IPL-bound England players to miss Pakistan tour

[MenInG]

The countdown for the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021 phase-2 has started, with franchises planning camps with their players in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). A number of cricket boards, including the England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB) and Cricket Australia, have confirmed their players' availability though it also has been reported that some of the IPL-bound England players would be missing the series against Pakistan to participate in the T20 league.

The IPL 2021 campaign had to be suspended mid-way due to Covid-19 cases in the league. The situation developed to an extent that the remainder of the league as well as the forthcoming T20 World Cup had to be scheduled in the UAE instead of India.

With the World Cup also being held in the UAE, boards across the globe see IPL as the perfect preparatory platform for the mega event. As has been the case with a few international assignments before, the board has given players the nod to weigh their IPL commitments over international assignments. Such a situation is quite likely to be seen when England tour Pakistan in October this year.

As per a report in Cricbuzz, some of England's first-choice players will not be flying to Pakistan for two T20Is on October 13 and 14. They would instead be busy plying trade with their respective IPL franchises in the remainder of the 2021 season.

Not just England, it has also been reported that New Zealand's forthcoming series against Pakistan will also not feature the IPL-bound players like Kane Williamson, Kyle Jamieson, Trent Boult, etc.

The board's nod, however, doesn't guarantee players' participation. The final call over participation in the remainder of the IPL will be in the hands of individual players. A few of the IPL franchises like Chennai Super Kings, Punjab Kings and already know of the names of their English and Australian players that will be in attendance while the others will are expected to soon come to know of the situation.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...tour-follow-new-zealand-formula-report/799129

 

[Ab Fan]

This is bound to happen.

IPL is on par with WT20 and much superior to international T20Is. Every single cricketer will prioritize IPL over T20Is as much as we may like to live in denial.

In March 2021, Kagiso Rabada and five other South African players left halfway the Pakistan T20 series and went to India for IPL amidst the worst situations of CoVID in India.

In July 2021, Kane Williamson and five other Kiwi players also did the same.

Now, England players are also gonna skip the T20I series for IPL.

I am not saying they will skip Test matches because I do agree that IPL cannot and should not take place for Test Cricket. However, after a number of South African and Kiwi players, England players have also proved that they prioritize IPL over T20Is and consider it probably on par with WT20. It is a no-miss tournament and a benchmark for limited overs league cricket.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

IPL keeps killing international cricket and only real cricket fans are realising it. Others are happy that a low quality league full of cheerleaders is taking more and more space on international calendar and affecting series after series. They don't realise that killing international cricket will eventually kill their favorite cartoon series too.

 

[Snowflake]

How come both our home tours are clashing with the IPL? That's poor scheduling.

 

[Rafa]

To be honest when Pakistan can't even defeat the English C side , then the ECB are well within their rights to send a depleted side to face Pakistan. Why not give a rest to your main players against a side which can't even defeat your Third String side ?

 

[MRSN]

This is bound to happen.

IPL is on par with WT20 and much superior to international T20Is. Every single cricketer will prioritize IPL over T20Is as much as we may like to live in denial.

In March 2021, Kagiso Rabada and five other South African players left halfway the Pakistan T20 series and went to India for IPL amidst the worst situations of CoVID in India.

In July 2021, Kane Williamson and five other Kiwi players also did the same.

Now, England players are also gonna skip the T20I series for IPL.

I am not saying they will skip Test matches because I do agree that IPL cannot and should not take place for Test Cricket. However, after a number of South African and Kiwi players, England players have also proved that they prioritize IPL over T20Is and consider it probably on par with WT20. It is a no-miss tournament and a benchmark for limited overs league cricket.

Come on man. It is the money they are after. It's an open fact. No body cares about anything else. These players are after lucrative monetary deals. The only people who are going to suffer are actual cricket lovers. I don't mind T20 cricket but priorities over national duties is criminal. It should not be encouraged otherwise cricket will suffer over all.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

This is bound to happen.

IPL is on par with WT20 and much superior to international T20Is. Every single cricketer will prioritize IPL over T20Is as much as we may like to live in denial.

In March 2021, Kagiso Rabada and five other South African players left halfway the Pakistan T20 series and went to India for IPL amidst the worst situations of CoVID in India.

