Los Angeles wildfire and the celebrations by Muslims; No wonder why Islamophobia exists

[emranabbas]

Words and actions are different.

On these very forum topics about India/Hindutva/Modi etc have thousands of posts and topics about Pakistan economy or corruption or state of affairs in Pakistan which actually mean something to the people of these forums have less than 100 posts.

So you guys do care more about us than you say.

It’s not as if we sit around discussing Hindutva with our fellow Muslims and Pakistanis over tea it’s simply not a topic of focus for us.
Yes it gets spoken about in this forum because many indians have joined this forum to mock and post anti pakistani/muslim.

 

[Rajdeep]

Islomophobia will exist whether those view points exist or not on social media platforms. Just like anti semetism, prejudice against Indians and hindus will continue to exist. There will always be racists and bigots that will attack minority groups. When you have a population so big and diverse, the role of individuals in establishing good relationhips with everyone is quite insignificant compared to the large scale perception of that group helped shaped by media mostly. Part of the reason why I don't like Indians is how they constantly campaign against Pakistanis and side with anyone who has a problem with them. This does hurt the reputation of the diaspora living in foreign lands.

Not sure what prejudice is there against Indians or Hindus but whatever it is , we don't cry about it. If anything we wear it as a badge of honour and laugh at the stereotype (if any).

Muslims around the world cry about bias and Islamophobia all the time. In this forum itself, we discuss about muslim bias in India etc. There are official Islamophobia month launched in UK parliament. So in a sensitive scenario like this, when world sees some muslims celebrating Los Angeles fire and have a prejudiced viewpoint on them, pls don't cry about Islamophobia. That is all OP (who is a muslim himself) is alluding to.

Anti semitism is totally different and actually exists. After WW2 world is very sensitive & sympathetic towards Jews like they are for black people for slavery.

 

[psyoptica]

Not sure what prejudice is there against Indians or Hindus but whatever it is , we don't cry about it. If anything we wear it as a badge of honour and laugh at the stereotype (if any).

Muslims around the world cry about bias and Islamophobia all the time. In this forum itself, we discuss about muslim bias in India etc. There are official Islamophobia month launched in UK parliament. So in a sensitive scenario like this, when world sees some muslims celebrating Los Angeles fire and have a prejudiced viewpoint on them, pls don't cry about Islamophobia. That is all OP (who is a muslim himself) is alluding to.

Anti semitism is totally different and actually exists. After WW2 world is very sensitive & sympathetic towards Jews like they are for black people for slavery.

You must be living under a rock if you think that. Indians whine all the time and complain about being treated differently. I don't know about the UK and how Indians are preceived there but Indians don't exactly have a great image in a lot of European countries and North America. They are referred to as scammers, misogynistic, perverts among other things. 2024 was a particularly bad year for Indians and the preducie against them crescendoed. It got so bad that Indians started discriminating against their own kind and made extreme efforts to stand out and prove they were different somehow. Indians in Canada are public enemy number 1 and in US they are being targeted as well because of the H1B visa issues. Those are the facts whether or not you accept them it doesn't change anything. Indians have been on the receiving end of the racism which I don't agree with. There's a whole thread on PP about it.

 

[Major]

Not sure what prejudice is there against Indians or Hindus but whatever it is , we don't cry about it. If anything we wear it as a badge of honour and laugh at the stereotype (if any).

Muslims around the world cry about bias and Islamophobia all the time. In this forum itself, we discuss about muslim bias in India etc. There are official Islamophobia month launched in UK parliament. So in a sensitive scenario like this, when world sees some muslims celebrating Los Angeles fire and have a prejudiced viewpoint on them, pls don't cry about Islamophobia. That is all OP (who is a muslim himself) is alluding to.

Anti semitism is totally different and actually exists. After WW2 world is very sensitive & sympathetic towards Jews like they are for black people for slavery.

Antisemitism existed because Jews were no different than Muslims. Living in foreign countries and hating on them.

My point is, if muslims, whether living in Pakistan or USA, will resort to this behavior, than they will get targetted by others. Right now Muslims use Islamaphobia claiming that people target them becuase they hate Islam, when infact people target Muslims because of the way Muslims behave. Yes they generalize it, and genralizing happens in all religions because no one knows the actual teachings of another persons religion.

