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Indo-Pak conflict 2025: Do you believe your own government and/or the media coverage?

Do you believe your own government and/or the media coverage?

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MenInG

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"The first casualty of war, is the truth"

Honest answers please.

Doesn't matter which side of the LOC you live on - fact is that we are being fed coverage and in the absence of any other way of confirming it, we are falling to "confirmation bias"
 
Hope your well @MenInG .

All sides use propaganda so hard to trust anything but india and Pakistan propaganda borders on comedy even in serious times such as this .

Overall india and its media make up anything, some outrageous ,.much nonsensical. Pakistan is a bit better in this regard and will admit attacks on its land .

The most worrying is esp india has indoctrinated its citizens into believing they are vastly superior and under little threat. People need to take this seriously to understand this could turn into devastation for both countries .
 
Hope your well @MenInG .

All sides use propaganda so hard to trust anything but india and Pakistan propaganda borders on comedy even in serious times such as this .

Overall india and its media make up anything, some outrageous ,.much nonsensical. Pakistan is a bit better in this regard and will admit attacks on its land .

The most worrying is esp india has indoctrinated its citizens into believing they are vastly superior and under little threat. People need to take this seriously to understand this could turn into devastation for both countries .

All good - Alhamdolillah

But you do understand the Indian point of view - their citizens were attacked and killed.
 
All good - Alhamdolillah

But you do understand the Indian point of view - their citizens were attacked and killed.

Glad to hear.

Sure its understandable but their response isn't. First time we saw videos of bombs falling on mosques and civilians inside pakistan. The people of pakistan are now afraid of Indian attacks so its certain this will escalate. Both can give different propaganda but both will suffer immensely from any modern all out war . Let's pray it doesn't come to this.
 
Neutral media like CNN and TRT.

Govts and media of both country are reporting false news.

Patriotism is soo high in Pakistan right now that even the liberals are turning a blind eye to many things at the moment.

However, in the years to come, liberal media will be questioning alot of things, especially on the fac that why Masood Azhar is here.
 
dont trust anyone, wait for accounts from both sides, then make up your mind, and know that you cant be certain in anything either. its both states job to lie, a government that doesn't appreciate the impact of morale during such times in incompetent. honourably citizens also partake in the lies to avoid the made-up narrative from the enemy to become the accepted narrative.
 
Neutral media like CNN and TRT.

Govts and media of both country are reporting false news.

Patriotism is soo high in Pakistan right now that even the liberals are turning a blind eye to many things at the moment.

However, in the years to come, liberal media will be questioning alot of things, especially on the fac that why Masood Azhar is here.

CNN is neutral? Maybe when it comes to the war between Pak and Ind but they’re completely bias towards the democrats in the US.
 
dont trust anyone, wait for accounts from both sides, then make up your mind, and know that you cant be certain in anything either. its both states job to lie, a government that doesn't appreciate the impact of morale during such times in incompetent. honourably citizens also partake in the lies to avoid the made-up narrative from the enemy to become the accepted narrative.

Moral is needed but atm esp Indian side it's a made up movie script . When truth comes out , public loses trust and fear spreads , it already has as people question the information in their minds if not outwardly.
 
"The first casualty of war, is the truth"

Honest answers please.

Doesn't matter which side of the LOC you live on - fact is that we are being fed coverage and in the absence of any other way of confirming it, we are falling to "confirmation bias"
Your 1st statement is the answer pretty much.

And now with lots of folks having a cell phone and WhatsApp , it just is tedious to sift through for accurate news.

Even the CNN is biased. Probably the Associated Press AP is the best bet but again they dont have constant non stop live updates, so there is that
 
They have really gone into the deep end. I encourage everyone to watch this clip. I wonder how Indians can watch this clip and then use their media as a source. Hoping too much there too.
And this is Just one of that many. It's also a leading Chanel like Zee.
 
You asked for an honest answer, so here goes:

The fact is that Pakistan does NOT support terrorists that you call freedom fighters JUST MORALLY, but provides material (arms / weapons) support, and these people attack people in India using those weapons. This has been going on forever. These terrorists are used as a proxy war instrument by the Pakistan army.
It is an absolute shame that innocent lives are lost during the conflict, not to mention all the resources being used to sustain and conduct war with the money that could have been used for much better uses. But it is what it is.

India fully believes that any terrorist attack in Kashmir is orchestrated and materially supported by the Pakistani army. There is a lot of angst in the people against Pakistan and they have wanted a stop to this.