In July 2021, Kane Williamson and five other Kiwi players also did the same.

Now, England players are also gonna skip the T20I series for IPL.

I am not saying they will skip Test matches because I do agree that IPL cannot and should not take place for Test Cricket. However, after a number of South African and Kiwi players, England players have also proved that they prioritize IPL over T20Is and consider it probably on par with WT20. It is a no-miss tournament and a benchmark for limited overs league cricket.

It's not about quality but the monetary benefit they get from IPL.

A lot of players won't care if a club starts paying them millions.

 

[IMMY69]

Come on man. It is the money they are after. It's an open fact. No body cares about anything else. These players are after lucrative monetary deals. The only people who are going to suffer are actual cricket lovers. I don't mind T20 cricket but priorities over national duties is criminal. It should not be encouraged otherwise cricket will suffer over all.

On top of that t20 league cricket just prior to the World Cup which is being held at the same venue!
Where does the appetite come from?

 

[IMMY69]

To be honest when Pakistan can't even defeat the English C side , then the ECB are well within their rights to send a depleted side to face Pakistan. Why not give a rest to your main players against a side which can't even defeat your Third String side ?

To be honest this line of argument is getting a bit boring now.
So Pakistan lost that series ho hum.
They also great South Africa in Pakistan (SA A side) and then again in South Africa...

Losses happen it's part and parcel.
But since we're talking about T20's then remember it was England's strong team and we smashed 220 odd in the first game and only lost the series 2-1 with the final game in the balance until the very last over.

 

[Titan24]

I think tours of NZ and Eng would do the job required of them and that is to put the final stamp on the revival of cricket in Pakistan. I think that was the main purpose at this time that is going to be served, yes rescheduled leagues being prioritized over international cricket is a worry for world cricket. Pak should play quality cricket irrespective of who is playing in the opposition.

 

[Omer2002]

Guys i dont frankly care about ipl and the scheduling ..we couldnt even beat england C team. The ipl clashes is the overseas board issue not ours we just need to concentrate.

 

[IMMY69]

Guys i dont frankly care about ipl and the scheduling ..we couldnt even beat england C team. The ipl clashes is the overseas board issue not ours we just need to concentrate.

The England T20 team was not their C team and we only narrowly lost that series

 

[Ab Fan]

Come on man. It is the money they are after. It's an open fact. No body cares about anything else. These players are after lucrative monetary deals. The only people who are going to suffer are actual cricket lovers. I don't mind T20 cricket but priorities over national duties is criminal. It should not be encouraged otherwise cricket will suffer over all.

Cricket won't suffer when the greatest white- ball cricketers will play against each other in a high profile T20 league and alongside them a number of young talented players, domestically and internationally both, will be helped as it builds a foundation for them and gain enormous confidence at a young age. The players who don't belong to highest level will anyways struggle to get into IPL teams as visible by the fact that Unmukt Chand just couldn't take his game to even IPL level after winning the U-19 World Cup.

One must understand that IPL is not taking place of Test Cricket or even ICC World Tournaments as Indian national cricket team will be an integral part of any world tournament that happens . However, there is no point for international T20s as it is just diminishing the technique of batsman all round the world and it looks quite disheartening by watching them showcase their poor techniques in Test Cricket.

 

[jusarrived]

I am a massive IPL fan, believe in long run will ensure cricket dosent lose talents to other sports thanks to the money it brings in .
That said we have to ensure players prioritize National team over franchise . ICC has to seriously think about a 3 month window in which all leagues should be played , so that it dosent conflict with international cricket

 

[Last Monetarist]

Good decision by the England players, the sooner this message gets drilled down the heads of administrators, the sooner bilateral cricket's revenue model will be fixed. Until that happens, one will witness more and more players happy to jettison international cricket.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Cricket won't suffer when the greatest white- ball cricketers will play against each other in a high profile T20 league and alongside them a number of young talented players, domestically and internationally both, will be helped as it builds a foundation for them and gain enormous confidence at a young age. The players who don't belong to highest level will anyways struggle to get into IPL teams as visible by the fact that Unmukt Chand just couldn't take his game to even IPL level after winning the U-19 World Cup.

