Is an India-China war in the offing?

[Enigma_]

Recent tensions on the India China border have escalated to a similar situation prior to the 1962 war. Recently it has been reported all around the world that both the Chinese and Indians have been doing live drills close to the border, including the use off heavy artillery. Just a few hours ago more reports have come in that thousands of Indians and Chinese soldiers stand just meters apart on the border but with their guns pointed to the ground. But again as I mentioned the drills are occurring right behind each army line. My question is with these developments and neither side willing to back down; do you think that another war is about to break about? Of course people will say what about trade etc. but national pride takes the utmost of importance. Also the fact that Indians right now are in a jingoistic mode of Hinduism and are trying to get rid of the humiliation they more than half a century ago. I personally think that war will break out and that it'll be an easy win for the PLA.

 

[Pakpak]

If Pakistan and India can refrain from an all out war despite being probably the worst enemies in the region then India and China war won't be happening at all/

 

[Syed1]

At max a few border skirmishes. Full blown war is hard to imagine between nuclear armed states.

 

[Adil_94]

nope nukes will stop an all out war. will be restricted to skirmishes and shelling.

Nukes have totally changed the game in regards to warfare in the modern age.

If not U.S would have invaded Russia by now and Indo-Pak would be at a War of unparalled destruction.

 

[Enigma_]

There is a first time for everything. With the crazy government India have right now I wouldn't say it isn't possible.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Trade doesn't stop wars, it continues often. Throughout history waring tribes/armies have continued to trade or trade with each others allies.

China normally puts her foot down and India backs off.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There is a first time for everything. With the crazy government India have right now I wouldn't say it isn't possible.

Indian ruling government has bascially sold it's soul/ become a nitch of Zionism. It will now do the bidding of America and Israel who are usiing it for their own agendas. You are correct, you can never rule out war esp when you don't fully decide your own foriegn policies.

 

[Enigma_]

Indian ruling government has bascially sold it's soul/ become a nitch of Zionism. It will now do the bidding of America and Israel who are usiing it for their own agendas. You are correct, you can never rule out war esp when you don't fully decide your own foriegn policies.

It is funny how they've become an American Puppet. These are the same people that go around shouting sovereignty the world over. But they are in for a massive surprise if they attack here.

 

[Asim_khan]

If it does lead to any sort of war, the only winner will be the United States.

Modi will be the biggest loser though

 

[Syed1]

If a full-blown war does break out then there will be only one winner. India cannot compete with China in terms of military hardware. China produces major chunk of her own hardware while India buys expensive western weaponry which is bound to need reinforcements during time of war. Supply lines might be effected and/or allies may not cooperate. US isn't a very reliable ally either. They would push India to go to war with China but when push comes to shove they will take the neutral stand and not help India out (as has been happening with Pakistan).

China is alot more technologically advanced. Heck they are producing not one but two fifth generation aircraft, while India is still unable to produce that rickshaw called Tejas. Chinese technology is rapidly improving and within a decade or two they will catch up the States.

You also have to factor in Pakistan who will step in and try to capture Kashmir if a full-blown war is going on between India and China. While India could have backed on Russia in the past, but not now since now China and Russia are tight too and India has disillusioned Russia with their new found ally in US.

Obviously all of this is assuming nukes are not used, but who knows how far things escalate once war breaks out.

All of this will not go down with the Mera Bharaat Mahan types.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If it does lead to any sort of war, the only winner will be the United States.

Modi will be the biggest loser though

I would say the Indian people too. These people have no benefit to USA/Zionist policy. They want peace with their neighbours and prosperity. But hey ho, Modi Ji wants to be remembered in the history books as the great Hindu leader who changed India into a superpower.

 

[Pakpak]

If a full-blown war does break out then there will be only one winner. India cannot compete with China in terms of military hardware. China produces major chunk of her own hardware while India buys expensive western weaponry which is bound to need reinforcements during time of war. Supply lines might be effected and/or allies may not cooperate. US isn't a very reliable ally either. They would push India to go to war with China but when push comes to shove they will take the neutral stand and not help India out (as has been happening with Pakistan).

China is alot more technologically advanced. Heck they are producing not one but two fifth generation aircraft, while India is still unable to produce that rickshaw called Tejas. Chinese technology is rapidly improving and within a decade or two they will catch up the States.

You also have to factor in Pakistan who will step in and try to capture Kashmir if a full-blown war is going on between India and China. While India could have backed on Russia in the past, but not now since now China and Russia are tight too and India has disillusioned Russia with their new found ally in US.