I believe this action is to set a deterrent that any such incitement and/or support to terrorists in the future will come at a very high cost. The isolated responses to terrorist attacks in the past have not yielded long term results, and the hope is that a stronger response to supporting terrorism will prove to be a much bigger cost for Pakistan.

Regardless, I really feel sad for loss of lives on both sides. Plus, for developing countries like Pakistan and India, a war, however short, is a huge impediment to progress.
 
You asked for an honest answer, so here goes:

The fact is that Pakistan does NOT support terrorists that you call freedom fighters JUST MORALLY, but provides material (arms / weapons) support, and these people attack people in India using those weapons. This has been going on forever. These terrorists are used as a proxy war instrument by the Pakistan army.
It is an absolute shame that innocent lives are lost during the conflict, not to mention all the resources being used to sustain and conduct war with the money that could have been used for much better uses. But it is what it is.

India fully believes that any terrorist attack in Kashmir is orchestrated and materially supported by the Pakistani army. There is a lot of angst in the people against Pakistan and they have wanted a stop to this.

I believe this action is to set a deterrent that any such incitement and/or support to terrorists in the future will come at a very high cost. The isolated responses to terrorist attacks in the past have not yielded long term results, and the hope is that a stronger response to supporting terrorism will prove to be a much bigger cost for Pakistan.

Regardless, I really feel sad for loss of lives on both sides. Plus, for developing countries like Pakistan and India, a war, however short, is a huge impediment to progress.

Charlie bhai, you forgot to mention Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan.
 
You asked for an honest answer, so here goes:

The fact is that Pakistan does NOT support terrorists that you call freedom fighters JUST MORALLY, but provides material (arms / weapons) support, and these people attack people in India using those weapons. This has been going on forever. These terrorists are used as a proxy war instrument by the Pakistan army.
It is an absolute shame that innocent lives are lost during the conflict, not to mention all the resources being used to sustain and conduct war with the money that could have been used for much better uses. But it is what it is.

India fully believes that any terrorist attack in Kashmir is orchestrated and materially supported by the Pakistani army. There is a lot of angst in the people against Pakistan and they have wanted a stop to this.

I believe this action is to set a deterrent that any such incitement and/or support to terrorists in the future will come at a very high cost. The isolated responses to terrorist attacks in the past have not yielded long term results, and the hope is that a stronger response to supporting terrorism will prove to be a much bigger cost for Pakistan.

Regardless, I really feel sad for loss of lives on both sides. Plus, for developing countries like Pakistan and India, a war, however short, is a huge impediment to progress.
Yes, the usual India is the innocent 4 year old, everyone picks on India, and India doesn't do anything to other countries. Am I right? I mean if you guys don't come clean about your own support for terrorism and stop, how can you expect others to do something different?
 
I don't trust the chest-thumping lies media is selling on both sides, but I, like most of the world am quite convinced about the nature of Pakistani state that still nurtures terrorism on its land to achieve what it's army is too scared to attempt. Terrorists remain a state asset, which is sad and dangerous even for your own people.
 
LOL... Believing Indian media is like trusting a cat to guard your fish—sounds convincing, but you know something fishy is going on
 
The same Indians that claimed to have conquered Karachi last night are telling us Pakistan was behind the Kashmir killings.

It is lie after lie after lie.

When one lie fails they jump on the next one.
 
I don't trust the chest-thumping lies media is selling on both sides, but I, like most of the world am quite convinced about the nature of Pakistani state that still nurtures terrorism on its land to achieve what it's army is too scared to attempt. Terrorists remain a state asset, which is sad and dangerous even for your own people.
That, MY FRIEND, is the American doctrine to fight the Soviet War in Afghanistan as a proxy.

And its not just in Pakistan. They have implemented this philosophy in a lot of other countries. Its more effective with Islamic radicals because of their passion for their faith. They weaponized it. Pakistan just learnt to use it and yes it has hurt them as well. But its not like India does not use it. After the soviets left, these jihadists became hired guns, sometimes Al-Qaeda, sometimes Taliban, sometimes ISIS, whoever pays and India pays them to conduct terrorism in Pakistan as well.

Out side is just pretty bad about putting on a show like India does. We are actually bigger victims of this terrorism than India. And that's not exaggeration, the data on this can easily be verified.
 
Led by Arnabs wargaming and Arya considering Pakistan as Talcum Powder which will be blown away with a phoonk. They got a big Surprise
 
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