IPL is providing so much talent to India, PSL hardly doing anything for Pakistan: Danish Kaneria

[MenInG]

Former Pakistan spinner Danish Kaneria has heaped rich praise on the Indian Premier League, saying that IPL is a “professional” league that has produced many talents for Indian cricket. However, Kaneria believes that Pakistan Super League is hardly doing anything for Pakistan cricket and the “unprofessional” Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) have always hindered the chances of players who have performed well in the PSL.

"Being a very professional event, IPL is providing so many talents to Indian cricket. And it’s getting better and better with each passing season, while PSL is doing hardly anything for Pakistan cricket. If some player performs well in PSL, the unprofessional approach of Pakistan Cricket Board mars his chances of getting into the national side," Kaneria said.

The PSL, which was founded in 2016, is a 6-team league that works on the draft model where each team signs players in a draft in a different price range. On the other hand, players go under the hammer in the IPL auction mode, getting significantly more money than other leagues across the globe.

"See, there are no favourites in the T20 format. But if we talk about the combination, Chennai Super Kings and Mumbai Indians are good. There are two new teams in this edition, and you cannot take them lightly. IPL is a tournament in which all the cricketers want to play. You see, many players from South Africa took leave from their national side to play in the IPL. So this is turning out to be a big event every single year," Kaneria added.

The 10-team IPL 2022 season got underway on March 26 when defending champions Chennai Super Kings losing the campaign opener vs Kolkata Knight Riders at the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai. All the 70 league-stage matches of IPL 2022 will be held across 4 venues in two cities, Mumbai and Pune this year.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...or-pakistan-danish-kaneria-1930486-2022-03-28

 

[Sher Khan]

What does he mean if a player performs in PSL then the PCB mars his chances of getting into the national side? The PCB literally selects player only if they perform in PSL.

 

[gazza619]

Kaneria is unfortunately right.

Its actually bizarre. PSL is a launch pad for test comebacks (Shan Masood) and nepotism (Azam Khan).

A lot of talented people are still not getting chances because old horses like Kamran Akmal and Sohail Tanveer are still holding a spot. These guys would have been dumped by India 5 years ago!

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

BCCI uses IPL money in running domestic cricket as well organising those non profitable 'A' tours to various countries. Not sure if PSL is also doing that, but if they already are doing it will also help improving Pakistan cricket with time.

 

[realitygaf]

What does he mean if a player performs in PSL then the PCB mars his chances of getting into the national side? The PCB literally selects player only if they perform in PSL.

5 players not picked in psl or out of form in psl were picked for loi Australian squad while
Many inform players are not playing today

 

[proud_pakistani]

Ridiculous. Shadab, Shaheen, Fakhar, Haris Rauf, Mohd Nawaz are all products of PSL and more are coming through.

 

[silentkiller187]

Simple question one needs to ask is how many T20 accolades India has won since IPL conception. Without IPL india would still be a rich.

 

[Ab Fan]

He is right. Danish Kaneria is a man right from the straight heart.

One needs to understand that the IPL money generated is used to run all the domestic cricket and A tours that are organised, also it helps players provide a platform to go out and perform at the top level, Gabba result was a bi-product of the same.

The atmosphere that IPL creates makes players feel incredibly easier when they go to top level as they still remain calm and stubborn irrespective of any sort of sledge or bullying that the opposition is doing.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He is right. Danish Kaneria is a man right from the straight heart.

One needs to understand that the IPL money generated is used to run all the domestic cricket and A tours that are organised, also it helps players provide a platform to go out and perform at the top level, Gabba result was a bi-product of the same.

The atmosphere that IPL creates makes players feel incredibly easier when they go to top level as they still remain calm and stubborn irrespective of any sort of sledge or bullying that the opposition is doing.

What about WTC final? SA tour, NZ tour, ICC World Cups and CT lol? What happened there?

 

[Sherlock]

Yep, players like Shadab, Shaheen, Fakhar, Haris Rauf, Nawaz, Abdullah Shafique, Mohammed Wasim Jr all came out of thin air.