Obviously all of this is assuming nukes are not used, but who knows how far things escalate once war breaks out.

All of this will not go down with the Mera Bharaat Mahan types.

If this war happens, which is VERY unlikely, I hope we try and take advantage unlike 1962 where we watched on the sidelines.

Though nothing will happen, nukes will make sure of that. At worst some border spats back and forth or a Kargil like scenario between India and China.

 

[Yossarian]

Nah... no war.
USA has too much to lose no matter what. USA-China annual trade is over $650 Billion. China-Japan trade is $350 Billion per annum. And in tun, Japan-USA trade is $270 Billion. And so on....
Even a hint of any war related trade disruption will see stock markets and financial markets go haywire. It will make the banking crisis look like a walk in the park.
So no China-India war. certainly not if there's any possibility of the USA having to take sides.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Don't think so.

 

[GBK_Fan]

There will probably be a few border skirmishes and nothing more than that. That said the Indian government has been trying to solve the matter diplomatically but has had no purchase by the Chinese. There was an interesting article today in the South China post, the author correctly pointed out that India is the largest of China's regional adversaries and is also the only one without an active alliance. When South Korea and Japan counter China, they do it with USA blessing. India currently has no defence agreement, so a Chinese smackdown on India will have no larger repercussions. It will also send a clear message to the others to toe the line.

Also to point out, unless Pakistani rulers are dense, they will probably not get involved in an India-China conflict. That will work to China's detriment and will probably lead to a larger conflict. Not too say it will move India firmly towards the USA and a potential military pact. Pakistan will be better off doing a better planned operation grand slam once the war is over

 

[Pakpak]

I still don't understand what the issue is between them, can someone summarise?

 

[ShadabFakhar]

I still don't understand what the issue is between them, can someone summarise?

Google Aksai Chin and Bhutan

 

[KingKhanWC]

Google Aksai Chin and Bhutan

I would the Dalia Lama to this, he's a real irritant to China.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

I would the Dalia Lama to this, he's a real irritant to China.

Yeah, that might be the Tibet Buddhist connection there.

 

[Saeed]

No there is going to be no war. Wars used to bring riches to the victorious but modern warfare is nothing but economic burden. China knows this and they will likely stay out of any major conflict. Warmongering nations will drive themselves to poverty.

 

[Hornbill]

Many here don't know what happened in 67, After that no bullets were fired against each other.

 

[Rayyman]

What are the chances of World War 3 happening within the next 30-40 years?

 

[JaDed]

Not gonna happen,also all these issues Chinese are having with many countries esp off South China Sea.

And don't know how we are puppets of USA,when we counter them in WTO,Climate Deal and almost on all such organizations.
Its not bad to have Israel as an ally considering Arabs haven't really helped us a great deal in the past.

 

[troodon]

Don't look like guys who want to go to war.




Chinese are extremely smart and they will not waste their resources over a small piece of land when they already have a huge country. They usually stick to intimidation tactics which works for them usually.

 

[English August]

I still don't understand what the issue is between them, can someone summarise?

China tried to bully Bhutan. India intervened and won't let China do it. So China is irritated. It's gotten used to being the schoolyard bully. Now someone is standing up to this bully so it's showing exactly the same behavior schoolyard bullies do when confronted: frustration, anger, petulance, etc. It upped the ante for no good reason and is now looking for a respectable way to climb down without being humiliated internationally. India is handling it like a mature country and will provide China a respectable out in due course.

Things will calm down in a few weeks time. But the ongoing tension will stay. A democratic India is a major thorn in China's imperialist ambitions. It has tried all tricks in the trade, including providing unlimited funding to several communist political parties in India and cultivating left-leaning journalists / writers (people like Arundhati Roy) who run an anti-India campaign in media. Unfortunately for China, communist parties in India have received massive drubbing over the past few elections and are on a terminal decline. But their media campaign is still going great guns.

 

[hussain123]

Economies of both countries are intertwined may be not to the level of interdependence as is the case between china us.however don't see china willing to waste its resources on a futile ego clash with india and take focus over its real adversary i.e;usa.but this bhutan situation will ring bells for china and from here on it would more aggressively come in the picture of indo pak relations and get more hardnozed over various issues with india.it has already started that by calling ladakh a disputed area btw india and china

 

[SandyB]

China has ratified boundaries with all of its neighbors, EXCEPT India. India has never been keen on doing the same too, and has always preferred status quo.

This sudden escalation by China using Bhutan as a proxy , is to put the ball in India's court, to start the process of ratification. They no longer want status quo.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

No. its all a show by India to carry favour with the US.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No. its all a show by India to carry favour with the US.

