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"Inzamam's advice is always a great help" : Imam-ul-Haq

Ideally, that should be the case - but I don't want another Umar Amin out of Babar. At 19, Amin was sent to UK, with one of the most inexperienced PAK batting line-up, batted at 3/4 below Butt, Farhat, Azhar & above Umar. I can tell that against that English attack, many aache-acchos would have been found out (check Indian side very next year), but Amin had to pay for that. Knowing by PCB & it's decision makers, if Babar struggles in Test against a very good English side at home, they might drop him for ODI & entirely from WI series - bringing back MoHa, Maqsood & Manzoor, Latif to roost on WI bowlers.

I have ZERO confidence & respect on PCB & it's staff when it comes to groom young batsmen. Had Tony Greig not picked Javed at 18 for Sussex, I am not sure how much better he would have finished compared to say Steve Tikolo or Habibul Basher.


Babar has the backing of inzi though because that's why he sent him on A tour to give him more 1st class experience. Also inzi is aware of batsmen needing time to understand international cricket. Furthermore babar will have a much more experienced batting line up compared to the one Amin had. But I would understand if Babar is saved for LOI games against England.

I can see misbah retiring after England series so Babar will more than likely be starting against West indies so it will give him a good start in test cricket in preparation for New Zealand and Australia series
 
Babar has the backing of inzi though because that's why he sent him on A tour to give him more 1st class experience. Also inzi is aware of batsmen needing time to understand international cricket. Furthermore babar will have a much more experienced batting line up compared to the one Amin had. But I would understand if Babar is saved for LOI games against England.

I can see misbah retiring after England series so Babar will more than likely be starting against West indies so it will give him a good start in test cricket in preparation for New Zealand and Australia series

You don't have much idea about PAK's sports journalists & senior cricketers - for a little favor, you don't know what you can get out of their column or mouth.

I just don't want Babar to face the same fate like Sami Aslam or Amin - just don't want vultures to get anything to chew regarding his career. There is a reason that definition of youngster in PAK cricket has changed to 30 years old & in modern game, average age of the team is 35, that too on official age.
 
You don't have much idea about PAK's sports journalists & senior cricketers - for a little favor, you don't know what you can get out of their column or mouth.

I just don't want Babar to face the same fate like Sami Aslam or Amin - just don't want vultures to get anything to chew regarding his career. There is a reason that definition of youngster in PAK cricket has changed to 30 years old & in modern game, average age of the team is 35, that too on official age.

Hahaha bhai sometimes you over analyze. Babar Azam talent is clear man. He's rated highly by Inzi.media won't get him dropped or make him worse. It will be his fault if he doesn't realize his potential
 
Hahaha bhai sometimes you over analyze. Babar Azam talent is clear man. He's rated highly by Inzi.media won't get him dropped or make him worse. It will be his fault if he doesn't realize his potential

It's not over analyze, or Babar's talent - it's about vested interest. There are only 2/3 spots open in a squad, may be 1/2 in playing XI - if your media & former players can't get out of personal shenanigans or regional bias, no young player is safe. There was official quota system in past in Indian cricket - there is unofficial quota in PAK cricket.

You have 16 players to pick for squad, 11 to play - always 7/8 spots are fixed; therefore often youngsters are sacrificed. For example, with all his talents & potential - if it comes to a direct knock-out, Rashid Latif 'll say that Latif or Manzoor deserves more than Babar, as they are performing in domestics & more experienced - and you know why. It's not Latif only - I can say the same story from other end if it comes between Zulfiquar & Asghar. Imran had a policy that he'll pick at least 2 youngsters in every series - that youngster quota is the only way, otherwise average age 'll reach to 38.
 
It's not over analyze, or Babar's talent - it's about vested interest. There are only 2/3 spots open in a squad, may be 1/2 in playing XI - if your media & former players can't get out of personal shenanigans or regional bias, no young player is safe. There was official quota system in past in Indian cricket - there is unofficial quota in PAK cricket.

