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Inzamam-ul-Haq vs Kumar Sangakkara - Whom would you honestly pick in your team?

Whom would you honestly pick in your team?


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Was discussing with my chhotu brother.

Told him his bhaijaan’s picking Inzy over Sangakkara in literally any format anywhere.

Cricket isn’t all about numbers but about about delivering in your role when and where it matters and I believe Inzy did that more effectively.

What do you reckon. Please share with him.
 
i would take sanga personally in tests. Not sure about ODI's but Sanga does ad value with his WK skills as well so yeah i would lean towards Sanga in that format as well.
 
Back in 2005, there was a T20 charity game at the oval Pakistan vs world XI (basically a Pakistan vs India match) I went to watch it live with a few friends. The match was reduced to 10 over aside. Lara and Tendulkar tonked Waqar around like a trundler and set a mammoth 120 total. Pakistani openers wasted first couple of overs and scored around 10-12. Then we got to witness the best of Afridi, I believe better than his 37 ball hundred innings, in near darkness, he scored 40 odd in 9-10 balls. Even then it didn't seem enough to take Pakistan over the line, inzimam in the 9th over started taking singles and a couple of doubles and it made us all furious, some even shouted aaloo aloo. It was really disappointed to see izimam not even trying to score a boundary, extremely lazy and disinterested in scoring boundries..

Tenth over, 20 odd runs required, inzimam on strike.. he hit 4's and 6's as if he was eating parathas or biryani or whatever his favourite food is. I have never ever in my entire life have been impressed by any innings this much, till this day. It was the best I've ever seen anyone bat, this was the first time I watched Sachin, Lara, Afridi bat, and they all played extremely well, but inzamam was the boss of them all. And there's no other player I'd rather have in my playing XI over this man of crisis. Truly a Pakistani GOAT batsman.
 
It's a tough one but feel like Inzi edges him given how impactful he was
 
Sangakara was a better batsman. His stats are better. He was more stylish.

I'd still pick Inzi.

The calmness and class he oozed. Under pressure, the greatest batsman Pakistan have ever had. Much more of an impact player then Sanga too.

This for tests. For ODIs its not even close, Inzi by a mile.
 
Karachi ODI - 2004

The way Inzy dragged Pakistan from sure defeat to the mist epic chase at that time and under that sort of pressure. Can't imagine Sangakkara pulling something like that, ever in an ODI.
 
Back in 2005, there was a T20 charity game at the oval Pakistan vs world XI (basically a Pakistan vs India match) I went to watch it live with a few friends. The match was reduced to 10 over aside. Lara and Tendulkar tonked Waqar around like a trundler and set a mammoth 120 total. Pakistani openers wasted first couple of overs and scored around 10-12. Then we got to witness the best of Afridi, I believe better than his 37 ball hundred innings, in near darkness, he scored 40 odd in 9-10 balls. Even then it didn't seem enough to take Pakistan over the line, inzimam in the 9th over started taking singles and a couple of doubles and it made us all furious, some even shouted aaloo aloo. It was really disappointed to see izimam not even trying to score a boundary, extremely lazy and disinterested in scoring boundries..

Tenth over, 20 odd runs required, inzimam on strike.. he hit 4's and 6's as if he was eating parathas or biryani or whatever his favourite food is. I have never ever in my entire life have been impressed by any innings this much, till this day. It was the best I've ever seen anyone bat, this was the first time I watched Sachin, Lara, Afridi bat, and they all played extremely well, but inzamam was the boss of them all. And there's no other player I'd rather have in my playing XI over this man of crisis. Truly a Pakistani GOAT batsman.

Correction it was 2006. Found the link to the scorecard

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...s--pakistan-tour-of-england-and-scotland-2006
 
Back in 2005, there was a T20 charity game at the oval Pakistan vs world XI (basically a Pakistan vs India match) I went to watch it live with a few friends. The match was reduced to 10 over aside. Lara and Tendulkar tonked Waqar around like a trundler and set a mammoth 120 total. Pakistani openers wasted first couple of overs and scored around 10-12. Then we got to witness the best of Afridi, I believe better than his 37 ball hundred innings, in near darkness, he scored 40 odd in 9-10 balls. Even then it didn't seem enough to take Pakistan over the line, inzimam in the 9th over started taking singles and a couple of doubles and it made us all furious, some even shouted aaloo aloo. It was really disappointed to see izimam not even trying to score a boundary, extremely lazy and disinterested in scoring boundries..