India is treaty bound to defend Bhutanese territory.

 

[TM Riddle]

If a full-blown war does break out then there will be only one winner. India cannot compete with China in terms of military hardware. China produces major chunk of her own hardware while India buys expensive western weaponry which is bound to need reinforcements during time of war. Supply lines might be effected and/or allies may not cooperate. US isn't a very reliable ally either. They would push India to go to war with China but when push comes to shove they will take the neutral stand and not help India out (as has been happening with Pakistan).

China is alot more technologically advanced. Heck they are producing not one but two fifth generation aircraft, while India is still unable to produce that rickshaw called Tejas. Chinese technology is rapidly improving and within a decade or two they will catch up the States.

You also have to factor in Pakistan who will step in and try to capture Kashmir if a full-blown war is going on between India and China. While India could have backed on Russia in the past, but not now since now China and Russia are tight too and India has disillusioned Russia with their new found ally in US.

Obviously all of this is assuming nukes are not used, but who knows how far things escalate once war breaks out.

All of this will not go down with the Mera Bharaat Mahan types .

All of this won't go down well with any of the types be it clean shaven generals in Islamabad or war mongers sitting safe behind keyboards wishing for destruction of subcontinent(with Pakistan remaining intact lol) .
A full blown war means whole South Asia is doomed.Its as simple as that .

 

[Dios]

Bhutan does not even have a million people. India and China might as well split up the territory and annex it.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

All of this won't go down well with any of the types be it clean shaven generals in Islamabad or war mongers sitting safe behind keyboards wishing for destruction of subcontinent(with Pakistan remaining intact lol) .
A full blown war means whole South Asia is doomed.Its as simple as that .

Why would it be doomed if China and India are having a fight? Are you implying that India will use nuclear option if its losing?

 

[TM Riddle]

Why would it be doomed if China and India are having a fight? Are you implying that India will use nuclear option if its losing?

A full blown war means nukes yes.
I don't count these border skirmishes as war.If that was true then India and Pakistan has been constantly at war with each other since 1947.

 

[Waseem]

China losing patience with India, diplomats in Beijing told

NEW DELHI: China has conveyed to foreign diplomats in Beijing that troops of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) have been waiting patiently at the Doklam plateau in a standoff with Indian troops, but will not wait for an indefinite period, the Indian Express said on Tuesday.

Quoting an unnamed P5 official privy to the briefing, the newspaper said the diplomatic community in Beijing is worried and some have conveyed this message to their Indian counterparts in Beijing and Bhutanese counterparts in New Delhi.

Last month, Indian troops blocked Chinese road works in Doklam and have since been in a faceoff with PLA troops. Beijing has been insisting that New Delhi back down.

Sources told the Indian Express that Chinese officials, at a closed-door briefing last week, conveyed their version of events to diplomats stationed in Beijing. Some of the G-20 countries have been briefed by the Chinese government separately, the Express said.

“Our colleagues in Beijing attended the briefing and were given the impression that the Chinese side will not be waiting for an indefinite period. This is quite worrying, and we have conveyed it to our Indian colleagues in Beijing and Bhutanese colleagues in Delhi,” a diplomat from one of the P-5 (permanent members of the UN Security Council) countries, told the Indian Express.

The diplomatic community in Beijing has been told that the dispute is between China and Bhutan, and the Indian soldiers have “jumped in”.

“They have told our colleagues in Beijing that the Indian side has trespassed into Chinese territory and changed the status quo,” the diplomat told the paper.

This is contrary to what India has said, the newspaper stated. In its June 30 statement, New Delhi said it is “deeply concerned” at “recent Chinese actions” and has conveyed to the Chinese government that such construction will represent a “significant change of status quo with serious security implications for India”.

The Chinese have told diplomats in Beijing that they have strong evidence to prove that Doklam belongs to China. They say Doklam has always been the “traditional pasture for Chinese border inhabitants” and that their archives still retain “some receipts of the grass tax paid by Bhutanese herdsmen”.

They maintain that Indian troops must pull back to the Indian side of the boundary unconditionally and immediately, which is a precondition for meaningful dialogue between China and India.

Meanwhile, a Chinese foreign ministry statement on Tuesday asked India not to use “trespass” into Doklam area as a “policy tool” to achieve its political targets.

The foreign ministry, quoted by the Express, also asked India to immediately withdraw its troops in order to avoid any kind of escalation.

