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US and Israel planning ground attack on Iran which is already on the verge of defeat... withing 15 days Iran is surrendering.... Iran's name will be changed to Persia....

India's jamai J D Vance will be the next PM of Persia
 
globetrotter said:
US and Israel planning ground attack on Iran which is already on the verge of defeat... withing 15 days Iran is surrendering.... Iran's name will be changed to Persia....

India's jamai J D Vance will be the next PM of Persia
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What a delusional troll! Bewakoofi ki hadd paar kar di hai isnay.
 
globetrotter said:
Which is good at least we didn't backstabbed any country after signing defense pact
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Nobody backstabbed anyone. Pakistan calm the situation because it has close ties with both Saudi Arabia and Iran,

You're just bitter that Saudi Arabia listened to Pakistan's advice while India is no longer being taken seriously after its humiliating defeat against Pakistan last May

now all the rondoo india can do is cry and feel jelous like an idiot, even Russia stopped your oil discounts and Iran are charging you in yuan to let you pass though strait of hormuz and you have LPG crises India as well as economy falling and rupee losing value

what a humiliation for Indians lol
 
I saw this on another forum but thought it was a brilliant summary.

Before the war:
1) Iran didn't control the Strait of Hormuz, now it does.
2) Iran oil was sanctioned for 47 years, now it's not.
3) Russian oil was sanctioned for 7 years, now it's not.
4) Iran was not building a nuke, now it is.
5) US military bases in the Gulf were assets, now they are liabilities.
6) Inflation was declining, now it is increasing.
7) Oil was $60p/b, now it is $120p/b.
8) An Ayotollah was in charge - now his hardline son is in charge.

But many of our Indian friends here and around the world think Iran is still losing and America/Israel are winning because they're throwing hundreds of bombs.
 
Just to add a few more points:

Before the war:
1) Iran didn't control the Strait of Hormuz, now it does.
2) Iran oil was sanctioned for 47 years, now it's not.
3) Russian oil was sanctioned for 7 years, now it's not.
4) Iran was not building a nuke, now it is.
5) US military bases in the Gulf were assets, now they are liabilities.
6) Inflation was declining, now it is increasing.
7) Oil was $60p/b, now it is $120p/b.
8) An Ayotollah was in charge - now his hardline son is in charge.


9) NATO allies have rejected to offer help.
10) Countries are dealing directly with Iran - bypassing America.
11) No one is interested in US interceptors - everyone is copying the Iranian Shahed drones.
12) The GCC was a go to destination - now they are on everyone's avoid list.

But many of our Indian friends here and around the world think Iran is still losing and America/Israel are winning because they're throwing hundreds of bombs.
 
bones said:
I saw this on another forum but thought it was a brilliant summary.

Before the war:
1) Iran didn't control the Strait of Hormuz, now it does.
2) Iran oil was sanctioned for 47 years, now it's not.
3) Russian oil was sanctioned for 7 years, now it's not.
4) Iran was not building a nuke, now it is.
5) US military bases in the Gulf were assets, now they are liabilities.
6) Inflation was declining, now it is increasing.
7) Oil was $60p/b, now it is $120p/b.
8) An Ayotollah was in charge - now his hardline son is in charge.

But many of our Indian friends here and around the world think Iran is still losing and America/Israel are winning because they're throwing hundreds of bombs.
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your forget point 9 and 10

9) Indians were delusional they thought they hold some position in world talks but been ignored by every country
10) operation sindoor was fail because of that failure Pakistan hold more value in the world compared to India
 
bones said:
Just to add a few more points:

Before the war:
1) Iran didn't control the Strait of Hormuz, now it does.
2) Iran oil was sanctioned for 47 years, now it's not.
3) Russian oil was sanctioned for 7 years, now it's not.
4) Iran was not building a nuke, now it is.
5) US military bases in the Gulf were assets, now they are liabilities.
6) Inflation was declining, now it is increasing.
7) Oil was $60p/b, now it is $120p/b.
8) An Ayotollah was in charge - now his hardline son is in charge.


