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Is an India-Pakistan final in the 2023 World Test Championship possible?

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Rafa said:
Lol Pakistan doesn't even deserve to play with a great side like India. Pakistan is losing to WI while India is winning in England. It's a complete mismatch.

Pakistan is only fit to play against SL , WI , Bangaldesh and Zimbabwe.
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How the tables have turned.... India thrashed by an innings in England and will now find it tough to win the series with their fragile batting that got exposed in both innings. Also Pakistan beat West Indies and really should’ve won the first test aswell if it wasn’t for Hasan Ali dropping that dolly catch.

So don’t talk about sides “deserving” to play each other cause Pakistan is ahead in head to head games in tests and odis be it home or away and there are no such things as complete “mismatches” in cricket.

Ireland VS Pakistan 2007 WC was a mismatch
India VS Bangladesh 2007 WC was a mismatch and so many other games over the years.

Pakistan barely qualified for the CT17 at 8th rank and ended up thrashing India by 180 runs. That also looked like a complete “mismatch” after the pool game.

Pakistan also recently beat South Africa at home and I wouldn’t be surprised if they win/draw all their home series cause Australia, England and New Zealand are weak in Asian conditions. However they need to make sure they don’t collapse in away conditions like they did in the 1st WI test, I can definitely see them as strong contenders for the final in this WTC.
 
Possible? - yes.
Probable? - no.
Probable is the key word

NZ, Ind, Eng & Aussies remain strong side though each have some form issues in either batting or bolwing.
SAF, WI, Pak are struggling to dominate each other as of now, much less win against the top tier teams in the tests.
SL and BD will need to rebuild so will fancy their chances only in the next WTC cycle.
 
Mathematical huge chance for Pakistan to play in ICC World Test Championship Final 2023

Whatever has happened in T20 Semi Final
Is history now. It is a game of luck and small margins.

But Pakistan now needs to strongly focus on playing in the Final of ICC Test Championship at Lord’s in 2023.

Upcoming Test Series v Bangladesh (2 Tests) and Australia at Home (3 Tests) needs to be whitewashed.

That will give us very high PCT %.

Away Tour to Sri lanka in Summer should not be problemtic as well.

I think by the time New zealand and England play Test matches in Pakistan latter part of 2022/early 2023, i just think we will have very good shout and odds on making it to the final.

Our Test team at home is not bad at all. But is it really a priority of PCB ( and even Players). Do they value it or are only thinking about Next Year’s T20 World Cup in Australia.

Interestingly even in this forum i do not see many people interested or excited by the idea of Pakistan playing the Final of Test Cricket World cup against India in June 2023.

Because India will be finalist as their Test team is good.
 
sweep_shot said:
I expect India and New Zealand to be in the final again.
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Nah, the schedule for Nz this time is just too difficult, they had a pretty easy schedule last time.
This time they have three away tours to :
1.India
2 Australia
3.England.

This is definitely gonna be difficult for them
 
Would be awesome to get to the final! Need to beat BD and take it step at a time. That first Windies test was a let down.
 
Sarwar89 said:
Whatever has happened in T20 Semi Final
Is history now. It is a game of luck and small margins.

But Pakistan now needs to strongly focus on playing in the Final of ICC Test Championship at Lord’s in 2023.

Upcoming Test Series v Bangladesh (2 Tests) and Australia at Home (3 Tests) needs to be whitewashed.

That will give us very high PCT %.

Away Tour to Sri lanka in Summer should not be problemtic as well.

I think by the time New zealand and England play Test matches in Pakistan latter part of 2022/early 2023, i just think we will have very good shout and odds on making it to the final.

Our Test team at home is not bad at all. But is it really a priority of PCB ( and even Players). Do they value it or are only thinking about Next Year’s T20 World Cup in Australia.

Interestingly even in this forum i do not see many people interested or excited by the idea of Pakistan playing the Final of Test Cricket World cup against India in June 2023.

Because India will be finalist as their Test team is good.
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Test cricket has less takers and fans because it's a sophisticated game. Test cricket is a fine dining dish, T20 is fast food, latter always has more takers because it's easier to make even at home.

I'm very excited at the prospect of India and Pakistan playing the first Test in nearly 20 years when they meet at the Lords in 2023. Shaheen will probably rip through our top order, but ripping test cricket will still make it worthwhile.
 
street cricketer said:
Test cricket has less takers and fans because it's a sophisticated game. Test cricket is a fine dining dish, T20 is fast food, latter always has more takers because it's easier to make even at home.