On being asked if a “closed-door briefing” was held with the foreign diplomats to convey China’s version of events, the foreign ministry said it was in “close communication” with the foreign missions in Beijing, but refused to confirm the meeting, the Express said.

“Since the illegal trespass by Indian border personnel, many foreign diplomats in China felt shocked about this and [wanted] to confirm whether it was true,” the ministry’s spokesman Lu Kang said when asked about the reported briefing.

“The Chinese side maintains close communication with the foreign diplomatic missions on the issues they are interested,” Lu told reporters in Beijing.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1346173/china-losing-patience-with-india-diplomats-in-beijing-told

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Don't look like guys who want to go to war.

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Chinese are extremely smart and they will not waste their resources over a small piece of land when they already have a huge country. They usually stick to intimidation tactics which works for them usually.

(IF y'all consider Muslims living in India: Indians) then Modi is someone who let terrorists butcher Muslim Indians. He is on par with ISIS savages.

 

[Romali_rotti]

China losing patience with India, diplomats in Beijing told

NEW DELHI: China has conveyed to foreign diplomats in Beijing that troops of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) have been waiting patiently at the Doklam plateau in a standoff with Indian troops, but will not wait for an indefinite period, the Indian Express said on Tuesday.

Quoting an unnamed P5 official privy to the briefing, the newspaper said the diplomatic community in Beijing is worried and some have conveyed this message to their Indian counterparts in Beijing and Bhutanese counterparts in New Delhi.

Last month, Indian troops blocked Chinese road works in Doklam and have since been in a faceoff with PLA troops. Beijing has been insisting that New Delhi back down.

Sources told the Indian Express that Chinese officials, at a closed-door briefing last week, conveyed their version of events to diplomats stationed in Beijing. Some of the G-20 countries have been briefed by the Chinese government separately, the Express said.

“Our colleagues in Beijing attended the briefing and were given the impression that the Chinese side will not be waiting for an indefinite period. This is quite worrying, and we have conveyed it to our Indian colleagues in Beijing and Bhutanese colleagues in Delhi,” a diplomat from one of the P-5 (permanent members of the UN Security Council) countries, told the Indian Express.

The diplomatic community in Beijing has been told that the dispute is between China and Bhutan, and the Indian soldiers have “jumped in”.

“They have told our colleagues in Beijing that the Indian side has trespassed into Chinese territory and changed the status quo,” the diplomat told the paper.

This is contrary to what India has said, the newspaper stated. In its June 30 statement, New Delhi said it is “deeply concerned” at “recent Chinese actions” and has conveyed to the Chinese government that such construction will represent a “significant change of status quo with serious security implications for India”.

The Chinese have told diplomats in Beijing that they have strong evidence to prove that Doklam belongs to China. They say Doklam has always been the “traditional pasture for Chinese border inhabitants” and that their archives still retain “some receipts of the grass tax paid by Bhutanese herdsmen”.

They maintain that Indian troops must pull back to the Indian side of the boundary unconditionally and immediately, which is a precondition for meaningful dialogue between China and India.

Meanwhile, a Chinese foreign ministry statement on Tuesday asked India not to use “trespass” into Doklam area as a “policy tool” to achieve its political targets.

The foreign ministry, quoted by the Express, also asked India to immediately withdraw its troops in order to avoid any kind of escalation.

On being asked if a “closed-door briefing” was held with the foreign diplomats to convey China’s version of events, the foreign ministry said it was in “close communication” with the foreign missions in Beijing, but refused to confirm the meeting, the Express said.

“Since the illegal trespass by Indian border personnel, many foreign diplomats in China felt shocked about this and [wanted] to confirm whether it was true,” the ministry’s spokesman Lu Kang said when asked about the reported briefing.

“The Chinese side maintains close communication with the foreign diplomatic missions on the issues they are interested,” Lu told reporters in Beijing.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1346173/china-losing-patience-with-india-diplomats-in-beijing-told

More and More Barking from the Chinese... All bark no bite ........

 

[Varun]

Nothing will happen.

Let's not waste time over this.

 

[Black Zero]

There was an article in Chinese print media which speculated about China setting up military base in Azad (Free/PoK) Kashmir as India is setting up in Bhutan.

pure speculations but I liked it

 

[troodon]

There was an article in Chinese print media which speculated about China setting up military base in Azad (Free/PoK) Kashmir as India is setting up in Bhutan.

pure speculations but I liked it

Sure. China can act in POK just like India is doing in Bhutan.

Only problem is, Bhutan does not have an army and relies on India for many things while Pak has an actual army that can defend against other big armies.

