Indian Muslims most content in world: RSS chief Bhagwat

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

NEW DELHI: Indian Muslims are the most content in the world, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat said while asserting that people from all faiths have stood together whenever it has been about the essence of India.

He also said any kind of bigotry and separatism are spread only by those whose self-interest gets affected.

Citing that many Muslims fought in Mewar king Maharana Pratap's army against Mughal emperor Akbar, Bhagwat suggested that in India's history, people from all faiths stood together whenever there was an attack on the country's culture.

"Most content Muslims are only in India," Bhagwat said and wondered if there is any example world over wherein a foreign religion that ruled over the people of a country still exists there.

"Nowhere. It is only in India," he said in an interview to 'Vivek', a Hindi magazine based in Maharashtra.

Unlike India, Pakistan did not give rights to followers of other religions and it was created as a separate country for Muslims.

"Our Constitution did not say that only Hindus can stay here; hereafter only Hindus will be heard here; if you want to stay here, then you have to accept the superiority of Hindus. We created a space for them. This is the nature of our nation, and that inherent nature is called Hindu," he said.

Elaborating his views, the head of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the ideological mentor of the ruling BJP, said Hindu has nothing to do with whom does one worship. Religion should be connecting, uplifting, uniting everyone in one single thread.

"Whenever the devotion for India and its culture awakens and feeling of pride arises for the ancestors, the distinctions between all religions disappear and people from all faiths stand together," Bhagwat said.

Talking about the Ram temple in Ayodhya, Bhagwat said it is not meant for mere ritualistic purpose, the temple is a symbol of national values and character.

"The reality is that temples were destructed to crush the morale and values of the people of this country. That is why Hindu society from a long wished to reconstruct the temples. Our life was corrupted, and we were humiliated by destructing the temple of our ideal Shri Ram. We want to rebuild it, enhance it and therefore, this grand temple is being constructed,” he said.

The 'bhoomi pujan' ceremony for the Ram temple in Ayodhya was performed in August, after the Supreme Court's verdict in the Ram Janmabhoomi-Babri Masjid title suit paved the way for its construction.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/in...ss-chief-bhagwat/amp_articleshow/78577248.cms

 

[Bigboii]

They must be doing a bad job than

He should resign after this statement cause he admitted his failure as an organizations head

 

[Abdullah719]

 

[KingKhanWC]

if you want to stay here, then you have to accept the superiority of Hindus

200 Million Indian Muslims have accepted this?

 

[Zaz]

Who is he kidding?

Did he try to say it with a straight face?

 

[Lurker_Ind]

They are content because of organizations like RSS who don’t let them eat what they want.

 

[MP2011]

Content to be abused and lynched for their religious beliefs on daily basis?

 

[Slog]

Ok I literally LOLed

 

[Madplayer]

He must be high on bhaang. Or power.

 

[Itachi]

Indian Muslims have never allowed an outsider to interfere their business inside India. From time to time, whoever tried to show sympathy by provoking against the nation, they were told by Indian Muslims to mind their own business.

Indian Muslims are content with the system. There are grievances that's a different issue but having trust on the framework itself while grievances are being addressed is an achievement in itself.

There's a reason why many Pak ppers here have stated time to time that, they feel no sympathy towards Indian Muslims since they put nation first.

Though, Pakistani ppers will find it hard to fathom, systemic discrimination doesn't exist in Indian constitution though it does exist in constitution of Pakistan. And that itself is enough to denote why Indian Muslims who stayed back never allowed outsiders to voice for them.

 

[Madplayer]

Indian Muslims have never allowed an outsider to interfere their business inside India. From time to time, whoever tried to show sympathy by provoking against the nation, they were told by Indian Muslims to mind their own business.

Indian Muslims are content with the system. There are grievances that's a different issue but having trust on the framework itself while grievances are being addressed is an achievement in itself.

There's a reason why many Pak ppers here have stated time to time that, they feel no sympathy towards Indian Muslims since they put nation first.

Though, Pakistani ppers will find it hard to fathom, systemic discrimination doesn't exist in Indian constitution though it does exist in constitution of Pakistan. And that itself is enough to denote why Indian Muslims who stayed back never allowed outsiders to voice for them.

This has changed now. You are living in the year 2005 if you believe this holds true now.

 

[Itachi]

This has changed now. You are living in the year 2005 if you believe this holds true now.

It was proven in the CAA agitation in itself.

 

[Madplayer]

It was proven in the CAA agitation in itself.

Have you talked to many muslims over the past year?

I have and they have no hope from the judiciary or the executive. So much so that they began complaining to gulf states when a sanghi working there spouted Islamophobic hate against them. That's wanting some kind of outside interference which admittedly was never seen before.