There are god and bad jews, but in Pakistan Yahoodi is a word that we use as a swear word. And if a Jew is involved in something unethical, we blame its religion. Its the same for everyone

 

[Varun]

Antisemitism existed because Jews were no different than Muslims. Living in foreign countries and hating on them.

Which foreign countries? I thought Jews did not have a country of their own before Israel (1947).

 

[Bhaijaan]

Antisemitism existed because Jews were no different than Muslims. Living in foreign countries and hating on them.

I respectfully disagree with you there. Antisemitism existed mostly because of the historic resentment against Jews propagated by the Church for being Christ killers as per them and a general envy for the disproportionate success of their community wrt Christians. Modern day Christians try to portray themselves as liberal folk compared to Muslims but historically speaking both the Abrahamic religions have been extremely conservative, violent and have done countless crimes against indegenous communities in foreign lands.

What you are seeing from Israel is built up anger of centuries of persecution simply for being the most educated, hard working, wealth generating community yet finding itself fighting an existential battle.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Antisemitism existed because Jews were no different than Muslims. Living in foreign countries and hating on them.

Nail. Head. Hammer.

Truer words haven't been spoken.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Would be interesting to see if there was a wildfire in Brampton, would posters like @Rajdeep or @Bhaijaan show sympathy or will they be “celebrating”?

 

[Rajdeep]

Would be interesting to see if there was a wildfire in Brampton, would posters like @Rajdeep or @Bhaijaan show sympathy or will they be “celebrating”?

I love my Pakistani brothers as long as they aren't against Bumrah. So if there is wildfire in Brampton, my heart will go out.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

I love my Pakistani brothers as long as they aren't against Bumrah. So if there is wildfire in Brampton, my heart will go out.

Not many Pakistani’s in Brampton, I was talking about the Khalistani’s that spew hate towards India.

If a pro-Khali who said, “Hindu homes should be burned down in India”, would your heart go out for him if he lost his home to a wildfire?

 

[Rajdeep]

Not many Pakistani’s in Brampton, I was talking about the Khalistani’s that spew hate towards India.

If a pro-Khali who said, “Hindu homes should be burned down in India”, would your heart go out for him if he lost his home to a wildfire?

There is nothing called Khalistani. It had died with Bhinderwala in Golden Temple Amritsar way back in 1983. What you hear in leftist media is propaganda. In reality Khalistanis doesn't exists. Every Sikh loves India and will never want Hindu homes burned down back home. So your question is baseless.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

There is nothing called Khalistani. It had died with Bhinderwala in Golden Temple Amritsar way back in 1983. What you hear in leftist media is propaganda. In reality Khalistanis doesn't exists. Every Sikh loves India and will never want Hindu homes burned down back home. So your question is baseless.

Why does Canada wants to protect and harbours Khalistani militants is beyond me. I can understand Pakistan sheltering terrorists but why would a first world country like Canada? I am sure local people of Canda also don't agree with these dross militants living in their country and protected by their govt.

India has all the right to eliminate suspects that threatens its country. This Pannu guy threatened to blow air India last year on world cup final day.

Who is Canada harbouring?

 

[Major]

Which foreign countries? I thought Jews did not have a country of their own before Israel (1947).

europe. Anti semitism existed alot there and jews were hated cause they were no different than how muslims are today

 

[Major]

I respectfully disagree with you there. Antisemitism existed mostly because of the historic resentment against Jews propagated by the Church for being Christ killers as per them and a general envy for the disproportionate success of their community wrt Christians. Modern day Christians try to portray themselves as liberal folk compared to Muslims but historically speaking both the Abrahamic religions have been extremely conservative, violent and have done countless crimes against indegenous communities in foreign lands.

What you are seeing from Israel is built up anger of centuries of persecution simply for being the most educated, hard working, wealth generating community yet finding itself fighting an existential battle.

bro you might be right. I dont know in that much detail, but one thing is that Jews were just like Muslims today. Speaking against the country they lived in.

Germany under hitler blamed the WW1 to them, as they claimed that this group did not fund the war effort or alot of them did not participate in it

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Thread has been totally ruined by indulging Major's new thread and incorporating it into the title. There was already a thread about Muslims being responsible for Islamophobia, should have been merged into that one if we wanted to examine a weird perspective of judging communities by social media trolls.

 

[KingKhanWC]

bro you might be right. I dont know in that much detail, but one thing is that Jews were just like Muslims today. Speaking against the country they lived in.