 

[troodon]

India is the only country in Asia that China cannot bully into submission. It's like a fight between lion and leopard.
You know that lion would win. But leopard will not go down without some serious bites that can be life threatening for lion.

 

[Pakpak]

India is the only country in Asia that China cannot bully into submission. It's like a fight between lion and leopard.
You know that lion would win. But leopard will not go down without some serious bites that can be life threatening for lion.

Its simply due to nukes. If Philippines, Vietnam etc had nukes as well China would not be bullying them either.

Whenever any country has nukes, therefore saving it from certain destruction incase of a conventional war, then its very hard to be bullied.

I said it few days ago, I'll say it again, nukes have been the savior in our region and has prevented wars that would have led to millions being dead and displaced.

 

[troodon]

Its simply due to nukes. If Philippines, Vietnam etc had nukes as well China would not be bullying them either.

Whenever any country has nukes, therefore saving it from certain destruction incase of a conventional war, then its very hard to be bullied.

I said it few days ago, I'll say it again, nukes have been the savior in our region and has prevented wars that would have led to millions being dead and displaced.

I concur with your view. But the possibility of some idiotic country actually using them is what scares me.

 

[Pakpak]

I concur with your view. But the possibility of some idiotic country actually using them is what scares me.

I doubt it, if a maniac like Kim hasn't used it then noone will. One hopes anyway ofcourse...

 

[Black Zero]

India is the only country in Asia that China cannot bully into submission. It's like a fight between lion and leopard.
You know that lion would win. But leopard will not go down without some serious bites that can be life threatening for lion.

bold claim based on nothing.
there will be no war between china and india as china knows that india will go to UN and USA would setup a base in India. which is the main agenda behind this escalation by India.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

India is the only country in Asia that China cannot bully into submission. It's like a fight between lion and leopard.
You know that lion would win. But leopard will not go down without some serious bites that can be life threatening for lion.

Wishful thinking. China would obliterate India with or without nukes and with Pakistan on the other side the defeat would be that much quicker. Panda and a monkey

 

[Azzurri]

Indians have issues with all neighbouring countries.

 

[akki]

Wishful thinking. China would obliterate India with or without nukes and with Pakistan on the other side the defeat would be that much quicker. Panda and a monkey

who is stopping you or either china then ? ? you want some...cmon you get some......

 

[akki]

Indians have issues with all neighbouring countries.

pakistan too like with afganistan and india., you guys gave china ,part of kashmir for free ... . so much of love for kashmir we saw...
China has issues with all the countries....This time trying to bully bhutan.
But india being a regional power wont let china do that. pakistan should also join india as this is not about india or pakistan.

 

[Black Zero]

pakistan too like with afganistan and india., you guys gave china ,part of kashmir for free ... . so much of love for kashmir we saw...
China has issues with all the countries....This time trying to bully bhutan.
But india being a regional power wont let china do that. pakistan should also join india as this is not about india or pakistan.

lolz

Indian army is just at par with Pakistan Army..both are good enough to do operations against their own citizens and occasional killing common villagers across LoC.

 

[akki]

lolz

Indian army is just at par with Pakistan Army..both are good enough to do operations against their own citizens and occasional killing common villagers across LoC.

If pakistan army is at par with indian army then same way indian army is at par with chineese...hun laalo hisab aape hi...

 

[Black Zero]

If pakistan army is at par with indian army then same way indian army is at par with chineese...hun laalo hisab aape hi...

Well then in this case why do not you just claim that Indian Army is at par with US Army, or may be better. One must not set limits on dreaming


- Pakistan killed 5 army soldiers today in response to Indian Army killing Pakistani solders, during last few days.
- Recently, some extremist killed few Pakistan soldiers and similarly indian soldiers were killed in Kashmir and Assam.
-Pakistan Army killed some Pakistani extremists and Indian Army killed some kashmiris.


Point is, that parity between Pakistan army vs Indian army is more than just a pipe dream.

Pakistan has occupied an "atoot-anag" of Pakistan.
It would be nice, if Indian also get some part of China...or at least just get back it's own territory to convince some non-indian.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

who is stopping you or either china then ? ? you want some...cmon you get some......

Haha, I only wrote that to draw out the Indian trolls. Right on cue.

No war, China is not stupid, it has too much to lose and the yanks would gladly oscillate the proverbial phallus of both countries to calm them down. But India is up against it. You've got two strong military powers with strong intelligence agencies ready to exploit communal tensions and who knows, arm a few. India could do with a calm head as leader to avert this scenario and Modi is not it.