Tenth over, 20 odd runs required, inzimam on strike.. he hit 4's and 6's as if he was eating parathas or biryani or whatever his favourite food is. I have never ever in my entire life have been impressed by any innings this much, till this day. It was the best I've ever seen anyone bat, this was the first time I watched Sachin, Lara, Afridi bat, and they all played extremely well, but inzamam was the boss of them all. And there's no other player I'd rather have in my playing XI over this man of crisis. Truly a Pakistani GOAT batsman.

I remember it as well. Afridi destroyed Zaheer and other bowlers.

Must have been an amazing experience witnessing Sachin. You can tell your kids and their kids that you watched him play live.
 
Sangakkara is a bonafide ATG of the game while Inzy is no more than a Pakistani great.
 
Sangakkara because he kept gloves as well and batted at 3 unlike Inzy who hide down the order.

Also, when it comes to picking one, we have to look who would be more valuable as a player. Inzy was poor when it comes to running between the wickets and not just that but even in the fielding department, I will pick Sanga as well.

I understand you dont rate him because he didnt do well in India in contrast to say, Sanath or Mahela as well as not being as consequential in WC knockouts as Sanath/Mahela were, particularly against India but Sanga definitely was an all-time great and his overall performance puts him among the best of all-time.
 
Never feared Sangakkara as an opposition fan. But Inzamam was someone I remember praying to God about whenever he was out there because no match or situation was unwinnable for as long as Inzy bhai held the post for Pakistan.
 
99% of fans, ex players, commentators, analysts pick Sangakkara over Inzamam. It doesn't matter who wins in this poll on a Pakistan forum. Sangakkara is a certified ATG and is miles ahead in test matches. Now you can pick Inzi based on "intangibles", "fear factor" and what's not.
 
Sanga has never played a knock like this, ever.

184 vs India in 2005 Bangalore test.

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Sanga has never played a knock like this, ever.

184 vs India in 2005 Bangalore test.

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What about his 192 at Hobart, 2007 where he almost chased down an impossible total if not for a bad decision?
 
Test Sanga
ODI Inzzi

Why would you pick Inzy over Sanga in ODIs. Inzy was a massive failure in world cups. If I'm not wrong, he does not have a single hundred against Australia and South Africa in his entire ODI career.
 
Loved Inzi the finisher. But hated him as a captain. He would hide down at no. 5 even in ODI's when he should have been batting at 3 or 4 and everyone was pleading him to bat higher up the order. His fielding and fitness levels were atrocious. Created a strong group among the team. He had his stooges in Rana Naveed being his personal favourite(possibly the only pakistani bowler apart from Wahab Riaz of ODI's who i wanted to see failing miserably) and his refusal to play a specialist spinner in ODI's and instead relying on Afridi and Malik for lead spin duties even in subcontinent always made me cringe. He was possibly second only to Imran in terms of power and authority he had in team affairs.

On one hand, I was waiting for Inzi the captain to retire quickly since early 2006 and on the other hand, I wished to see Inzi the batter to be in the team for as long as possible. He was always the man of crises, the sole survivor. When everyone would succumb, he would be staying with the tailenders and would see through till the end. His 70 odd against West Indies in 2006 ODI in a small 150 chase was a classic Inzi knock. Similarly his last ball 4 inning against India in India 2005 was a gem. His 92 not out with a broken arm with Sami, Shoaib, Asif and Kaneria against Steyn Pollock and Ntini at Port Elizabeth was one of the best I have seen.

As much as I loved his batting, I hated the guy for above reasons.

Now to the topic, I would have Sanga as his last 6-7 years of INT cricket were nothing short than legendary.
 
Sangers any day of the week.

Better batsman, wicket-keeper/fielder, captain, leader, etc.