If you have talked to many Indian muslims and think they're content, then i'd say the opinion must be divided among them.

 

[Itachi]

Have you talked to many muslims over the past year?

I have and they have no hope from the judiciary or the executive. So much so that they began complaining to gulf states when a sanghi working there spouted Islamophobic hate against them. That's wanting some kind of outside interference which admittedly was never seen before.

If you have talked to many Indian muslims and think they're content, then i'd say the opinion must be divided among them.

The real nature of any person/population comes out in conflicts. Here, I am not talking about what handful of people wants or with what agenda they have come with but overall Muslim leaders across the nation which was united during the CAA agitation irrespective of their own differences.

They had every chance to pick the opportunity when outsiders were showing sympathy and reaching out but they consistently rejected while opposing the bill. They didn't allow any alien force to even voice and trusted the framework to address their grievances.

That's an achievement of the framework which still ignites sense of trust and security. "content" doesn't mean everyone will be happy. It means, even if they are unhappy, the existing framework is still being trusted and no pillar has shaken. the CAA/CAB agitation showed it in front of everyone.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

if you want to stay here, then you have to accept the superiority of Hindus. We created a space for them. This is the nature of our nation, and that inherent nature is called Hindu," he said.

Love this quote.

 

[Madplayer]

The real nature of any person/population comes out in conflicts. Here, I am not talking about what handful of people wants or with what agenda they have come with but overall Muslim leaders across the nation which was united during the CAA agitation irrespective of their own differences.

They had every chance to pick the opportunity when outsiders were showing sympathy and reaching out but they consistently rejected while opposing the bill. They didn't allow any alien force to even voice and trusted the framework to address their grievances.

That's an achievement of the framework which still ignites sense of trust and security. "content" doesn't mean everyone will be happy. It means, even if they are unhappy, the existing framework is still being trusted and no pillar has shaken. the CAA/CAB agitation showed it in front of everyone.

Where did you get all of this from? That they disallowed and rejected any outisider raising a voice from them? This sounds like its just in your head because i clearly saw the opposite where countless Indian muslims were reaching out to gulf states, the UN and what not.

 

[Itachi]

i clearly saw the opposite where countless Indian muslims were reaching out to gulf states, the UN and what not.

Show it.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Love this quote.

He didn't give the speech in english, so that was not the actual quote.

 

[CricketCartoons]

he is a progressive liberal right winger. Lots of quotes which the media hides or mis translates for their own agenda.

There Can Be No Hindutva Without Muslims - RSS Chief.

"They have the freedom to not call themselves (Hindu) but they have one national identity. We call it Hindu. Some people proudly say they are Hindu. Some people know but they don't have so much pride about it. That's okay," he said. "Some people won't say it because of material consideration and political correctness. Some people say it privately. Others have forgotten or have been made to forget. But all these people are ours. In our view, together we are a Hindu community."

The RSS view ( and mine too) is that all indians are hindus, and they are free to call themselves whatever, no forcing them, but we consider all of them as ours.

 

[Madplayer]

Show it.

You can't really show a sentiment. Anyone who has followed the events related to CAA know this. Especially on social media where the Sanghi trolls were compelled to remove the place of working from social media before they could safely abuse Islam and muslims. I understand you'd want to deny it but that's just burying the head in sand.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He didn't give the speech in english, so that was not the actual quote.

Noted. I will put an addendum here that it was an approximate translation of his speech.

 

[Itachi]

You can't really show a sentiment. Anyone who has followed the events related to CAA know this. Especially on social media where the Sanghi trolls were compelled to remove the place of working from social media before they could safely abuse Islam and muslims. I understand you'd want to deny it but that's just burying the head in sand.

As long as the Muslims are content, why it matters what others will say?

I am guessing you have nothing to add here.

Facts don't care about emotions. Muslims leaders along with the community has shown that they don't want alien force to corrupt their agenda.

If you have any material to object otherwise, feel free to post.

 

[Madplayer]

As long as the Muslims are content, why it matters what others will say?

I am guessing you have nothing to add here.

Facts don't care about emotions. Muslims leaders along with the community has shown that they don't want alien force to corrupt their agenda.

If you have any material to object otherwise, feel free to post.

I guess you really want to believe that muslims are content. Alright, if you wish so.
You made an active claim above that muslims rejected something:

"They had every chance to pick the opportunity when outsiders were showing sympathy and reaching out but they consistently rejected while opposing the bill."

Can you back this up with the facts that you speak of?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

What would happen if Indian Muslims say they are not content in India? They would be told that they can leave the country. Or go to Pakistan.

A minority is not in a position to complain about their status in a third world country.

 

[CricketCartoons]

What would happen if Indian Muslims say they are not content in India? They would be told that they can leave the country. Or go to Pakistan.

