Indo-Pak world Test XI versus West Indies XI of era of 1976-1991 - Who will win?

[Harsh Thakor]

Pitting a world West Indies test XI from era of Clive Lloyd's captaincy in 1975 to Viv Richards in 1991.



My joint India-Pakistan XI of 1970s to 1980s to play West Indies XI of that era



Sunil Gavaskar

Majid Khan

Javed Miandad

Gundappa Vishwanath

Mohinder Amarnath

Mushtaq Muhammad

Kapil Dev

Imran Khan (C)

Wasim Akram

Abdul Qadir

Wasim Bari (W)



In sub-continent conditions I would select Bishen Bedi instead of Wasim Akram of that time and Dilip Vengsarkar instead of Mohinder Amarnath.



On fast Australian tracks or some in the Carribean I would back West Indies XI.However on seaming English tops I would give Indo-Pak XI the marginal edge.On flat pancakes Indo-Pak XI would be favourites in my view.Indo-Pak XI is more talented but the Calypsos have more match winners like Viv ,Greenidge or Marshall.Indo-Pak XI has more variety in bowling,genuine allrounders unlike their counterparts and more batting depth.Still it is the Calypsos who ae more explosive in batting and bowling.





West Indies XI -1975-91

Greenidge

Haynes

Viv Richards

Kalicharan

Lloyd (C)

Lawrence Rowe

Dujon (W)

Marshall

Roberts

Garner

Holding

 

[Harsh Thakor]

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[jeetu]

India Pakistan players stats against West Indies from 1975 to 1991
Batting (min 200 runs)

Player	Span	Mat	Runs	Ave	100	50
BP Patel	1975-1976	4	285	142.5	1	1
GR Viswanath	1975-1979	12	1007	62.93	3	5
Wasim Raja	1975-1981	11	919	57.43	2	7
SM Gavaskar	1975-1983	22	1961	56.02	9	4
Saleem Malik	1986-1990	7	456	45.6	1	3
DB Vengsarkar	1976-1989	25	1596	44.33	6	7
CPS Chauhan	1978-1979	6	331	41.37	0	4
Majid Khan	1975-1981	11	821	41.05	2	4
M Amarnath	1976-1988	17	1076	38.42	3	6
Shoaib Mohammad	1988-1990	6	378	37.8	0	3
Mushtaq Mohammad	1975-1977	7	470	33.57	2	1
M Azharuddin	1987-1989	6	298	33.11	0	2
S Madan Lal	1975-1983	10	351	31.9	0	2
Javed Miandad	1977-1990	13	714	31.04	2	4
N Kapil Dev	1978-1989	25	1079	30.82	3	4
SV Manjrekar	1987-1989	5	215	30.71	1	0
RJ Shastri	1983-1989	19	847	30.25	2	2
Haroon Rasheed	1977-1977	5	300	30	0	2
Asif Iqbal	1975-1977	7	416	29.71	1	2
K Srikkanth	1987-1988	4	204	29.14	0	2
Saleem Yousuf	1986-1990	7	315	28.63	0	2
Sadiq Mohammad	1975-1981	9	456	28.5	0	2
AD Gaekwad	1975-1983	21	992	28.34	1	6
Imran Khan	1977-1990	18	775	27.67	1	3
Yashpal Sharma	1983-1983	6	247	27.44	0	2
RMH Binny	1983-1983	6	270	24.54	0	2
J Arun Lal	1987-1989	8	340	24.28	0	2
NS Sidhu	1983-1989	6	218	24.22	1	0
SMH Kirmani	1976-1983	21	469	21.31	0	1
Wasim Bari	1975-1981	9	227	20.63	0	2
Rameez Raja	1986-1990	8	300	20	0	2
KS More	1987-1989	8	234	19.5	0	1
Arshad Ayub	1987-1989	8	211	19.18	0	1
Zaheer Abbas	1975-1981	8	259	18.5	0	1
Sarfraz Nawaz	1975-1981	8	248	17.71	0	2

Bowling (min 10 wickets)