One must understand that IPL is not taking place of Test Cricket or even ICC World Tournaments as Indian national cricket team will be an integral part of any world tournament that happens . However, there is no point for international T20s as it is just diminishing the technique of batsman all round the world and it looks quite disheartening by watching them showcase their poor techniques in Test Cricket.

International cricket is suffering because of pyjama leagues. If you still can't see that then you will never see it in the future as well. Your suggestion of stopping international T20s is funny too.

 

[Saj]

The problem is the PCB is not in a position to bargain with Boards regarding scheduling and which players are available.

At the moment PCB is just happy whether it's a full strength or C team going to Pakistan.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

It's not about quality but the monetary benefit they get from IPL.

A lot of players won't care if a club starts paying them millions.

True. This is the reason i lost my interest in following sports passionately. Why should fans lose sleep, discard their career/study to watch them play when my favorite players themselves are just paid mercenaries?

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Good decision by the England players, the sooner this message gets drilled down the heads of administrators, the sooner bilateral cricket's revenue model will be fixed. Until that happens, one will witness more and more players happy to jettison international cricket.

To be honest players were always like this. Karry Pecker in 80s is an example. I am not surprised players are skipping international cricket to play T20 leagues.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

The problem is the PCB is not in a position to bargain with Boards regarding scheduling and which players are available.

At the moment PCB is just happy whether it's a full strength or C team going to Pakistan.

I doubt PCB is that weak. Pakistan is the biggest cricketing nation after India.

 

[Last Monetarist]

To be honest players were always like this. Karry Pecker in 80s is an example. I am not surprised players are skipping international cricket to play T20 leagues.

Absolutely, and it took Kerry Packer to convince the ACB to take his deal which allowed international cricket to become financially feasible. Another similar revolution is needed to fix bilateral cricket.

 

[Saj]

I doubt PCB is that weak. Pakistan is the biggest cricketing nation after India.

No chance.

Australia, England etc well ahead of Pakistan.

 

[MenInG]

England 's players are set to play in the rescheduled Indian Premier League season, which will be held in the United Arab Emirates between September 19 and October 15.

The tournament was initially played in April and May, before a rise in cases of coronavirus within team bubbles forced the IPL to be shut down.

Given that the tournament has now been rescheduled, there were concerns over the availability of some overseas players.

England are scheduled to tour Pakistan for the first time in 16 years in October, with two T20Is due to be played in Rawalpindi on 13 and 14 October - the same time as the IPL playoffs.

However, it has been confirmed that the ECB will allow players to play in the IPL, meaning that they will likely skip the tour to Pakistan.

Chennai Super Kings CEO Kasi Viswanathan revealed that the ECB has "no objection" to Sam Curran and Moeen Ali playing for them instead of touring Pakistan.

"We have got a call from the IPL office and have been informed that the boards have no objection to their players' participation," he said.

"It is now up to the players. Our Australian and English players [Curran, Ali and Jason Behrendorff] are available."

Punjab Kings CEO Satish Menon also confirmed the news, stating that they will now get in contact with their English players, Dawid Malan and Chris Jordan.

"We've been told of the clearance," Menon said. "Now the team manager will contact the players individually."

England captain Eoin Morgan has already confirmed that he will play for Kolkata Knight Riders at the tournament.

Jos Buttler, meanwhile, is yet to make a decision on his participation for Rajasthan Royals, revealing that he has a second child due in September.

Speaking to Sky Sports, Buttler said: "I don't know, to be honest. My family life is due to change - we've got a second child due to be born in early September. So unless I want to get away from a few sleepless nights, I might have to be at home."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/england-ipl-pakistan-ecb-morgan-24761167

 

[rockyboy2018]

Last night the first time I saw Indian fast bowlers Bhumra and Ishant bowling to English batsmen after watching a couple of overs I boozed off to sleep. With all the hype around IPL producing awesome talent, I mean can't they produce some 90+mph bowlers. Seems like international cricket is going to be done and dusted. I was expecting really fast bowlers from Indian side not this ishant/bhumra types.

