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How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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bones said:
This is a very good post - asking some sensible questions as I did as well.

My answer is - there's simply just no way for the US to succeed unless there is a massive escalation and even that won't be enough.

Option 1: Mobilize massive forces - the US would need more than 1 million soldiers and it would take then more than 1 year to get the logistics in place. Chances of success - slim given Iran is like Vietnam but on steroids. He doesn't have the public support for this either.

Option 2: Use a tactical nuke - I wouldn't put it past them given how badly they're doing. But chances of success are again slim because Iran has enough material to quickly put together a small rudimentary warhead together and launch on one of their missiles and attack Israel.

Option 3: Declare victory and leave. It will be considered humiliation to those who understand - but better this than option 1 and 2.
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I think the prospect of the world economy grinding to a halt if the US can't finish Iran quickly will see the Americans go for option 3. Trump likes to think he knows the art of the deal, so he was probably applying his dealer logic in a gamble that he could win big instead of being seen as an Epstein island loser.

The rest of the world has genuine business to run, and it's in danger of grinding to a halt if Iran doesn't take the bait.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I think the prospect of the world economy grinding to a halt if the US can't finish Iran quickly will see the Americans go for option 3. Trump likes to think he knows the art of the deal, so he was probably applying his dealer logic in a gamble that he could win big instead of being seen as an Epstein island loser.

The rest of the world has genuine business to run, and it's in danger of grinding to a halt if Iran doesn't take the bait.
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But the problem with option 3 is that he will probably have to make a huge number of concessions. Iran won't take his word on it either given they've been attacked twice.

Every which way you look at this - it's lose lose lose for Trump. Most of the independent analysts and formal diplomats are scratching their heads. How does Trump come out of this without it looking like a defeat?
 
globetrotter said:
You must be in your nappies.... you are comparing USS Abraham Lincoln with Pakistan or Iranian warships which sinks easily.... USS Abraham Lincoln is nuclear powere super aircraft carrier which is a mother ship surrounded by 60-70 warships including submarine.

Its i.possible to sunk USS Abraham Lincoln
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It's an asset worth $20 billion roughly. A floating war waging city.
If it is forced to leave hostile territory, the enemy has already achieved the objective.
 
globetrotter said:
You must be in your nappies.... you are comparing USS Abraham Lincoln with Pakistan or Iranian warships which sinks easily.... USS Abraham Lincoln is nuclear powere super aircraft carrier which is a mother ship surrounded by 60-70 warships including submarine.

Its i.possible to sunk USS Abraham Lincoln
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It's an asset worth $20 billion roughly. A floating war waging city.
If it is forced to leave hostile territory, the enemy has already achieved the objective.
 

'Mission Impossible': Why Iran can’t sink the 100,000-ton USS Abraham Lincoln​

The USS Abraham Lincoln uses multi-layered missile shields, escort destroyers, and electronic jamming to neutralise threats, making the 100,000-tonne warship nearly impossible to sink

90 Advanced Combat Aircraft​

The carrier hosts an air wing of nearly 90 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, including F-35C stealth fighters and F/A-18E Super Hornets. These fighter jets constantly patrol the skies to intercept hostile drones and aircraft. They act as a forward shield, neutralising aerial threats hundreds of miles away.

100s of Tracked Threats​

The accompanying destroyers use the Aegis Combat System, the most advanced missile defence shield currently active. It can track and intercept hundreds of incoming cruise and ballistic missiles simultaneously. This system routinely destroys hostile projectiles long before they can reach the immediate vicinity of the carrier.

3 Deadly Escort Destroyers​

A modern American aircraft carrier never travels alone into a hostile region. The USS Abraham Lincoln is protected by a dedicated Carrier Strike Group, which currently includes three heavily armed Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. These escort warships form an impenetrable defensive ring around the main vessel.

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100,000-Tonne Moving Fortress​

The USS Abraham Lincoln displaces over 100,000 tonnes and measures 1,092 feet in length. Powered by two nuclear reactors, it travels at speeds exceeding 30 knots. This constant, high-speed mobility makes it incredibly difficult for enemy radars to lock onto the warship in the open ocean.