9) NATO allies have rejected to offer help.
10) Countries are dealing directly with Iran - bypassing America.
11) No one is interested in US interceptors - everyone is copying the Iranian Shahed drones.
12) The GCC was a go to destination - now they are on everyone's avoid list.

But many of our Indian friends here and around the world think Iran is still losing and America/Israel are winning because they're throwing hundreds of bombs.
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Is Irsn owns Hormuz strait? If yes show the agreement... if Iran thinks it has right over Hormuz strait the UAE and Oman also have equal right on Hormuz strait.... Iran's blackmailing on Hormuz strait is unacceptable.

There is a clear rift between Shia vs Sunni nations
 
globetrotter said:
Is Irsn owns Hormuz strait? If yes show the agreement... if Iran thinks it has right over Hormuz strait the UAE and Oman also have equal right on Hormuz strait.... Iran's blackmailing on Hormuz strait is unacceptable.

There is a clear rift between Shia vs Sunni nations
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show me agreement the Zionist own Israel 🤡
 
bones said:
Where is your evidence of this?
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Because there is no evidence to the contrary. We see iron dome breached...we saw attacks on cities and the refinery and one attack on a town close to their nuke site. But military attacks evidence is low. Unlike say damages to us military assets on Gulf countries..those are available.

And no censorship doesn't apply....if damage happens it's available. Look at paks attack on afghansitan...evidence available. Indias attack on Paksitan...evidence available. Irans attack on gcc and us bases..evidence available. Irans attack on Israeli civilian areas- evidence available. Irans damage to Israeli assets...not available. Pak damages to Indian airbasses etc - evidence not available.
 
IMMY69 said:
Majority posters can't stand the military leadership or the politicians yet you somehow Pakistan lives rent free in your head
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I dunno about majority posters...but no miltiary survives without people's support. The military represents Pakistan..like it or not. You have posters supporting imran Khana imprisonment and felicitations a failed general as field marshall. As for rent free ....it's more of a observation..as long as Pak doesn't sponsor terrorism in my country...I have zero issues with Pakistan.
 
IRGC Threatens U.S. Companies

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards have warned they will target the operations of several major U.S. and international firms in the region starting April 1, in retaliation for actions against Iran.

Companies named:

Apple
Boeing
Cisco
Dell
G42
General Electric
Google
HP
IBM
Intel
JPMorgan
Meta
Microsoft
Nvidia
Oracle
Palantir
Spire Solutions
Tesla

Full support to Iran if they Target These company.

:klopp :kp
 
straighttalk said:
I dunno about majority posters...but no miltiary survives without people's support. The military represents Pakistan..like it or not. You have posters supporting imran Khana imprisonment and felicitations a failed general as field marshall. As for rent free ....it's more of a observation..as long as Pak doesn't sponsor terrorism in my country...I have zero issues with Pakistan.
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1. Military leadership
2. Majority of Pp'ers
 
straighttalk said:
Who is saying Iran is not doing damage...ibahve always maintained Iran is getting obliterated militarily but hitting back economically and politically. Unlike your fake AI stories...we Indians can troll you but we don't deny the truth as we see it.

Look at my post ..I said hitting Israeli civilians don't achieve strategic victory ..they just kill civilians. Hitting oil and industry in Gulf countries and holding hormutz closed are startegic . We said us is winning the military war but losing the economic and political war.
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you indians can troll, are you ok, considering the whole world knows your just dumb and cheap labour,

your second pont, means nothing hence no journalist is saying that, try to read better (y)
 
straighttalk said:
You mentioned people but definitely Indian govt is not doing any anti Iranian stuff..but your govt is hand in gloves in trying to mediate on behalf of Trump and being the official chowkidaar of Israel and saudis
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Straight BS never stops.