A minority is not in a position to complain about their status in a third world country.

RSS Chief, Mohan Bhagwat Ji has never made any such intolerant comment. He is the second Gandhi. You should read some of his statements, right from the progressive liberal book.

 

[Greenstorm]

he is a progressive liberal right winger. Lots of quotes which the media hides or mis translates for their own agenda.

There Can Be No Hindutva Without Muslims - RSS Chief.



The RSS view ( and mine too) is that all indians are hindus, and they are free to call themselves whatever, no forcing them, but we consider all of them as ours.

India here refers to akhand bharat India or present day India ?

How can indian Muslims be Muslims and Hindus at the same time ?

 

[CricketCartoons]

India here refers to akhand bharat India or present day India ?

How can indian Muslims be Muslims and Hindus at the same time ?

Present day india.

hindu is a geographical term and a national identity. any citizen of hindustan is a hindu. By religion they can be christian or muslim or parsee. hope that answers your question.

 

[Greenstorm]

Present day india.

hindu is a geographical term and a national identity. any citizen of hindustan is a hindu. By religion they can be christian or muslim or parsee. hope that answers your question.

Why can't they use the term 'Indian' for the same ?

 

[saeedhk]

He is correct. Muslims are better protected in India than in Pakistan.

 

[Slog]

He is correct. Muslims are better protected in India than in Pakistan.

lol. Are you trying to become new Mamoon haha

 

[saeedhk]

lol. Are you trying to become new Mamoon haha

Isn’t that true? Compare how may Muslims have been killed in Pakistan in the last 15 years and how many Muslims have been killed in India over the same period.

Pakistan which was made for Muslims is not a safe place for Muslims.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why can't they use the term 'Indian' for the same ?

Why can't they use the term Hindu, whose original meaning was inhabitants of hind. What you call the hindu religion is actually sanatan dharm, and the word hindu is not mentioned in the "hindu" religious scriptures.

 

[Slog]

Isn’t that true? Compare how may Muslims have been killed in Pakistan in the last 15 years and how many Muslims have been killed in India over the same period.

Pakistan which was made for Muslims is not a safe place for Muslims.

This is a stupid metric. Firstly I would like you to dig up that stats but it’s irrelevant anyway cuz By that logic India is the worst place for Hindus as well.

 

[CricketCartoons]

This is a stupid metric. Firstly I would like you to dig up that stats but it’s irrelevant anyway cuz By that logic India is the worst place for Hindus as well.

What is the right metric to measure the safety of various demographics in a country?

 

[Slog]

What is the right metric to measure the safety of various demographics in a country?

I don’t think there is any one metric. But someone making a claim should have some metric atleast.

However I only see publications terming India as a dangerous for Muslims and not Pakistan necessarily. Pakistan on the whole and in general may be more unsafe than indja but this is not a general claim.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I don’t think there is any one metric. But someone making a claim should have some metric atleast.

However I only see publications terming India as a dangerous for Muslims and not Pakistan necessarily. Pakistan on the whole and in general may be more unsafe than indja but this is not a general claim.

Ok, there can be various metrics. Can you list at least one of such good metrics?

Would be interested to see these publications you talk about. Are those research papers with data, or opinions with anecdotes? Do they also do decadal comparisons and do they also do a comparison for other prominent demographies?

 

[MenInG]

Isn’t that true? Compare how may Muslims have been killed in Pakistan in the last 15 years and how many Muslims have been killed in India over the same period.

Pakistan which was made for Muslims is not a safe place for Muslims.

Your hate for Pakistan is pretty clear which really makes all your views irrelevant.

Good luck.

 

[IMMY69]

Indian Muslims have never allowed an outsider to interfere their business inside India. From time to time, whoever tried to show sympathy by provoking against the nation, they were told by Indian Muslims to mind their own business.

Indian Muslims are content with the system. There are grievances that's a different issue but having trust on the framework itself while grievances are being addressed is an achievement in itself.

There's a reason why many Pak ppers here have stated time to time that, they feel no sympathy towards Indian Muslims since they put nation first.

Though, Pakistani ppers will find it hard to fathom, systemic discrimination doesn't exist in Indian constitution though it does exist in constitution of Pakistan. And that itself is enough to denote why Indian Muslims who stayed back never allowed outsiders to voice for them.

I’ll read this gem to some of my Muslim family who still live in India and to my Indian friends..

 

[Mesozoic]

Surely not "most content" but definitely are in a much better state than most other Islamic countries despite being in a minority. There are no laws and state imposed restrictions on any sect and there's more liberty for women and less religious Muslims.

Yes... there'll be odd instances of violence in a 1.4 BN third world country but an average Indian Muslim would much rather live in India than a Sharia zone except maybe UAE and Malaysia.