100s of Jammed Frequencies​

To prevent missiles from finding their target, the carrier deploys EA-18G Growler aircraft for intense electronic warfare. These planes scramble enemy communication lines and blind hostile radar systems across the region. Without a clear radar lock, incoming weapons cannot accurately hit a moving target at sea

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50 Rounds Per Second​

If a missile somehow breaches the outer defences, the carrier relies on its own Phalanx Close-In Weapon Systems. These automatic, radar-guided Gatling guns fire 20-millimetre rounds at a rate of 50 per second. They create a dense wall of metal to shred incoming threats as a last line of defence

25 Heavy Armour Decks​

Even a direct hit is highly unlikely to sink this Nimitz-class behemoth. The ship is built with thick steel plating, 25 decks, and hundreds of individual watertight compartments. The crew is highly trained in damage control, sealing off flooded sections instantly to keep the vessel fully operational.

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(This is for the information of some pak posters who are still roaming in their nappies) 😄
 
This forum has become so Indian infested, it makes me puke. And it’s the worst kind of Indians. Can’t tell if it’s a Pakistani forum or Israeli.

Anyways, Trump is the most idiotic president in the history of the United States. His cabinet is full of idiots like him. It’s embarrassing how the US public voted dir him to be the president for the second term and it reflects on the education level of the masses.
 

Will blow up Kharg, desalination plants unless...: Trump​

Update on the Iran war:
US President Donald Trump shares a post on Truth Social on the when the war will end.

"The United States of America is in serious discussions with A NEW, AND MORE REASONABLE, REGIME to end our Military Operations in Iran. Great progress has been made but, if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be, and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately "Open for Business,' we will conclude our lovely "stay' in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil Wells and Kharg Island (and possibly all desalinization plants!), which we have purposefully not yet "touched.'

"This will be in retribution for our many soldiers, and others, that Iran has butchered and killed over the old Regime's 47 year "Reign of Terror.' Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP."

Middle East Expert, Waiel Awwad, on Monday, asserted that the ongoing war in West Asia is benefiting rich countries like the US, citing President Donald Trump's growing assets as evidence.

Speaking with ANI, Awwad said that Trump is prolonging the war to appease his billionaire associates and fulfill Israel's agenda. "You see, the problem is that the rich countries become richer in the wars and the poor countries become poorer. So you can see most of the countries all over the world, including the United States, people in the States are demonstrating against their government, against Trump, why he went for this war," he said.

"So basically, Trump is trying to please the billionaire club that he surrounded himself with. You could see his assets, how they have been increased. You can see that he has been doing whatever the Prime Minister of Israel tells him to do. So he's not finding any way out to come out," he said.

Awwad provided a significant counter-report to Trump's claims of military dominance. While Trump spoke of "knocking out" the Iranian Navy, Awwad cited reports from Tehran claiming that US Marines and commandos attempted a ground landing on Kharg Island (Iran's vital oil hub) and were captured.

Awwad warned that with the Easter holiday approaching, there are fears of a "dirty bomb" or a "false flag" operation designed to create havoc in South Asia and warned that the conflict may escalate, citing Trump's rhetoric and troop deployments

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psyoptica said:
This forum has become so Indian infested, it makes me puke. And it’s the worst kind of Indians. Can’t tell if it’s a Pakistani forum or Israeli.

Anyways, Trump is the most idiotic president in the history of the United States. His cabinet is full of idiots like him. It’s embarrassing how the US public voted dir him to be the president for the second term and it reflects on the education level of the masses.
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One of the reasons i spend less time here now. Way too many low quality Indian posters with an agenda against muslims and Pakistan. Its very concerning.
 
Not our war’: British PM Starmer says UK will not be drawn into Iran conflict

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said the United Kingdom will not be drawn into the ongoing conflict involving Iran, emphasizing that the situation “is not our war,” according to Mirror UK.

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Starmer reportedly stressed that his government’s position remains clear despite mounting regional tensions.

“It’s really important I reiterate where I stand and where this government stands because this is not our war. And we are not going to be dragged into it,” he was quoted as saying.

Starmer added that while the UK would act to protect its nationals and strategic interests, it would avoid direct involvement in the conflict.

“Yes of course we will defend British lives and interests in the region – we’ll stand by our allies in the Gulf region,” he said.

The prime minister underscored that his stance is rooted in principle, saying the government would maintain its position regardless of external pressure.

“But we’re not going to get dragged into it. That’s my values, that my principles and that’s what we’ve applied to our decisions whatever the pressure and whoever it’s coming from,” he added.

His remarks come amid growing international concern over the widening conflict and the potential for further regional escalation.

Source: Al Arabiya English
 
Devadwal said:
Honestly from last 3 days since IPL has started I don't Following this conflict. . time ni miltaa Bhai. Multiple sites se collaboration kar liya IPL betting ke liye ..