You have 16 players to pick for squad, 11 to play - always 7/8 spots are fixed; therefore often youngsters are sacrificed. For example, with all his talents & potential - if it comes to a direct knock-out, Rashid Latif 'll say that Latif or Manzoor deserves more than Babar, as they are performing in domestics & more experienced - and you know why. It's not Latif only - I can say the same story from other end if it comes between Zulfiquar & Asghar. Imran had a policy that he'll pick at least 2 youngsters in every series - that youngster quota is the only way, otherwise average age 'll reach to 38.

Yhh true that does happen a lot but with inzi as selector I can see some change. Look at current a tour selected usually we have TTFs and some youngsters. But inzi has selected a proper A squad. Also he is going to watch domestic cricket to ensure he sects squad on merit. Inzi is respected in media so I'm sure they will respect his choices. Hopefully he can reduce average age. Hopefully Amad Butt amir Yamin asghar rizwan Hassan ali can help bring down average age
 
Yhh true that does happen a lot but with inzi as selector I can see some change. Look at current a tour selected usually we have TTFs and some youngsters. But inzi has selected a proper A squad. Also he is going to watch domestic cricket to ensure he sects squad on merit. Inzi is respected in media so I'm sure they will respect his choices. Hopefully he can reduce average age. Hopefully Amad Butt amir Yamin asghar rizwan Hassan ali can help bring down average age



Great if it happens, but so far didn't. For a pathetic PAK batting, Babar should have debuted in 2014, if not 2013, and by now he should be a permanent no 3/4 - still we are discussing if he should be in A team or National team
 
Great if it happens, but so far didn't. For a pathetic PAK batting, Babar should have debuted in 2014, if not 2013, and by now he should be a permanent no 3/4 - still we are discussing if he should be in A team or National team

He's earned his spot in in odi team. Will be at number 3 in a year or so. Also in tests will play in a few months relax bhai no point of rushing players in
 
Imam ul Haq was impressive in Pakistan cup and also in the recent series against Afghanistan XI. Hoping Imam ul Haq gets picked for Pakistan 'A'

From what I have seen of Imam ul Haq, he will do well in international cricket and hope to see him make his international debut in 2017
 
He should make his Test Debut in 2017, he can be a good replacement for Misbah/Younis when they retire. Test team should look like this:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Sami Aslam
3. Babar Azam
4. Imam ul Haq
5. Haris Sohail
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfaraz
8. Yasir Shah
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Rahat Ali
 
He should make his Test Debut in 2017, he can be a good replacement for Misbah/Younis when they retire. Test team should look like this:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Sami Aslam
3. Babar Azam
4. Imam ul Haq
5. Haris Sohail
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfaraz
8. Yasir Shah
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Rahat Ali

Imam is more of an opener and in all probability Azhar would have to slot back into the middle order.

What is heartening is Sami, Babar and Imam are all from the same batch of u19 and it seems their generation is slowly making its way to the side, successfully leapfrogging the Shehzad generation.
 
Great season for him. One more season and he should be opening for Pakistan
 
Great if it happens, but so far didn't. For a pathetic PAK batting, Babar should have debuted in 2014, if not 2013, and by now he should be a permanent no 3/4 - still we are discussing if he should be in A team or National team

Lol he's the permanent number 3 now told you not to over analyse
 
Lol he's the permanent number 3 now told you not to over analyse

It's great to bump an old thread & be smart - though it would have been better if you had the confidence at the start of the thread. Hind side is always wise :)
 
Lol this is our best Test opening combination in years and you wanna change it? In LOIs Babar or Umar must open with Sharjeel

He is not talking about today or tomorrow but a year or two down the line. Jury is still out on Sami a couple more poor series and he will find himself in hot water. Similarly Azhar Ali is no YK that he can rest on his laurels.
 