Why Iran has attacked almost every country that has US links in Gulf but Pak is never a target despite doing Dalali for trump according to you? Logic has left room

why Iranian ambassdaor has Thanked Pak today for its effort? whether they agree or not to CF is different matter altogether

While Sanghis cant decide whose side they are

Some Sanghis Celebrate Phainti of Iran on this very thread

and Some Sangis tell us Iran is too powerful for Pak to protect KSA

make up your minds
 
The most funny Thing about this whole Conflict has been Indian Bitterness about Pak trying to Mediate and Stop the war as if its against India or Indian Interests

They keep telling us Its above Pakistan's Paygrade. Im just not sure if they are telling Pakistanis or Reminding themselves that its Beyond Pak's Auqaat. because last time i checked Pakistan never asked for Indian Seal of Approval for such attempts

Sawal b khud poch rhe , Jawab bhi khud day rhe
 
emranabbas said:
Trump doing a u-turn after failing to do a regime change 🤡

https://twitter.com/x/status/2039100753252601992
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Failing to open Hormuz as well

Goal post has shifted

US does nt need Hormuz for oil. Any country who needs it can handle it themselves , a jibe taken at Neutral Nato Allies

Trump has poured kerosine oil , Lit up the region and Handing over the water hose to its allies

Never seen biggest clown in US history. Eipstien files did him dirty
 
President Donald Trump says Iran is "losing" and "begging to make a deal" as he suggests the US will "leave" the country in "two or three weeks".

Speaking in the Oval Office, Trump says a deal with Iran is "irrelevant" and the US will leave when it is certain the regime cannot build a nuclear weapon "for years".

Earlier, Trump lashed out at the UK and other countries, telling them to "go get your own oil" from the Strait of Hormuz.

"You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself, the USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us," he writes in a Truth Social post.


BBC
 
Cricket Warrior said:
President Donald Trump says Iran is "losing" and "begging to make a deal" as he suggests the US will "leave" the country in "two or three weeks".

Speaking in the Oval Office, Trump says a deal with Iran is "irrelevant" and the US will leave when it is certain the regime cannot build a nuclear weapon "for years".

Earlier, Trump lashed out at the UK and other countries, telling them to "go get your own oil" from the Strait of Hormuz.

"You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself, the USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us," he writes in a Truth Social post.


BBC
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Trumpender Surrender? :yk :inti
 
Cricket Warrior said:
President Donald Trump says Iran is "losing" and "begging to make a deal" as he suggests the US will "leave" the country in "two or three weeks".

Speaking in the Oval Office, Trump says a deal with Iran is "irrelevant" and the US will leave when it is certain the regime cannot build a nuclear weapon "for years".

Earlier, Trump lashed out at the UK and other countries, telling them to "go get your own oil" from the Strait of Hormuz.

"You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself, the USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us," he writes in a Truth Social post.


BBC
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What you called the country lost its 100% navy, lost 65% of its missiles firing capacity... 60% destruction of its infrastructure and many important installations.

Thats why Trump claiming victory
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
The most funny Thing about this whole Conflict has been Indian Bitterness about Pak trying to Mediate and Stop the war as if its against India or Indian Interests

They keep telling us Its above Pakistan's Paygrade. Im just not sure if they are telling Pakistanis or Reminding themselves that its Beyond Pak's Auqaat. because last time i checked Pakistan never asked for Indian Seal of Approval for such attempts

Sawal b khud poch rhe , Jawab bhi khud day rhe
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And your bitterness towards India as pak posters unnecessarily dragging India, Sanghis, BJP, Modiji etc as you India already stays at neutral position in current war
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Self Asked question by Indians

why are we missing out in Mediation talks?

Answered by Themselves

We are not dalal nation

😅😅😅

Sanghis Creating own bubble
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You are missing one important point that this mess is created by Pakistan leadership therefore onus lies on them to clear the same thru mediation. Who told them to dance before Trump at Palestine gala? Who asked Pakistan leadership to flatter Trum to award him global "piece" award?

Despite offering mediation role, the Pakistan leadership run to its fatherland China for help 😄
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Straight BS never stops.