But after 11:30 .. I'll look about this as well. Right now extremely busy.

:kp
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stop lying you .... 🤡 🤡 🤡

you know Israel is getting a phainty and your trying to hide in your bunker now

even the native Israeli's want a stop on the war after getting battered
 
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Trump has completely lost it. All he cares about are the markets, and every Monday morning he posts something so the market can take it positively.

Iran has clearly denied any negotiations going on and they have also said they are not involved in Pakistan-led talks.
 
I highly recommend everyone watch this video of Professor Postol. You can feel and see the anger and disappointment in every point he makes. If you can't watch it all then at least watch the last 5 mins from 47:00 onwards.

The first 45 mins he goes into great detail on how devastating nuclear weapons are even rudimentary ones which Iran has the knowledge and capability of building if they haven't already.

He emphasises what all sane people know - Iran is winning or to put more accurately, the US and Israel have already lost and if a nuclear weapon is used then it's almost certainly Israel who will use it.

Please watch.

 
IAJ said:
Trump has completely lost it. All he cares about are the markets, and every Monday morning he posts something so the market can take it positively.

Iran has clearly denied any negotiations going on and they have also said they are not involved in Pakistan-led talks.
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He makes the **** up to move the market up and down so he can profit off the swings. Meanwhile his family has invested a ton of money in defence companies and need the war to keep going indefinitely so they can profit off that.

He’s immune to the prosecution thanks to the good ol boys in the supreme court, the Christian nationalist judges. He’s getting bribes, using insider info to trade, and being as corrupt (Trump coin, tech CEOs, Jared’s deal w the Saudis etc) as he can to enrich himself and hos family. He will issue blanket pardons to all hos family and friends who got rich on the American tax dollars. The man doesn’t care about anything but making money and staying out of jail because he loves banging kids
 
straighttalk said:
Proof is in the attacks and damage...their paid chowkidaar is afraid to come to the fight ..busy setting up mediation meeting that neither Iran nor Israel nor USA is attending
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yet you know nothing, thought you and the other sanghis @deltexas @Devadwal @globetrotter @Vikram1989 @Rajdeep @uppercut @Hitman were saying iran barely did any damage - now your saying thr a threat...... make some sense

love the jelousy on pakistan mediating and yet india prove that they are 2 faced backstabbers - yet again

pakistan has played this beautiful
 
A friend posted :
IRAN WAR : FACTS - Before the war started* Most Iranian oil sanctioned* Iran willing to do nuclear treaty* US military bases all across GCC* Strait of Hormuz fully function & free* Global supply chains robust and smooth ,
-Today , Second month of war* Most Iranian oil now free for sale* Iran will go ahead and build nukes* US military bases all across GCC dead* Strait of Hormuz now practically closed * Global supply chains can slow down & shrink .
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So , how much of a strategic victory this has been so far for USA & Israel ?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Wait so at one point you are extolling the fact that US has air superiority over the totality of Iran.

Now you are claiming US is unable to defend it's bases nd needs Pakistan?

This is senseless arguments bro, out of pure unfiltered emotion rather than any logic.
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No I'm talking about your allies Saudi with whom you have a defense treaty...us doesn't need the 93k surrendered paper army for protection..they can handle military objectives easy peasy...politically not so much
 
finalfantasy7 said:
yet you know nothing, thought you and the other sanghis @deltexas @Devadwal @globetrotter @Vikram1989 @Rajdeep @uppercut @Hitman were saying iran barely did any damage - now your saying thr a threat...... make some sense

love the jelousy on pakistan mediating and yet india prove that they are 2 faced backstabbers - yet again

pakistan has played this beautiful
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Who is saying Iran is not doing damage...ibahve always maintained Iran is getting obliterated militarily but hitting back economically and politically. Unlike your fake AI stories...we Indians can troll you but we don't deny the truth as we see it.

Look at my post ..I said hitting Israeli civilians don't achieve strategic victory ..they just kill civilians. Hitting oil and industry in Gulf countries and holding hormutz closed are startegic . We said us is winning the military war but losing the economic and political war.
 
Tale of two countries

Pak surrendered to Trump
Pak hired by Israel and saudis to be chowkidaars but irans power made them **** their pants.
Pak mediating a ceasefire..trying to protect whom we don't know.

Looks like they are betraying their ummah bros in Iran.

Pak still gets oil out of Hormutz...Iran recognizes Pak China Russia and India as friendly countries.