Lol this is our best Test opening combination in years and you wanna change it? In LOIs Babar or Umar must open with Sharjeel

There can always be improvement - otherwise how young players can make a break through. Besides, PAK's opening pair is not like Grineedge-Haynes or Saeed-Sohail that, the next one in line is 1 km behind. Both Azhar & Sami are extremely limited in shot making - this actually goes against such players when out of touch. Because, they take so much time to score that, when out of form, often gets out for 12-15 even after an hour of batting. Once Mark Taylor had about 17 Tests without a 50 - but, he batted some times even over a session. Azhar & Sami are similar type - when, they'll have a bad patch, you'll see a series of low, even single digit scores. Not saying Imam or anyone should replace them in a year or 2 for the sake of change, but they are not safe.
 
There can always be improvement - otherwise how young players can make a break through. Besides, PAK's opening pair is not like Grineedge-Haynes or Saeed-Sohail that, the next one in line is 1 km behind. Both Azhar & Sami are extremely limited in shot making - this actually goes against such players when out of touch. Because, they take so much time to score that, when out of form, often gets out for 12-15 even after an hour of batting. Once Mark Taylor had about 17 Tests without a 50 - but, he batted some times even over a session. Azhar & Sami are similar type - when, they'll have a bad patch, you'll see a series of low, even single digit scores. Not saying Imam or anyone should replace them in a year or 2 for the sake of change, but they are not safe.

Never said they were safe. No batsman in any format is except Babar because of his sheer potential
 
Lol this is our best Test opening combination in years and you wanna change it? In LOIs Babar or Umar must open with Sharjeel

It is good. But if we get a sound opener Azhar can move to no. 3, thus easing out the phase of Misbah and Younus's departure.

Imam is tailor made for tests. I dont see him as an ODI prospect
 
It's great to bump an old thread & be smart - though it would have been better if you had the confidence at the start of the thread. Hind side is always wise :)


As long as he was performing he was always going to be selected. You was trying to make out even if he is performing he won't be selected.
 
Shehzad's epic 12 ball duck means that Imam has a great chance of a debut in next game. Hope it happens
 
Young Imam Wants to Follow Footsteps of Uncle Inzamam

Young Imam Wants to Follow Footsteps of Uncle Inzamam

AFP | Updated: October 21, 2017, 10:50 AM IST

Abu Dhabi: Pakistan cricket's newest discovery Imam-ul-Haq has some very large footsteps to follow in -- those of his uncle, the great Inzamam-ul-Haq.

But Imam wasted no time in getting started, smashing a match-winning century on his one-day international debut against Sri Lanka in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday, becoming only the second Pakistani and 13th batsman in the world to achieve the feat.

As a child, Imam would receive guidance from Inzamam on the field, his father helping him skip school against his mother's wishes. He went on to wear Pakistani colours at junior level, impressing in the 2014 Junior World Cup.

Imam's run of form continued at domestic level and two centuries in the Under-23 Emerging Cup in Bangladesh this year elevated him to Pakistan's one-day side.

"I am proud to score a hundred on debut," said Imam, now 22. "When I was told that I achieved the honour of scoring a debut hundred I felt more proud to do this feat for my country."

Saleem Elahi is the only other Pakistani to hit a debut century, also against Sri Lanka at Gujranwala in 1995.

'A great influence'

It's not only Imam's style of play that is similar to his uncle. His stocky build and cherubic face resembles that of a young Inzamam, who once famously hit an Indian spectator after being called "Aloo" (potato).

The obvious difference is that Imam wears glasses -- a rare sight in cricket these days -- and bats left-handed. But the similarity to Inzamam is significant.

"Inzi uncle has been a great influence. Whenever I need help in batting he gives me time and always tells me to be positive, play brave cricket and believe in destiny," said Imam.

But having a cricket great for an uncle has its challenges, particularly as Inzamam heads the selection committee which chose the current one-day squad.

Imam's selection was criticised but the youngster justified his place.

"It's not my fault that I am his nephew," Imam said. "I can't help that. The best for me is to answer my critics with my bat and I have done that.