Poof magic

He should stick to spot-fixing stories or give a call to Salman Butt and knock their heads together.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Simple question one needs to ask is how many T20 accolades India has won since IPL conception. Without IPL india would still be a rich.

Well if you ask die hard IPL fans then they will tell you that IPL was never meant to find talent for India but OP is completely opposite of that. India hasn't done anything special in T20 format after the advent of IPL. The only WT20 we won was just before this circus started happening.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

BCCI uses IPL money in running domestic cricket as well organising those non profitable 'A' tours to various countries. Not sure if PSL is also doing that, but if they already are doing it will also help improving Pakistan cricket with time.

But where are the results? Why are we struggling to win in NZ and South Africa still? Why can't we win a global tournament? Why are our players choking under big pressure matches? We have only achieved some success in Australia. We used to win tests there before too and against much stronger Australian sides. However I do think that Rohit Sharma can change this pretty quickly and help India win a ICC tournament.

 

[Ab Fan]

What about WTC final? SA tour, NZ tour, ICC World Cups and CT lol? What happened there?

WTC Final conditions were favourable for NZ and Kane Williamson is a smarter captain than anyone from this generation and they won the toss too. So, NZ won that test.

World Cup 2019 again had favourable conditions for NZ. The game happened on next day and that just broke the rhythm and Indian batters were found wanting against kiwi bowlers in their favourable conditions. The pitch eased on later but Dhoni's 50 off 77 after coming to bat with required rate of 7.0 killed any chance that was created by Jadeja's masterpiece. Also he hid down the order leaving the hard yards to the 19 year old baby who was on his 2nd game. In IPL, same Dhoni would bat higher and win matches for his franchise. But here he hid below the 19 year old baby

NZ tour, again favourable conditions for NZ, swing friendly conditions is when NZ have an upper hand over India but wherever there is spin, bounce or flat road, India are a better team.

In SA tour, we lost because we were playing the TTFs, Pujara and Rahane and they don't play IPL. Jadeja was also missing which left a bit of hole as Ashwin showed us that he is incompetent in SENA conditions like 90% of the times.

World T20 was again due to losing the toss in both games on a pitch which got easier for batting with dew taking place. Also, there were poor selections in that series, guys who had failed in IPL that season were still picked and Yuzi was not brought back after good performances. Kohli also showed us during the IPL that he is good in the powerplays but was struggling to up the ante in middle orders and knowing that, the Indian TM made a mess by sending Kohli at no 4 in the New Zealand game. All these reasons exited India's chances.

Hopefully, sense will prevail now

 

[JaDed]

. Without IPL india would still be a rich.

Nope because now cricket is actually seen as a career for middleclass cricketers which wasn’t before.

Also BCCI invests that money back into domestic cricket structures like Ranji which have improved leaps and bounds due to the money.

Having said that agree on the aspect that it needs to be scheduled better and incentive to be playing in National colors hold more value(monetarily).

 

[Mean&Green]

Ridiculous. Shadab, Shaheen, Fakhar, Haris Rauf, Mohd Nawaz are all products of PSL and more are coming through.

Are you kidding me you guys are so deluded except for Haris rauf all the players you mentioned have played u19 and tons of domestic cricket so you’re wrong

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

WTC Final conditions were favourable for NZ and Kane Williamson is a smarter captain than anyone from this generation and they won the toss too. So, NZ won that test.

World Cup 2019 again had favourable conditions for NZ. The game happened on next day and that just broke the rhythm and Indian batters were found wanting against kiwi bowlers in their favourable conditions. The pitch eased on later but Dhoni's 50 off 77 after coming to bat with required rate of 7.0 killed any chance that was created by Jadeja's masterpiece. Also he hid down the order leaving the hard yards to the 19 year old baby who was on his 2nd game. In IPL, same Dhoni would bat higher and win matches for his franchise. But here he hid below the 19 year old baby

NZ tour, again favourable conditions for NZ, swing friendly conditions is when NZ have an upper hand over India but wherever there is spin, bounce or flat road, India are a better team.