Player	Span	Mat	Wkts	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
Mohammad Nazir	1980-1981	4	16	17.68	2.31	45.7	1	0
Waqar Younis	1990-1990	3	16	18.5	3.32	33.3	2	0
Wasim Akram	1986-1990	8	38	19.18	2.8	41	2	0
Imran Khan	1977-1990	18	80	21.18	2.91	43.6	6	1
ND Hirwani	1988-1989	4	22	21.81	3.54	36.9	2	1
Iqbal Qasim	1977-1981	6	19	23	2.25	61.1	1	0
N Kapil Dev	1978-1989	25	89	24.89	2.86	52.1	4	1
KD Ghavri	1975-1979	8	34	26.58	3.42	46.5	1	0
Mushtaq Mohammad	1975-1977	7	14	28.85	2.66	64.8	1	0
B Bedi	1975-1979	9	33	30.69	2.47	74.5	1	0
Abdul Qadir	1980-1990	10	42	30.83	3.09	59.7	1	0
C Sharma	1987-1989	7	18	35.22	4.3	49.1	1	0
B Chandrasekhar	1975-1979	10	37	35.29	3.06	69	3	0
Sarfraz Nawaz	1975-1981	8	26	35.53	2.87	74.1	1	0
S Venkataraghavan	1976-1983	14	37	39.21	2.3	102.2	0	0
Arshad Ayub	1987-1989	8	20	42.55	2.59	98.3	2	0
RJ Shastri	1983-1989	19	37	43.4	2.67	97.2	0	0
Maninder Singh	1983-1987	10	14	59.71	2.49	143.5	0	0

 

[jeetu]

I'll go with
1. Gavaskar
2. Majid Khan
3. Vengsarkar
4. Viswanath
5. Amarnath
6. Wasim Raja
7. Imran
8. Kapil
9. Mushtaq Mohammad
10. Saleem Yousuf (WK)
11. Akram

I would go with attack against WI. This side has very deep batting lineup. With Mushtaq Mohammad at No 9 capable of scoring century. Even Wasim Akram at No.11 hold a bat.

No 9 can replaced with Qasim to improve spin bowling.
No10 can be replaced by Kirmani to improve WK quality.

The biggest weakness in this side is 5th bowler. This load had be shared between Amarnath and Wasim Raja.

 

[Harsh Thakor]

I'll go with
1. Gavaskar
2. Majid Khan
3. Vengsarkar
4. Viswanath
5. Amarnath
6. Wasim Raja
7. Imran
8. Kapil
9. Mushtaq Mohammad
10. Saleem Yousuf (WK)
11. Akram

I would go with attack against WI. This side has very deep batting lineup. With Mushtaq Mohammad at No 9 capable of scoring century. Even Wasim Akram at No.11 hold a bat.

No 9 can replaced with Qasim to improve spin bowling.
No10 can be replaced by Kirmani to improve WK quality.

The biggest weakness in this side is 5th bowler. This load had be shared between Amarnath and Wasim Raja.

Good team but lack of quality paceman.No Miandad?Why?

 

[Harsh Thakor]

I'll go with
1. Gavaskar
2. Majid Khan
3. Vengsarkar
4. Viswanath
5. Amarnath
6. Wasim Raja
7. Imran
8. Kapil
9. Mushtaq Mohammad
10. Saleem Yousuf (WK)
11. Akram

I would go with attack against WI. This side has very deep batting lineup. With Mushtaq Mohammad at No 9 capable of scoring century. Even Wasim Akram at No.11 hold a bat.

No 9 can replaced with Qasim to improve spin bowling.
No10 can be replaced by Kirmani to improve WK quality.

The biggest weakness in this side is 5th bowler. This load had be shared between Amarnath and Wasim Raja.

Very good choice of Wasim Raja but preferred Miandad.Otherwise great team selection

 

[jeetu]

Very good choice of Wasim Raja but preferred Miandad.Otherwise great team selection

If overall career is taken into consideration then Miandad would always feature in my Ind-Pak XI , but he massively under-performed vs WI. So no choice but to omit him out of my XI. Conversely though Wasim Raja was average player. He was on different level against WI.

 

[jeetu]

Good team but lack of quality paceman.No Miandad?Why?