Maybe not as clutch as Inzi but still capable of producing quality knocks.
 
Depends on other team composition.

Sangakkara merits a place, if there is no better wk to fit in. Generally in these kind of XI, Gilchrist is the automatic choice.

Sangakkara was good, but I have never seen him rescuing the team and bringing them to the finish line. There might be few in some low profile Bilateral series. While for Inzi, I have seen that being happened very often. So my pick will be Inzi, but again his fielding and running between is the wickets is absolute nonsense
 
What about his 192 at Hobart, 2007 where he almost chased down an impossible total if not for a bad decision?

Against a B grade Aussie line up on the flattest pitch ever?

Not even among Sri Lanka's top 10 test knocks. Chandimal's hundred vs India back in 2012-13 is what you call a legendary knock.
 
Against a B grade Aussie line up on the flattest pitch ever?

Not even among Sri Lanka's top 10 test knocks. Chandimal's hundred vs India back in 2012-13 is what you call a legendary knock.

Rubbish. It is one of the greatest inning by an Asian batsmen in Australian soil. It was on a 5th day pitch against a good bowling attack of Lee, Stuart Clarke, Johnson and MacGill and Sanga almost looked like chasing a historical 510 before a wrong decision by umpire went against him. From Sri Lankan point of view, it was massive because they never won a test there.
 
Against India Inzi had almost always performed and as long as he was on that pitch India were never sure they would come out winner.

You can't say same about Sanga against India.
 
Look everyone knows I have a soft spot for Inzy but Sanga wins this race. One of the classiest and elegant batsmen I've seen.
 
Loved Inzi the finisher. But hated him as a captain. He would hide down at no. 5 even in ODI's when he should have been batting at 3 or 4 and everyone was pleading him to bat higher up the order. His fielding and fitness levels were atrocious. Created a strong group among the team. He had his stooges in Rana Naveed being his personal favourite(possibly the only pakistani bowler apart from Wahab Riaz of ODI's who i wanted to see failing miserably) and his refusal to play a specialist spinner in ODI's and instead relying on Afridi and Malik for lead spin duties even in subcontinent always made me cringe. He was possibly second only to Imran in terms of power and authority he had in team affairs.

On one hand, I was waiting for Inzi the captain to retire quickly since early 2006 and on the other hand, I wished to see Inzi the batter to be in the team for as long as possible. He was always the man of crises, the sole survivor. When everyone would succumb, he would be staying with the tailenders and would see through till the end. His 70 odd against West Indies in 2006 ODI in a small 150 chase was a classic Inzi knock. Similarly his last ball 4 inning against India in India 2005 was a gem. His 92 not out with a broken arm with Sami, Shoaib, Asif and Kaneria against Steyn Pollock and Ntini at Port Elizabeth was one of the best I have seen.

As much as I loved his batting, I hated the guy for above reasons.

Now to the topic, I would have Sanga as his last 6-7 years of INT cricket were nothing short than legendary.

I have a soft spot for "sole survivor"/"batsman of crises" type batsmen and Inzamam exemplified that for me. No matter the situation, he'd come in when we were inevitably 30-2 and as a fan would relax as you'd know he'd steady the ship more often than not.

However I think you're being harsh on Rana Naved - yes he won't go down as an ATG but his performances against India, most notably the 2005 India ODI series, was magnificent. This was a time when our pace bowling stocks had dipped post Wasim/Waqar, and with Akhtar continually injured, Rana Naved was an honest trier who held the fort for a while. His tendency to concede extras was infuriating though.

As for not playing a specialist spinner - that was a Bob Woolmer preference. Even in Tests, he'd rather play the all-rounder like Afridi or Razzaq than 6 specialist batsman so he'd have a 5th bowler. And to be fair, Afridi and Malik were at their peak as spinners in that time. Afridi went on to have an excellent run with the ball in LOIs until about 2014 when teams worked out his fast legbreaks.

True Inzamam was defensive as a captain and overbowled Kaneria. However even then I partly think that was due to our bowling attack not being as strong as the one Inzamam played with in the 90s. I agree with those who say Inzamam took the religiosity too far as captain - but to be honest after the groupings and factionalism of the 1990s, Inzamam HAD to rule with an iron fist to avoid the leadership merrygoround he saw himself.
 
against a good bowling attack of Lee, Stuart Clarke, Johnson and MacGill .