Germany under hitler blamed the WW1 to them, as they claimed that this group did not fund the war effort or alot of them did not participate in it

Did Jews celebrate a bonfire or any fire? How were they the same as what you claim Muslims are today?

Btw are you a Muslim? If so how do you exclude yourself from your stereotypes?

 

[Major]

Did Jews celebrate a bonfire or any fire? How were they the same as what you claim Muslims are today?

Btw are you a Muslim? If so how do you exclude yourself from your stereotypes?

Im discussing about how antisemitism started and how it resonates with how Islamphobia is starting or has started

Offcourse I am a Muslim, but i introspect.

 

[RexRex]

Thread has been totally ruined by indulging Major's new thread and incorporating it into the title. There was already a thread about Muslims being responsible for Islamophobia, should have been merged into that one if we wanted to examine a weird perspective of judging communities by social media trolls.

Major is a man with a conscience. You must salute him as he is unafraid to call out the shortcomings of your community.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Im discussing about how antisemitism started and how it resonates with how Islamphobia is starting or has started

Offcourse I am a Muslim, but i introspect.

So you're a good Muslim who is not like every other?

Islamaphobia started and continues as western nations are looting the place and destroying nations for Israel, its to demonise.

Antisemitism in modern times started after WW1 when Germans realised SOME Jews sold their country out and helped outsiders defeat it in war.

But hatred for Jews has been around since day the days of Jesus. Christians used to butcher any Jew they saw, man woman or child. For over a 1000 years Muslims protected Jews.

Pls read some basic history , instead of watching repeats of Misbhas forward defence.

 

[psyoptica]

Major is a man with a conscience. You must salute him as he is unafraid to call out the shortcomings of your community.

Lol Muslims are as much a community as christians are a community. Do you blame christiany if a wrongful act is done by a white dude? There are many cases of Filicide reported in America and those people are typically christians. Do you blame christians as a group for the shortcomings of a few individuals? Need I mention the horrors Hindus are involved in foreign countries?

 

[Varun]

Lol Muslims are as much a community as christians are a community. Do you blame christiany if a wrongful act is done by a white dude? There are many cases of Filicide reported in America and those people are typically christians. Do you blame christians as a group for the shortcomings of a few individuals? Need I mention the horrors Hindus are involved in foreign countries?

I would argue Muslims are more of a community than Christians, for the following reasons:

1. We are constantly told that there are 1.x billion Muslims who are all brothers and sisters. Few Christians have stated their number.

2. Muslims are more personally invested in their happenings around the world than Christians are. For example, Pakistanis worry about their perception when a random North African guy stages an attack in Paris. Such doesn't happen with Christians.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Major is a man with a conscience. You must salute him as he is unafraid to call out the shortcomings of your community.

No, he hates his country and wanted to leave and has been open about this from day one of posting here. Nothing wrong with this either, but you have to accept his views bearing this in mind. Most Pakistanis are very self critical, although they rarely take personal responsibility, most blame it on their govts or politicians.

 

[psyoptica]

I would argue Muslims are more of a community than Christians, for the following reasons:

1. We are constantly told that there are 1.x billion Muslims who are all brothers and sisters. Few Christians have stated their number.

2. Muslims are more personally invested in their happenings around the world than Christians are. For example, Pakistanis worry about their perception when a random North African guy stages an attack in Paris. Such doesn't happen with Christians.

Well Muslims have more affinity to their religion and there is an emotional component but Muslims as a whole are not one in the same. The message of Islam is brotherhood and no discrimination between people of all colours but in practice, culture dominates the thinking of people regardless of what religion they belong to. Case in point, you have Muslims in America that look like Muhammad Ali and Malcom X and you have Muslims in the ME that look like Daesh and Al Qaeda.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Did Jews celebrate a bonfire or any fire? How were they the same as what you claim Muslims are today?

Btw are you a Muslim? If so how do you exclude yourself from your stereotypes?

Obviously there is no correlation here, but in our community a girl came across someone who was working here after recently coming across as a student initially. He was looking for a rishta and during their discussions he let on that he was a paid informer on the side, probably helped him get his visa. He described himself as a Muslim but that was because he wanted a Muslim wife.

 

[Technics 1210]

bro you might be right. I dont know in that much detail, but one thing is that Jews were just like Muslims today. Speaking against the country they lived in.