Why Iran has attacked almost every country that has US links in Gulf but Pak is never a target despite doing Dalali for trump according to you? Logic has left room

why Iranian ambassdaor has Thanked Pak today for its effort? whether they agree or not to CF is different matter altogether

While Sanghis cant decide whose side they are

Some Sanghis Celebrate Phainti of Iran on this very thread

and Some Sangis tell us Iran is too powerful for Pak to protect KSA

make up your minds
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Sanghis are not a single entity...everyone can form their own opinions. Iranian ambassador has thanked India too..they will try to thank anyone not remotely associated with the war.
 
globetrotter said:
And your bitterness towards India as pak posters unnecessarily dragging India, Sanghis, BJP, Modiji etc as you India already stays at neutral position in current war
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who started it?

Did Pak ask your media and Opposition to ask questions to BJP why India was nt part of Mediation process?

Your laser Eye got eye offended for what ? Sawal tmhra media ne pocha and gali pak ko 🤣

Clapping
 
globetrotter said:
You are missing one important point that this mess is created by Pakistan leadership therefore onus lies on them to clear the same thru mediation. Who told them to dance before Trump at Palestine gala? Who asked Pakistan leadership to flatter Trum to award him global "piece" award?

Despite offering mediation role, the Pakistan leadership run to its fatherland China for help 😄
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Mess created by Pak?

LOL

what does india have to do with all of that? You are neutral as per you so stay neutral

We did nt ask for your validation about this whole thing did we?
 
straighttalk said:
Sanghis are not a single entity...everyone can form their own opinions. Iranian ambassador has thanked India too..they will try to thank anyone not remotely associated with the war.
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so whats your point ?

Iran is nt calling us Enemy exactly like you want to paint it. They can thank You Million times. what difference that will make to Pakistan?

Whatever Mediation / Message remittance Pak has done , It is Pak's own Diplomatic mission that has nothing to do with India

It fails or succeeds , thats for later but we do not need lecture on how whole of India feels about it. We dnt even bother about it.
India reacting to Pakistan’s mediation role while pretending to be above it is like a teenager denied entry to the grown ups party, then standing outside all night trying to convince everyone the host is lame
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
so whats your point ?

Iran is nt calling us Enemy exactly like you want to paint it. They can thank You Million times. what difference that will make to Pakistan?

Whatever Mediation / Message remittance Pak has done , It is Pak's own Diplomatic mission that has nothing to do with India

It fails or succeeds , thats for later but we do not need lecture on how whole of India feels about it. We dnt even bother about it.
India reacting to Pakistan’s mediation role while pretending to be above it is like a teenager denied entry to the grown ups party, then standing outside all night trying to convince everyone the host is lame
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Why are you wasting time with Indians when the world at large ignores them when it comes to geopolitics. We are busy engaging with major world powers right now and have no time for Endians.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
so whats your point ?

Iran is nt calling us Enemy exactly like you want to paint it. They can thank You Million times. what difference that will make to Pakistan?

Whatever Mediation / Message remittance Pak has done , It is Pak's own Diplomatic mission that has nothing to do with India

It fails or succeeds , thats for later but we do not need lecture on how whole of India feels about it. We dnt even bother about it.
India reacting to Pakistan’s mediation role while pretending to be above it is like a teenager denied entry to the grown ups party, then standing outside all night trying to convince everyone the host is lame
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Ummm you mean more like a teenager enjoying their own party rather than trying to get into a 50 something snooze fest....we are not jealous..we are just having fun at this self appointed efforts...no talks took place leave alone in Islamabad yet..you all published a five point plan which neither USA Iran or Israel signed up for...only thing confirmed so far is that you are one among many countries serving as messenger boys
 
straighttalk said:
Ummm you mean more like a teenager enjoying their own party rather than trying to get into a 50 something snooze fest....we are not jealous..we are just having fun at this self appointed efforts...no talks took place leave alone in Islamabad yet..you all published a five point plan which neither USA Iran or Israel signed up for...only thing confirmed so far is that you are one among many countries serving as messenger boys
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so why do you feel the need to tell us this? we are nt excatly asking you how are we doing
 
straighttalk said:
Ummm you mean more like a teenager enjoying their own party rather than trying to get into a 50 something snooze fest....we are not jealous..we are just having fun at this self appointed efforts...no talks took place leave alone in Islamabad yet..you all published a five point plan which neither USA Iran or Israel signed up for...only thing confirmed so far is that you are one among many countries serving as messenger boys
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Whether Israel and Iran actually accept the five-point plan or not, Indian news channels seem more upset about it than anyone else.

