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We remember Inzamam as one of the key components of the 1992 World Cup win especially in the latter stages.

However looking at his record in World Cups, it's pretty awful :-

Hundreds : 0
Fifties : 4
Runs : 717
Highest score : 81
Average : 23.90
 
Yes, it's well know that he has done nothing really of note in world cups other than that 60 against New Zealand in 92 and a half century against Australia in the league matches in 1999.
In line with the rest of his career; Pakistan's best but a massive underperformer when judged vs international peers.
 
At least Yousuf had the good sense to score runs against the associate nations to try and hide his pathetic World Cup record.
 
Yes. But he won the World Cup within his first 2 years in intl cricket and a WHOLE TWO DECADES before Sachin could and hence he is the greater batsman of the two and this record doesn't mean anything

#romallirottilogic
 
Not a good record.

But he has won us some matches which became memorable, that's why the perception. Excellent record in tests though.

Dhoni is regarded as a bigger match winner than SRT but their batting in general can't be compared, nor the batting records.
 
Saj said:
We remember Inzamam as one of the key components of the 1992 World Cup win especially in the latter stages.

However looking at his record in World Cups, it's pretty awful :-

Hundreds : 0
Fifties : 4
Runs : 717
Highest score : 81
Average : 23.90
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His innings ended curse of World Cup semifinal for Pakistan and he also played the match winning inning against the Aussies before they went on three world cup winning streak.
 
Big Mac said:
Pakistan have three batsmen with a career average of 50+ in World Cups, the identities of two those would upset a lot of PPers :raja:misbah
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Rambo really raised his game in 92 and that is what we need from our current lot now that business end of World Cup is starting soon.
 
Slog said:
Yes. But he won the World Cup within his first 2 years in intl cricket and a WHOLE TWO DECADES before Sachin could and hence he is the greater batsman of the two and this record doesn't mean anything

#romallirottilogic
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He won in graveyard of Asian teams while Hindustani needed home advantage to win it.
 
Classyshot said:
Jeevay Inzi Jeevay!
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Yep.

He got one wc. So did the other great batsmen of his generation apart from Ponting

And he got it a whole 2 decades before sachin so he is a better WC player than him :D
 
Awful running didn't help matters. Inzi and MoYo on the crease = who will run the other out first?
 
Inzamam was a fantastic ODI player no doubt, and its no coincidence that we have struggled to chase 300+ after his retirement. However, he underachieved on the big stage big time and in fact didn't live up his potential either.

As a batsman overall, ability wise, he could have been an all-time great, but he stopped progressing as a batsman and simply maintained his level because he did not have the drive and attitude. He was content with who he was and what he did, and his negligence throughout his career in regards to his fitness is just one example of how low his motivation level was, which is why by the end of his career, all-time great batsmen of his generation like Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Dravid left him in their dust.
 
1992 World Cup final, please dont forget the most important cricket match in our history
 
Slog said:
what was his stats in 1996?
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He scored 145 runs at 48.66 in 6 games. Purely helped by two not out innings against England and Netherlands. He scored 12, 39 and 23 against India, New Zealand and South Africa. Scored 53 no against England and 18 no against ND.
 
giri26 said:
He scored 145 runs at 48.66 in 6 games. Purely helped by two not out innings against England and Netherlands. He scored 12, 39 and 23 against India, New Zealand and South Africa. Scored 53 no against England and 18 no against ND.
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oh ok,.

I was at 1996 England game. Was only 5 so don't remember anything lol :D
 
Slog said:
Yep.

He got one wc. So did the other great batsmen of his generation apart from Ponting

And he got it a whole 2 decades before sachin so he is a better WC player than him :D
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I agreed! Insha'Allah Misbah can do it for Pakistan this world cup. Kia Pata Sohaib Maqsood karle Pakistan kay Liye.

acho Haat mein haat milakay dua hi karsak tha hai.
 
Could've been an ATG ODI batsman, but just wasn't a big match player (apart from those two games in 1992WC). I guess he felt he had nothing more to achieve after 1992.

His ODI statistics in tournament finals are even worse. From what i've seen of him in ODI's he would bring his A game vs India, Sri Lanka and the likes. Still a Pakistani great ODI batsman.I rate him as a better Test batsman than an ODI batsman.
 
I was at Old Trafford in 99 against Ind and he played one of the worst innings I have ever seen from any batsman at that level. He made Tendulkar, Ganguly, Jadeja and Robin Singh look like Garner, Holding, Marshall and Croft.
 
Mamoon said:
Inzamam was a fantastic ODI player no doubt, and its no coincidence that we have struggled to chase 300+ after his retirement. However, he underachieved on the big stage big time and in fact didn't live up his potential either.

As a batsman overall, ability wise, he could have been an all-time great, but he stopped progressing as a batsman and simply maintained his level because he did not have the drive and attitude. He was content with who he was and what he did, and his negligence throughout his career in regards to his fitness is just one example of how low his motivation level was, which is why by the end of his career, all-time great batsmen of his generation like Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Dravid left him in their dust.
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That is actually true. He didn't have the drive or the hunger for runs. In fact I think Inzi himself has said that he wished he had the same hunger and drive for runs as Tendulkar did.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1992. A World Cup semi-final win for Pakistan in Auckland. New Zealand made 262 for 7 thanks to Martin Crowe's 91. Pakistan started slowly until Inzamam-ul-Haq smashed 60 off 37 balls before Javed Miandad & Moin Khan saw Pakistan home by 4 wickets <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/e5Jg8LXVxv">pic.twitter.com/e5Jg8LXVxv</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1505821489920192513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Statistics don't always tell the story with regards Pakistan batsman and World Cups.