Now why is India considered friendly..when modi went to phaaderland and not doing any chowkidaari and daalali... Why is India doing nothing and yet getting oil..while Pak is selling itself out....food for thought ..ummah bros holding Hinduvta traitors at same level as paapis.
 

Destruction of vital US radar aircraft could hamper ability to spot Iran threats, analysts say​


The destruction of a US Air Force E-3 Sentry aircraft in an Iranian strike on a Saudi Arabia air base could damage US abilities to spot incoming Iranian threats at distance, analysts say.

Dramatic images of the wrecked aircraft, geolocated by CNN, show its tail broken off and its distinct rotating radar dome –– a critical part of the airborne warning and control system, or AWACS –– on the ground at the Prince Sultan Air Base.

The loss of the AWACS is “a serious blow to (US) surveillance capabilities,” said CNN military analyst Cedric Leighton, a former US Air Force colonel who has flown on the aircraft.

“It can potentially impact (US) ability to control combat aircraft and vector them to their targets or protect them from engagements of hostile aircraft and missile systems,” he said.

CNN has reached out to US Central Command for comment on the destruction of the aircraft.

The AWACS enables airborne monitoring of up to 120,000 square miles of battlespace from the ground to the stratosphere, and it has been a vital component of US fighting forces for decades. The fleet of 17 E-3s, and America’s experience using them over the years, is seen by analysts as a major advantage enjoyed by Washington.

 
emranabbas said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2038630675348337012
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Even though Britain said they will not join this war.... that font make any difference to US-Israel deadly combo.....

In past whenever US started any war UK immediately joined the war with US, but their participation/contribution was less. UK on their own didn't start any war.

This USA-Istael war have 50-50% contribution from them
 
Devadwal said:
Honestly from last 3 days since IPL has started I don't Following this conflict. . time ni miltaa Bhai. Multiple sites se collaboration kar liya IPL betting ke liye ..

But after 11:30 .. I'll look about this as well. Right now extremely busy.

:kp
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Dhando paylo......

Disclaimer : Guys pls note as we both are Indians Devadwal sometimes likes my post similarly I likes his.... there is no personal relations between us
 
straighttalk said:
Tale of two countries

Pak surrendered to Trump
Pak hired by Israel and saudis to be chowkidaars but irans power made them **** their pants.
Pak mediating a ceasefire..trying to protect whom we don't know.

Looks like they are betraying their ummah bros in Iran.

Pak still gets oil out of Hormutz...Iran recognizes Pak China Russia and India as friendly countries.


Now why is India considered friendly..when modi went to phaaderland and not doing any chowkidaari and daalali... Why is India doing nothing and yet getting oil..while Pak is selling itself out....food for thought ..ummah bros holding Hinduvta traitors at same level as paapis.
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Iran deals with both Pakistan and India because it's business and neither is hostile. Don't for a moment think Iran has forgotten or forgiven the treachery of India getting that frigate sunk.

The vast majority of Pakistanis support Iran. Do the vast majority of Indians support Iran?
 
straighttalk said:
Who is saying Iran is not doing damage...ibahve always maintained Iran is getting obliterated militarily but hitting back economically and politically. Unlike your fake AI stories...we Indians can troll you but we don't deny the truth as we see it.

Look at my post ..I said hitting Israeli civilians don't achieve strategic victory ..they just kill civilians. Hitting oil and industry in Gulf countries and holding hormutz closed are startegic . We said us is winning the military war but losing the economic and political war.
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Iran is hitting civilians? Grow up.

It is the US and Israel doing that, targeting universities, hospitals and schools etc. Something they have become experts at since Gaza.
 
emranabbas said:
Joker 🤡

Where are the Hindustani hiding after Haifa the indian asset was struck today

#haihimmat or are you scared of iran

https://twitter.com/x/status/2038553939554017758
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emranabbas said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2038590668768149656
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Devadwal said:
NOw I'm free but you're so shameless that still posting fake propaganda. .
Idiots this is from China 2017 videos, .

@The Bald Eagle entire Pakistan Fake propaganda is so shameless man ...chi chi chi.

😂😂😂😂😂😂
It just takes me one minute to exposed you.

ajao ab 1 hour free hu , ..exposed karta hu. ..

