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I recently heard from a close source in NZ Cricket who described the Pakistan team’s approach as “careless and lacking situational awareness.”

We often hear these criticisms after a Pakistan loss, but this was before the first ODI in Napier even began.

We all know the current Pakistan team is miles behind other top sides in all aspects—whether it’s planning, execution, or adapting to match situations. But it’s still hard to believe that a group of international cricketers and team management could be this incompetent.

The Napier ground staff, along with the NZ Cricket Board, had sent multiple communications to both the Pakistan and New Zealand teams regarding their scheduled training sessions well in advance of the first game.

On the eve of the first ODI, Pakistan was scheduled to train at the ground from 12 PM to 3 PM local time, while New Zealand was scheduled from 3 PM to 6 PM.

The Pakistan team never showed up at 12 PM and instead arrived at 3:20 PM, expecting to train. The ground staff informed them that their time was over and that the NZ team was now using the facilities. Some of the Pakistan players began arguing—despite not understanding a word of English—until the staff showed them the email confirmation sent to PCB management, which clearly outlined the timings.

You can’t even show up on time, and then you have the audacity to argue? How clueless are these players and the management? What are they even doing on this tour? This is not Gaddafi Stadium, where they can just turn up whenever they please. They are touring abroad—the least they could do is respect the people who help organize the matches, especially when they are 100% at fault. And no, fasting in Ramadan is not an excuse for this behavior.

Professionalism demands proactive communication, ensuring that messages reach the players and that they conduct themselves properly at all times.

Despite this blunder, the ground staff still accommodated Pakistan by allowing them to train in the indoor facilities while the NZ team trained outside.

However, even inside the facility, Pakistan players showed a lack of basic awareness. There were clear signs stating: “Do not hit the ball against the wooden slabs.” Either these players cannot read and comprehend basic English or they are simply too ignorant to care—because they repeatedly ignored the signs and continued hitting cover drives against the slabs.

The ground staff had to intervene and remind them that they were free to hit the ball as hard as they wanted inside the designated indoor nets, which had proper protection. Some of the players still did not understand until Mohammed Yousuf translated and then decided to have a 15 minute net session himself.

Is this level of stupidity acceptable from an international team? As a Kiwi-Pakistani, I can confidently say: I will never follow any Pakistan game that does not involve NZ. This level of incompetence is beyond embarrassing on a global stage.
 
Expected NZ to be gracious hosts but if they wanna make PCT look foolish by showing off and being politically correct it’s not the right thing and now what decent men must do.

Also a batter has to practice his complete range of shots. To ask the team to restrict their natural game in practice is not only making the practice useless but would be counter productive to the team as the players might forget to play shots like cover drive if mentally conditioned not to play such shots in practice.
 
Excellent post. A very important one.

This is what happens when you appoint a circus

Expected NZ to be gracious hosts but if they wanna make PCT look foolish by showing off and being politically correct it’s not the right thing and now what decent men must do.

Also a batter has to practice his complete range of shots. To ask the team to restrict their natural game in practice is not only making the practice useless but would be counter productive to the team as the players might forget to play shots like cover drive if mentally conditioned not to play such shots in practice.
NZ has always been gracious hosts to any touring teams be it any sport or event.

Stop blaming others for PCBs own foolishness and incompetence. What is the excuse for being 3.5 hrs late? Even if they confused their session timings for 3-6pm they came at 3:20. I know Pakistan and punctuality don’t go well together but in the west you normally start by apologising when you are even 2 minutes late instead of arguing when you’re in the wrong being 3.5 hrs late…

The ground staff never said they could not play cover drives? You have misinterpreted it completely. They simply said do not hit the wooden slabs in the areas outside of the nets. When they are in the indoor nets with protection covering all angles they are free to play as many shots as they want including the cover drive.

Maybe show up to the actual ground training on time next time and you won’t have to worry about the rules within indoor facilities.
 
The captain of Pakistan is excellent at making WhatsApp groups, selecting a designated room for prayer, ensuring white chaadar’s are laid out and making sure no Non-Muslim enters that area…

But he cannot organise his team to arrive at a scheduled 12:00pm training session, arriving 3 and a half hours late….
 
What are these guys doing on tour during Ramadhan? What time is Suhoor in NZ? Let’s say 5:00am…

Why are they not going to sleep at night, waking up for Suhoor and then going back to sleep?