 

[blue_champion]

Wishful thinking. China would obliterate India with or without nukes and with Pakistan on the other side the defeat would be that much quicker. Panda and a monkey

Yeah, as if last time it worked out real well for Pak when they tried to take advantage of the india-china situation

 

[blue_champion]

Well then in this case why do not you just claim that Indian Army is at par with US Army, or may be better. One must not set limits on dreaming


- Pakistan killed 5 army soldiers today in response to Indian Army killing Pakistani solders, during last few days.
- Recently, some extremist killed few Pakistan soldiers and similarly indian soldiers were killed in Kashmir and Assam.
-Pakistan Army killed some Pakistani extremists and Indian Army killed some kashmiris.


Point is, that parity between Pakistan army vs Indian army is more than just a pipe dream.

Pakistan has occupied an "atoot-anag" of Pakistan.
It would be nice, if Indian also get some part of China...or at least just get back it's own territory to convince some non-indian.

Well in that case India did break up pakistan into half...anyways just entertaining this because obviously it's way off topic...not to offend anyone

 

[Black Zero]

Well in that case India did break up pakistan into half...anyways just entertaining this because obviously it's way off topic...not to offend anyone

If you read pakistani history you would know that by 1953 west pakistan considered bangalis a burden and if you read my white house days by Henry kissenger, pakistan was ready to give independence to bangla desh, india's intervention was not even needed. Even in earlier wars, pakistan actually never really defended east pakistan. Good for Bangladesh as they cannot blame punjabis anymore for their shortcomings and good for pakistan as east pakistan was a weak link in pakistan's defense ...

Anyway, pakistan still holds the land (pok,giltgit ,baldistan etc that we got through war) but there is nothing for India to show of their victories.
Anyway topic is about India China parity. Should not "regional power" get back POK from pakistan and Tibet from China?

 

[troodon]

Indians have issues with all neighbouring countries.

No border disputes with Nepal, Srilanka, Bangladesh, Bhutan. Only issues are with Pakistan and China.

China still holds a decent chunk of Kashmir which God knows how Pak is tolerating and agreeing to. China had nothing to do with Kashmir and yet they got a nice bite out of Kashmir.

 

[Leo23]

No border disputes with Nepal, Srilanka, Bangladesh, Bhutan. Only issues are with Pakistan and China.

China still holds a decent chunk of Kashmir which God knows how Pak is tolerating and agreeing to. China had nothing to do with Kashmir and yet they got a nice bite out of Kashmir.

no disputes with those countries because they do not offer any threat. pak and china are india's only powerful neighbors which is why they have a problem with them. cpec is a bitter pill to swallow for india but they are smart enough not to pick up a fight with china because they are no match to them.

 

[Azzurri]

no disputes with those countries because they do not offer any threat. pak and china are india's only powerful neighbors which is why they have a problem with them. cpec is a bitter pill to swallow for india but they are smart enough not to pick up a fight with china because they are no match to them.

But one thing is sure All of the above mentioned countries hate India by the core their heart. Especially Nepalis and Bengalis. If you guys are so nice and innocent then why every single neighbour of yours hate you guys?

 

[TM Riddle]

But one thing is sure All of the above mentioned countries hate India by the core their heart. Especially Nepalis and Bengalis. If you guys are so nice and innocent then why every single neighbour of yours hate you guys?

We don't care if they hate us or not.There are literally millions of Nepalis and Bengalis in this country making their living.It's same as Pakistanis cursing and bad mouthing US but wouldn't lose an opportunity to migrate there if given an opportunity.
And stop forming your opinion on the basis of internet forums and couple of expats you met in Europe.India enjoys a good relations with both these countries .

 

[JaDed]

But one thing is sure All of the above mentioned countries hate India by the core their heart. Especially Nepalis and Bengalis. If you guys are so nice and innocent then why every single neighbour of yours hate you guys?

Burmese don't hate us,we all know whom the hate,Bhutanese don't hate us and neither do Tibetians as such,only Hans from other side of China don't necessarily like us.

And there are many Nepalese people living and working in India,the hate is not unanimous,but they are a whiny lot who want to abuse us and also wants us to transport goods and gas there but we have no border issues with them,their army has no issues with us also we can travel there easily and them here.

Now do you want to do your analysis on Pak?

 

[the Great Khan]

boring..move along..just another border skirmish issue..it will be sorted out after a few mithais and talks at some future forum. If pakistan can pick the phone up and have a chat to commanders on the other side then this isnt a big deal..mostly Indian and chinese media having fun with their ratings..also allows the chienses to test their readiness.

