"IPL links won’t affect Pakistan players' involvement in The Hundred": Richard Gould

[rpant_gabba]

Yet the investors have valued the teams as they have.

and ECB officials are running around to the investors. Guessing its not a done deal

 

[Bewal Express]

dude, the 2024 SP 500 return was 25%. That means, 50m got you 12.5M return, you projected profit in 2032.

Not sure how this makes any business sense.

@Bewal Express @IMMY69 Am I missing anything here.

This smells to high heaven

In my humble These valuations are highly inflated. Cricket has a small market in the UK and the crowds are also relatively small, add the small TV viewing figures of a around 1/5mn per match( and that is on the high side)and I have no idea where they are coming from.On the other hand they have professionals working for them and they must know what they are doing. I just wish I knew what they know that I don't

 

[Cricket Warrior]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1906692456063644095

 

[HitWicket]

Getting blocked from getting involved in English cricket yet again really has sent the corrupt crook off the rails hasn't it.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Getting blocked from getting involved in English cricket yet again really has sent the corrupt crook off the rails hasn't it.

Yup. Its the potential investors who are crooks. Not ECB which would lie to play a shell game on what the league is actually worth.

If "The Hundred" is worth what you say it is, either assign a defined portion of the subscription fees to the league or separate it completely form ECB intertnational cricket.

No one with half brain will trust ECB.

 

[HitWicket]

Yup. Its the potential investors who are crooks. Not ECB which would lie to play a shell game on what the league is actually worth.

No, the crook is the guy who is literally on the run to avoid his criminal charges...

If "The Hundred" is worth what you say it is, either assign a defined portion of the subscription fees to the league or separate it completely form ECB intertnational cricket.

No one with half brain will trust ECB.

Having the rights bundled together is literally better for both the consumers and the ECB, there's no reason to separate them.

 

[rpant_gabba]

No, the crook is the guy who is literally on the run to avoid his criminal charges...

The investors who is taking a closer at the details before they plunk the money down are crooks?

Have the investors actually paid the money? if not, is Lalit Modi wrong?

Having the rights bundled together is literally better for both the consumers and the ECB, there's no reason to separate them.

Except the investors and thats why they haven't put the money down yet.

 

[HitWicket]

The investors who is taking a closer at the details before they plunk the money down are crooks?

Modu is a crook, Modi is not one of the investors, not sure what you're struggling to get here...? Modi himself valued the tournament at MORE than the combined bids for the 8 teams and has since backtracked on that after the ECB rightly palmed him off.

Except the investors and thats why they haven't put the money down yet.

The fact that the TV rights were part of a combined package with the international rights wasn't just known to the Investors before they entered their bids, it was completely public knowledge.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Modu is a crook, Modi is not one of the investors, not sure what you're struggling to get here...? Modi himself valued the tournament at MORE than the combined bids for the 8 teams and has since backtracked on that after the ECB rightly palmed him off.

Don't care about Modi as a person.

Have the investors put any skin in the game yet?

The fact that the TV rights were part of a combined package with the international rights wasn't just known to the Investors before they entered their bids, it was completely public knowledge.

doesn't mean jack. If this bidding has no real bite as Modi claims, which likely seems to be the case with ECB running around chickens wit their heads cut off, the impression I'm getting is this is Allen Stanford 2.0.

 

[HitWicket]

Don't care about Modi as a person.

Have the investors put any skin in the game yet?

doesn't mean jack. If this bidding has no real bite as Modi claims, which likely seems to be the case with ECB running around chickens wit their heads cut off, the impression I'm getting is this is Allen Stanford 2.0.

If you seriously think a company responsible for managing various billion dollar deals, assisted by one of the big 6 accountancy firms, has run a 9 figure auction process without putting any liability at all on the bidders if they withdraw based on information that was available to them prior to their bid, then you're even more deluded than you've previously proven.

Modi is a corrupt proven liar who has his ego hurt when the ECB rejected him, and has since thrown his toys out the pram. Believing a word that comes out his mouth is laughable.

 

[rpant_gabba]

If you seriously think a company responsible for managing various billion dollar deals, assisted by one of the big 6 accountancy firms, has run a 9 figure auction process without putting any liability at all on the bidders if they withdraw based on information that was available to them prior to their bid, then you're even more deluded than you've previously proven.

Don't appeal to authority bro. Thats plain weak.

I can play the same game : no one in the right mind would invest a sport that is dying in the country, one with a serious cost of living crisis, counting on very expensive subscriptions with no real way to assess what is their share of the revenue.

1% return for the next 5 years for the investors?

Modi is a corrupt proven liar who has his ego hurt when the ECB rejected him, and has since thrown his toys out the pram. Believing a word that comes out his mouth is laughable.

So why is ECB officlals flying to Mumbai? Why isn't that big 6 accountancy firms sorting it all out over teams call if all the information was there to see for the investors?

Face it, you have talked yourself into corner just the HE discussions.

Maybe the crook Modi recognizes the crooks at ECB?

 

[HitWicket]

Don't appeal to authority bro. Thats plain weak.

I can play the same game : no one in the right mind would invest a sport that is dying in the country, one with a serious cost of living crisis, counting on very expensive subscriptions with no real way to assess what is their share of the revenue.