I heard some guys on YouTube speculating that the Pakistan team clearly haven’t slept enough before the first ODI match. It was visible on their faces and their performance showed for it. What are they doing at night?
 
Expected NZ to be gracious hosts but if they wanna make PCT look foolish by showing off and being politically correct it’s not the right thing and now what decent men must do.

Also a batter has to practice his complete range of shots. To ask the team to restrict their natural game in practice is not only making the practice useless but would be counter productive to the team as the players might forget to play shots like cover drive if mentally conditioned not to play such shots in practice.
NZC didn't release any of this information. It seems to be inside info. that OP knows about. For the national cricket team to be behaving like this is frankly a bit embarrassing. Even if the players lack proper education, its the job of the team management to ensure they are more professional, on time and not behaving like this.
 
NZC didn't release any of this information. It seems to be inside info. that OP knows about. For the national cricket team to be behaving like this is frankly a bit embarrassing. Even if the players lack proper education, its the job of the team management to ensure they are more professional, on time and not behaving like this.
None of the clown PCB tout journalists highlighted this either.

What’s the point of them getting paid by their news outlets to travel with the team as the first reporters if they cannot bring such information to the public?
 
NZC didn't release any of this information. It seems to be inside info. that OP knows about. For the national cricket team to be behaving like this is frankly a bit embarrassing. Even if the players lack proper education, its the job of the team management to ensure they are more professional, on time and not behaving like this.

Brother this is not a confirmed report like you said and the poster is also not of high reputation like @Major bhai that we can trust his word. There is a lot of negative campaign going on so I request everyone to tread with caution and not make strong judgements without the facts are verified by a reputed source or poster .
 
There isnt any source of this.

Also, players dont show up randomly for practice in another country.

There is a team manager whose job is cordinate such logistics and i think the manager is naveed akram cheema who is quite experienced as a team ma ager.

So if this goof up took place, it would his fault. Players are told the itinerary and they follow it.

We dont know if it actually happened, so if it did happened than th team ma ager is at fault
 
There isnt any source of this.

Also, players dont show up randomly for practice in another country.

There is a team manager whose job is cordinate such logistics and i think the manager is naveed akram cheema who is quite experienced as a team ma ager.

So if this goof up took place, it would his fault. Players are told the itinerary and they follow it.

We dont know if it actually happened, so if it did happened than th team ma ager is at fault

The guy claimed Pakistan trained indoors after not getting the 3pm outdoor slot having missed their 12:00pm one


This is a fact. So why doubt his other claims? They are quite specific in detail. You really cannot just make that up unless there is close first hand information.
 
The guy claimed Pakistan trained indoors after not getting the 3pm outdoor slot having missed their 12:00pm one


This is a fact. So why doubt his other claims? They are quite specific in detail. You really cannot just make that up unless there is close first hand information.
So how are the players to be blamed? Its the managers fault than
 
I recently heard from a close source in NZ Cricket who described the Pakistan team’s approach as “careless and lacking situational awareness.”

We often hear these criticisms after a Pakistan loss, but this was before the first ODI in Napier even began.

We all know the current Pakistan team is miles behind other top sides in all aspects—whether it’s planning, execution, or adapting to match situations. But it’s still hard to believe that a group of international cricketers and team management could be this incompetent.

The Napier ground staff, along with the NZ Cricket Board, had sent multiple communications to both the Pakistan and New Zealand teams regarding their scheduled training sessions well in advance of the first game.

On the eve of the first ODI, Pakistan was scheduled to train at the ground from 12 PM to 3 PM local time, while New Zealand was scheduled from 3 PM to 6 PM.

The Pakistan team never showed up at 12 PM and instead arrived at 3:20 PM, expecting to train. The ground staff informed them that their time was over and that the NZ team was now using the facilities. Some of the Pakistan players began arguing—despite not understanding a word of English—until the staff showed them the email confirmation sent to PCB management, which clearly outlined the timings.

You can’t even show up on time, and then you have the audacity to argue? How clueless are these players and the management? What are they even doing on this tour? This is not Gaddafi Stadium, where they can just turn up whenever they please. They are touring abroad—the least they could do is respect the people who help organize the matches, especially when they are 100% at fault. And no, fasting in Ramadan is not an excuse for this behavior.