Thanks for doing the honours. That has to be one of the worst bowling attacks Australia fielded while in their prime. MacGill was trash against batsmen who were half decent against spin bowling. Johnson back then wasnt what he became years later. He was an awful bowler then. Ironically Stuart Clarke bowling at 120 kph was probably the best among those 4 at that time for a while. By all means it was a very good knock but it is nothing compared to Inzamam 184 against Indian bowlers in India after Pakistan 7/2 and in that sort of atmosphere.
 
Why would you pick Inzy over Sanga in ODIs. Inzy was a massive failure in world cups. If I'm not wrong, he does not have a single hundred against Australia and South Africa in his entire ODI career.

Sanga career average till rules relaxed was not much higher than what you are considering failure for Inzzy against 2 countries.
 
Thanks for doing the honours. That has to be one of the worst bowling attacks Australia fielded while in their prime. MacGill was trash against batsmen who were half decent against spin bowling. Johnson back then wasnt what he became years later. He was an awful bowler then. Ironically Stuart Clarke bowling at 120 kph was probably the best among those 4 at that time for a while. By all means it was a very good knock but it is nothing compared to Inzamam 184 against Indian bowlers in India after Pakistan 7/2 and in that sort of atmosphere.

Taking Sanga's gloves work into consideration, he has a claim to be the greatest Asian batsmen as far as test is concerned.
 
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Sangakkara is better statistically, but I would side with Inzamam because he played in an era where bowlers dominated.
 
Thanks for doing the honours. That has to be one of the worst bowling attacks Australia fielded while in their prime. MacGill was trash against batsmen who were half decent against spin bowling. Johnson back then wasnt what he became years later. He was an awful bowler then. Ironically Stuart Clarke bowling at 120 kph was probably the best among those 4 at that time for a while. By all means it was a very good knock but it is nothing compared to Inzamam 184 against Indian bowlers in India after Pakistan 7/2 and in that sort of atmosphere.

Absolutely!

Against a World class pace attack of Balaji, Irfan Pathan, Tendulkar and Ganguly. I think Kumble and Harbhajan were bowling at their peak powers as well. Truly amazing performance :bm
 
Absolutely!

Against a World class pace attack of Balaji, Irfan Pathan, Tendulkar and Ganguly. I think Kumble and Harbhajan were bowling at their peak powers as well. Truly amazing performance :bm

I am an Indian. I know when an epic knock is played against us. In my nearly 20 years of cricket following, Inzy 184 at Bangalore has to be easily among the top 3 test knocks ever played against us in India or anywhere else.

Indian fast bowlers for your info have mostly outperformed foreign fast bowlers in India. Balaji was great in fact I think I’m the same match and innig he eventually got Inzy out with probably one of the top 10 deliveries I have ever seen pitched by a fast bowler.

1000+ wicked between Bhai and Jumbo. I’m any form they were lethal in India.
 
Taking Sanga's gloves work into consideration, he has a claim to be the greatest Asian batsmen as far as test is concerned.

Not in top 5 for me.

Besides an average keeper at best. Let’s talk about his batting only. Sangakkara will never make a test XI based on his keeping. If I’m forced to pick him I will still play him as batsman and have Gilchrist so the keeping.
 
Sangakkara is better statistically, but I would side with Inzamam because he played in an era where bowlers dominated.

Imagine young Inzamam batting in last 10 years. Test average if 60 without doubt and in UAE he would be averaging 10 or something.
 
People talking smack about Samga in ODIs but he definitely could turn it on and later in his career I think he mastered ODIs.

Still remember his epic 90 when SL had to chase 400+ on a paratha track in India and he in part got them to 3 runs within victory in a pretty epic ODI.

Sanga Claus is very underrated here it seems, he’s probably a top 3 batsman of Asia, if not the direct heir to Sachin’s throne as of now till Virat sachins it from him.
 
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Not in top 5 for me.