In SA tour, we lost because we were playing the TTFs, Pujara and Rahane and they don't play IPL. Jadeja was also missing which left a bit of hole as Ashwin showed us that he is incompetent in SENA conditions like 90% of the times.

World T20 was again due to losing the toss in both games on a pitch which got easier for batting with dew taking place. Also, there were poor selections in that series, guys who had failed in IPL that season were still picked and Yuzi was not brought back after good performances. Kohli also showed us during the IPL that he is good in the powerplays but was struggling to up the ante in middle orders and knowing that, the Indian TM made a mess by sending Kohli at no 4 in the New Zealand game. All these reasons exited India's chances.

Hopefully, sense will prevail now

This post is full of excuses.

 

[Ab Fan]

This post is full of excuses.

Nice way to prove that no matter how much anybody explains, sense won't prevail or deliberately not let the sense prevail

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Nice way to prove that no matter how much anybody explains, sense won't prevail or deliberately not let the sense prevail

Just because you wrote a lengthy post full of excuses, it doesn't mean it is meaningful. Read the first line of first three paragraphs you wrote and then try to summarise the rest of the paragraphs with one word. All I see is an excuse.

 

[NeVerMind]

PSL has done more damage to Pakistan than good... We had a real match winners like Afridi, Razzaq and Azhar Mehmood when we didn't have this glorified hack-fest of a tourney...can't see one player from PSL that can compete with the heroes of the past...

 

[proud_pakistani]

Are you kidding me you guys are so deluded except for Haris rauf all the players you mentioned have played u19 and tons of domestic cricket so you’re wrong

Ofcourse but PSL fast tracked them into the Pakistan team. You can expect players to be launched initially from your premier t20 tournament.

 

[90MPH]

T20 cricket at best is good at identifying raw talent and this shouldn’t be overlooked.

But that’s about it really. I was never a big fan of 20/20 leagues to begin with as I grew up with international cricket and this will mean everything to me first however no doubt without the PSL it would have been very difficult to get foreign players to start playing in Pakistan.

Let’s hope whatever money is being generated is being invested back in.

 

[Saj]

My biggest concern would be not to rely too much on PSL talent and also to ensure that it's selected at the right time for the national team.

Too often we have been throwing players into international cricket based on a couple of PSL performances only for it to go horribly wrong.

 

[maqbool]

Everything will be clear in this years World Cup. Relax!

Rohit Sharma has lost his mojo in IPL, Kohli is not longer a force.. Indian cricket descending and Pakistan rising… wait and watch and save this comment for future callback.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

IPL is like an exhibition that promotes talents. But the likes of player whom India have got 'due' to IPL were actually found doing well in domestic by scouts or ex-players. None of them were just randomly picked up and voila they turned out great in IPL.

PSL needs to provide chances and experience to young talent from Pak domestic cricket. Look at PSL as showcase for domestic talents not something that improves it, no t20 competition is good way to improve your technique or game. At the most these competitions can do is reduce the divide between domestic and international cricket and remove the fear factor of a new talent to perform at international stage.

For eg. say 20 years ago, an Indian debutant would have been fretting to face up against Brett Lee or Shane Bond. But today these young Indians in IPL play with Boult, Nortje etc. so when they face up in international arena, they probably look forward to such opportunities.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Kaneria is unfortunately right.

Its actually bizarre. PSL is a launch pad for test comebacks (Shan Masood) and nepotism (Azam Khan).

A lot of talented people are still not getting chances because old horses like Kamran Akmal and Sohail Tanveer are still holding a spot. These guys would have been dumped by India 5 years ago!

Are the performers from PSL getting chances to play in intl cricket. They are nit getting selected in first place, even though if selected in squad they are warming the bench

Only Asif, Ifthikar continue to get chances after chances even if they fail

So in that case I would let Kamran and Sohail continue to play and rot in PSL

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Everything will be clear in this years World Cup. Relax!