 

[Tubs]

(x) Doubt

 

[Zaz]

Theres no discrimination or bias against indian muslims There must be other reasons why they are behind in all metrics in indian society

They are very content in living like this

 

[saeedhk]

This is a stupid metric. Firstly I would like you to dig up that stats but it’s irrelevant anyway cuz By that logic India is the worst place for Hindus as well.

India is a secular state while Pakistan was supposed to be a safe haven for Muslims. Pakistan became into existence on the premise that Muslims would be safe in this country.

 

[kaayal]

The RSS is working with a clear aim of the Hindu country in the ideology of Hindutva. They have brought up a public opinion in favor of it by keeping the Muslims on the enemy side since the day India decided to stand secular even after partition. In Germany, the Jews were the enemies that Nazis chose to come to power. In India, the Sangh Parivar fascism has chosen the Muslims. it is not easy to correct the public sense established by Sangh Parivar in seven decades. Muslims have no choice but to politically empower themselves and support multiply parties instead of giving unconditional heads to mainstream parties.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As long as the Muslims are content, why it matters what others will say?

I am guessing you have nothing to add here.

Facts don't care about emotions. Muslims leaders along with the community has shown that they don't want alien force to corrupt their agenda.

If you have any material to object otherwise, feel free to post.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...iots-hindu-violence-army-rights-a9370111.html

What next for India's Muslims? More suffering and a further crackdown on their rights by the Modi government

 

[Itachi]

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...iots-hindu-violence-army-rights-a9370111.html

What next for India's Muslims? More suffering and a further crackdown on their rights by the Modi government

Wrong information provided in the article. I went through NRC so as all other Assamese people regardless of religion. It occurred in various stages and documents cited in the article wasn't required at all.

And NRC was under supreme court. It wasn't under central govt.

 

[kaayal]

Indian Muslims have never allowed an outsider to interfere their business inside India. From time to time, whoever tried to show sympathy by provoking against the nation, they were told by Indian Muslims to mind their own business.

Indian Muslims are content with the system. There are grievances that's a different issue but having trust on the framework itself while grievances are being addressed is an achievement in itself.

There's a reason why many Pak ppers here have stated time to time that, they feel no sympathy towards Indian Muslims since they put nation first.

Though, Pakistani ppers will find it hard to fathom, systemic discrimination doesn't exist in Indian constitution though it does exist in constitution of Pakistan. And that itself is enough to denote why Indian Muslims who stayed back never allowed outsiders to voice for them.

You are wrong. The trust of Indian Muslims in these central institutions has shaken a lot. Sangh Parivar has got their hands on majority of India’s institutions from Election Commissions to the Supreme court. There is little hope that you will get justice If you are a Muslim especially in the BJP ruled states. It’s not like the Indian Muslims are now going to riot because of this or wash their dirty laundry out in public, but yeah everyone realises it now and there is clear resentment.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are wrong. The trust of Indian Muslims in these central institutions has shaken a lot. Sangh Parivar has got their hands on majority of India’s institutions from Election Commissions to the Supreme court. There is little hope that you will get justice If you are a Muslim especially in the BJP ruled states. It’s not like the Indian Muslims are now going to riot because of this or wash their dirty laundry out in public, but yeah everyone realises it now and there is clear resentment.

The same is true for a hindu when Congress and other parties like SP TMC are in power.

 

[kaayal]

The same is true for a hindu when Congress and other parties like SP TMC are in power.

It’s no where close to what a Muslim feels like in a Majority hindu country. When was the last time a hindu had to suffer like these even in a Congress rule??

Siddique Kappan has been a journalist for nine years, covering north India for a Malayalam-language news site. Masood Ahmed was preparing for his civil services exam; Atikur Rehman for his PhD. On Monday, the three of them, along with an embroiderer-turned-driver, Mohammad Alam, were on their way to Hathras to meet the gang-rape victim's family when they were detained at Mathura. They have been charged with sedition and under the stringent . They have been charged with sedition and under the stringent UAPA. For covering news? Seriously???

Do i need to say more about Kafeel Khan? Or the Muslim dead bodies which the UP Police buried in the midnight before the Hathras case came to light? No media is interested in publicising Muslim sufferings now because it has no news value like the Kashmiri Muslims sufferings. Only Hindu Fascism sells and that’s why Arnab Goswami and his likes exist.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The same is true for a hindu when Congress and other parties like SP TMC are in power.

Big statement. Prove it now.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wrong information provided in the article. I went through NRC so as all other Assamese people regardless of religion. It occurred in various stages and documents cited in the article wasn't required at all.

And NRC was under supreme court. It wasn't under central govt.

Your personal experience as an atheist hindu is no benchmark for how Muslims are affected. Independent news site is one of the most respected in the world, it is a more credible source than some anonymous Indian poster on a forum.