Indians keep flooding Pakistani forums, complaining and moaning about it.

It doesn’t look like Indians are enjoying themselves at all it looks more like they are frustrated, while Pakistanis are still wondering why they are frustrated and no indian can answer why they are frustrated

The funny part is that Pakistan’s mediation effort was never even a huge topic inside Pakistan.

From day one, it was Indian channels and users on this forum who kept hyping it up, talking about it nonstop, and then getting angry about it themselves.
 
straighttalk said:
Because we are in a discussion forum...if it was just posting and no discussion then so be it
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its just not this forum. Indians have infested social Media with same rhetoric . Indian media has extensively discussed about Diplomatic efforts of Pakistan which never pertained to India , Yet Indians like you behave as if we need Indian permission to undertake any diploamtic effort. and if we fail , you will have sacthing review for us. Acting like a critic whose opinion or review was never sought
 
emranabbas said:
Whether Israel and Iran actually accept the five-point plan or not, Indian news channels seem more upset about it than anyone else.

Indians keep flooding Pakistani forums, complaining and moaning about it.

It doesn’t look like Indians are enjoying themselves at all it looks more like they are frustrated, while Pakistanis are still wondering why they are frustrated and no indian can answer why they are frustrated

The funny part is that Pakistan’s mediation effort was never even a huge topic inside Pakistan.

From day one, it was Indian channels and users on this forum who kept hyping it up, talking about it nonstop, and then getting angry about it themselves.
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100%
 
straighttalk said:
Because we are in a discussion forum...if it was just posting and no discussion then so be it
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But you indians are moaning about and obsessed about the topic when its never been a big thing in Pakistan WHY?

I can post at least 20 clips of your mainstream media moaning about it and 100 posts by you indians on this forum while pakistani media barely mentioning it

So like why are you indians forcefully involving yourselves and then getting frustrated about it?

Is it to seek attention or something?

What is it?

Can you show me any clip of mainstream Pakistani media mentioning india first in this matter?
 
emranabbas said:
But you indians are moaning about and obsessed about the topic when its never been a big thing in Pakistan WHY?

I can post at least 20 clips of your mainstream media moaning about it and 100 posts by you indians on this forum while pakistani media barely mentioning it

So like why are you indians forcefully involving yourselves and then getting frustrated about it?

Is it to seek attention or something?

What is it?

Can you show me any clip of mainstream Pakistani media mentioning india first in this matter?
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or Pakistan belittling India because India is nt part of the effort for Indians to get triggered? the real question is why Laser eye got triggered and said what he said
 

Strait of Hormuz will be opened, Iran's message to Trump​

Rediff.com.

Iran under pressure.... within 2 weeks Iran will completely surrender
 
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RexRex said:
On a related note, this is the best debate you'll see on the topic of israeli influence on america -

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Thanks for this. Just watched it since I had some time. I must say Coleman makes some solid points.

I'm still not convinced Israel and the Israeli lobby influence on American politics is as anodyne as he makes it out to be but he's certainly made me think about maybe we're overestimating it a bit. Personally, I think Glenn could have emphasised a bit more that while yes the Israeli lobby is another typical lobby like Tobacco, Pharma etc.; what makes it especially powerful in American politics is that there's no counter lobby or counter constituency.

For a typical American politician, while there's potentially some downside to supporting Big Pharma, Big Oil etc. openly i.e. they may lose votes and funding, there are no consequences to supporting Israel - no big funders taking away money, no loss of votes since Muslims don't vote as a bloc and don't prioritise issues like Palestine and Iran as much.

Which is why except for a few liberal politicians who do have a constituency that cares about this stuff, almost every American politician on both sides of the aisle is happy to be on Israel's side. No real downside and plenty of potential upside (mainly funding but also some votes). Trump's just an extreme case.
 
Red-Indian said:
Thanks for this. Just watched it since I had some time. I must say Coleman makes some solid points.