I'm very excited at the prospect of India and Pakistan playing the first Test in nearly 20 years when they meet at the Lords in 2023. Shaheen will probably rip through our top order, but ripping test cricket will still make it worthwhile.
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Agreed.
 
street cricketer said:
Test cricket has less takers and fans because it's a sophisticated game. Test cricket is a fine dining dish, T20 is fast food, latter always has more takers because it's easier to make even at home.

I'm very excited at the prospect of India and Pakistan playing the first Test in nearly 20 years when they meet at the Lords in 2023. Shaheen will probably rip through our top order, but ripping test cricket will still make it worthwhile.
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The problem is there is barely any money to even buy the ingredients to cook this fine dish. So what is done is money is taken from fast food sales to get the ingredients and cook.

Not a sustainable model.
 
Via the ICC's official channels:

The ICC Board approved the continuation of the ICC World Test Championship in its current form of a nine-team league over a two-year period with a final between the top two teams at the conclusion.
 
After checking the fixtures and how things have gone so far, here are the four teams that (I think) can realistically make it to final:

Australia (very good chance)
India (very good chance)
New Zealand (good chance)
Pakistan (small chance)

Pakistan dropped a Test in West Indies and may get a draw in Bangladesh due to rain. These two results may knock them out.

I expect an Australia vs India/NZ final with Australia winning it.
 
I was expecting two 2-0 results in the tours of West Indies and Bangladesh for Pakistan's results. They lost one vs the Windies and they might draw one here vs Bangladesh. I think it would be hard for Pak to whitewash Sri Lanka in their own home too. Makes the remaining series at home vs Aus, NZ and Eng very very important for Pakistan to make the final.
 
It's on!!!

Can't wait to see India and Pakistan lock horns in a Test match after 16 years!
 
Nah, Aus is top contender for final. They will wipe floor at home with Eng, WI and SA (probably winning between 80-100% of avlbl points and losing no matches)

Then away they should smash SL and if they can draw a few tests in Pak and India or snatch a win they will be fine
 
It would be an incredible occasion, but perhaps not quite at the moment. India v Australia for the final looks more likely in this particular cycle.
 
James said:
It would be an incredible occasion, but perhaps not quite at the moment. India v Australia for the final looks more likely in this particular cycle.
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Dont think Australia have a chance. They will loose at least 3 out 5 tests this Ashes.
 
pratiktc said:
Nah, Aus is top contender for final. They will wipe floor at home with Eng, WI and SA (probably winning between 80-100% of avlbl points and losing no matches)

Then away they should smash SL and if they can draw a few tests in Pak and India or snatch a win they will be fine
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3 Asian tours could easily mean 3 series lost. Australia have lost their last tours against each of these teams. Also SA has beaten Australia in their last 2 series' in Australia, yes that was a different SA, but it still won't be such an easy series, SA always bring their A game in and against Australia.
 
I think think the WTC needs to be reduced to 8 teams in a division 1 with Bangladesh being Demoted to Division 2.

Division 1 - Eng, Ind, Aus, Pak, SA, NZ, WI

2 year cycle - 3 home series, 3 Away series. Every test series is a 3 match series (except for the Ashes).

Top 2 Teams in final.

Division 2 - Bangla, Afghans, ireland, Zimbabwe - maybe even Add 2 more teams Namibia, Scotland or Netherlands etc..

2 Year cycle each team plays 3 home series and 3 away series. 2 or 3 Tests.

Even maybe have a play off game between Bottom of division 1 and top of division 2 for a place in the next test cycle.
 
Dont be surprised if Aussies make excuses to not tour certain Asian countries based on "security" just so they can avoid losing points through defeats in WTC.
 
It's too early in the championship to be making these predictions. This cycle of wtc gives good opportunities for all teams to stake a claim in finals
 
Will Pakistan get full points when NZ/Australia/England refuse to tour?
There is like 20% chance that these anglo teams will come to play Test Match on Pakistan soil.
 
street cricketer said:
It's on!!!

Can't wait to see India and Pakistan lock horns in a Test match after 16 years!
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Would be great to finally see Pak vs Ind in a test match, last time both teams played a test was in 2007. Pakistan will have to do extremely well to be in the Final of WTC.
 