Professionalism demands proactive communication, ensuring that messages reach the players and that they conduct themselves properly at all times.

Despite this blunder, the ground staff still accommodated Pakistan by allowing them to train in the indoor facilities while the NZ team trained outside.

However, even inside the facility, Pakistan players showed a lack of basic awareness. There were clear signs stating: “Do not hit the ball against the wooden slabs.” Either these players cannot read and comprehend basic English or they are simply too ignorant to care—because they repeatedly ignored the signs and continued hitting cover drives against the slabs.

The ground staff had to intervene and remind them that they were free to hit the ball as hard as they wanted inside the designated indoor nets, which had proper protection. Some of the players still did not understand until Mohammed Yousuf translated and then decided to have a 15 minute net session himself.

Is this level of stupidity acceptable from an international team? As a Kiwi-Pakistani, I can confidently say: I will never follow any Pakistan game that does not involve NZ. This level of incompetence is beyond embarrassing on a global stage.
anecdote time. during 1996 sahara cup, i attended a match which was rain affected and reduced numbers. So there was not much time for practice and both India and Pakistan hardly practiced on the ground. It was mostly just warm up. So the ground staff had not setup everything, like nets and other things. Number of balls were also less as they were just expecting the match to start anytime and players were generally just having some fun while warming up. For whatever reason this situation infuriated Saqlain who was just walking around. It was as if ground staff conspired against only him and he is not able to practice. He was incessantly arguing with the support staff who were local ground staff with not much knowledge of the game. They also did not speak any other language other than English. Saqlain used all choice words in Urdu and spoke so badly that local ground staff knew they were getting abused. They brought their manager and Wasim Akramhad to interfere to cool down stuff. That was one of weirdest ego trips i have seen a player go into. To his credit Akram was very friendly and really level headed and handled the situation. Some times these players are real idiots
 
Expected NZ to be gracious hosts but if they wanna make PCT look foolish by showing off and being politically correct it’s not the right thing and now what decent men must do.

Also a batter has to practice his complete range of shots. To ask the team to restrict their natural game in practice is not only making the practice useless but would be counter productive to the team as the players might forget to play shots like cover drive if mentally conditioned not to play such shots in practice.
lol, have you practiced in indoor professional facilities? there are lots of restrictions. You need to follow them. Just cannot go around hitting whatever and wherever you want. Usually indoor facilities are for focused practice and not for doing everything a players wants to do. That is the reason teams don't practice there full time. Here NZ has accommodated the PCT despite braindead stuff from PCT managers.
 
The captain of Pakistan is excellent at making WhatsApp groups, selecting a designated room for prayer, ensuring white chaadar’s are laid out and making sure no Non-Muslim enters that area…

But he cannot organise his team to arrive at a scheduled 12:00pm training session, arriving 3 and a half hours late….
this is not captain's fault. There are team managers and coaches to take care of these things. Arranging and conducting practice sessions is core responsibility of whoever is Pak's coach (Younis??)
 
this is not captain's fault. There are team managers and coaches to take care of these things. Arranging and conducting practice sessions is core responsibility of whoever is Pak's coach (Younis??)
naa, he googles pakistan cricket news everyday and looks for ways to bash Rizwan.

I bet he was blaming Rizwan for the Rauf kit fiasco.
 
Brother this is not a confirmed report like you said and the poster is also not of high reputation like @Major bhai that we can trust his word. There is a lot of negative campaign going on so I request everyone to tread with caution and not make strong judgements without the facts are verified by a reputed source or poster .
OP is making some very specific claims. Unless he is lying or making this up, these are not that hard to believe. Particularly the one about them not being on time for training. You're right in that we probably shouldn't make strong judgments but the fact that I and most people didn't even question it says alot about the perception around this team.
 
OP is making some very specific claims. Unless he is lying or making this up, these are not that hard to believe. Particularly the one about them not being on time for training. You're right in that we probably shouldn't make strong judgments but the fact that I and most people didn't even question it says alot about the perception around this team.

The guy asked @Mohraheem to provide proof against his specific claim against Iftikhar,

He labeled Sarfaraz as the captain from ICA, conveniently forgetting Misbah was the original captain who brought in all the ICA players…

He now denies this is the player’s fault even though the claim by OP was that the players were told to follow I specific indoor facilities rules which they did not adhere to.