I cannot deny Inzi's average is poor. However he played a key role in the Semi Final and Final. Essentially these innings went a long way towards Pakistan winning their only world cup.

Salim Malik who was still in his prime was dreadful in 1992. And whilst his stats look good on paper in 1987 and 1996 none of his contributions were in key crunch games.

Who would people say was our best batsman in World Cups ? Javed Miandad ?
 
92 world cup semi

a good knock in leeds vs Aussies in 99.

otherwise a huge flop playing in world cup games.
 
Yousuf’s record is even more pathetic at the World Cup. At least Inzi played that one outstanding innings against NZ.
 
That 92 semi final and final absolves him of any further responsibility to score. He paid his dues even before they were due. Legend.
 
Saeed Anwar was the Pakistanis greatest odi batsman and had great record at ICC tournaments including Champions trophy or Knockout cup.
Babar has the opportunity to grab it.
 
Yeah he was generally poor in world cups He had a half decent tourney in 1999 and of course scored them tournament winning runs in 1992

1996 he went missing against india

2003 shouldve been his prime but he lost all that weight and could hardly score a run

He was past it in 2007 and retired after that tourney
 
Inzi oozed lethargy got a free pass despite a passenger in field a big reason why fielding is still our achilles heel
 
People are going to hate this stat, but Misbah had a great record in ICC world cups .
Think he averaged 50 across 2 world cups.
 
In contrast, let us have a look at AB de Villiers World Cup performance:

Matches - 23
Runs - 1207 runs
AVG - 63.5
S/R - 117
100s - 4
50s - 6

That is just freakingly amazing. For instance, below is Viv Richards World Cup record:

Matches 23
Runs 1013 runs
AVG 63
S/R 85
100s - 3
50s - 5
 
GreenKhan said:
People are going to hate this stat, but Misbah had a great record in ICC world cups .
Think he averaged 50 across 2 world cups.
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People would hate that stat because they understand that the last thing one should do when looking at Misbah's career is to look at stats in isolation. To judge Misbah's career, you need to also understand the context in which he scored his runs. Most of his runs, in ODIs, were scored with the nature that did more harm to the side than good. There were countless times when he would walk in with the rr hovering around 4.5 and he would lower that, in the name of consolidation, to around 3 and take his sweet time. He'd end up with a 60 odd innings, the team with a mediocre total and and an eventual loss more often than not.

Mohali being the perfect example of the above.

So, please don't just look at the stats when it comes to Misbah - look at how he scored the runs and what impact they had on the team.
 
Kianig89 said:
Inzi oozed lethargy got a free pass despite a passenger in field a big reason why fielding is still our achilles heel
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Weird logic. Fielding was #hit way before Inzi. What do the recent fielding standards got to do with Inzi?
 
Slog said:
Yes. But he won the World Cup within his first 2 years in intl cricket and a WHOLE TWO DECADES before Sachin could and hence he is the greater batsman of the two and this record doesn't mean anything

#romallirottilogic
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:)), loved the post Slog
 
Snowflake said:
People would hate that stat because they understand that the last thing one should do when looking at Misbah's career is to look at stats in isolation. To judge Misbah's career, you need to also understand the context in which he scored his runs. Most of his runs, in ODIs, were scored with the nature that did more harm to the side than good. There were countless times when he would walk in with the rr hovering around 4.5 and he would lower that, in the name of consolidation, to around 3 and take his sweet time. He'd end up with a 60 odd innings, the team with a mediocre total and and an eventual loss more often than not.

Mohali being the perfect example of the above.

So, please don't just look at the stats when it comes to Misbah - look at how he scored the runs and what impact they had on the team.
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I did not look at the stats in isolation . Misbah scored 7 50s in world cups, and 5 were in winning matches .

So it’s clear to see that Misbah was a big tournament player and his average of 50 in world cups had a solid impact on the team .

He was one of Pakistan’s few consistent batters in ICC tournaments.

Hence why i said earlier certain people will hate this stat.
 
GreenKhan said:
I did not look at the stats in isolation . Misbah scored 7 50s in world cups, and 5 were in winning matches .

So it’s clear to see that Misbah was a big tournament player and his average of 50 in world cups had a solid impact on the team .

He was one of Pakistan’s few consistent batters in ICC tournaments.

Hence why i said earlier certain people will hate this stat.
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Oh no, not Misbah again.

When the legends of cricket sit down around a campfire on a cold, winter night, and the debate turns to the best Pakistani batsmen in world cups, I am sure Misbah's name will not be in it. It just won't. Try as you must.

This, without me looking at whom he scored his runs against at what SR, and what did he do when it mattered to take his team over the line in key matches.

Inzamam's name will be there - just for those 2 innings. That's how impact is measured.
 
Inzi somehow used to go out of form just few months before the WCs , seen that happen in almost all the WCs starting from 96 to 2003..

Leading up to 2007 , he was in a great touch but one loss to Ireland and another loss to Bangladesh end two great batsmen captaincy careers, and after the two arch rivals early exit, that WC in WI took the interest out for many and became a cake walk for that strong Aus side.. SRL though had a full flow with their players in good form especially Mahela Sanath and Sanga in good form doing the runs column for them....
 
I am happy to take Inzi’s 2 innings in 92 world cup which won us the world cup rather than great dozen innings of klusener or AB which ultimately did not win them the wc.
 
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