Germany under hitler blamed the WW1 to them, as they claimed that this group did not fund the war effort or alot of them did not participate in it

You need to read up on history.

Jews are NOTHING like Muslims today. Jews were expelled from countries over 1000 times in their existence, including their homeland, Israel.

And it is also BS that Hitler blamed WW1 on Jews because of funding, but he did blame Zionists for the loss of German land after the treaty of Versailles and wanted to avoid a Bolshevik revolution-esq repeat in Germany, when he was in power, the rest is history.

You have shot yourself in the foot with this thread. Out of millions of social posts on the LA fires, you plucked a handful and decided to paint Islam with a single brush with your cheap stunt, but convientily ignored what the likes of how James Wood celebrate the genocide Gaza.

Go troll on Indian forums.

 

[Major]

You need to read up on history.

Jews are NOTHING like Muslims today. Jews were expelled from countries over 1000 times in their existence, including their homeland, Israel.

And it is also BS that Hitler blamed WW1 on Jews because of funding, but he did blame Zionists for the loss of German land after the treaty of Versailles and wanted to avoid a Bolshevik revolution-esq repeat in Germany, when he was in power, the rest is history.

You have shot yourself in the foot with this thread. Out of millions of social posts on the LA fires, you plucked a handful and decided to paint Islam with a single brush with your cheap stunt, but convientily ignored what the likes of how James Wood celebrate the genocide Gaza.

Go troll on Indian forums.

If you dont agree with a post, no need to go around telling others to troll etc.

Thing is how Muslims have behaved is a fact. Now whether you dont like it that i posted or shown a picture of how muslims are behaving I could care less.

Again, you cant condemn a wrong and just concern about other things

 

[Technics 1210]

If you dont agree with a post, no need to go around telling others to troll etc.

Thing is how Muslims have behaved is a fact. Now whether you dont like it that i posted or shown a picture of how muslims are behaving I could care less.

Again, you cant condemn a wrong and just concern about other things

I was not disagreeing, I was correcting your ignorance.

Why is my condemnation of a couple of social media posts so important to you? Do I live rent free in your mind or something?

 

[Rana]

Go troll on Indian forums.

@topspin

 

[JaDed]

People are political ,always have been it’s just more visible due to social media and their urge to share their opinion.

Best way is to not give into stereotypes for racism, comedy is ok, every religion and community has issues , some communities are obviously better.

 

[JaDed]

Few People always celebrate downfall of others, even if Americans officially didn’t celebrate fall of Soviet , Most Americans are smug about it, Germans,Koreans,Japanese are smug about their community being scientific and ridicule Americans.

Middle East- South Asian mostly care about religion or culture or some random king of the past to make a point and ridicule westerners.

I think end of the day we definitely do think our communities have issues and maybe I don’t share my opinion with Pakistanis but i do with my friends and partner.

 

[JaDed]

The OP turning a couple of social media posts from some dumb idiots into a wider issue tells you about his level of intellect. Let me start new thread on a non-issue everytime I see someone posts a stupid comment on facebook. Let's see how that goes.

There are similar threads on Indian views based on twitter, including Canadian racisim.

 

[psyoptica]

There are similar threads on Indian views based on twitter, including Canadian racisim.

Lol those racist views are not due to twitter comments. There are strong reasons behind it such as abusing food banks, playing loud music everywhere, celebrating cultural events and causing nuisance for the general public, taking jobs away during an economic crunch, defecating in public places etc. Indians are despised more by other immigrants than by the local population.

 

[topspin]

So you're a good Muslim who is not like every other?

Islamaphobia started and continues as western nations are looting the place and destroying nations for Israel, its to demonise.

Antisemitism in modern times started after WW1 when Germans realised SOME Jews sold their country out and helped outsiders defeat it in war.

But hatred for Jews has been around since day the days of Jesus. Christians used to butcher any Jew they saw, man woman or child. For over a 1000 years Muslims protected Jews.

Pls read some basic history , instead of watching repeats of Misbhas forward defence.

BOOM

 

[psyoptica]

If PP was a classroom, OP would be bottom of the class. By his own admission he struggled academically and you can see why. It's not just on this thread, it's on timepass and on the cricket forum for everyone to see. Allowing threads like these merely lowers the quality of this forum.

It's okay. OP is just as much part of this forum as you and I are. I'm more concerned how Indians have latched on to this opportunity to once again demonize muslims and turned it into a debate that has everybody lost in a circus.