Remaining Matches for Pakistan in this cycle of WTC

3 vs Australia: Australia did beat India last time they toured India, So I expect them to win at least 1 match in Pakistan, especially the test match at Pindi. My Prediction 1-1 draw

2 vs S.L: My Prediction 1-1 draw. Because on those spinning wickets vs quality spinners, Pakistan will lose at least 1 game.

3 vs Eng: Pakistan can seriously defeat England in all 3 games because they have a very average test team. My Prediction 3-0 to Pakistan.

2 vs NZ: My Prediction 1-1 Draw. Kiwis managed to get a draw in India as well plus they have beaten us in our last home test series in UAE. Pakistan didn't even manage to beat them in 3 match series under Misbah. So they will definitely win at least 1 match.

By looking at all these I don't think realistically Pakistan has any chance of playing final of WTC but it's Pakistan cricket so anything can happen.
 
ChTab said:
Remaining Matches for Pakistan in this cycle of WTC

3 vs Australia: Australia did beat India last time they toured India, So I expect them to win at least 1 match in Pakistan, especially the test match at Pindi. My Prediction 1-1 draw

2 vs S.L: My Prediction 1-1 draw. Because on those spinning wickets vs quality spinners, Pakistan will lose at least 1 game.

3 vs Eng: Pakistan can seriously defeat England in all 3 games because they have a very average test team. My Prediction 3-0 to Pakistan.

2 vs NZ: My Prediction 1-1 Draw. Kiwis managed to get a draw in India as well plus they have beaten us in our last home test series in UAE. Pakistan didn't even manage to beat them in 3 match series under Misbah. So they will definitely win at least 1 match.

By looking at all these I don't think realistically Pakistan has any chance of playing final of WTC but it's Pakistan cricket so anything can happen.
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Is the Pakistan series v England in England?
I can’t envisage a 3-0. Maybe 2-1 either way.
 
Hope India and Pakistan finish in top 2 in the league stage. Hope the format of the final is changed to best of 3 in neutral venue. That way we can have a proper test series between the 2 nations on somewhat sporting pitches. We faced each other a lot in 90s and 2000s but most of the pitches were super flat resulting in many high scoring boring draws, don't want that kind of nonsense.
 
Pakistans Remaining 4 series in current WTC cycle

In the current cycle WTC cycle pakistan were given pretty favourable fixtures compared to last time. The next 4 test series are all in Asia, yes they away series is in Sri lanka but those conditions shouldnt be a concern to the players. we have beaten Sri lanka, bangladesh and South Africa in test series since cricket returned to pakistan. The next 3 test series at home wont be easy however if we get team selections correct, team balance correct then i cant see why we cant win all 3 home series and win in Sri lanka.

Team selection.

Openers - This has been a huge area of concern and was something that was exposed in SA (home series) and WI (away) and we cant afford to get off to poor starts. For now openers are Abid and Shafique. Abid needs to score runs against better teams, we are in home conditons so there should be no excuse. Shafique needs to be given a run in the side for at least a couple of series to see how he does.

number 3 - Time to move on from Azhar Ali, hes 36 now has pretty much been poor majority of the time over last 3-4 years since Misbah/YK left. yes you get the odd good inns. overall hes been exposed by decent quick bowlers and his batting has got even slower. We have plenty of good young middle order batsmen who could come in. Be given next 4 series (10-11 tests to establish themselves.

Saud shakeel has done well Domestically and also for the shaheens. He would slot in well at number 3, also the fact he can bowl Left arm spin allows some extra balance to the team.

Number 4 Babar - in terms of captaincy im the field it really needs to improve in the way he uses his bowlers and field settings. He gets way to defensive quickly and seems to hope for wickets when a game drifts instead of being proactive. Also needs to improve how he plays spin, espcially when we come to play sri lanka.

number 5 - Fawad Alam, provides experience in batting (even more so if we give Azhar the boot) - needs to score more than 1 big knock per series but for now stays in the team.

number 6 Rizwan - no issues here Auto pick.

number 7 - This place is up for grabs. For me faheem doesnt offer enough as 3rd seamer and we need more potency then he offers with the ball especially when we will be playing better sides. i think a 3rd front line seamer needs to be picked. for that reason number 7 needs to be :- kamran ghulam/Saharan khan/Nawaz - one of these guys would bolster batting and provide another spin option

3 seamers - Shaheen is an Auto pick. Hasan for me in a two man attack is hot and cold, hes not good wiv new ball but can do damage with with older ball we need to bring in The 3rd seamer needs to be someone who can do well with new ball and offer control.