Besides an average keeper at best. Let’s talk about his batting only. Sangakkara will never make a test XI based on his keeping. If I’m forced to pick him I will still play him as batsman and have Gilchrist so the keeping.

What if you dont get Gilchrist as a keeper? That was the case with Sri Lanka. They have to give gloves to Sanga. He would have averaged 60 if he didn't keep gloves for 50 matches he did. Inzy averages 49 on other hand after hiding down the order at 5. Just look at the way Sanga treated Ajmal at its peak . Its not even a debate IMO.

Inzy wins in odis though.
 
So far in the poll every Pakistani poster has voted for Sanga. It's good to see that while Pakistani fans may have a lot of issues, at least most of them aren't blinded by "desh bhakti" and can appreciate players from the opposition even at the expense of their own players.
 
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While Inzi was the best Asian batsman against pace bowlers as he always had that extra fraction of a second compared to his peers, Sanga can be argued to be the greatest Asian test batsman ever. Tough one. I'd go with Inzi in ODIs and Sanga in tests.
Good thread [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION].
 
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While Inzi was the best Asian batsman against pace bowlers as he always had that extra fraction of a second compared to his peers, Sanga can be argued to be the greatest Asian test batsman ever. Tough one. I'd go with Inzi in ODIs and Sanga in tests.
Good thread [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION].

What did the best Asian batsman against pace average against Australia and South Africa in tests and ODIs?
 
So far in the poll every Pakistani poster has voted for Sanga. It's good to see that while Pakistani fans may have a lot of issues, at least most of them aren't blinded by "desh bhakti" and can appreciate players from the opposition even at the expense of their own players.

If you were to have a best 11 against Pakistan, the first two names you would pick are Sehwag and Sanga.
 
I am an Indian. I know when an epic knock is played against us. In my nearly 20 years of cricket following, Inzy 184 at Bangalore has to be easily among the top 3 test knocks ever played against us in India or anywhere else.

Indian fast bowlers for your info have mostly outperformed foreign fast bowlers in India. Balaji was great in fact I think I’m the same match and innig he eventually got Inzy out with probably one of the top 10 deliveries I have ever seen pitched by a fast bowler.

1000+ wicked between Bhai and Jumbo. I’m any form they were lethal in India.

Are you saying its much tougher for a Pakistan batsman to face Indian bowlers in India, rather than Australian bowlers in Australia? That's what you learnt after 20 years of cricket following?

I think you are trolling.
 
Sanga career average till rules relaxed was not much higher than what you are considering failure for Inzzy against 2 countries.

Don't forget that Sanga was a keeper batsman. He flourished later in his career.
 
Don't forget that Sanga was a keeper batsman. He flourished later in his career.

I was just judging both of them as batsman here. If keeping is also considered then I will take Sanga even in ODI.
 
Back in 2005, there was a T20 charity game at the oval Pakistan vs world XI (basically a Pakistan vs India match) I went to watch it live with a few friends. The match was reduced to 10 over aside. Lara and Tendulkar tonked Waqar around like a trundler and set a mammoth 120 total. Pakistani openers wasted first couple of overs and scored around 10-12. Then we got to witness the best of Afridi, I believe better than his 37 ball hundred innings, in near darkness, he scored 40 odd in 9-10 balls. Even then it didn't seem enough to take Pakistan over the line, inzimam in the 9th over started taking singles and a couple of doubles and it made us all furious, some even shouted aaloo aloo. It was really disappointed to see izimam not even trying to score a boundary, extremely lazy and disinterested in scoring boundries..

Tenth over, 20 odd runs required, inzimam on strike.. he hit 4's and 6's as if he was eating parathas or biryani or whatever his favourite food is. I have never ever in my entire life have been impressed by any innings this much, till this day. It was the best I've ever seen anyone bat, this was the first time I watched Sachin, Lara, Afridi bat, and they all played extremely well, but inzamam was the boss of them all. And there's no other player I'd rather have in my playing XI over this man of crisis. Truly a Pakistani GOAT batsman.

Haha, that was a great match. Afridi and Inzamam were pure entertainment. It's like Inzy got bored and just wanted to end the match and get to his Nihari in the dressing room.