"It makes no difference to me because I have grown up in a (cricketing) family. I have self-belief and I am mature and I have played in Junior World Cups and have performed well to win in domestic matches."

Imam's century in the third one-day international looked in doubt when he was given out caught behind on 89.

He was trudging back when his batting partner Mohammad Hafeez stopped him to check the legality of the catch.

Television umpire Richard Kettleborough declared that the ball had touched the ground before reaching the wicketkeeper's gloves, allowing a relieved Imam to return to the crease and complete his century.

"Obviously it was bad feeling," Imam said. "I knew that I had nicked it, so I thought it's out and I have lost a chance to score a hundred. But when I knew that it was not out I felt like I was given a new life."

Imam has a long way to go, but his first knock at the international level proved that he has plenty of potential to make a name for himself, just like his famous uncle.

Link: http://www.news18.com/cricketnext/n...ollow-footsteps-of-uncle-inzamam-1552695.html
 
Impressive young man! 59* (49) in final of National T20 Cup
 
This guy has the right attitude, talent and drive to succeed. He is more similar to Babar than Umar which is good news for Pakistan cricket.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imam-ul-Haq 59* for Lahore Blues in the National T20 Cup final <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationalT20Cup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NationalT20Cup</a> <a href="https://t.co/BFk59vxF2N">pic.twitter.com/BFk59vxF2N</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/936271167060692998?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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He is coming on leaps and bounds, Needs to work on his balance- just falls over a little bit. But overall still looks like a player more suited to test cricket and maybe ODI cricket.
 
He is coming on leaps and bounds, Needs to work on his balance- just falls over a little bit. But overall still looks like a player more suited to test cricket and maybe ODI cricket.

He is better than Babar in T20s going by this tournament. Babar can't score with a sr of 130+ in T20s bar 1 innings here and there. Imam has got good build and much wider short range.
 
I think Imam has a higher ceiling than Sami Aslam and should be the better investment. I'm sure Mickey already knows this.
 
we'll see. I discount all performances against sri lanka - good or bad.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a way to start your international career! Pakistan's <a href="https://twitter.com/ImamUlHaq12?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImamUlHaq12</a> scored 100 on ODI debut v Sri Lanka in Abu Dhabi. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BestOf2017?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BestOf2017</a> <a href="https://t.co/fAX3cqQEY3">pic.twitter.com/fAX3cqQEY3</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/942273151366447104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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His impressive run continues - Well Done Inzi for selecting Imam.
 
Look at the posts in this elder thread from before he debuted for Pakistan. Everyone saw he had potential and lots of people were vouching that he gets an international call up. Now he's not doing AMAZING people are bashing him and crying nepotism. Hypocrites.
 
Look at the posts in this elder thread from before he debuted for Pakistan. Everyone saw he had potential and lots of people were vouching that he gets an international call up. Now he's not doing AMAZING people are bashing him and crying nepotism. Hypocrites.

Spot on.
 
Am sure Inzi is telling his nephew everyday no matter how mediocre and undeserving your selection is i will keep picking you.
 
Look at the posts in this elder thread from before he debuted for Pakistan. Everyone saw he had potential and lots of people were vouching that he gets an international call up. Now he's not doing AMAZING people are bashing him and crying nepotism. Hypocrites.

I am not bashing him for Test spot, and definitely not crying - BUT, he is a biased selection. I have over 35 posts in this thread and 32 months back, these were part my two post on IMAM
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Genes doesn't make sportsman - Pele's son was a Goal Keeper for a Brazilian 2nd division team. If genes had anything to sports/cricket then by this time Imran's 2 sons would have debuted for Pakistan or Rohan Gavaskar would have played 10+ years for India & LLoyd's son should have led WI.

System converts boys with fundamental skills into professional sportsman. Being Inzi's nephew, Imam must have got the inspiration, role model & access to facilities at younger age that has helped him to develop as cricketer, not that genetics has naturally has made him talented batsman. He started with a advantage handicap that 99.99% PAK kids can't even dream off; besides, this kid looks like intelligent & educated. His biggest challenge now could be that he is nephew of Inzi, something never helped Faisal Iqbal to fulfill his potential, though 15 years back; he was one of the best youngster in world cricket.