 

[Major]

I was not disagreeing, I was correcting your ignorance.

Why is my condemnation of a couple of social media posts so important to you? Do I live rent free in your mind or something?

because you cant condemn. The issue with many of you is that why the Indians got a chance to score points on US. Thats where priorities lie


Dont worry you are not as important as you might think you are to live in someones head rent free.

 

[Rana]

i would advice you to stay at the cricket section.

Why? Is my minority voice not welcome here?

 

[Major]

It's okay. OP is just as much part of this forum as you and I are. I'm more concerned how Indians have latched on to this opportunity to once again demonize muslims and turned it into a debate that has everybody lost in a circus.

There you go

As i said earlier, the issue for many poster here was that Indian posters will have points to score against them which is why they cant condemn this act.

First same poster said bring proof, when proof was boought now social media posts dont count.

 

[JaDed]

Lol those racist views are not due to twitter comments. There are strong reasons behind it such as abusing food banks, playing loud music everywhere, celebrating cultural events and causing nuisance for the general public, taking jobs away during an economic crunch, defecating in public places etc. Indians are despised more by other immigrants than by the local population.

Yeah sure .. should I use the same criteria for British Pakistanis?

 

[psyoptica]

Yeah sure .. should I use the same criteria for British Pakistanis?

Isn't that what you all have been doing here?

 

[JaDed]

Some of the Western Pakistanis that don’t want to be judged but at same time don’t think twice about Judging Indians , atleast try not to be a hypocrite.

 

[JaDed]

Isn't that what you all have been doing here?

Not every Indian, but if you are among those same keyboard warrior Indians than congratulations to be their Pakistani counterpart.

 

[psyoptica]

Not every Indian, but if you are among those same keyboard warrior Indians than congratulations to be their Pakistani counterpart.

I know you are not among them and a few others who come across as reasonable. But the majority of them seem to have an agenda against Pakistanis and seem to recycle the same old rhetoric. Pakistanis do the same but this is a Pakistani forum that seems to be overrun by Indians. I bet you if there were no Indians on this forum, Indians wouldn't be discussed as often as you see now.

 

[sweep_shot]

I know you are not among them and a few others who come across as reasonable. But the majority of them seem to have an agenda against Pakistanis and seem to recycle the same old rhetoric. Pakistanis do the same but this is a Pakistani forum that seems to be overrun by Indians. I bet you if there were no Indians on this forum, Indians wouldn't be discussed as often as you see now.

They definitely seem quite entitled.

It is like me going to someone's house, insulting him, and expecting him to treat me well.

 

[uppercut]

For over a 1000 years Muslims protected Jews.

So if you claim that the Jews were protected by Muslims for 1000 years why is the Jewish population negligible today in the entire middle east and north africa ?

Also any thoughts on why the Parsis fled Iran and took shelter in India 1000 years ago and have not just survived but thrived in the evil Hindu country ?

 

[uppercut]

They definitely seem quite entitled.

It is like me going to someone's house, insulting him, and expecting him to treat me well.

Well you should know all about that topic in actual real life considering that you live in a Western country and yet spew hate towards them ... right ?

ohh wait perhaps you are just following your religion ehh ?

 

[RexRex]

Lol those racist views are not due to twitter comments. There are strong reasons behind it such as abusing food banks, playing loud music everywhere, celebrating cultural events and causing nuisance for the general public, taking jobs away during an economic crunch, defecating in public places etc. Indians are despised more by other immigrants than by the local population.

^ According to psyoptica, pakistani immigrants are innocent victims of social media trolls whereas indian immigrants actually deserve racism, there are strong reasons ... sure buddy

 

[Major]

^ According to psyoptica, pakistani immigrants are innocent victims of social media trolls whereas indian immigrants actually deserve racism, there are strong reasons ... sure buddy

You see how flawed their logic becomes as soon as the shoe is on the other foot.

Its ok to say anything on social media, and it wont reflect what people actually say in real life according to him.

 

[psyoptica]

^ According to psyoptica, pakistani immigrants are innocent victims of social media trolls whereas indian immigrants actually deserve racism, there are strong reasons ... sure buddy

You can come to whatever conclusion you like in your brain and I’m not going to remark on
Indians make a significant number of the immigrant population here. The issues I mentioned above result from high immigration. They are not small issues. I have never ever heard someone criticize Pakistanis for hating the American or Canadian. It’s a made up thing is being made into a wider issue that according the very brilliant OP we should all be concerned about.