 

[Rana]

Genuinely can’t be arsed with cricket anymore

I thought the ECB rescheduled their visit to Pakistan earlier on so that they can send a full strength side before the T20 World Cup!?

 

[Mamoon]

Genuinely can’t be arsed with cricket anymore

I thought the ECB rescheduled their visit to Pakistan earlier on so that they can send a full strength side before the T20 World Cup!?

I did warn you that Giles’ chest-thumping meant nothing. No English player who plays in the IPL would sit out of the tournament just to tour Pakistan.

 

[MoJoJoJo]

A prominent news channel is reporting that England's full strength team will be touring pak after they put forward the query to an unnamed ECB source.

"As far as we are concerned, we will be planning for the Pakistan tour with a full-strength squad,” the source said, adding: “A policy on this is likely to be confirmed by next week."

 

[Saj]

There was no way the English players were going to put a 2 match series of Pakistan above playing in the IPL.

The ECB are keeping the PCB happy by touring Pakistan, but they probably told PCB in advance that it won't be a full-strength squad.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Pakistan should just stop touring countries like NZ, Australia and England. Instead, we should arrange more home games vs teams like SA, WI, SL, Ban and Afg.

If these countries can’t send their best players to Pakistan then why should Pakistan bring their best xi to theirs?

 

[Rana]

Why does IPL even have a window if international players are still going to miss international cricket anyways to play in it?

 

[Ashmal]

Pakistan should just stop touring countries like NZ, Australia and England. Instead, we should arrange more home games vs teams like SA, WI, SL, Ban and Afg.

If these countries can’t send their best players to Pakistan then why should Pakistan bring their best xi to theirs?

Not really...Pakistan should aim to beat whoever plays against them, it's not their problem that English/NZ/SA and other players don't value playing for their country.

 

[gazza619]

Not really...Pakistan should aim to beat whoever plays against them, it's not their problem that English/NZ/SA and other players don't value playing for their country.

Agreed. Not our problem.

But then again these B teams are good competition for us anyway. Win: Win

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Not really...Pakistan should aim to beat whoever plays against them, it's not their problem that English/NZ/SA and other players don't value playing for their country.

All ECB has to do is tell those players who have chosen T20 leagues over international games that they’ll not be considered for icc tournaments. If those players choose IPL over England then no big deal, England has PLENTY of replacements for players like Buttler, Stokes, Roy etc.

Also, just imagine if PCB sent their B team on a tour to England, im pretty sure ECB would just try to cancel the tour.

 

[Ashmal]

All ECB has to do is tell those players who have chosen T20 leagues over international games that they’ll not be considered for icc tournaments. If those players choose IPL over England then no big deal, England has PLENTY of replacements for players like Buttler, Stokes, Roy etc.

Also, just imagine if PCB sent their B team on a tour to England, im pretty sure ECB would just try to cancel the tour.

All I am saying that Pakistan should not get involved in this mess.

Its ECB's and other boards problem if they can't keep their flock together.

Pakistan should just aim to beat these B/C squads and if they can do it....pretty sure ECB would think twice before sending a weak squad next time unless they are content at losing.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Not really much Pakistan can do here to be honest. We all know its about the money in IPL. Us fans arent dumb enough to buy excuses about quality of cricket and preparation etc but we just have to accept these lies unfortunately.

Pakistan can try to win the T20 world cup to make everyone look foolish.

 

[Napa]

Wasn't it [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] who would keep telling us that BCCI was surviving on Australian and English handouts, and that English and Australian players would never be tempted by IPL money?

 

[hitthestump]

Pakistan should just stop touring countries like NZ, Australia and England. Instead, we should arrange more home games vs teams like SA, WI, SL, Ban and Afg.

If these countries can’t send their best players to Pakistan then why should Pakistan bring their best xi to theirs?

Because you don't start fights you have no hope of winning.

 

[hitthestump]

IPL over international cricket has been established - the question is how much further this goes?

How many years are we away from IPL "exclusivity contracts"?

Will we see the refusal to accomodate any foreign PSL players into the IPL?

How much bigger will the IPL window get and how many more teams?

Pakistan will never survive this unscathed.