 

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[rhony]

India blew it. Indian muslims stood with GOI during the Kashmir issue despite provocations. They accepted Triple talaq, Ayodhya. They helped run BJP's main agenda items without any major issues. Instead of gratitude, BJP tried to question their existence with CAA or atleast that's how it was perceived. Absolute stupidity from BJP when the real enemy is the new communist urban naxal. Thought Shah was smart but turned out to be a big idiot with not much brain.

 

[Kroll]

India blew it. Indian muslims stood with GOI during the Kashmir issue despite provocations. They accepted Triple talaq, Ayodhya. They helped run BJP's main agenda items without any major issues. Instead of gratitude, BJP tried to question their existence with CAA or atleast that's how it was perceived. Absolute stupidity from BJP when the real enemy is the new communist urban naxal. Thought Shah was smart but turned out to be a big idiot with not much brain.

Exactly, the Indian Muslims are a loyal community - the best in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India blew it. Indian muslims stood with GOI during the Kashmir issue despite provocations. They accepted Triple talaq, Ayodhya. They helped run BJP's main agenda items without any major issues. Instead of gratitude, BJP tried to question their existence with CAA or atleast that's how it was perceived. Absolute stupidity from BJP when the real enemy is the new communist urban naxal. Thought Shah was smart but turned out to be a big idiot with not much brain.

Hindus also accepted a secular nation, special rights for muslims, etc etc etc. So?

CAA was very much necessary. The non muslims of the sub continent need to have a chance to live in a respectful manner.

My state has been ravaged by BDeshi infiltration. All over India these people are creating problems. On top of that the Rohingyas have come. We dont want them in our country. You wsnt them take them to your country.

 

[Bigboii]

Exactly, the Indian Muslims are a loyal community - the best in India.

loyalty doesn't equal being a timid sheep who is exited about getting slaughtered

When you don't call out people for injustices than you shouldn't complain about injustice either

Kashmiris, Chechens, Pashtuns , Armenian's on the other hand are proud people and the kind of people I genuinely respect

They call out/ fight the injustice

 

[Madplayer]

Exactly, the Indian Muslims are a loyal community - the best in India.

Everyone with a few brain cells knew that it will only take one right wing party to throw the Indian muslims under the bus. Unfortunately, instead of creating strong political unity based on shared beleifs, Indian muslims were living in a world of their own where defending the killing of Kashmiris will keep earning them respect in eyes of bloodthirsty fascists and closet fascists. Well, you can only milk a cow for so long.

 

[Itachi]

Your personal experience as an atheist hindu is no benchmark for how Muslims are affected. Independent news site is one of the most respected in the world, it is a more credible source than some anonymous Indian poster on a forum.

I am not here to convince someone in a forum about how NRC was done. I can only explain.

You don't believe, that's OK.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am not here to convince someone in a forum about how NRC was done. I can only explain.

You don't believe, that's OK.

Agreed. That is why I posted a trusted British news source which I know most Indians respect as opposed to some random Muslim news site.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Agreed. That is why I posted a trusted British news source which I know most Indians respect as opposed to some random Muslim news site.

These news sources are trusted, but not infallible. Most of the reports I see from these publications is written by indian or indian origin writers, who are either mistaken or deliberately writing half truths. CAA was branded as an anti muslim law, which is a half truth. The truth that they omitted was that the constitution is full of laws which can be branded as anti hindu, anti muslim, anti sikh, anti dalit, anti upper caste and anti male.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

These news sources are trusted, but not infallible. Most of the reports I see from these publications is written by indian or indian origin writers, who are either mistaken or deliberately writing half truths. CAA was branded as an anti muslim law, which is a half truth. The truth that they omitted was that the constitution is full of laws which can be branded as anti hindu, anti muslim, anti sikh, anti dalit, anti upper caste and anti male.

This may all be true, but as it is never raised by British Indians, then it is difficult for me to believe an outsider. We British trust our own sources implicitly unless we are given reason to do otherwise. I see no hue and cry about British news sources from Indians in general and we have to remember we British are trusted members of the UN security council which gives us more credibility on a worldwide scale.

 

[CricketCartoons]

This may all be true, but as it is never raised by British Indians, then it is difficult for me to believe an outsider. We British trust our own sources implicitly unless we are given reason to do otherwise. I see no hue and cry about British news sources from Indians in general and we have to remember we British are trusted members of the UN security council which gives us more credibility on a worldwide scale.

Agreed, as a neutral person you would trust what you read from these publications. Problem is that others are either not learned enough about this issue or don't have the platform. So the half truth becomes the whole truth.