Rohit Sharma has lost his mojo in IPL, Kohli is not longer a force.. Indian cricket descending and Pakistan rising… wait and watch and save this comment for future callback.

LOL India still can field a formidable lineup replacing Rohit and Kohli

they have got Gill, Samson, Rahul, Mayank , Iyer, Pant etc.

 

[maqbool]

LOL India still can field a formidable lineup replacing Rohit and Kohli

they have got Gill, Samson, Rahul, Mayank , Iyer, Pant etc.

IPL is a double edged sword, every tom dick and harry international player will gather intel about Indian players in IPL and use it against India. Plus Indians only play domestic T20 in India, other country players play all over the world. this puts India in serious disadvantage.

IPL is only good for Indian players to get rich, that’s all, this doesn’t convert to valuable international T20 experience which these players seriously miss out on.

So even though on paper India will be one of favourites, ground reality is that they are severely short on international T20 experience and will not win any ICC tournaments out of India.

 

[MenInG]

[VIDEO] Sourav Ganguly Lists 5 Players Who'll Make Big Name For Themselves In IPL

New Delhi: Former Indian skipper Saurav Ganguly picked five Indian players who, according to him, will make a big name for themselves in the years to come in the Indian Premiere League. Former BCCI captain surprisingly excluded players like Sanju Samson (Rajasthan Royals), Ishan Kishan (Mumbai Indians), and Shreyas Iyer (Kolkata Knight Riders) from the list.

Here is the video:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The countdown to the Indian Premier League is on, and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SouravGanguly?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SouravGanguly</a> has revealed his favourite young guns who will make the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TataIPL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TataIPL</a> bigger and better! <br><br>Who makes it to your list this year? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IncredibleAwards?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IncredibleAwards</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IPLonStar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IPLonStar</a> <a href="https://t.co/k786PYRGwc">pic.twitter.com/k786PYRGwc</a></p>— Star Sports (@StarSportsIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarSportsIndia/status/1629141718510768128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Sanju Samson and Shreys Iyers are regular players playing in the IPL for quite sometimes now, on the other hand irrespective of score double century in the ODI format Ishan Kishan could not make it to the list. While Samson and Iyer lead the RR and KKR, Ishan was the leading run-scorer for MI in the IPL last year.

Five youngsters that Ganguly picked that he believes will make a big name include the Delhi Capitals duo of Prithvi Shaw and Rishabh Pant, Chennai Super Kings opener Ruturaj Gaikwad, Gujarat Titans batter Shubman Gill, and Sunrisers Hyderabad pacer Umran Malik.

Apart from these 5 players he also included Mumbai Indians star Suryakumar Yadav and gave him a special mention. Though he agreed that, The-32-year-old is not too young but he presumes that he will make his big name.

After naming Prithvi Shaw, Rishabh Pant, Ruturaj Gaikwad, Suryakumar Yadav, and Umran Malik, Former Indian spinner Harbhajan Singh who was part of the show asked his former captain, "Dad, how about Shubman Gill?"

Ganguly immediately added him to the list and said, "Yes exactly, that's the name which slipped my mind. But I think my fifth player would be Shubman Gill. So, it's Prithvi Shaw, Rishabh Pant, Surya probably heads the list, Ruturaj Gaikwad, Umran Malik and Shubman Gill."

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...ipl-but-leaves-sanju-samson-out-watch-1071019

 

[MenInG]

Sanju Samson (Rajasthan Royals), Ishan Kishan (Mumbai Indians), and Shreyas Iyer (Kolkata Knight Riders) were excluded from the list by SG

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So are these players simply not good enough for T20s?

 

[Bewal Express]

Have I missed something because aren't these guys big names already

 

[jeetu]

T20 leagues is good for unknown player to play against international class players. Its especially good for bowlers who otherwise gets overlooked for years.