Spinner - i think we need to pick one front line spinner. Yasir is on his last legs so picking him now can be seen as a risk. Sajid khan was best spinner in bangladesh so looks like a toss up between him and Yasir for me in final X1. Nauman Ali was very disappointing in bangldesh and i think we can more than cover his overs from players in our top 7.

2nd spin options will come from Saud, fawad and who ever is picked at number 7.

i think for next 4 series (Aus/eng/NZ at home and SL away) we should be looking at

Abid
Shaffique
Saud - Spin option
Babar
Fawad - spin option
Rizwan
Ghulam/shadab/nawaz - Spin option
Dhani / Sameen Gul / Haris Rauf
shaheen
Hasan
Yasir/sajid khan

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In the squad aside from names above
Imam
Nauman Ali
Zahid Mahmood
Fahim Ashraf
 
Amjid Javed said:
In the current cycle WTC cycle pakistan were given pretty favourable fixtures compared to last time. The next 4 test series are all in Asia, yes they away series is in Sri lanka but those conditions shouldnt be a concern to the players. we have beaten Sri lanka, bangladesh and South Africa in test series since cricket returned to pakistan. The next 3 test series at home wont be easy however if we get team selections correct, team balance correct then i cant see why we cant win all 3 home series and win in Sri lanka.

Team selection.

Openers - This has been a huge area of concern and was something that was exposed in SA (home series) and WI (away) and we cant afford to get off to poor starts. For now openers are Abid and Shafique. Abid needs to score runs against better teams, we are in home conditons so there should be no excuse. Shafique needs to be given a run in the side for at least a couple of series to see how he does.

number 3 - Time to move on from Azhar Ali, hes 36 now has pretty much been poor majority of the time over last 3-4 years since Misbah/YK left. yes you get the odd good inns. overall hes been exposed by decent quick bowlers and his batting has got even slower. We have plenty of good young middle order batsmen who could come in. Be given next 4 series (10-11 tests to establish themselves.

Saud shakeel has done well Domestically and also for the shaheens. He would slot in well at number 3, also the fact he can bowl Left arm spin allows some extra balance to the team.

Number 4 Babar - in terms of captaincy im the field it really needs to improve in the way he uses his bowlers and field settings. He gets way to defensive quickly and seems to hope for wickets when a game drifts instead of being proactive. Also needs to improve how he plays spin, espcially when we come to play sri lanka.

number 5 - Fawad Alam, provides experience in batting (even more so if we give Azhar the boot) - needs to score more than 1 big knock per series but for now stays in the team.

number 6 Rizwan - no issues here Auto pick.

number 7 - This place is up for grabs. For me faheem doesnt offer enough as 3rd seamer and we need more potency then he offers with the ball especially when we will be playing better sides. i think a 3rd front line seamer needs to be picked. for that reason number 7 needs to be :- kamran ghulam/Saharan khan/Nawaz - one of these guys would bolster batting and provide another spin option

3 seamers - Shaheen is an Auto pick. Hasan for me in a two man attack is hot and cold, hes not good wiv new ball but can do damage with with older ball we need to bring in The 3rd seamer needs to be someone who can do well with new ball and offer control.

Spinner - i think we need to pick one front line spinner. Yasir is on his last legs so picking him now can be seen as a risk. Sajid khan was best spinner in bangladesh so looks like a toss up between him and Yasir for me in final X1. Nauman Ali was very disappointing in bangldesh and i think we can more than cover his overs from players in our top 7.

2nd spin options will come from Saud, fawad and who ever is picked at number 7.

i think for next 4 series (Aus/eng/NZ at home and SL away) we should be looking at

Abid
Shaffique
Saud - Spin option
Babar
Fawad - spin option
Rizwan
Ghulam/shadab/nawaz - Spin option
Dhani / Sameen Gul / Haris Rauf
shaheen
Hasan
Yasir/sajid khan

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In the squad aside from names above
Imam
Nauman Ali
Zahid Mahmood
Fahim Ashraf
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Shadab would be good in SENA conditions as he offers with the bat but in asain conditions I would not pick him as the second spinner as the second spinner stil needs to take wickets
 
India's 7-wicket defeat to South Africa in the third Test at Newlands in Cape Town not only put their dream of winning a Test series against the Proteas away from home on hold but also dented their progress in the World Test Championship (WTC). India slipped to the fifth spot in the latest WTC points table after the Virat Kohli-led side lost the three-match series to South Africa 1-2 on Friday. South Africa, on the other hand, rose to the fourth spot with this crucial victory.