1% return for the next 5 years for the investors?

So why is ECB officlals flying to Mumbai? Why isn't that big 6 accountancy firms sorting it all out over teams call if all the information was there to see for the investors?

Face it, you have talked yourself into corner just the HE discussions.

Maybe the crook Modi recognizes the crooks at ECB?

We're going in circles. In a few weeks time it'll get announced the teams have been sold for their auctioned price and this thread will go surprisingly quiet again.

 

[rpant_gabba]

We're going in circles. In a few weeks time it'll get announced the teams have been sold for their auctioned price and this thread will go surprisingly quiet again.

Your problem is not Modi or us going around in circles. your problem is reporting bu Nick Hoult

>>Multiple sources have said the deals are not done. One described the participation agreement wrangling as a “major issue” and that owners are “flexing muscles with ECB”<<

Meanwhile >>but sources at the board insist the deals are on track, that nobody is “on the verge of walking away” and that investors just want “security” because they are “putting so much money in”.<<

>>>It is understood owners have queried why the Hundred cannot be unbundled and sold separately to the highest bidder, which is how cricket-rights deals work in India.<<<

 

[HitWicket]

Your problem is not Modi or us going around in circles. your problem is reporting bu Nick Hoult

>>Multiple sources have said the deals are not done. One described the participation agreement wrangling as a “major issue” and that owners are “flexing muscles with ECB”<<

Meanwhile >>but sources at the board insist the deals are on track, that nobody is “on the verge of walking away” and that investors just want “security” because they are “putting so much money in”.<<

>>>It is understood owners have queried why the Hundred cannot be unbundled and sold separately to the highest bidder, which is how cricket-rights deals work in India.<<<

Nick Hoult who has done exclusive interviews with Modi in the past and was the journalist Modi ran to to give comments to when the ECB turned down his offer...? I wonder who his pessimistic source who thinks there's 'major issues' is...

 

[HitWicket]

The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is close to reaching an agreement with the new Hundred investors that will enable the governing body to retain control of selling domestic television rights while receiving the full £520m offered for the eight franchises.

ECB set to retain control over domestic TV rights in Hundred trade-off deal

The ECB is close to reaching a compromise with the new Hundred investors that will enable it to retain control of selling domestic TV rights

www.theguardian.com

Well would you look at that... The teams expected to be sold that at their originally agreed price with the rights to remain bundled and the only change being the pretty inconsequential fact that that the franchises will now be responsible for negotiating the foreign broadcast deal and sponsorships.

 

[rpant_gabba]

ECB set to retain control over domestic TV rights in Hundred trade-off deal

The ECB is close to reaching a compromise with the new Hundred investors that will enable it to retain control of selling domestic TV rights

www.theguardian.com

Well would you look at that... The teams expected to be sold that at their originally agreed price with the rights to remain bundled and the only change being the pretty inconsequential fact that that the franchises will now be responsible for negotiating the foreign broadcast deal and sponsorships.

Will wait for confirmation. Its a classic torygraph vs AlGuardian story lines.

Valuation kaers no sense whatsoever.

 

[rpant_gabba]

ECB set to retain control over domestic TV rights in Hundred trade-off deal

The ECB is close to reaching a compromise with the new Hundred investors that will enable it to retain control of selling domestic TV rights

www.theguardian.com

Well would you look at that... The teams expected to be sold that at their originally agreed price with the rights to remain bundled and the only change being the pretty inconsequential fact that that the franchises will now be responsible for negotiating the foreign broadcast deal and sponsorships.

Hundred investors force ECB onto sticky wicket over revised £975m deal

The ECB would forego voting control over its flagship new tournament but retain the right to unilaterally cancel it after seven years of a new commercial deal, according to a document seen by Sky News.

news.sky.com

>>>Another sticking point for the investors may be the inclusion of a clause that the ECB has the right to unilaterally terminate the Hundred competition after seven years.<<<

Serious who would be stupid enough to plunk down 500+ million for this?

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

ECB chief executive, Richard Gould, said following in a recent media talk:

"In terms of the India TV market, the overseas market is very important for us," "The fact that we have got such a wide-ranging set of investors from around the globe will, I believe, help us to add extra value to our overseas broadcast rights."

"In terms of availability to Indian players, that is not priced in with our plans. The BCCI's position has been very clear. At some point we'd love to see Indian players come and play in England."

Impact of IPL franchises in affecting the playing restrictions encountered by cricketers from Pakistan

"We're aware of that in other regions, but that won't be happening here."

"One of the advantages that we have with our set is that there's a connection there with majority of the other cricket leagues around the world," Vikram Banerjee said. "And for all of those [T20] leagues around the world, it makes little sense for any of us to clash if we can avoid it."

@mominsaigol this is precisely what I was telling you when you disagreed and it proves my point. Although in my opinion hundred is a low quality tournament.

 

[mominsaigol]

@mominsaigol this is precisely what I was telling you when you disagreed and it proves my point. Although in my opinion hundred is a low quality tournament.

All leagues are low quality compared to international cricket.

However leagues are still good for international exposure and it's a damn shame that Pakistani players aren't worth a damn in the 100