 

[Rohan]

Not really...Pakistan should aim to beat whoever plays against them, it's not their problem that English/NZ/SA and other players don't value playing for their country.

Right. Pakistan should start beating B teams convincingly and with bigger margins so the respected boards will not even thinking of sending B teams anymore.

 

[Itachi]

All ECB has to do is tell those players who have chosen T20 leagues over international games that they’ll not be considered for icc tournaments. If those players choose IPL over England then no big deal, England has PLENTY of replacements for players like Buttler, Stokes, Roy etc.

Also, just imagine if PCB sent their B team on a tour to England, im pretty sure ECB would just try to cancel the tour.

ECB earns from IPL too. Why they should do that?

 

[Itachi]

Why does IPL even have a window if international players are still going to miss international cricket anyways to play in it?

Because IPL has become an equivalent (or more) compared to a international event in term of T20 cricket.

It could be called as international premier league (bar Pakistan) as of now.

 

[iniqbal223]

We are living in fool's paradise;
I would blame Misbah's way of cricket that has just killed all the excitement for the viewers
We have become boring team with very little success against B/C/D/E/.../Z teams

 

[PakLFC]

All I care about is Pak defeat the opposition whoever they are. Injuries or the IPL makes no difference to me who plays for England or anyone else.

 

[Rajdeep]

Biggest question is, why is England touring Pakistan and playing only 2 T20s? What kind of tour is this? LOL

Even Australia played 5 match T20 series in Bangladesh.

If anything Pak fans should get mad at ECB and not the IPL.

Pak toured Eng in the teeth of covid back in 2020, spend over a month in travelodge and played a full series there. PCB expected Eng will tour Pak too as a goodwill gesture but ECB gave only 2 solitary T20s and that too postponed it couple of times.

Whether main players are coming or not is immetarial as Eng has enough bench strength to beat Pak but PCB should never have agreed for 2 match tour anyway. This is demeaning IMHO.

 

[NishanKonar]

In 1997 India hosted a 4 nation tournament featuring Pakistan. Wasim Akram & Waqar Younis opted out to play county cricket

Everywhere cricketers have put money ahead of international cricket. IPL is no different. Pretty sure some Pakistani players wud have done the same if they were playing in IPL

No point outraging against IPL

 

[gazza619]

IPL over international cricket has been established - the question is how much further this goes?

How many years are we away from IPL "exclusivity contracts"?

Will we see the refusal to accomodate any foreign PSL players into the IPL?

How much bigger will the IPL window get and how many more teams?

Pakistan will never survive this unscathed.

IPL would get the big T20 names, but a lot of big teams have enough bench strength to be competitive. I dont think there is any risk to international cricket.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

In 1997 India hosted a 4 nation tournament featuring Pakistan. Wasim Akram & Waqar Younis opted out to play county cricket

Everywhere cricketers have put money ahead of international cricket. IPL is no different. Pretty sure some Pakistani players wud have done the same if they were playing in IPL

No point outraging against IPL

Yeah there is no point outraging against IPL. It can be hosted any time of the year and players have to make themselves available for IPL everytime. Anyway what is IPL doing in Sep-Oct? I thought they got their unofficial window in Apr-May? Why are they trying to hijack international cricket calendar by putting their contracted players in a pick and choose situation? I do not expect part time cricket fans to see these things though.

 

[Rajdeep]

Yeah there is no point outraging against IPL. It can be hosted any time of the year and players have to make themselves available for IPL everytime. Anyway what is IPL doing in Sep-Oct? I thought they got their unofficial window in Apr-May? Why are they trying to hijack international cricket calendar by putting their contracted players in a pick and choose situation? I do not expect part time cricket fans to see these things though.

The same thing that PSL was doing in June i.e completing the remaining matches which couldnt be finished in original slot due to covid.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The same thing that PSL was doing in June i.e completing the remaining matches which couldnt be finished in original slot due to covid.

How many players are leaving their international commitments to play in PSL, CPL, BBL, BPL?

 

[Rajdeep]

How many players are leaving their international commitments to play in PSL, CPL, BBL, BPL?

Thats the point. A player would only choose leagues that are quality and/or pays better than internationals. Only IPL fits the bill and hence they choose it over bilaterals.

