhi by trains and by other means of transport. It will also become clear whether the government allows those farmers to enter those farmers who go without tractor trolleys," Sarwan Pandher said addressing the gathering at Balloh.

"At Shambhu and Khanauri, the agitation will continue like before and will be further intensified. Our agitation will continue till the demands are met," he added.

Sarwan Pandher said the two forums to spread this agitation countrywide call upon the farmers and labourers across the country that the 'rail roko' protest will be held in the country from 12 pm to 4 pm on March 10 to put pressure on the government to meet the farmers' demands.

Sarwan Pandher said that all Punjab panchayats should pass a resolution in support of the farmers' demands and from every village a tractor trolley reaches the protest border points.

He said that the Centre had never before used drones in the farmers agitation as the Haryana Police used recently.

The Haryana authorities have barricaded Shambhu and Khanauri, and made it like the Punjab-Haryana international border, he said.

Sarwan Pandher said that the Centre used all tactics to stop their Delhi Chalo march.

"The Centre is trying to build a perception that the current agitation is limited to Punjab and the fight is led by only two forums. But we want to make it clear that more than 200 outfits in the country are part of the two forums," he said.

Alleging the Centre does not want to resolve the farmers' issue, Sarwan Pandher also accused the BJP of playing divisive politics to win the elections.

"Farmers and farm labourers are not on their agenda," Sarwan Pandher claimed.

"But our fight will continue. The perception being created that the agitation may die down when Model Code of Conduct for the polls come into force is not correct. We may have to fight today, tomorrow, but we will continue fight for our rights," he said.

Sarwan Pandher also reiterated that India should come out of WTO agreement.

Jagjit Dallewal on his part underlined, "We will have to fight till our last breath and we will fight till demands are met." He said those who claim that agitation is limited to only Punjab, "then why curfew like situation has been imposed on Haryana borders".

Meanwhile, some resolutions, including FIR against those officials who gave orders to fire rubber bullets and other 'coercive' action against the protesting farmers, were also passed on the occasion.

Talking to reporters later, Jagjit Dallewal said, "I want to clarify that our programme of Delhi Chalo stands. We will continue to protest in a peaceful manner." "We will increase numbers on the borders where we are agitating," he added.

Replying to a question, Jagjit Dallewal said though the Centre has not invited them for fresh round of talks, but they have never said no to talks whenever the government has invited them.

He said that the sacrifice of Shubhakaran Singh will not go in vain and the struggle will continue until the demands are met.

When asked that Samyukta Kisan Morcha, which spearheaded the 2020-21 farmers' agitation, has said over 400 farmers' outfits will participate in the 'Kisan Mahapanchayat' in Delhi on March 14 to press the Centre to accept the farmers' demands, including a law on the MSP, Sarwan Pandher said that everyone has right to hold protest.

The protesting farmers have been staying put at the Shambhu and Khanauri border points between Punjab and Haryana after their "Delhi Chalo" march was stopped by the security forces.

They began their march on February 13 but were stopped by the security forces, which led to clashes at the Shambhu and Khanauri border points on Haryana-Punjab border.

 
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