:klopp :kp
https://twitter.com/x/status/898172598743310336
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Jokers 🤡🤡🤡 China ki video tum Fake Propagandist ke liye Isreal ki hai ... Shameless

:klopp :kp
 
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Devadwal said:
Jokers 🤡🤡🤡 China ki video tum Fake Propagandist ke liye Isreal ki hai ... Shameless

:klopp :kp
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Stop crying attack on your indians assets by Iranians have happend your indian news channels are reporting so are al jazeera

And india have done absolutely nothing

Where is the #himmat

Hiding in the bunker lol

🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣
 
emranabbas said:
Stop crying attack on your indians assets by Iranians have happend your indian news channels are reporting so are al jazeera

And india have done absolutely nothing

Where is the #himmat

Hiding in the bunker lol

🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣
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Yess saarrr how Many times i exposed your fake propaganda still you're so shameless that posting fake propaganda again and again 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 idiots

:klopp :kp
 
Devadwal said:
I think Israel and the U.S. just hit the jackpot. That is a significant number of missiles taken out.

Cracked the missile city code.

We might see many more of these strikes on the other remaining missile cities soon.
If any IRGC members were inside, they are likely no longer with us.

:klopp :kp

https://twitter.com/x/status/2038789631953567996

https://twitter.com/x/status/2038784304533168232
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UPDATE: 🔴

U.S. forces struck a large ammunition depot in Isfahan, Iran, using 2,000-pound bunker buster bombs, a U.S. official told the Wall Street Journal. A high volume of penetrator munitions was used in the strike.

:klopp :kp
 
straighttalk said:
Tale of two countries

Pak surrendered to Trump
Pak hired by Israel and saudis to be chowkidaars but irans power made them **** their pants.
Pak mediating a ceasefire..trying to protect whom we don't know.

Looks like they are betraying their ummah bros in Iran.

Pak still gets oil out of Hormutz...Iran recognizes Pak China Russia and India as friendly countries.


Now why is India considered friendly..when modi went to phaaderland and not doing any chowkidaari and daalali... Why is India doing nothing and yet getting oil..while Pak is selling itself out....food for thought ..ummah bros holding Hinduvta traitors at same level as paapis.
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They will mediate for the US and Israel, just like they supported Trump’s Gaza peace mission that benefited Israel. :D
 
straighttalk said:
Tale of two countries

Pak surrendered to Trump
Pak hired by Israel and saudis to be chowkidaars but irans power made them **** their pants.
Pak mediating a ceasefire..trying to protect whom we don't know.

Looks like they are betraying their ummah bros in Iran.

Pak still gets oil out of Hormutz...Iran recognizes Pak China Russia and India as friendly countries.


Now why is India considered friendly..when modi went to phaaderland and not doing any chowkidaari and daalali... Why is India doing nothing and yet getting oil..while Pak is selling itself out....food for thought ..ummah bros holding Hinduvta traitors at same level as paapis.
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It’s simple, this comes down to our foreign policy and our relationship with Iran. On social media, some people take Iran’s side and others support the US, but in my opinion, Indians should remain neutral, just as the government does. We have maintained good relations with both Iran and Russia for a long time. No matter what Trump says, we shouldn’t bend and cut ties. At the same time, our government should not interfere or make statements on their issues.


Yes, Iran is ruled by rouge extremist rulers, they suppress and kill their own people similar to the Taliban, but that is not our problem, it is for them to handle internally. Even today, Iran allows our oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz because of our good relations.


On the other hand, the US is an evil and warmongering nation, not always trustworthy either particularly under Trump.
They act in their own interest and impose sanctions on countries that don’t align with them.
It is not our government’s job to take sides in this conflict or attempt failed mediations that mainly benefit the US.
We should stay calm; patience will win in diplomacy.
 
Indians have very smartly avoided openly taking sides even though everyone knows they are with Israel on this.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
What people on social media think is irrelevant. India should stay neutral in this war, as the government is doing.
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Social media people have a main character obsession.
Its often wise to to not to get pulled into chaos. Wise nations are staying the hell out of this. Iranian regime has been no saint either with their network of terror unleashing proxies across the ME. A showdown was necessary to bring a reality check to all parties involved.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
It’s simple, this comes down to our foreign policy and our relationship with Iran. On social media, some people take Iran’s side and others support the US, but in my opinion, Indians should remain neutral, just as the government does. We have maintained good relations with both Iran and Russia for a long time. No matter what Trump says, we shouldn’t bend and cut ties. At the same time, our government should not interfere or make statements on their issues.


Yes, Iran is ruled by rouge extremist rulers, they suppress and kill their own people similar to the Taliban, but that is not our problem, it is for them to handle internally. Even today, Iran allows our oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz because of our good relations.