I'm still not convinced Israel and the Israeli lobby influence on American politics is as anodyne as he makes it out to be but he's certainly made me think about maybe we're overestimating it a bit. Personally, I think Glenn could have emphasised a bit more that while yes the Israeli lobby is another typical lobby like Tobacco, Pharma etc.; what makes it especially powerful in American politics is that there's no counter lobby or counter constituency.

For a typical American politician, while there's potentially some downside to supporting Big Pharma, Big Oil etc. openly i.e. they may lose votes and funding, there are no consequences to supporting Israel - no big funders taking away money, no loss of votes since Muslims don't vote as a bloc and don't prioritise issues like Palestine and Iran as much.

Which is why except for a few liberal politicians who do have a constituency that cares about this stuff, almost every American politician on both sides of the aisle is happy to be on Israel's side. No real downside and plenty of potential upside (mainly funding but also some votes). Trump's just an extreme case.
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You are equating Israeli lobby with Big Pharma?
 
HalBass9 said:
You are equating Israeli lobby with Big Pharma?
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Yes and Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, Guns etc. Obviously they're all powerful lobbies trying to (improperly) influence American policy. I believed and still believe that the Israeli lobby does have an outsized influence compared to the rest but Coleman (watch the video) does make some decent points about how we're maybe overestimating it.
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan PM Sharif: All schools to close for two weeks after this week ends; higher education to go online immediately to save fuel.

en.dailypakistan.com.pk

PM Shehbaz announces three weekly holidays, 50pc work-from-home to tackle fuel crisis

ISLAMABAD – Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Monday announced major energy-saving measures, including a three-day weekend for offices, 50% work-from-home
en.dailypakistan.com.pk en.dailypakistan.com.pk

:kp
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All government and private schools across Punjab will remain closed on Friday, while teaching activities from Monday to Thursday will continue as per the regular working hours.
https://twitter.com/x/status/2039307005001650531
 
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They both want an end to the war. Iran’s just trying to ensure it doesn’t happen again. And USA doesn’t want to look like they failed and look like they killed the leader for nothing. Just fighting for moral victories now both sides.

It’s actually frustrating that this war is still going on just because countries don’t want to lose face or look weak. Civilians are just in the meantime just dying for nothing.
 
ads101 said:
They both want an end to the war. Iran’s just trying to ensure it doesn’t happen again. And USA doesn’t want to look like they failed and look like they killed the leader for nothing. Just fighting for moral victories now both sides.

It’s actually frustrating that this war is still going on just because countries don’t want to lose face or look weak. Civilians are just in the meantime just dying for nothing.
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I think Trump at least is about ready to accept a sort of defeat and call it a sort of victory. He can't take much more of this without his popularity really cratering even among his base and that's something he really hates,

Iran's making noises to the contrary but hopefully they're also ready to accept a sort of defeat and call it a sort of victory. They can't take much more of this sort of battering. For f's sake, they've not been able to produce a photo of their new 'Supreme Leader'...only random statements which could've been written by anybody.

Obstacles and wildcards remain though - Israel, control of the Straits, Iranian sanctions. There are logical (or semi-logical) solutions available but you're right egos of the leaders involved might prevent them being agreed upon.
 
Now US Vice President J D Vance announced that President Trump getting impatient and could do anything if Iran not surrendered.

Nuclear powered USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Gerald Ford entered Arabian Sea with their massive fleet of military boats

Trump already sets time limit to surrendered.... 10 hours to go... Tomorrow by 6.30 am IST Trump making big announcement...... it could be a fatman towards Tehran? Can Trump become next Hary Truman.

Japan was also became adamant and not willing to end WWII and causing trouble to US. On 6th and 9th August, 1945 US airforce dropped 2 nuclear bombs named little boy and fatman on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.... huge fireball erupted raised temperature to 7000 degree Celsius.... both cities turned into ashes within minutes... it killed 90% of both cities populations.... total death 2,50,000.

6th April and 9th April aren't away
 
globetrotter said:
Now US Vice President J D Vance announced that President Trump getting impatient and could do anything if Iran not surrendered.