I also remember some old uncle Indian fan shrieking to kill Inzy and cut off his head. One of the Pak fans ran upto him and blew a horn in his face lol.
 
Inzy any day One of the greatest pressure players ever. Made batting look ridiculously easy most times he went out

Sanga was very good and consistent but youd never fear hed run away and win the game on his own like you would with inzy
 
Inzy any day One of the greatest pressure players ever. Made batting look ridiculously easy most times he went out

Sanga was very good and consistent but youd never fear hed run away and win the game on his own like you would with inzy

If young Inzy debuted in 2000s what would he have averaged.

I am saying 57-58 with 40+ test centuries.
 
Back when I was cricket mad, remember growing up and seeing the collapse of the top order but I’d never worry as I knew Inzy was due to come in. Inzy was a fabulous player and a very impactful player. For me it’s inzy anytime any place. No questions asked.
He was so cool in chases and performed when it mattered. True legend of the game. Sanga also a legend but for me it’s Inzy
 
Inzy any day One of the greatest pressure players ever. Made batting look ridiculously easy most times he went out

Sanga was very good and consistent but youd never fear hed run away and win the game on his own like you would with inzy

Great pressure players do not average 23.90 in world cups and 29.56 in tournament finals.
 
I was just judging both of them as batsman here. If keeping is also considered then I will take Sanga even in ODI.

Even, Yosusuf was a better ODI batsman than Sanga but both Inzy and Yousuf were massive chokers in big tournaments.

All things considered, I will take Sanga over Inzy in ODIs.
 
Sanga has never played a knock like this, ever.

184 vs India in 2005 Bangalore test.

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How about his 230 vs Pakistan at Faisalabad?
 
What did the best Asian batsman against pace average against Australia and South Africa in tests and ODIs?

Statistics are largely irrelevant here. The game was played to a far higher standard (fielding excepted) in the 90s, particularly test cricket, although I wouldn't expect most millenials to understand why. I would suggest you watch what a forty year old Shoaib Akhtar did to Sangakarra in that masters match not so long ago. Cricket in the noughties has been reduced to baseball and if you believe that short boundaries, slow flat pitches, huge bats with amazing pick up, and garbage bowling attacks blessed with the ability not to move the ball off the straight constitutes a test of cricketing mettle then we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm pretty sure the chap affectionately termed MoYo on here would be averaging more than Steve Smith if he'd been playing for the last few years, I don't think the latter would've made the team with his method in the 90s or earlier. Inzi all the way, certainly in tests.
 
Statistics are largely irrelevant here. The game was played to a far higher standard (fielding excepted) in the 90s, particularly test cricket, although I wouldn't expect most millenials to understand why. I would suggest you watch what a forty year old Shoaib Akhtar did to Sangakarra in that masters match not so long ago. Cricket in the noughties has been reduced to baseball and if you believe that short boundaries, slow flat pitches, huge bats with amazing pick up, and garbage bowling attacks blessed with the ability not to move the ball off the straight constitutes a test of cricketing mettle then we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm pretty sure the chap affectionately termed MoYo on here would be averaging more than Steve Smith if he'd been playing for the last few years, I don't think the latter would've made the team with his method in the 90s or earlier. Inzi all the way, certainly in tests.

Statistics are relevant in when you average 30 against the two best fast bowling attacks at the time and some people here have the audacity to claim he was the so called best batsman of fast bowling.

Also, a 24 year old Sanga made 230 against a bowling attack consisting of Akhtar in his peak, Sami who was frighteningly fast then, Waqar and Razzaq. He also has hundreds against Steyn and is one of the few batsmen to dominate Ajmal who was a chucker. I wouldn't take what happened in a mickey mouse T20 game with a bunch of retirees too seriously.
 