India have played nine Tests in the second cycle of WTC, winning four, losing three and drawing two. Despite winning the most number of Tests among all the teams so far in the WTC cycle, India are fifth because their PCT (percentage of points won) is lower than Sri Lanka, Australia, Pakistan and South Africa.

India's PCT has now dropped to 49.07 from 55.21. India have also lost three points due to slow over-rate.

Sri Lanka top the chart with after two wins in two matches. With the victory in the last two Tests against India, South Africa have improved their PCT to 66.66.

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Australia, who are leading the Ashes 3-0 against England are at the second position with a PCT of 83.33.

Pakistan are at No.3 with a PCT of 75.00.

The top two teams will qualify for the final of WTC at the end of the cycle. In the previous edition, India had faced New Zealand in the final, which the latter won.

ICC had made a host of changes to the WTC points system after the first edition. According to the new rules, the number of Test wins and series victories does not determine the standings, the percentage of points won (PCT) does. It was done to do away with the disparity in the number of Tests each team is slated to play in the WTC cycle.

ach team is scheduled to play six series - three home and three away - but because the number of Tests in those series varies for each team, ICC came up with PCT.

In the new system, a team can earn 12 points with a Test win, six points are reserved for a tie and in case of a draw, both the teams get four points each. A point is deducted for every over a team falls short of the mandated over-rate.

Here is how PCT is calculated in WTC
India have played nine Tests in WTC so far. The maximum number of WTC points they could have earned were 108 (9*12) if they had won all of them but they won four, drew two, taking their total to 56. Three points were deducted as they were three overs short of the mandated over-rate. India currently have 53 WTC points. Hence, their PCT is 49.07, which ultimately determines the standing.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/wtc...ampionship-2708876#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories
 
If it did come to an India v Pakistan final it will be interesting to see what BCCI would do.

Forfeit or play?
 
The World Test Championship final is still nearly a year away, but the predictions have already started. Having lost to South Africa, India’s chances of making it through to the final has diminished. Ex-India opener Aakash Chopra reckons India will not qualify for the final.

“India need to get 100 percent points in the four-match series against Australia. You cannot draw, you have to win all four games,” Aakash said on his official YouTube channel.

“We’re likely to win against Sri Lanka 2-0. We have to play Bangladesh away, I’m confident we can win there. And the one one-off Test against England. We lost the series in South Africa, so it is not going to be easy.”

As per Aakash, Pakistan and Australia are well-placed to make it through to the final.

“I am not counting England, Bangladesh, West Indies, and I won’t count New Zealand as well. I don’t think Sri Lanka have a chance at qualification. I believe it will be between three teams — Australia, India, and Pakistan. If Pakistan don’t prepare such roads, there’s a strong possibility of a Pakistan-Australia final,” he said.

Meanwhile, Rohit Sharma-led India have seven Tests remaining in the WTC cycle that include a one-off Test against England (away), a two-Test series against Bangladesh (away), and a four-match series against Australia (home).

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...stralia-vs-pakistan-wtc-2021-23-final-1015511
 
Australia back in 2016 tour won 1 Test in india.
I think they will atleast win 1 test in india this time too.
They will lose against England in one off test.

These 2 defeats will put Aus-Pak in hot seat to contest final.

But pakistan has to win remaining 2 test matches v Australia. It is important.
 
Saj said:
If it did come to an India v Pakistan final it will be interesting to see what BCCI would do.

Forfeit or play?
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BCCI will never forfeit ICC event match v Pakistan and it is world cup final of Test cricket.
Biggest ever match between two countries.
That too at Lord’s.
 
Chopra talking rubbish as usual..

Yes India have lost in South Africa and made it a bit tougher for themselves but Australia are also set to lose in India next year to a team, which is their direct rival. India won't just gain points but also snatch them away from Australia and bring their PCT down drastically. And on top of that, they still have 4 more tests in Pak and SL where they're likely to drop quite a few points.