On the other hand, the US is an evil and warmongering nation, not always trustworthy either particularly under Trump.
They act in their own interest and impose sanctions on countries that don’t align with them.
It is not our government’s job to take sides in this conflict or attempt failed mediations that mainly benefit the US.
We should stay calm; patience will win in diplomacy.
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Agree with you 100 percent ....smart non alignment. One thing to note is Russia is our ally and Iran is an ancient civilizTion..with whom we had relationship over centuries...I meant the actual Persians before islamist. It is great to see that India is buying oil from Russia irrespective of the bs that comes out of idiots.
 
bones said:
Iran deals with both Pakistan and India because it's business and neither is hostile. Don't for a moment think Iran has forgotten or forgiven the treachery of India getting that frigate sunk.

The vast majority of Pakistanis support Iran. Do the vast majority of Indians support Iran?
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I cannot do a poll and give you a definitive answer. Most of India is poor illiterate and uninformed. They don't care beyond the oil. If you look at our media godi media is completely anti usa but not anti Israel. Most educated Indians knows this is a unjust war killing thiusands of innocent Iranians....and it is always great to see a bully humbled and humiliated.
 
bones said:
Iran deals with both Pakistan and India because it's business and neither is hostile. Don't for a moment think Iran has forgotten or forgiven the treachery of India getting that frigate sunk.

The vast majority of Pakistanis support Iran. Do the vast majority of Indians support Iran?
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You mentioned people but definitely Indian govt is not doing any anti Iranian stuff..but your govt is hand in gloves in trying to mediate on behalf of Trump and being the official chowkidaar of Israel and saudis
 
bones said:
Iran is hitting civilians? Grow up.

It is the US and Israel doing that, targeting universities, hospitals and schools etc. Something they have become experts at since Gaza.
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Both countries are hitting civilians but USA attacks are military focused and Israel hit wherever irgc or basin hides..and they are hiding in civilian areas. However Iran attacks on iseael have been mostly on civilian areas because they can't targer miltiary
Howeve their attacks on gcc have been very strategic and have also such military units of USA and impacted oil and other financial stuff. So there they are performing well..
 
This war of attrition only has one logical outcome if the US and Israel remain committed.

As spectacular as Iran's response has been, something for which we have earned global recognition as a true civiliational force, the fact is that we are getting weaker every day taking hits on major infrastructure and institutions. The longer this war goes, the worse it will be for us.

USA is down roughly 40 trillion dollars in debt. Add a couple of trillions to it on account of a major war, it won't make a difference to them. They are the #1 economy in the world and hold high cards to steer their economy. We on the other hand are disconnected from global economy at large. Our two major partners China and Russia are supportive but it will take years to rebuild. The US is showing no signs of backing off and running away as much as we love to laugh about it. They are taking the Ls but continuing to pump more money into this war. We can outdo them in sheer passion and bravery but ultimately we cannot outspend them.
 
straighttalk said:
Tale of two countries

Pak surrendered to Trump
Pak hired by Israel and saudis to be chowkidaars but irans power made them **** their pants.
Pak mediating a ceasefire..trying to protect whom we don't know.

Looks like they are betraying their ummah bros in Iran.

Pak still gets oil out of Hormutz...Iran recognizes Pak China Russia and India as friendly countries.


Now why is India considered friendly..when modi went to phaaderland and not doing any chowkidaari and daalali... Why is India doing nothing and yet getting oil..while Pak is selling itself out....food for thought ..ummah bros holding Hinduvta traitors at same level as paapis.
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Majority posters can't stand the military leadership or the politicians yet you somehow Pakistan lives rent free in your head
 
Devadwal said:
Muslims are fighting against Muslims, US/ Isreal is only catalyst here.
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Indians are not fighters they better at doing a cheerleader job like you or dancing like modi

They couldn't fight the Muslim mougals or the british either in their own country they better doing slavery.
 
straighttalk said:
Both countries are hitting civilians but USA attacks are military focused and Israel hit wherever irgc or basin hides..and they are hiding in civilian areas. However Iran attacks on iseael have been mostly on civilian areas because they can't targer miltiary
Howeve their attacks on gcc have been very strategic and have also such military units of USA and impacted oil and other financial stuff. So there they are performing well..
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Where is your evidence of this?
 
Qatar suspends visa-on- arrival for Pakistanis amid middle east conflict

Khaleej Times
😄 🤣 😂
This is backslash from Qatar on Pakistan's backstabing on Saudis. Pakistan not helped Saudi Arabia despite signing defense pact and Pakistani posters in nappies blaming India for everything
 
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