Most player would choose million$ IPL matches over 2 random T20Is. Blame lies on PCB for ageering to play 2 T20s and then call it a series. Why you think Aussies send such a depleted side to BD for T20s? There was no IPL that time. Its bcoz international T20s dont have any importance unless its world cup.

If there were couple of test matches there, I am sure likes of Stokes, Butler etc would not skip it for IPL.

 

[NishanKonar]

People dont quit international cricket for CPL, PSL bcoz they dont get paid so much as IPL. If CPL paid million dollars per season - many wud quit international cricket for CPL ( including Pakistani cricketers )

IPL operates at a different level. If u get paid 5X your current salary in IPL - most cricketers wud chpose IPL over any random T20 series. Cricketers are not doing charity. They have families to feed & limited career shelf life. So most layers wud choose IPL and earn more money to save for post-retirement life Difficult for perpetual trolls to understand all this. They will keep whining about IPL

 

[NishanKonar]

Yeah there is no point outraging against IPL. It can be hosted any time of the year and players have to make themselves available for IPL everytime. Anyway what is IPL doing in Sep-Oct? I thought they got their unofficial window in Apr-May? Why are they trying to hijack international cricket calendar by putting their contracted players in a pick and choose situation? I do not expect part time cricket fans to see these things though.

IPL is hosted not for charity. Its hosted bcoz it has large tv audience, lots of sponsors + the best players are playing in it

No they wont stop IPL bcoz some perennial trolls don't like it

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

IPL is hosted not for charity. Its hosted bcoz it has large tv audience, lots of sponsors + the best players are playing in it

No they wont stop IPL bcoz some perennial trolls don't like it

Keep your arrogance aside for a second and then read my post again. I asked you what is IPL doing in Sep-Oct? International cricket is also not played for a charity.

IMHO IPL has surely given rise to cheerleaders and part time cricket fans who have less interest in cricket as a whole and more interest in boasting about its power and money infront of other countries fans. I bet you can't even tell who won IPL in 2014 without googling that's how much you love and follow IPL lol. It has given rise to those fans who have no loyalty with any team and choose 4 teams out of 8 as their favorites just to be on the safe side. )

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

People dont quit international cricket for CPL, PSL bcoz they dont get paid so much as IPL. If CPL paid million dollars per season - many wud quit international cricket for CPL ( including Pakistani cricketers )

IPL operates at a different level. If u get paid 5X your current salary in IPL - most cricketers wud chpose IPL over any random T20 series. Cricketers are not doing charity. They have families to feed & limited career shelf life. So most layers wud choose IPL and earn more money to save for post-retirement life Difficult for perpetual trolls to understand all this. They will keep whining about IPL

Killing international cricket will mean killing IPL in the long run. How hard is it to understand? Keep that pyjama league restricted to that unofficial window of Apr-May. Why does it keep poking its nose in international calendar and put players in a dilemma? You and others keep talking about players and their families as if you people give a damn about them lol. Real cricket fans want to see international cricket whereas part time ones are busy supporting 4 IPL teams out of 8 to feel good about themselves.

 

[Itachi]

Killing international cricket will mean killing IPL in the long run. How hard is it to understand? Keep that pyjama league restricted to that unofficial window of Apr-May. Why does it keep poking its nose in international calendar and put players in a dilemma? You and others keep talking about players and their families as if you people give a damn about them lol. Real cricket fans want to see international cricket whereas part time ones are busy supporting 4 IPL teams out of 8 to feel good about themselves.

If you love cricket truly, then you will love cricket in whatever form it may come.

National, international or gully cricket don't matter. The love for the game will carry the same instinct.

Because you prefer international cricket over other forms, it shows that you actually don't love the game but rather, you want a inter nationalistic system via international cricket only.

 

[NishanKonar]

Killing international cricket will mean killing IPL in the long run. How hard is it to understand? Keep that pyjama league restricted to that unofficial window of Apr-May. Why does it keep poking its nose in international calendar and put players in a dilemma? You and others keep talking about players and their families as if you people give a damn about them lol. Real cricket fans want to see international cricket whereas part time ones are busy supporting 4 IPL teams out of 8 to feel good about themselves.