At this moment, India and South Africa have a better chance of qualifying than Australia. SA are likely to sweep Ban and WI at home and beat the hopeless England team away but they will likely get 3-0ed in Australia pulling them back.

Most likely final scenarios IMO -

India vs Pakistan - 40% :)

Pakistan vs South Africa - 25 %

India vs South Africa - 15%

Pakistan vs Australia - 15 %

India vs Australia - 5%

Australia vs South Africa - 4%

Others - 1%
 
Sarwar89 said:
Australia back in 2016 tour won 1 Test in india.
I think they will atleast win 1 test in india this time too.
They will lose against England in one off test.

These 2 defeats will put Aus-Pak in hot seat to contest final.

But pakistan has to win remaining 2 test matches v Australia. It is important.
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Even if Australia wins a test in India, how does that make up for all the points they're going to drop in the remaining games (in Asia)?

And how are you so sure of India losing the one-off test in England? Matlab kuch bhi..
 
Mesozoic said:
Even if Australia wins a test in India, how does that make up for all the points they're going to drop in the remaining games (in Asia)?

And how are you so sure of India losing the one-off test in England? Matlab kuch bhi..
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India just lost 2 tests in South Africa.
England Red ball team is in process of winning back their supporters, series is on the line, they will come all guns blazing for that 5th test.
 
Sarwar89 said:
India just lost 2 tests in South Africa.
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Unless you think Australia are going to win 2-0 in Pak and SL and win in India, I don't see how that matters.

England Red ball team is in process of winning back their supporters, series is on the line, they will come all guns blazing for that 5th test.
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Nah seen it all before. Reality is that England have stopped producing world class Test cricketers and are heavily dependent on Root and Anderson. We should be fine now that Pujara and Rahane are gone.
 
India will loose one of test against England because England have much better practice against NZ test in home that will end on 27th June...and in 1st July one of test will start. Other hand india will go England without practice just like WTC final .Ben stokes backs in England team and india having history to loose first match
 
For that to happen Pakistan will have to win this series convincingly, they are too busy losing points already
 
boomboomcheema said:
For that to happen Pakistan will have to win this series convincingly, they are too busy losing points already
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Pakistan can afford even a 0-0 draw this series thanks to their easiest possible away fixtures. It should be termed a monumental failure if they don't make the final this time.
 
Pakistan broke the World Cup jinx against India now need to break the ODI WC jinx. Haven't watched a test match or ODI match in a long time. Last ODI I watched was NZ vs Eng ODI final.

India vs Pak test final will bring in more people to watch test cricket, it's dying. I'll watch highlights for sure :kohli
 
I really hope so - it would be a tremendous occasion. Both sides need to win a few test matches first!
 
After a series defeat at home, chances are looking bleak for a Ind-Pak WTC finals :(
 
All over for Pakistan in WTC.

Its going to be between Aus, Ind or SA.

Three way race now.
 
Pakistan tried their best to draw a way to the WTC finals. A disgraceful idea that hopefully has come back to bite them.
 
After this Aussie win, I think Aussies should make it to final.

So, India-Pakistan is unlikely.
 
Whoever plays the finlas, i hope its played in a neutral country with sporting wickets offering help to all sorts of bowlers and batsmen. And also its a best of three test affair
 
It's not all over. We can still get there, theoretically. But that starts with winning in SL. Can't afford to lose or draw any match there.
 
Arsal_AK said:
It's not all over. We can still get there, theoretically. But that starts with winning in SL. Can't afford to lose or draw any match there.
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Pakistan is very likely to drop a Test in SL.

Plus don't think England and NZ would be a walkover at home.
 
Guess India can beat Australia and move up but the outcome of the SL v PAK could make things interesting for sure.
 
MenInG said:
Guess India can beat Australia and move up but the outcome of the SL v PAK could make things interesting for sure.
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If Pakistan sweeps Sri Lanka 2-0, then there's definitely still a chance of this dream final. Because..

1. Australia's CT will take a big dent in that massive 4 match series in India unless they thrash South Africa 3-0 at home (considering a 2-0 against WI is a foregone conclusion). And most importantly they will be losing points to India, who are in the race as well.

2. The other contender South Africa are set to play 6 Tests in Australia and England so, they'll drop lots and lots of points too now that England too are looking sublime at home.