Top 10 Asian test Batsmen of all-time IMHO:-

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Dravid
Miandad(Miandad and Dravid can switch though)
Younis
Sehwag
Inzamam
Laxman
Anwar/ Moyo/Mahela
 
Statistics are largely irrelevant here. The game was played to a far higher standard (fielding excepted) in the 90s, particularly test cricket, although I wouldn't expect most millenials to understand why. I would suggest you watch what a forty year old Shoaib Akhtar did to Sangakarra in that masters match not so long ago. Cricket in the noughties has been reduced to baseball and if you believe that short boundaries, slow flat pitches, huge bats with amazing pick up, and garbage bowling attacks blessed with the ability not to move the ball off the straight constitutes a test of cricketing mettle then we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm pretty sure the chap affectionately termed MoYo on here would be averaging more than Steve Smith if he'd been playing for the last few years, I don't think the latter would've made the team with his method in the 90s or earlier. Inzi all the way, certainly in tests.

Plenty of mediocre batsmen have scored runs against Akhtar in his pomp, and in 2002, Sangakkara scored 230 at a SR of 70+ against an attack of Waqar and Shoaib, when Shoaib was at the zenith of his career.

Hence, I am not sure about the relevance of your example. Sangakkara struggling against a 40 year old Akhtar for a couple of overs in an exhibition ground means absolutely nothing. He has toyed with the best bowlers in the world, unless you are suggesting that a 40 year old, long retired Akhtar is better than the contemporary world class bowlers, in which case one wonders why Akhtar retired in the first place.

Inzamam was a great player in his own right, but he would not be averaging 60 today. The weaknesses in his game had nothing to do with the era that he played his cricket in. He was a very good player of pace, but an average player of bounce. Hence, that is why he had a mediocre record in Australia and South Africa.

He struggled against Donald and Pollock in South Africa, and he would struggle against Steyn and Rabada today. As far as MoYo is concerned, he is underrated on PP, but they were glaring weaknesses in his game as well. A magnificent player of lateral movement, but he was average on turning pitches. Smith's ton on a rank-turner in Pune is the type of pitch on which MoYo struggled throughout his career.

Pitches have been flat in ODIs since the 90's, and some of the Asian Test wickets in the 90's and 2000's were flatter than what we are seeing today. The difference in ODI cricket today is that batsmen are more inventive with a wider array of shots. The likes of Jayasuriya were revolutionary in his era because he was ahead of his time; unlike other openers of his era who opted to see off the new ball, his modus operandi was to make the new ball fly.

A lot of deliveries that were respected by the batsmen of yesteryears are now deposited to the boundary. Starc, Boult, Rabada and Hazlewood etc. are world class bowlers by any measure, and even they routinely get smashed because of the paradigm shift in the mindset of the batsmen.

It is a myth that the great bowlers of the previous eras would be taking wickets for fun today. They would routinely get smashed as well, because majority of the batsmen of their time did not have the mindset to punish their bad balls like the batsmen today.
 
Top 10 Asian test Batsmen of all-time IMHO:-

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Dravid
Miandad(Miandad and Dravid can switch though)
Younis
Sehwag
Inzamam
Laxman
Anwar/ Moyo/Mahela
Mohinder amarnath above moyo and mahela.
Add dilip vengsarkar to anwar, mahela.
Gundappa also deseves a place and ganguly too.
 
Top 10 Asian test Batsmen of all-time IMHO:-

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Dravid
Miandad(Miandad and Dravid can switch though)
Younis
Sehwag
Inzamam
Laxman
Anwar/ Moyo/Mahela

No Kohli who may retire as the greatest batsman from Asia? The rest of the ranking is right.
 
Only retired ones. Kohli should end in top 5 test batsmen as well.

top 5? kohli has made many soft runs in test cricket no way he is in top 5. In odis he can retire as greatest from asia though.
 
top 5? kohli has made many soft runs in test cricket no way he is in top 5. In odis he can retire as greatest from asia though.

I have said he should end in top 5 by retirement.

He was the best batsmen in South Africa 2018 tour and the home series vs England.

He was also India's best batsmen in Australia tour 2014. And he is just half way at the moment. He has done well against Sri Lanka, West Indies and New Zealand in the tours he has done till now.
 
Inzamam has a test hundred against peak McGdath in Australia in 1999.

He did that along with Anwar and Yousuf. The three greatest Pakistani batsmen if all time during my time.
 
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