I can quote verbatim from the indian constitution about laws which can be deemed anti-so and so. There are many articles like that. But unless it is posted on the trusted british journals, it will not matter.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

I think this is true. They enjoy the Indian culture dominated by Bollywood not necessarily accepted in Muslim majority nations and even expats are conservative communities. The Muslim representation in media and inter-marriage is certainly an anomaly in Muslim world. Very liberal outlook.

 

[PakLFC]

To be Indian now one must be obsessed in their hatred for Pakistan. Most Hindu fanatics do not realise that the star crescent is not always a Pakistani flag but Islamic symbol also used by Turkey, Malaysia, Maldives and Tunisia too. The guy with the weird voice bullying the Muslim would never dare do this to a Pakistani in the Middle East or somewhere else. It is so easy to sound brave when living in your own country of Hindu fascists who are always looking for excuses to attack their Muslim's. Seems as if Hindu fanatics want a civil war in India.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Everyone Living In India Is 'Hindu', Says RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday said every person living in the country is a 'Hindu' and the DNA of all Indians is the same, and asserted there was no need for anyone to change his way of offering rituals.

Addressing an event of Swayamsevaks (Sangh volunteers) in Ambikapur, the headquarters of Chhattisgarh's Surguja district, he repeatedly highlighted unity in diversity as India's age-old feature and said Hindutva is the only idea in the world that believes in taking everyone along.

“We have been telling since 1925 (when RSS was founded) that everyone living in India is a Hindu. Those who consider India as their 'matrubhoomi' (mother land) and want to live with a culture of unity in diversity and make efforts in this direction, irrespective of whatever religion, culture, language and food habit and ideology they follow, are Hindus,” Bhagwat said.

He said the ideology of Hindutva recognises diversity and believes in unity among people.

“Hindutva is the only idea in the entire world that believes in unifying diversities because it has carried such diversities together in this country for thousands of years. This is the truth and you have to speak it firmly. On the basis of it we can be united. The Sangh's work is to build individual and national character and bring unity among people," added the RSS leader.

He emphasized on respecting everyone's faith and asserted the DNA of all Indians is the same and they had common ancestors.

“Despite having diversities we all are like one…We had common ancestors. Every Indian who is part of the 40,000-year old 'Akhand Bharat' has common DNA. Our ancestors had taught that everyone should stick to their faith and rituals and not try to convert others' faith. Every path leads to a common place,” said Bhagwat.

The RSS leader called for respecting all religious faiths and their rituals.

“Respect everyone's faith and rituals. Accept everyone and walk on your own way. Fulfil your wishes, but don't be so selfish to not take care of wellbeing of others," he added.

Bhagwat said the entire country fought the coronavirus pandemic unitedly.

“Our culture connects us. No matter how much we fight among ourselves, we become united in times of crises. We fight together when the country faces some kind of trouble. During the coronavirus pandemic the whole country stood as one to deal with it," he maintained.

Appealing to people to visit Sangh's 'sakhas' (congregation of RSS workers), he said the 97-year-old organization's aim is to unite people and make societies influential while walking on the path of truth.

“Don't look at the Sangh from a distance as a spectator. Make your personality useful for the country and work for the welfare of the country and the society. Become swayamsevak to lead such life,” Bhagwat added.

NDTV

 

[ex-q-zit]

"All People Living In India Are Hindus": RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat

Darbhanga: RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat Monday asserted that all people living in India were by definition Hindus and diversity had flourished in the country because of the cultural ethos of the land.

Anybody who agrees to sing Sanskrit verses in praise of Bharat Mata and is committed to preservation of the culture of the land is a Hindu, the 'Sarsanghchalak' said.

Mr Bhagwat who was addressing RSS workers here before concluding his four-day tour of Bihar, said the mammoth organisation will become redundant if all citizens of the country adopt the spirit of selfless service exhibited by the 'Swayamsevaks' (RSS volunteers).

"People should understand that because they live in Hindustan, they all are Hindus. They might by other things as well, but all other identities have been made possible because of Hindu ethos of acceptance ... Hindutva is the name for the centuries old culture to which all the diverse streams owe their origin," he said.

"Different branches may have stemmed and may seem opposed to each other, but they all trace their beginning to the same source," Mr Bhagwat said.

The septuagenarian RSS chief said values like seeing oneself in others, viewing women as mothers and not objects of lust and not coveting wealth that belongs to others defined the Hindu ethos.

"Hindutva is a binding force. All those who believe themselves to be Hindus are Hindus. So are those whose ancestors happened to be Hindus," said Mr Bhagwat, whose similar remarks in the past had triggered controversy.

RSS' mission is to regain the lost glory of the country, which was the "Vishwaguru" (world teacher) in the ancient times.

