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you have to judge output in isolation and in team cause. If pakistan draw or win in this series: thats already bigger than what we have done with the other two.
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Is Azhar Ali heading towards Test ATG status?
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you have to judge output in isolation and in team cause. If pakistan draw or win in this series: thats already bigger than what we have done with the other two.
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if, but, when this series perchance. but if anything azhar fares poorly if one evaluates players by their impact, ie ability to score big when it matters. in this respect he is still leagues behind younis, let alone other, greater greats.
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"If Azhar Ali continues to play like this, he can be counted among the Test greats" : Iqbal Qasim
KARACHI: Azhar Ali rewrote history books on Wednesday when he became the first Pakistani to score a double century in Australia and former Test cricketer Iqbal Qasim hailed him as a ‘Test great in the making’.
The opening batsman, who surpassed Majid Khan’s highest individual score of 158 by a Pakistani in Australia, struck 205 runs from 364 deliveries, laced with 20 boundaries, on the third day of the second Test in the series to guide Pakistan to 443-9 in their first innings at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
And Qasim, while hailing Azhar’s feat, rated the opening batsman as one of the best in the world at the moment.
“Azhar has proved his credentials as one of the top Test batsmen [in the world],” Qasim told The Express Tribune. “No matter what the conditions are, scoring runs against Australia in their own backyard is no mean feat. He now has a triple hundred, a double hundred and a century in a calendar year which is a phenomenal record. I would say if he continues to play like this, he can most certainly be counted among the Test greats.”
The former chief selector also urged the team management to not disrupt Azhar’s form by changing his batting position.
“Azhar took some time to settle after being promoted as an opener [from one-down]. He is settled as an opener now and his batting position must not be changed,” said Qasim.
Following Azhar’s brilliant batting performance, the Australians also showed why they are one of the most formidable sides at home in the world as David Warner smashed a quick-fire 144 off 143 balls to get the home side right back in the game.
The hosts were on 278-2 when the third day’s play was called off and Qasim lamented Pakistan’s bowling attack’s inability to curb the flow of runs.
“Pakistan had a good opportunity to bring Australia under pressure after posting a good total, but the bowlers wasted that chance by allowing Australia to score freely. Our fast bowlers bowled the same way like their Australian counterparts but their batsmen play the pace well which is the difference between the two sides,” he said.
He further added, “I feel Yasir Shah had the greater responsibility of taking wickets; he has a good chance to play a key role but he is not performing up to the expectations. If Pakistan are to win this Test from here, Yasir will have to play a leading role.”
Speaking on the possible outcomes of Boxing Day Test, Qasim said a draw was on the cards.
“Almost a day has been lost due to rain and the forecast isn’t good for rest of the days. There is 80% chance of a draw and only some outstanding performances from either side can lead to a result in the second Test,” he concluded.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1277526/azhar-test-great-making-qasim/
KARACHI: Azhar Ali rewrote history books on Wednesday when he became the first Pakistani to score a double century in Australia and former Test cricketer Iqbal Qasim hailed him as a ‘Test great in the making’.
The opening batsman, who surpassed Majid Khan’s highest individual score of 158 by a Pakistani in Australia, struck 205 runs from 364 deliveries, laced with 20 boundaries, on the third day of the second Test in the series to guide Pakistan to 443-9 in their first innings at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
And Qasim, while hailing Azhar’s feat, rated the opening batsman as one of the best in the world at the moment.
“Azhar has proved his credentials as one of the top Test batsmen [in the world],” Qasim told The Express Tribune. “No matter what the conditions are, scoring runs against Australia in their own backyard is no mean feat. He now has a triple hundred, a double hundred and a century in a calendar year which is a phenomenal record. I would say if he continues to play like this, he can most certainly be counted among the Test greats.”
The former chief selector also urged the team management to not disrupt Azhar’s form by changing his batting position.
“Azhar took some time to settle after being promoted as an opener [from one-down]. He is settled as an opener now and his batting position must not be changed,” said Qasim.