 

[Leo23]

But one thing is sure All of the above mentioned countries hate India by the core their heart. Especially Nepalis and Bengalis. If you guys are so nice and innocent then why every single neighbour of yours hate you guys?

lol i am a pakistani.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But one thing is sure All of the above mentioned countries hate India by the core their heart. Especially Nepalis and Bengalis. If you guys are so nice and innocent then why every single neighbour of yours hate you guys?

Do you know that 45% of nepali population called the Madhesi are of Indian origin?

Dont go by the views of few pahadis.lol.

 

[Azzurri]

lol i am a pakistani.

You being Pakistani don't change my response

 

[English August]

boring..move along...

Are you sure? In the fantasy world some Pakistanis seem to live in, the war has already happened and India has already been roundly humiliated. You probably didn't get the memo.

In the meanwhile, in the real world the rest of us live in, the Chinese are escalating their rhetoric each day. Their media is going nuts with all kind of stories including a planted story in Pak media -- who were more than happy to oblige no doubt -- that said 158 Indian soldiers were killed. If you're going to plant fake news, at least come up with a realistic number!

It's becoming clearer by the day that the Chinese didn't expect India to push back. Now they don't know how to climb down from their silly position without losing face. Since they (and their Pakistani friends) bragged so much, even a stalemate would count as an Indian win.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Are you sure? In the fantasy world some Pakistanis seem to live in, the war has already happened and India has already been roundly humiliated. You probably didn't get the memo.

In the meanwhile, in the real world the rest of us live in, the Chinese are escalating their rhetoric each day. Their media is going nuts with all kind of stories including a planted story in Pak media -- who were more than happy to oblige no doubt -- that said 158 Indian soldiers were killed. If you're going to plant fake news, at least come up with a realistic number!

It's becoming clearer by the day that the Chinese didn't expect India to push back. Now they don't know how to climb down from their silly position without losing face. Since they (and their Pakistani friends) bragged so much, even a stalemate would count as an Indian win.

The Pakistanis some of them wanting China to go to war with India just dont understand how the world works. They fail to realize that India is one of China's largest trading partners and if a war did happen that trade would be affected and also the countries that have expressed interest in the one belt one road initiative will start having second thoughts at a scene of a communist going to war with a democracy, majority of the countries that have attended the one belt one road initiative is democratic. Best thing for Pakistan is just to accept they will never be able to defeat India and instead of hoping other countries will do what they cant, they need to start working on their economy and prosper from it become a nation that is taken seriously rather than the current Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

China is ready for war where as Bharat is vulnerable and afraid. If you analyse the media will see that Bharat is defensive wanting talks and all where as China is aggressive. I totally support China, 100%. India must back off and accept China's position otherwise another beating awaits them.

 

[PakLFC]

The Pakistanis some of them wanting China to go to war with India just dont understand how the world works. They fail to realize that India is one of China's largest trading partners and if a war did happen that trade would be affected and also the countries that have expressed interest in the one belt one road initiative will start having second thoughts at a scene of a communist going to war with a democracy, majority of the countries that have attended the one belt one road initiative is democratic. Best thing for Pakistan is just to accept they will never be able to defeat India and instead of hoping other countries will do what they cant, they need to start working on their economy and prosper from it become a nation that is taken seriously rather than the current Pakistan.

Pak does not need anyone to fight it's battles like India needed Israel at Kargil. Face facts, your attempts to destabilise Pakistan through terrorism in Baluchistan and FATA has totally failed after the Pak army decided to take firm action. Now the shoe is somewhat on the other foot with China standing at your door. Trading between two countries between two countries is no guarantee of no war taking place between them. You are obviously to naive to see the the changing global dynamics and new alliances being formed. We have defeated you in the past and can do so again, your army cant even deal with some stone pelters in IoK never mind take on a battle hardened army like ours. Worry about your own poverty and embarrassing problems associated with it instead of us! Better to end terrorism in neighbouring countries otherwise they will cause equal if not greater damage in your country. China will do what is best for them more hen anything else. If they want to fight and beat you up then they will!

 

[Romali_rotti]

Pak does not need anyone to fight it's battles like India needed Israel at Kargil. Face facts, your attempts to destabilise Pakistan through terrorism in Baluchistan and FATA has totally failed after the Pak army decided to take firm action. Now the shoe is somewhat on the other foot with China standing at your door. Trading between two countries between two countries is no guarantee of no war taking place between them. You are obviously to naive to see the the changing global dynamics and new alliances being formed. We have defeated you in the past and can do so again, your army cant even deal with some stone pelters in IoK never mind take on a battle hardened army like ours. Worry about your own poverty and embarrassing problems associated with it instead of us! Better to end terrorism in neighbouring countries otherwise they will cause equal if not greater damage in your country. China will do what is best for them more hen anything else. If they want to fight and beat you up then they will!