 

[psyoptica]

You can come to whatever conclusion you like in your brain and I’m not going to remark on
Indians make a significant number of the immigrant population here. The issues I mentioned above result from high immigration. They are not small issues. I have never ever heard someone criticize Pakistanis for hating the American or Canadian. It’s a made up thing is being made into a wider issue that according the very brilliant OP we should all be concerned about.

Additionally, Canada historically has been a very immigrant friendly country with the least amount of racism. Indians must have done something to turn a significant Canadian population into anti migrants. You can get the general sense of that by talking to people and getting their views on immigration. Everyone blames indian migrants for the societal issues and Trudeau for allowing it to happen. Even my American counterparts share similar sentiments as the Canadian. The cultural impact due to Indians is quite significant in these country.

 

[psyoptica]

You see how flawed their logic becomes as soon as the shoe is on the other foot.

Its ok to say anything on social media, and it wont reflect what people actually say in real life according to him.

Who is “they”?

 

[Vikram1989]

If I could save him without injuring myself I would.
But after saving him I would give a tight slap and tell him that this is what being a human is all about, not condoning or even celebrating the killing of innocents people (men, women and children).

Time to say "u owe ur life to
Whom u despise and live a meaningful life atleast now"

 

[HalBass9]

Indians seem determined to defend their bigots, holding onto the hope that Pakistanis will openly support a few Muslims celebrating the fire in LA.

Meanwhile, many Muslims have drawn comparisons between the destruction in LA and the destruction in Gaza, highlighting the stark disparity between the minimal efforts made to save lives and the extensive resources allocated to taking thousands.

The Biden administration is giving $770 to each person affected by the LA fire while sending $30 billion to Israel last year. Don’t mix up American Muslims criticizing this with them celebrating it.

Muslims shape their own narrative, not Hindutva Indians or anyone projecting their frustrations onto the broader Muslim community. Those who do control the narrative have not only criticized the LA governor, mayor, and federal government but have also expressed solidarity with everyone affected in LA and Gaza.

After 11 years and electing Modi, it’s time Indians learned to defend their bigotry without resorting to ‘what about your bigots.’ No Muslim on this forum is defending Muslim bigots, in fact, most are actively working to prevent Hindutva or other bigots from shaping the narrative about Muslims.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Stay on topic please

 

[Farhan The Man]

No Muslim on this forum is defending Muslim bigots,

Plenty of support for mandatory hijab policy in islamic iran, blasphemy law in islamic pakistan, taliban in islamic afghanistan, hamas et al.

Have a dose of reality. Please.

 

[HalBass9]

Plenty of support for mandatory hijab policy in islamic iran, blasphemy law in islamic pakistan, taliban in islamic afghanistan, hamas et al.

Have a dose of reality. Please.

For Muslims.

 

[Farhan The Man]

For Muslims.

You asked for it. Defend this bigotry, which is baked into eternity.

This is what draws your greatest ire for usa. Your helplessness in this scenario is palpable.

prophet said: “The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him."

 

[Major]

For Muslims.

and that their is the issue

 

[HalBass9]

[/QUOTE]

and that their is the issue

It is if you look at things in a vacuum.

 

[HalBass9]

You asked for it. Defend this bigotry, which is baked into eternity.

This is what draws your greatest ire for usa. Your helplessness in this scenario is palpable.

prophet said: “The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him."

Okay.

Currently polish Z boys are committing the genocide so until then we can bookmark this thread?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I know you are not among them and a few others who come across as reasonable. But the majority of them seem to have an agenda against Pakistanis and seem to recycle the same old rhetoric. Pakistanis do the same but this is a Pakistani forum that seems to be overrun by Indians. I bet you if there were no Indians on this forum, Indians wouldn't be discussed as often as you see now.

I have said this many times in the past. The Asian Grooming thread being infested with Indians looking to demonise Pakistanis without thinking things through is a testament to this. If this is going to happen, then why complain when shown the mirror in other threads? Then they get upset at British Pakistanis who speak to them in the same language. It's bizarre.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You asked for it. Defend this bigotry, which is baked into eternity.

This is what draws your greatest ire for usa. Your helplessness in this scenario is palpable.

prophet said: “The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him."