Wasim Akram and Imran Khan are among Top 10 fast bowlers of all time. Kapil was world class vs West Indies. These trio should challenge West Indian batsman. A good 4th fast bowler would always going to a be issue unless Waqar Younis is picked on a technicality despite playing only 3 tests.

 

[sweep_shot]

West Indies XI should win comfortably if game is outside of subcontinent.

In subcontinent, it can go either way.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

West Indies XI should win comfortably if game is outside of subcontinent.

In subcontinent, it can go either way.

Pakistan managed to draw a series in West Indies and West Indies drew series in Pakistan.

I don't know much about their record in India but I can guess they delivered legendary phaintas to everyone everywhere (except Pakistan).

So, I'd back the Pak/Ind joint XI to at least draw outside SC whilst winning competitively in SC.

This is a very tight bowling combination:
Kapil Dev

Imran Khan (C)

Wasim Akram

Abdul Qadir

 

[tyron_woodley]

Pakistan managed to draw a series in West Indies and West Indies drew series in Pakistan.

I don't know much about their record in India but I can guess they delivered legendary phaintas to everyone everywhere (except Pakistan).

So, I'd back the Pak/Ind joint XI to at least draw outside SC whilst winning competitively in SC.

This is a very tight bowling combination:
Kapil Dev

Imran Khan (C)

Wasim Akram

Abdul Qadir

this is the truth. west Indians will get crushed by a indo pak team comfortably.

 

[Harsh Thakor]

Pakistan managed to draw a series in West Indies and West Indies drew series in Pakistan.

I don't know much about their record in India but I can guess they delivered legendary phaintas to everyone everywhere (except Pakistan).

So, I'd back the Pak/Ind joint XI to at least draw outside SC whilst winning competitively in SC.

This is a very tight bowling combination:
Kapil Dev

Imran Khan (C)

Wasim Akram

Abdul Qadir

Greatly disagree Clive Lloyd's men thrashed India in India 3-0 in 1983-84 and beat Pakistan convincingly in 1980.With Hoding Roberts and Garner and Lloyd adding to ranks they would still be favourites.Viv steam may have lost but unlikely Lloyd's.

 

[Harsh Thakor]

this is the truth. west Indians will get crushed by a indo pak team comfortably.

I deeply differ .Lloyds men thrashed India and Pakistan on the sub-continent in the 1980's.

 

[Junaids]

West Indies comfortably.

In that period only two Indians would have got into the Pakistan team - Gavaskar and Kapil Dev.

 

[Harsh Thakor]

West Indies comfortably.

In that period only two Indians would have got into the Pakistan team - Gavaskar and Kapil Dev.

Not Amarnath who you hold in such esteem?Why not?

 

[tyron_woodley]

I deeply differ .Lloyds men thrashed India and Pakistan on the sub-continent in the 1980's.

dint pakistam draw twice at home vs them? I am sure a step her indo pak team could dominate them. Not sure about away. Pakistam drew vs a weakened west indian side. So I can't say if a indo pak t3am can win away in indies.

 

[Dulex9]

Gavaskar
Srikkanth
Zaheer Abbas
Maindad
Vengsarkar
Imran Khan
Kapil Dev
Qadir
Wasim
Salim Yousuf
Bedi

 

[Ab Fan]

Pre-2000s joint India Pak XI

Gavaskar
Anwar
Miandad
Tendulkar
Inzamam
Imran Khan(c)
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Anil Kumble
Wasim Bari(wkt)
Waqar Younis

 

[tyron_woodley]

Pre-2000s joint India Pak XI

Gavaskar
Anwar
Miandad
Tendulkar
Inzamam
Imran Khan(c)
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Anil Kumble
Wasim Bari(wkt)
Waqar Younis

would absolutely annihilate west indies at home and away.

 

[Ab Fan]

would absolutely annihilate west indies at home and away.

It would only be fair to compare it to Windies pre 2000s XI.

Greenidge
Haynes
Lara
Viv Richards
Llyod(c)
Sobers
Dujjon(wkt)
Marshall
Holding
Garner
Ambrose

It should be a good contest.