Sometimes, we are too harsh against players who has influential backing (& we don't like the man backing) - for example, any given day, between 2003 to 2011, I'll pick Farhat over MoHa as Test opener; but he was cursed for his FIL. Replace the venue & opponents - MoHa 'll struggle to match 80% of Farhat's stats while Farhat would have easily out numbered MoHa.

Similarly, Shaan is taken to the cleaners in every opportunity, but he is a decent Test prospect, deserved that chance.

I think, IMAM is a fantastic prospect, but he needs Haq's guidance & support to grow as a player not backing to leap-frog into PAK Cap. If I were Inzi, first thing I would have suggested is to pick a FC side that plays in top division & plays him as opener - be it for less money. And then spend 3/4 months in English league cricket.

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Do I sound hypocrite now?
 
I am not bashing him for Test spot, and definitely not crying - BUT, he is a biased selection. I have over 35 posts in this thread and 32 months back, these were part my two post on IMAM
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Genes doesn't make sportsman - Pele's son was a Goal Keeper for a Brazilian 2nd division team. If genes had anything to sports/cricket then by this time Imran's 2 sons would have debuted for Pakistan or Rohan Gavaskar would have played 10+ years for India & LLoyd's son should have led WI.

System converts boys with fundamental skills into professional sportsman. Being Inzi's nephew, Imam must have got the inspiration, role model & access to facilities at younger age that has helped him to develop as cricketer, not that genetics has naturally has made him talented batsman. He started with a advantage handicap that 99.99% PAK kids can't even dream off; besides, this kid looks like intelligent & educated. His biggest challenge now could be that he is nephew of Inzi, something never helped Faisal Iqbal to fulfill his potential, though 15 years back; he was one of the best youngster in world cricket.


Sometimes, we are too harsh against players who has influential backing (& we don't like the man backing) - for example, any given day, between 2003 to 2011, I'll pick Farhat over MoHa as Test opener; but he was cursed for his FIL. Replace the venue & opponents - MoHa 'll struggle to match 80% of Farhat's stats while Farhat would have easily out numbered MoHa.

Similarly, Shaan is taken to the cleaners in every opportunity, but he is a decent Test prospect, deserved that chance.

I think, IMAM is a fantastic prospect, but he needs Haq's guidance & support to grow as a player not backing to leap-frog into PAK Cap. If I were Inzi, first thing I would have suggested is to pick a FC side that plays in top division & plays him as opener - be it for less money. And then spend 3/4 months in English league cricket.

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Do I sound hypocrite now?

I wasn't referring to JUST you as a hypocrite. The point I was making is that everyone clearly saw he had a lot of potential, so to think he's being selected for no other reason than nepotism is clearly wrong when we all noticed he has all the right ingredients. The way certain posters are going about things, one would think he was a flop who had no promise but was picked due to his uncle but that clearly isn't the case, as is backed up by majority of people's posts in this thread.
 
I wasn't referring to JUST you as a hypocrite. The point I was making is that everyone clearly saw he had a lot of potential, so to think he's being selected for no other reason than nepotism is clearly wrong when we all noticed he has all the right ingredients. The way certain posters are going about things, one would think he was a flop who had no promise but was picked due to his uncle but that clearly isn't the case, as is backed up by majority of people's posts in this thread.

He still has potential, but that doesn't mean he should get a free ride. In bureaucracy, most of the officers are talented and capable, but still when a junior ranked officer leap-frogs seniors through political connections, no matter how good he is, do you think he won't face criticism?

His uncle actually has damaged his long term career prospect by awarding something he didn't deserve, and wasn't ready either, just like Faisal or Farhat - how many years Inzamam is going to be CS ? First thing next man might do is to make Imam's life difficult, by when finally he is probably ready.
 
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