There is similar shocking text in the Torah, Bible, Hindu scriptures etc. I doubt anyone is plucking obscure ancient lines and using them as justification of slaughter other than you.

 

[KingKhanWC]

So if you claim that the Jews were protected by Muslims for 1000 years why is the Jewish population negligible today in the entire middle east and north africa ?

Also any thoughts on why the Parsis fled Iran and took shelter in India 1000 years ago and have not just survived but thrived in the evil Hindu country ?

Its not a claim, its documented history.

Jews started to move out after the Zionist movement was given an illegitimate birth. After 47, many left for Israel and other parts. After the Nakbah, there was hatred for Zionist Jews but not all Jews, hence many still reside in Muslim nations.

I dont care too much about India, its a mix of all sorts of weird beliefs and traditions. Start a new thread to discuss its history.

 

[RexRex]

You can come to whatever conclusion you like in your brain and I’m not going to remark on
Indians make a significant number of the immigrant population here. The issues I mentioned above result from high immigration. They are not small issues. I have never ever heard someone criticize Pakistanis for hating the American or Canadian. It’s a made up thing is being made into a wider issue that according the very brilliant OP we should all be concerned about.

Regarding the scams perpetrated by some Indian immigrants in Canada like foodbanks etc., there's no denying that .. but a lot of them involve Pakistanis too. It's just that Pakistanis don't have a separate identity so to speak, they are subsumed into the larger Indian immigrant category. Many of these complainers in Canada can't tell Indian and Pak immigrants apart.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Okay.

Currently polish Z boys are committing the genocide so until then we can bookmark this thread?

Cut the histrionics please.

You enquired of a "muslim" that defends bigotry.

Yet here you are standing your ground on a religious call for murdering of jews by muslims.

 

[Farhan The Man]

There is similar shocking text in the Torah, Bible, Hindu scriptures etc.

Whataboutery.

Nevertheless, let's hear of those murderous calls in other edicts.

List them.

 

[HalBass9]

Cut the histrionics please.

You enquired of a "muslim" that defends bigotry.

Yet here you are standing your ground on a religious call for murdering of jews by muslims.

No! I’m not, but you were hoping that I was.

The elected PM of the Z state was recently charged with war crimes by the ICC, me highlighting the genocide by the Polish occupier is the fact that you want to dismiss because it does not fit your preconceived agenda.

It is you who can not ‘cut the histrionics’ as I am going by with the current facts.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Whataboutery.

Nevertheless, let's hear of those murderous calls in other edicts.

List them.

Why? What has it got to do with the thread topic? I could start new threads on all of them but I am not here on an agenda like you. Check the OP by the way, you might have forgotten it was about fires in California not religious texts.

 

[HalBass9]

Plenty of support for mandatory hijab policy in islamic iran, blasphemy law in islamic pakistan, taliban in islamic afghanistan, hamas et al.

Have a dose of reality. Please.

Anti Muslim hate is honestly one of the dumbest things out there. People who push it try to act all smart and educated, but their hate and bias are pretty obvious. It’s even more cringe when non Muslims pretend to be Muslims or ex Muslims just to push their agenda.

Mandatory hijab, that’s an Iran thing, not a Muslim thing. Tons of Muslim countries, like Pakistan, don’t have that rule.

Blasphemy laws, that’s mostly a Pakistan problem, leftover from British colonial times. Most other Muslim countries don’t even have those.

The Taliban, they’re an Afghanistan issue. The rest of the Muslim world doesn’t live like that.

Hindutva, that’s India’s deal, not all Hindus everywhere.

France banning hijabs, that’s a France problem, not something you see in the US, UK, or Canada or Christianity.

H boys, I’m going to borrow Dan Bilzerian’s comment from the Pierce Morgan interview, 'It’s like someone keeps raping the mother and abusing the child, but all you focus on is when that child grows up and fights back against the abuser.

Anti Muslim Islamophobes are so desperate to label all Muslims or at least paint them as extremists just so they can justify their own extreme hatred and bigotry against Muslims. A clear example of this can be seen in some of the earlier comments in this thread.

 

[RexRex]

Blasphemy laws, that’s mostly a Pakistan problem, leftover from British colonial times. Most other Muslim countries don’t even have those.

Most muslim countries have blasphemy law. Even if they don't, it doesn't matter .. whoever draws a cartoon will have to live in fear for the rest of his life.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Please avoid discussing Hinduism or India here