IPL & T20 leagues are here to stay. U cannot stop them bcoz you dont like them. Its better for cricket to accept the reality and move ahead.

People said the same about Kerry Packer. They said it was pajama cricket. It will ruin test cricket & destroy the game. 44 years later cricket is still doing well

The issue here is how cricket boards adjust to the new realities. New Zealand is doing very good job in balancing IPLL, ODI & test cricket. Sri Lanka is struggling. Whose fault is it? IPL or the respective board ?

 

[someone21]

With or without IPL, the top English players wouldn’t have toured Pakistan anyways. So its not just about money even when PCB offers millions to these players to play in the country.

IPL is reliable in money, environment, and competition. That’s the attraction. And international cricket is to be blamed for its own shortcomings. Like with series like Aus vs BG, and how both the board & players dont take it seriously.

The fans need the same reliability and you get that with IPL, not random bilaterally series.

 

[BDfanforever]

Look at PSG they have Messi, Mbpape, Neymar, Ramos, Donnarumma. Best defenders, GK, and forwards you can possibly get at the moment.

This is why I never liked league football. Top clubs just buys off best players in the game. The lesser teams are just there as spectators.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If you love cricket truly, then you will love cricket in whatever form it may come.

National, international or gully cricket don't matter. The love for the game will carry the same instinct.

Because you prefer international cricket over other forms, it shows that you actually don't love the game but rather, you want a inter nationalistic system via international cricket only.

I bet you will love even T2 if BCCI ever starts a T2 league. Some people love to eat too but that doesn't mean they have to eat unhealthy, roadside trash to show their love for food. Same way too much of IPL is unhealthy for both Indian cricket and International cricket.

 

[Saj]

The days of players feeling they owe their Boards are gone.

Nowadays it's make as much money as possible, squeeze in some international cricket, then just play T20 leagues before retiring.

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]

Can you link me to that Ashley Giles thread?

 

[dildilpak]

The days of players feeling they owe their Boards are gone.

Nowadays it's make as much money as possible, squeeze in some international cricket, then just play T20 leagues before retiring.

Why should the players owe anything to the Board? Its the players who fund the salaries of the Board & infact, the Board exists because of the players & not vice-versa. More power to the money makers!

 

[Rana]

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]

Can you link me to that Ashley Giles thread?

I’m sure you can do it yourself

My advise is though, that you should not count your eggs before they have hatched

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

No one is going to prioritise travelling to Pakistan over riches of IPL. It is a no brainer.

 

[NishanKonar]

The days of players feeling they owe their Boards are gone.

Nowadays it's make as much money as possible, squeeze in some international cricket, then just play T20 leagues before retiring.

Exactly

The earlier cricket boards realize the truth & adjust accordingly - its better for them. Little point in blaming IPL. Cricketers ( like most humans ) will always follow the money

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Exactly

The earlier cricket boards realize the truth & adjust accordingly - its better for them. Little point in blaming IPL. Cricketers ( like most humans ) will always follow the money

Please tell us how should cricket boards adjust? Do you want to see 12 months of IPL or what? If you are watching the current Ind vs Eng series you would know what fans actually want to see. And I am talking about high quality international cricket. Your favourite pyjama league is going out of its unofficial window for the second time in an year and you are finding it normal lol.

 

[Babbar]

About possibility of exclusive IPM contract mentioned above, I believe it’s bound to happen in a few years. IPL teams may pay more (say 20-25%) to those players who agree not to join any other T20 league outside their home country. And that 20% extra IPL fee is more than what all other leagues say PSL, BD, SL leagues together can pay to a top player.

It will probably be restricted only to Marquee players, not everyone. And even players will be happy to reduce their work load outside their country and IPL while enjoying same income and more holidays.

 

[Babbar]

Please tell us how should cricket boards adjust? Do you want to see 12 months of IPL or what? If you are watching the current Ind vs Eng series you would know what fans actually want to see. And I am talking about high quality international cricket. Your favourite pyjama league is going out of its unofficial window for the second time in an year and you are finding it normal lol.

And guess what? These two teams - India & England have the most participation in IPL. So IPL surely is helping in making even Bilaterals more interesting as players have more to prove.