"To build a nation so great requires a conducive social atmosphere, which the Sangh seeks to create. Our volunteers spend just an hour at the shakhas. The remaining 23 hours of the day are spent rendering selfless social service without accepting a paisa of government aid," Mr Bhagwat said.

The swayamsevaks are seen in action whenever there is any calamity, natural or otherwise. "We do not want anything in return, not even adulation", he said.

The RSS, he said, came into being because society at large did not seem to be conscious enough of its responsibilities.

"If all people take to selfless service then there will be no need for people to wear our badge. Every citizen will deemed to be a swayamsevak in his own right," Mr Bhagwat added.

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New Delhi, India – Saima Saleem, 27, has been waiting for hours on a bench outside a court of law in New Delhi, her eyes glued to a corridor as she waits for her father, Mohammad Saleem Khan, to appear.

Khan, 49, was arrested three years ago for rioting and murder during the religious riots in the Indian capital, in which 53 people – most of them Muslims – were killed. The courts provided him bail in both the cases.

But Khan continues to languish in jail as he has not been able to secure bail in a case under the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA), a controversial anti-terror law that has been used against Khan and several other Muslims accused of allegedly “pre-planning” the riots.

“My father is innocent. He was a prominent social worker in the community who helped people and he was targeted for that,” Saima told Al Jazeera while waiting for her father to arrive at the Karkardooma court.

“People now treat us like terrorists even though everyone knows all these charges are politically and communally motivated,” she said.

UAPA, termed by critics and rights groups as a draconian legislation, was amended in 2019 by the right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government to allow authorities to declare an individual a “terrorist” and detain them without trial for months, sometimes years. Previously, the “terrorist” tag was reserved only for groups or organisations.

The government last year informed the parliament that nearly 4,700 people were arrested under the law between 2018 and 2020, but only 149 were found guilty – a conviction rate of nearly 3 percent.

Police booked at least 18 Muslims, including student leaders and activists such as Khalid Saifi, Umar Khalid and Miran Haider, under the UAPA, alleging a “larger conspiracy” to create religious tensions – a claim rubbished by legal and rights experts.

“The reason why these people are still in jail in spite of charges being dismissed on so many grounds is that they have been booked under a draconian law like UAPA which calls itself an anti-terror law but has always been used to suppress dissent,” rights activist Kavita Krishnan told Al Jazeera.

“Under this law, it is difficult to get bail so the police just need to charge people under UAPA and delay the trial by saying that they are investigating and so you are likely to remain in prison for many years,” she said.

Saleem’s allegation that the police investigation into the Delhi riots is being conducted on religious lines is not an isolated voice.

Critics and several international rights groups have accused the Indian authorities of framing members of the Muslim community for instigating the violence, which erupted after right-wing Hindu groups targeted peaceful sit-in protests against a recently-introduced citizenship law.

The Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) allowed non-Muslims from India’s neighbouring countries to secure Indian citizenship if they arrived in India before December 2014. Critics said the law violated India’s secular constitution and the United Nations experts called it “fundamentally discriminatory”.

The passage of the law triggered unprecedented protests by India’s Muslims, with a mainly women-led sit-in at New Delhi’s Shaheen Bagh being the epicentre. Meanwhile, several BJP leaders made inflammatory speeches – even threatening violence – and called to forcefully disperse the protesters.

The riots that followed – which many government critics termed as an anti-Muslim pogrom – led to the widespread destruction of property and displacement of thousands of people, mostly Muslims, in the northeastern part of the Indian capital. Mosques, homes and businesses were burned and looted.

“The people who actually gave hate speeches and instigated the riots, that include BJP leaders, are still free. They have not spent a single day in prison. Those imprisoned are Muslims who were involved in peaceful sit-ins against a law which threatened to disenfranchise them,” activist Krishnan told Al Jazeera.

Al Jazeera reached out to a senior BJP spokesman in New Delhi, but he refused to comment on the story.

In a report on the Delhi riots, the United States-based Human Rights Watch said last year the police investigations into the violence were “marked by bias, delays, inaccuracy, lack of proper evidence, and failure to follow proper procedures”.

Moreover, the Delhi Police, controlled by the federal government, were also accused of inaction and selective targeting of Muslims during the violence. In one glaring instance, police officers were seen throwing stones towards Muslims along with the Hindu mobs during the riots.

“The police were leading the mobs in throwing stones at Muslims and also vandalising properties,” Muslim activist Aasif Mujtaba, who has worked on the rehabilitation of the survivors of the riots, told Al Jazeera. “During the violence, police were at the back protecting the rioters who were rampaging at the front.”

Many rioters confessed to the media that the police helped them attack Muslims during the violence. “We did not have enough stones here, so the police brought some and told us to throw them,” a man told BBC in a recent documentary on the aftermath of the violence.