3. On the other hand, Pakistan and India have all winnable series' left. Yes winning in Sri Lanka might not be easy for pak but if toss goes their way they can certainly win. And then it's all down to Pakistani curators , TM and board chairman being sensible when NZ and Eng come over. :)
 
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IIRC, Pakistan need to win 4/6 remaining Tests to reach that 65% win percentage mark which should be enough to get them into the finals.

Sweeping Sri Lanka would go a big way and then winning 3/5 Tests at home should be doable. Truly a shame they could win vs Australia because that would have gone a long way.
 
From Wisden

What Pakistan’s schedule looks like

Pakistan have completed four series in the ongoing WTC cycle, and have two more series to go: against England and New Zealand. They are scheduled to play three Tests against the Ben Stokes-led side, besides playing two against the Black Caps. Both series will be at home.

Despite playing in familiar conditions, they will not necessarily go in as favourites. England’s Test fortunes are on the rise under new coach Brendon McCullum, with ‘Baz-Ball’ trending ever since he took over. However, England haven’t beaten Pakistan outside of England since 2001.

Inaugural WTC winners New Zealand have had the upper hand over Pakistan since 2011, which was the last time the latter won a Test series against the Kiwis. Since then, the two sides have played out four series, with only one series, in 2014/15, ending in a draw. New Zealand have won the last three series between the two countries, including in 2018/19, which was played in the UAE in conditions that assist Pakistan more.

If Pakistan win their last five Tests, they will end with a PCT of 69.05, which will likely be enough to make the finals. Notably, that figure would put them ahead of India, even if Rohit Sharma’s side win all six of their remaining Tests. However, their destiny will still be out of their hands. Should, for example, South Africa beat England 3-0 and lose 2-1 to Australia, with Australia beating India 2-0, they would both finish ahead of Pakistan in the points table.

If Pakistan lose even one match, their PCT will drop down to 61.90, while if Pakistan they win four and draw one, their PCT will be 64.28. In this case, India will be able to overtake them by winning all six of their Tests.

Should India win all six of their Tests, Pakistan win all of theirs, and South Africa win three and lose three of their remaining six Tests, a mouth-watering India-Pakistan WTC final at Lord’s would be on the cards.
 
India well on their way to the final - Pakistan, less said the better

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MenInG said:
India well on their way to the final - Pakistan, less said the better

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Pakistan messed the golden opportunity to reach the final having such easy assignment at home and away. India about to bottles it against Bangladesh.If they loose series against australia,than they will join Pakistan's party
 
WTC situation

Seventh - Pakistan - 38.89% of possible points

Remaining series: New Zealand (home, two Tests)
Best possible percentage finish: 47.62%

If Pakistan can win their final two Test matches this period - they host New Zealand in a quickfire series that commences later this month - they can finish with a win-percentage as high as 47.62 percent.

That could be enough for them to finish in front of seven other sides and claim second place on the final standings, but this is what also needs to occur:

- Australia will be their best ally as they will require Pat Cummins side to continue on their winning ways against South Africa and then next year against India
- They will need Bangladesh to do them a favour and cause a huge upset by defeating India in their ongoing Test series in Mirpur
- They will need New Zealand to defeat Sri Lanka in both of their Test matches in March next year
- They will require the West Indies to defeat South Africa in one of the two Tests away from home next year and then hope the second match ends as a draw (this would ensure both sides finish lower than Pakistan on the standings)
 
Saj said:
WTC situation

Seventh - Pakistan - 38.89% of possible points

Remaining series: New Zealand (home, two Tests)
Best possible percentage finish: 47.62%

If Pakistan can win their final two Test matches this period - they host New Zealand in a quickfire series that commences later this month - they can finish with a win-percentage as high as 47.62 percent.

That could be enough for them to finish in front of seven other sides and claim second place on the final standings, but this is what also needs to occur:

- Australia will be their best ally as they will require Pat Cummins side to continue on their winning ways against South Africa and then next year against India
- They will need Bangladesh to do them a favour and cause a huge upset by defeating India in their ongoing Test series in Mirpur
- They will need New Zealand to defeat Sri Lanka in both of their Test matches in March next year
- They will require the West Indies to defeat South Africa in one of the two Tests away from home next year and then hope the second match ends as a draw (this would ensure both sides finish lower than Pakistan on the standings)
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Hasn't happened. No chance for Pakistan then?
 
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