IPL could be up to 4 months eventually, still less than football, baseball, NBA seasons. Rest 8 months can be the time for bilaterals, world cups and holidays to enjoy the hard-earned money.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

And guess what? These two teams - India & England have the most participation in IPL. So IPL surely is helping in making even Bilaterals more interesting as players have more to prove.

IPL could be up to 4 months eventually, still less than football, baseball, NBA seasons. Rest 8 months can be the time for bilaterals, world cups and holidays to enjoy the hard-earned money.

So basically you want to see cricket revolve around India only and other countries should make their cricket schedules keeping IPL in mind? If that's not killing cricket then what is?

 

[NishanKonar]

Please tell us how should cricket boards adjust? Do you want to see 12 months of IPL or what? If you are watching the current Ind vs Eng series you would know what fans actually want to see. And I am talking about high quality international cricket. Your favourite pyjama league is going out of its unofficial window for the second time in an year and you are finding it normal lol.

Both test cricket & IPL can be high quality cricket. It does not have to either and or. Its only sad trolls who keep whining about IPL just like joker once mocked Kerry Packer's WSC as pyajama cricket. History today remembers Kerry packer as a visionary

 

[Babbar]

So basically you want to see cricket revolve around India only and other countries should make their cricket schedules keeping IPL in mind? If that's not killing cricket then what is?

No IPL schedule is decided in consultation with ICC and all other countries. It’s a win-win for everyone. Of course 1-2 nations will lose out, due to politics or jealousy. But ICC has taken, and will take, a decision that benefits cricket and the majority of its members. 1-2 disgruntled members will complain for some more time but that’s natural in a democracy. They can be thrown some crumbs once politics ease out.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Both test cricket & IPL can be high quality cricket. It does not have to either and or. Its only sad trolls who keep whining about IPL just like joker once mocked Kerry Packer's WSC as pyajama cricket. History today remembers Kerry packer as a visionary

You didn't tell me how should cricket boards adjust? Since you are acting like a visionary here it shouldn't be difficult for you to tell that. Also it's funny that part time cricket fans are calling real cricket fans trolls here.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No IPL schedule is decided in consultation with ICC and all other countries. It’s a win-win for everyone. Of course 1-2 nations will lose out, due to politics or jealousy. But ICC has taken, and will take, a decision that benefits cricket and the majority of its members. 1-2 disgruntled members will complain for some more time but that’s natural in a democracy. They can be thrown some crumbs once politics ease out.

Is that for IPL only or other leagues are also going to be scheduled in consulatation with ICC and all cricket boards?

 

[Ali_Pakistan]

Doesn't matter. They will still smash our mediocre team.

 

[Babbar]

Is that for IPL only or other leagues are also going to be scheduled in consulatation with ICC and all cricket boards?

Others don’t have aukat, class or deep pockets yet to sit opposite ICC and other Cricket boards to discuss schedule.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Others don’t have aukat, class or deep pockets yet to sit opposite ICC and other Cricket boards to discuss schedule.

See I wasn't wrong when I said pyjama league fans are arrogant and are more interested in power and money. This post of yours sums it up. You want everything to revolve around IPL.

 

[Babbar]

I am just a fan of good interesting world class cricket like it’s happening today on the ground. And it’s a test match. Yesterday’s match was also interesting and well- contested though the performance of both team left a lot to desire.

IPL just brings the stars of (nearly) every team together something no other tournament does, not even World cups where two-third of the matches are boring minnow-vs-minnow or minnow-vs-gun teams.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I’m sure you can do it yourself

My advise is though, that you should not count your eggs before they have hatched

The ECB has given permission.Players may yet skip it.But ECB has no problems. You thought it was funny when i said that decision to play in the IPL is way above Giles's pay grade.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

BCCI through its IPL is throwing millions of dollar and if players r ready to get sold, then blame the players not IPL. Its players who r willing to leave international matches to play in IPL. IPL isnt dragging them to play, its they who want to play.

 

[iniqbal223]

I am not sure if these tours will even go ahead With situation in Taliban

Still a lot of time ; but we will get to know when NZC start making that conversations