Indian players proving yet again that India is all Virat Kohli or nothing?

[Ab Fan]

We need to get rid of the deadwood after this series in our test squad after this series.If they fail -

Dhawan - out(no need to even wait this series)
Pujara-Out
Rahane(out)
Sharma(out - already done)
Karthik (out)
Vijay(out -too old,no chance of improvement)

Rahul should open with a new pick from domestics.
Same for number 3,5,6.
Pant for karthik.
Need to shake things up now.

It can't be worse than it is now.They are batting like tailenders.

Haha, lol. These guys are at peak age now(30-32) and they are performing even worst these days.

 

[PakLFC]

Kohli again is the difference maker. The rest of them are just average Test batsmen. Most Indian people are blinded in to thinking all their batsmen are world class.

 

[Dingolfy]

Kohli again is the difference maker. The rest of them are just average Test batsmen. Most Indian people are blinded in to thinking all their batsmen are world class.

They are pretty good for the current world standard which is at the lowest due to lot of LOIs on pattas.Even English players themselves cant play swing bowling and was back in the hut for 80 odd runs.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Kohli again is the difference maker. The rest of them are just average Test batsmen. Most Indian people are blinded in to thinking all their batsmen are world class.

How many wc test batsmen are there?

Kohli, Smith, AB (retired now), KW maybe.

 

[PakLFC]

How many wc test batsmen are there?

Kohli, Smith, AB (retired now), KW maybe.

Indian people seem to think all there batsmen are world class

 

[PakLFC]

They are pretty good for the current world standard which is at the lowest due to lot of LOIs on pattas.Even English players themselves cant play swing bowling and was back in the hut for 80 odd runs.

Not any better then other middle order batsmen. Excluding Kohli, the rest are only good in home conditions.

 

[Dingolfy]

Not any better then other middle order batsmen. Excluding Kohli, the rest are only good in home conditions.

That is the current standard unfortunately.How many do you think have good records outside their home condtions these days?

 

[Slim]

India team is Kohli or bust and do not deserve to be the top ranking test team. Expecting them to lose the series against England, they do not have enough quality in them.

 

[BaankeJi]

India team is Kohli or bust and do not deserve to be the top ranking test team. Expecting them to lose the series against England, they do not have enough quality in them.

Does it matter? IPL will continue to be the greatest tournament for years.

 

[Slim]

Does it matter? IPL will continue to be the greatest tournament for years.

Who cares about IPL other than Indians?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Without Kohli, undoubtedly India would have no chance of even putting up a respectable score. Not even the likes of Rahul are half as impressive as they were hyped up to be. It's a shame that Kohli's spectacular performances are actually hurting the Indian side because instead of cleaning up this mess and introducing new batsmen who are mentally tough and can play in foreign conditions, the rubbish is merely brushed under the carpets.

 

[The_Odd_One]

A team which had

Sehwag(49)
Gauti(42)
Dravid(52)
Tendulkar(53)
Laxman(46)
Ganguly(42)
Dhoni(wkt)(38)

has now gone down to:-

Vijay( Avg- 40)
Dhawan( 42)
Rahul (39)
Kohli (54)
Rahane (42)
Pandya(35)
Karthik(wkt)(27)

And the guy at bench may average 50 overall but outside Asia, he is averaging in 20s.

As per our expert [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], this is the most complete Indian team he has watched.

 

[big_gamer007]

Outside of India, indian batting unit is the weakest in the world minus the minnows.

Even Pakistan has a better batting unit than India for overseas conditions.

 

[BlackShadow]

In away matches, India is all about Kohli, Rahane and a very good bowling attack.

Emergence of Shaw, Gill or Pant seems to be the only we we can change that.

 

[gazza619]

As per our expert [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], this is the most complete Indian team he has watched.

I mean to be fair the Indian team of the 90s sometimes used to open bowling with Ganguly in tests and Sehwag used to be the 5th bowler. So for me without a shadow of doubt this Indian team is India’s best ever team.

 

[BlackShadow]

As per our expert [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], this is the most complete Indian team he has watched.

Team isn't just about batsmen. Never before has an Indian bowling attack been the world's best for a period of 36 months.

Besides, while it is true that other batsmen have struggled in SA and England so far, we must also look at how the opposition batting has fared in the same matches. In SA it was ABD second to Kohli, and here so far, it has only been Root.

 

[Abdullah719]

 

[Varun]

Sachin only played 23 tests in those countries in those years?

Now when supposedly tests are in decline, Kohli will already surpassed that number in half the time.

 

[Ab Fan]

Missed WI.

 

[Slim]

India is back in the 1990s with the one man show.

 

[Ab Fan]

As per our expert [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], this is the most complete Indian team he has watched.

If we look at batting, there is no contest between the Indian team of 2000s and this team. Bowling has improved though and Bhuvi's return will help the cause further.