Nuclear powered USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Gerald Ford entered Arabian Sea with their massive fleet of military boats

Trump already sets time limit to surrendered.... 10 hours to go... Tomorrow by 6.30 am IST Trump making big announcement...... it could be a fatman towards Tehran? Can Trump become next Hary Truman.

Japan was also became adamant and not willing to end WWII and causing trouble to US. On 6th and 9th August, 1945 US airforce dropped 2 nuclear bombs named little boy and fatman on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.... huge fireball erupted raised temperature to 7000 degree Celsius.... both cities turned into ashes within minutes... it killed 90% of both cities populations.... total death 2,50,000.

6th April and 9th April aren't away
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@Rajdeep you should try this brand, even stronger than yours 👌
 
globetrotter said:
Now US Vice President J D Vance announced that President Trump getting impatient and could do anything if Iran not surrendered.

Nuclear powered USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Gerald Ford entered Arabian Sea with their massive fleet of military boats

Trump already sets time limit to surrendered.... 10 hours to go... Tomorrow by 6.30 am IST Trump making big announcement...... it could be a fatman towards Tehran? Can Trump become next Hary Truman.

Japan was also became adamant and not willing to end WWII and causing trouble to US. On 6th and 9th August, 1945 US airforce dropped 2 nuclear bombs named little boy and fatman on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.... huge fireball erupted raised temperature to 7000 degree Celsius.... both cities turned into ashes within minutes... it killed 90% of both cities populations.... total death 2,50,000.

6th April and 9th April aren't away
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If Trump does order an atomic/nuclear bomb to be dropped on Iran, I would hope there would be conscientious objectors in the US military who would refuse to carry out the order. While the possibility of the Third World war being triggered by this particular bomb would be low, it would still hugely increase it's overall probability.

Essentially, it would show the other nuclear powers (including India) that the US may use nuclear weapons if it's frustrated by something it's not achieving. If a conflict...even low level does breakout between the US and one of the other nuclear powers and their close allies, a small misunderstanding could easily trigger a nuclear holocaust for the world.
 
Pakistan posters who are making fun of my post, pls listen convey messages to your relatives and friends to leave Tehran immediately otherwise it will be catastrophe on them
 
Red-Indian said:
I think Trump at least is about ready to accept a sort of defeat and call it a sort of victory. He can't take much more of this without his popularity really cratering even among his base and that's something he really hates,

Iran's making noises to the contrary but hopefully they're also ready to accept a sort of defeat and call it a sort of victory. They can't take much more of this sort of battering. For f's sake, they've not been able to produce a photo of their new 'Supreme Leader'...only random statements which could've been written by anybody.

Obstacles and wildcards remain though - Israel, control of the Straits, Iranian sanctions. There are logical (or semi-logical) solutions available but you're right egos of the leaders involved might prevent them being agreed upon.
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There is absolutely 0 reason for the supreme leader to get himself killed...he might be dead...but then it's awesome to make the enemy do a fools errand.

As for ceasefire...this whole unilateral withdrawal is a joke. Let's say Trump says he is leaving...strait can go to hell. Iran has care blanche...bomb Israel hit gcc and levy tolls to get their money back. Midterm is gone as oil price remains high. His only hope that rest of the world comes together to put diplomatic pressure as Iran will have to deal with friendly nations. Worst case Israel without USA uses unthinkable weapons as they don't give a **** .

Iran has 0 reason to stop fighting and will welcome unilateral withdrawal. For them getting the oil price high achieves multiple objectives .

And if midterm is gone...we will see Epstein probes, funding drawdown for this war and even impeachment as I think they will lose the Senate too this time of the war prolongs.
 
globetrotter said:
If that really have happened... India's opposition parties would have gone gaga over ruling BJP government
Click to expand...

they are opposition too 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Mortal remains of 20 Indians reach India from Kuwait after delay due to Iran war | India News - The Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: Mortal remains of 20 Indian nationals who died in Kuwait due to various incidents, including the war in the Middle East, arrived at Cochin .
timesofindia.indiatimes.com timesofindia.indiatimes.com

not fake just no international news is reporting it because Indian lives arnt worth anything lol
 
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