Is there anyway Pakistan can save us from China ? ..

 

[akki]

China is ready for war where as Bharat is vulnerable and afraid. If you analyse the media will see that Bharat is defensive wanting talks and all where as China is aggressive. I totally support China, 100%. India must back off and accept China's position otherwise another beating awaits them.

Hun saade pandat toh muhrat kdauna hi ?? Our army are all already in bhutan and stopped chineese. If we only had to talk ,we wud have already done that.
Waiting for china lets see what they do. we have already done what we shud have....i dnt see indians backing off because its salman khan's india ek bar mene commitment krdi phir toh mai apni bhi ni sunta....loll...
Its only chineese who are making noise,Giving warning daily to india and india is like chal haaat.......

 

[ShadabFakhar]

http://m.economictimes.com/news/def...a-sign-of-the-future/articleshow/59692536.cms

This article is surprisingly well balanced. A reality check for chest - thumpers across all sides

 

[PakLFC]

Hun saade pandat toh muhrat kdauna hi ?? Our army are all already in bhutan and stopped chineese. If we only had to talk ,we wud have already done that.
Waiting for china lets see what they do. we have already done what we shud have....i dnt see indians backing off because its salman khan's india ek bar mene commitment krdi phir toh mai apni bhi ni sunta....loll...
Its only chineese who are making noise,Giving warning daily to india and india is like chal haaat.......

Speak English not roman Urdu. Actually go to Indian websites and see you are making more noise then the Chinese. They can do plenty and are doing that if you analyse what is happening. They will tell you who is boss if things get really serious.

 

[PakLFC]

Is there anyway Pakistan can save us from China ? ..

No! We will be cheering them on!

 

[Romali_rotti]

No! We will be cheering them on!

When China takess over India can Pakistan make sure they wont ban religion so our muslims can be safe ? Brother you are our only hope

 

[PakLFC]

When China takess over India can Pakistan make sure they wont ban religion so our muslims can be safe ? Brother you are our only hope

Chinese are treating their Muslim's far better then India is. They are not lynching their Muslim's for eating beef. China won't be taking over India but Pakistan and other Muslim countries will. That will be best for all.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Chinese are treating their Muslim's far better then India is. They are not lynching their Muslim's for eating beef. China won't be taking over India but Pakistan and other Muslim countries will. That will be best for all.

Brother China has been brutal on the uyghur muslims, they recently banned religion for a lot of people: http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/19/china-bans-religion-for-90-million-people/... The thought of that once proud handsome muslim Mullah with a beehive beard riding his brave camel across the streets, citing Jihad to the infidel may soon become a well dressed ex-muslim individual with no beard nor Jihad talk walking to the Chinese take away eating sweet and sour pork would be the new reality ... Brother don't let this happen,....

 

[PakLFC]

Brother China has been brutal on the uyghur muslims, they recently banned religion for a lot of people: http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/19/china-bans-religion-for-90-million-people/... The thought of that once proud handsome muslim Mullah with a beehive beard riding his brave camel across the streets, citing Jihad to the infidel may soon become a well dressed ex-muslim individual with no beard nor Jihad talk walking to the Chinese take away eating sweet and sour pork would be the new reality ... Brother don't let this happen,....

Pak has to first do what is right by itself. We are not the saviours of all Muslim's as many Pakistanis seem to think. Kashmir is a territorial dispute more then anything else. I have always insisted that Pak should stay out of Middle Eastern affairs.

 

[shortbread]

The Chinese have to act now, all the saber rattling and they have done nothing so far. It's been some time since the world has seen a battle between two well armed neighbors! It has all the makings of an epic blockbuster but will end up being a dud, neither of them are brave enough to make the first move.

We all simply wait in vain.......

 

[jusarrived]

Indian ruling government has bascially sold it's soul/ become a nitch of Zionism. It will now do the bidding of America and Israel who are usiing it for their own agendas. You are correct, you can never rule out war esp when you don't fully decide your own foriegn policies.

A little rich coming from a British or Pakistani

 

[Gabbar Singh]

India is not dumb enough to start a fight it can't win and the Chinese are not dumb enough to start a fight which could cost them billions in trade. So life will carry on just as normal and the sabre rattling/playing up to the galleries will continue.

Meanwhile those with certain fantasies will continue to dream about war between the two.