When asked about the allegations, Suman Nalwa, deputy commissioner of police for public relations in New Delhi, told Al Jazeera, “I can’t comment on the issue. Everything is in public domain. You can check the news reports.”

But the courts have also termed police investigations in many Delhi violence cases as “farcical” and “callous”. In September 2021, a Delhi court released Muslim men in a case of rioting for lack of evidence and “failure of the investigating authorities to conduct a proper investigation”. A month later, the judge who gave the verdict was transferred for unreported reasons.

Syed Tasneef Hussain, 58, is unsure when his 30-year-old daughter Gulfishan Fatima would be out of prison. Following the Delhi riots, Fatima was charged with multiple allegations, including rioting, murder and inciting communal violence.

However, her parents say she was targeted for leading a peaceful women-led protest against the CAA in Jaffarabad, a mainly Muslim neighbourhood in northeast Delhi.

“It has been three years since she has not been home. I wish she is back soon,” Hussain told Al Jazeera at his residence. “They [government] want us to be silent and devoid of any voice. We are being harassed and intimidated for no reason. What is our mistake? That we are Muslims?”

Like Khan, Fatima has also received bail in multiple cases but continues to be in jail under the UAPA. Activists say protesters such as Fatima and Khan are being punished for merely opposing the government’s policies.

“We have very fine young people in prisons under UAPA for years without their trials beginning. People who clearly instigated the hate despite our intervention in the highest courts of the land haven’t been arrested. On the other hand, they created flimsy charges against people who were prominent in the anti-CAA protests,” prominent rights activist Harsh Mander told Al Jazeera.

MR Shamshad, a lawyer in India’s Supreme Court who has taken up several Delhi riots cases, said many people were charged without evidence.

“To initiate criminal trials, you need substantive evidence but in most of these cases those substantive evidences are missing,” he told Al Jazeera.

Shamshad said the UAPA is a “draconian law which should be applied sparingly in very exceptional circumstances”. “But it appears that in Delhi riots cases, it has been unreasonably imposed upon many people,” he added.

Al Jazeera

 

[PakLFC]

I agree Indian Muslim's are very happy. This is if they agree to stop eating beef and meat! If they all become hardcore vegetarians!. If they support the RSS out rightly! If Muslim men stop marrying Hindu ladies but allow Hindu men to marry Muslim girls!. If they become self hating Muslim's insisting that Islam was born in India! If they celebrate the bulldozing of Muslim homes and Mosques agreeing that they were all originally Hindu temple's! If they hate Pakistan as much as possible insisting our country must reunite with them under a RSS type Hindu fascist government, permanently!. With the the holy month coming up their Muslim's must insist that Ramzan is not an important part of Islam!. If they agree that indeed "love jihad" is true as well. If their ladies stop observing the hijab or veil!!. If they agree that they were all forced in to Islam at a time when they were not even born! They must all follow a Hindu and apologetic version of Islam!

Have I missed out any condition these "happy Muslims" must follow!?

 

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Waqf board unhappy as Karnataka moves Muslims to EWS, demands restoration of 4% reservation

A day after the BJP-led Karnataka government scrapped the 4 per cent reservation being given to the Muslim community of the state, the Waqf board on Saturday expressed displeasure over the decision.

The board has demanded the restoration of the reservation in the 2B category and claimed that the latest move by the government was an attempt to polarise votes in the poll-bound state.

"We have no hopes from the BJP government. We demand the four per cent reservation under the 2B category be brought back. They are trying to polarise votes by doing this. We have no objections to the reservations for other castes. We are unhappy with what is done to the Muslims," said a board member.

"Under the 2B, it (reservation) was exclusively for us. Now, we have to compete with all the other stronger communities like Brahman, Vyasas, Jain, etc. We want the 2B reservation back," said the member.

He said that the board would be submitting a memorandum to the governor. He also said that Waqf would hit the streets and raise the issue in front of the state's legislative building.

The Karnataka government on Friday decided to scrap the 4 per cent OBC reservation for Muslims. The community was moved to the 10 per cent Economically Weaker Section (EWS) category.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/Indi...p&cvid=d52f7e508f9e45aab807e7ff37a58d47&ei=27

 

[pillionrider]

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Yeah, just one of many desperate things the BJP have been up to with elections looming. Their corrupt 40% government built on stealing MLAs through corruption and intimidation is looking shaky for re-election.

Some other stunts they recently pulled that I can quickly recall - Pushing a fake historical story about two Gowdas (dominant community) as the actual heroes that killed Tipu Sultan. It was based off a fictional play. They pushed and pushed it, until a seer told them to not spread fake news and do some research first. That ended that.

The next outrageous move was inducting actual rowdies - they are called rowdy sheeters here into the party to muscle their way through the elections.

Here's one of them welcoming a more sophisticated one