India's best team was between 2007 till the 2011 WC. During that phase, they were dominant at home and defeated England and NZ away along with a drawn series against a strong SA in SA. The series in Australia 2007 was a great one as well. Yes, SA also drew in India but they were a formidable team as well and were touring very well.

 

[Titan24]

Team isn't just about batsmen. Never before has an Indian bowling attack been the world's best for a period of 36 months.

Besides, while it is true that other batsmen have struggled in SA and England so far, we must also look at how the opposition batting has fared in the same matches. In SA it was ABD second to Kohli, and here so far, it has only been Root.

Having opening bowlers averaging 35+ with the ball is not good enough to be called best in the world.

In home conditions it might be the most effective but overall its pretty mediocre.

 

[Ab Fan]

India is back in the 1990s with the one man show.

Bowling is far better.

 

[Titan24]

If we look at batting, there is no contest between the Indian team of 2000s and this team. Bowling has improved though and Bhuvi's return will help the cause further.

India's best team was between 2007 till the 2011 WC. During that phase, they were dominant at home and defeated England and NZ away along with a drawn series against a strong SA in SA. The series in Australia 2007 was a great one as well. Yes, SA also drew in India but they were a formidable team as well and were touring very well.

Bhuvi is one of the most limited bowlers around fans dont understand and hype him like next Akram but Indian team management does and that is why he only plays tests in certain conditions and warms the bench in most.

 

[Slim]

Bowling is far better.

But batting is far worse. Sachin had Dravid, Ganguly, VVS. Kohli has no one.

 

[Slim]

Bhuvi is one of the most limited bowlers around fans dont understand and hype him like next Akram but Indian team management does and that is why he only plays tests in certain conditions and warms the bench in most.

Bhuvi is a tier 2 or tier 3 bowler. Indian fans seem to forget his performances after every series for some reason. He is poor.

 

[Ab Fan]

But batting is far worse. Sachin had Dravid, Ganguly, VVS. Kohli has no one.

That was in 2000s. 90s, there was pretty much no one.

 

[Ab Fan]

Bhuvi is one of the most limited bowlers around fans dont understand and hype him like next Akram but Indian team management does and that is why he only plays tests in certain conditions and warms the bench in most.

Lol, who calls him the next Akram. There was, is and will be no one like Waz.

Bhuvi plays only in certain conditions but in those conditions, he is one of the best bowler who can produce match winning spells when required. Kohli looked like fool as a captain when he dropped Bhuvi in 2nd test in SA.

If India has to win overseas in either of England, New Zealand or South Africa, he is the first name in Indian bowling sheet.

 

[Saj]

I think there are a few Indian players who are hyped us great players and world-beaters but when the going gets tough they disappear, especially overseas.

 

[The_Odd_One]

If we look at batting, there is no contest between the Indian team of 2000s and this team. Bowling has improved though and Bhuvi's return will help the cause further.

India's best team was between 2007 till the 2011 WC. During that phase, they were dominant at home and defeated England and NZ away along with a drawn series against a strong SA in SA. The series in Australia 2007 was a great one as well. Yes, SA also drew in India but they were a formidable team as well and were touring very well.

I agree. The bowling has improved a lot. Actually, India lost all of the 3 tests in SA and England due to poor batting. Bowlers did enough in those matches. Kohli should stop making changes in the batting order. Stick with 5 batsmen and give them some breathing space.

 

[PakLFC]

That is the current standard unfortunately.How many do you think have good records outside their home condtions these days?

Difference is India and it's fans believe all their batsmen are world class. That is whay it is awesome to see them lose, woo hoooo! Cummon England take that lot to the cleaners wiping the smiles of their faces.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Sorry to say but Pakistani batsmen - despite playing in far tougher conditions - looked a million times more comfortable on the crease compared to their Indian counterparts.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Pakistani batting lineup in tests is better than indian batting lineup.
But Indian bowling lineup is better.

 

[Slim]

I think there are a few Indian players who are hyped us great players and world-beaters but when the going gets tough they disappear, especially overseas.

Thats the fun part, Saj. Indians always hype their players to the sky and end up believing their own hype. Which makes it all the more enjoyable to see them getting smashed.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Timely bump! Our Indian bowlers and the world class openers are totally not letting us miss Kohli at all. In fact they are performing much better under Rohit's captaincy.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Yet again being proved that India is all Kohli or nothing. Kohli hasn't been in the greatest of form and the rest of the team is performing abysmally. When Kohli is doing good, everyone performs brilliantly. However, when he's poor in form, the whole team performs poorly. This is especially true for Rohit Sharma who without performance and form from Kohli is an average player.

Against Pakistan, Kohli was able to save India and post a respectable total. However, as Kohli got out early today, the team struggled to even reach 100.

ONCE AGAIN PROVE - Team India is ALL Kohli or NOTHING.

 

[srh]

Kohli or bust