Following Azhar’s brilliant batting performance, the Australians also showed why they are one of the most formidable sides at home in the world as David Warner smashed a quick-fire 144 off 143 balls to get the home side right back in the game.
The hosts were on 278-2 when the third day’s play was called off and Qasim lamented Pakistan’s bowling attack’s inability to curb the flow of runs.
“Pakistan had a good opportunity to bring Australia under pressure after posting a good total, but the bowlers wasted that chance by allowing Australia to score freely. Our fast bowlers bowled the same way like their Australian counterparts but their batsmen play the pace well which is the difference between the two sides,” he said.
He further added, “I feel Yasir Shah had the greater responsibility of taking wickets; he has a good chance to play a key role but he is not performing up to the expectations. If Pakistan are to win this Test from here, Yasir will have to play a leading role.”
Speaking on the possible outcomes of Boxing Day Test, Qasim said a draw was on the cards.
“Almost a day has been lost due to rain and the forecast isn’t good for rest of the days. There is 80% chance of a draw and only some outstanding performances from either side can lead to a result in the second Test,” he concluded.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1277526/azhar-test-great-making-qasim/
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ATG playing at 6?
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Obviously he isn't close to ATG material and never will be, but most people have been adamant for a while now that he's on his way to becoming a Pakistan great.
After yesterday's innings, he is pretty much there. Within a year or two, most people would put him as one of the first names after Miandad, Inzamam, Anwar, MoYo, Younis, Hanif, Zaheer etc., and could soon find a place in the all-time Pakistan Test XI as an opener.
After yesterday's innings, he is pretty much there. Within a year or two, most people would put him as one of the first names after Miandad, Inzamam, Anwar, MoYo, Younis, Hanif, Zaheer etc., and could soon find a place in the all-time Pakistan Test XI as an opener.
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I do think he will get to Pakistani great level but interesting suggestion about him possibly making an all time Pak test XI! At the moment, I imagine this is how the top six would read:
Saeed
Hanif
YK/Zaheer
Miandad
Yousuf
Inzi
Do you think by the end of his career he would be able to unseat either Anwar or Hanif? Perhaps a place at no. 3?
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He will never be ATG. He is too limited in his stroke play to be considered one. He will be a good player thats about it.
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He'd have to play out of his skin for the next 5 years to reach that level.
Amazing how people are still only praising Azhar through gritted teeth.
We get it, no matter what he does you'll never like him because he's a grinder.
For the record, no he won't be an all-time Test great but he does have the potential to be a Pakistan Test ATG if he continues this form.
We get it, no matter what he does you'll never like him because he's a grinder.
For the record, no he won't be an all-time Test great but he does have the potential to be a Pakistan Test ATG if he continues this form.
BAbar Azam has the potential to be an ATG. He is the only young Pak bat with skill, defense and stroke play. He also seems to be smart.
Don't judge BAbar by his performance in Aus and NZ. It's his first overseas tour. He will only improve.
Azhar plays too slow and he is limited in terms of talent. Will surely be a Pak great.
Don't judge BAbar by his performance in Aus and NZ. It's his first overseas tour. He will only improve.
Azhar plays too slow and he is limited in terms of talent. Will surely be a Pak great.
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Azhar can do a Sangakkara (in performances) in the second half of his career and be considered as a test ATG opener.
Both Azhar and Rahane have the potential to be considered as ATGs in the test format at the end of their careers.
The Kohli comparison is not necessary here. The OP is not talking about all formats here.
Both Azhar and Rahane have the potential to be considered as ATGs in the test format at the end of their careers.
The Kohli comparison is not necessary here. The OP is not talking about all formats here.
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Yeah I see Babar in the class of Kohli, Williamson, and Smith if he works hard on his game. Has a look of a balanced batsmen who could attack and defend.
Azhar should be compared to other slow batsmen like Dravid, Kallis, and Mohomad Yousaf.
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Azhar did not bat under the sun. He batted with overcast throughout which retained the moisture.
Sa series was in 2013 and england series was in 2010, but now he is different beast and score big everywhere...
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