I bet you he will ask for no evidence of any wrong doing from Sarfaraz, Imad and Amir.
 
The guy asked @Mohraheem to provide proof against his specific claim against Iftikhar,

He labeled Sarfaraz as the captain from ICA, conveniently forgetting Misbah was the original captain who brought in all the ICA players…

He now denies this is the player’s fault even though the claim by OP was that the players were told to follow I specific indoor facilities rules which they did not adhere to.


I bet you he will ask for no evidence of any wrong doing from Sarfaraz, Imad and Amir.
@Bhaijaan is my bro who I hold in very high regard. He is entitled to his opinion even if I don't always agree with it.
 
So how are the players to be blamed? Its the managers fault than
Of course it’s a collective failure of players and management. The players can’t force the management to get them to a venue they are scheduled to be at…

But the truth that is there for all to see is the casual, laid back and seriously unprofessional approach by the entire lot which reflected in the first ODI where Pakistan picked 4 seamers, and took more than the allotted time to complete their innings with the ball. This lazy approach is the result of a captain who clearly seems to have no regard for time keeping and basic ethics. It’s the players who are disregarding the indoor facility rules by doing exactly that which they were requested not to do.

Maybe the No hit zone was on the right ganders leg side and Rizwan couldn’t give a damn considering his entire practice is to strengthen his leg side only.
 
I think it's true but I agree with @Major it's the fault of management not the players.

However to answer the wider question from the OP then yes the players do lack common sense. Most are school drop outs with no interaction with wider world apart from their small circles.
 
But it’s still hard to believe that a group of international cricketers and team management could be this incompetent.

This annoys guys like @Major a lot because his champion leader/captain Misbah was the one who originally empowered most of this core group from his ICA+ SNGPL manipulation moves when he became the coach of Pakistan.

He introduced and empowered these into Pakistan cricket
 
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The team manager + coaching staff failed at their jobs here.

They are responsible for being on top of these things, while the players follow their lead. It reeks of unprofessionalism, which seems common in Pakistani cricket these days.

As for not reading the sign, It's again the coaching staff's fault. Perhaps the captain's too (on a lesser level). They need to be able to convey these details to the rest of the players.
 
I recently heard from a close source in NZ Cricket who described the Pakistan team’s approach as “careless and lacking situational awareness.”

We often hear these criticisms after a Pakistan loss, but this was before the first ODI in Napier even began.

We all know the current Pakistan team is miles behind other top sides in all aspects—whether it’s planning, execution, or adapting to match situations. But it’s still hard to believe that a group of international cricketers and team management could be this incompetent.

The Napier ground staff, along with the NZ Cricket Board, had sent multiple communications to both the Pakistan and New Zealand teams regarding their scheduled training sessions well in advance of the first game.

On the eve of the first ODI, Pakistan was scheduled to train at the ground from 12 PM to 3 PM local time, while New Zealand was scheduled from 3 PM to 6 PM.

The Pakistan team never showed up at 12 PM and instead arrived at 3:20 PM, expecting to train. The ground staff informed them that their time was over and that the NZ team was now using the facilities. Some of the Pakistan players began arguing—despite not understanding a word of English—until the staff showed them the email confirmation sent to PCB management, which clearly outlined the timings.

You can’t even show up on time, and then you have the audacity to argue? How clueless are these players and the management? What are they even doing on this tour? This is not Gaddafi Stadium, where they can just turn up whenever they please. They are touring abroad—the least they could do is respect the people who help organize the matches, especially when they are 100% at fault. And no, fasting in Ramadan is not an excuse for this behavior.

Professionalism demands proactive communication, ensuring that messages reach the players and that they conduct themselves properly at all times.

Despite this blunder, the ground staff still accommodated Pakistan by allowing them to train in the indoor facilities while the NZ team trained outside.

However, even inside the facility, Pakistan players showed a lack of basic awareness. There were clear signs stating: “Do not hit the ball against the wooden slabs.” Either these players cannot read and comprehend basic English or they are simply too ignorant to care—because they repeatedly ignored the signs and continued hitting cover drives against the slabs.

The ground staff had to intervene and remind them that they were free to hit the ball as hard as they wanted inside the designated indoor nets, which had proper protection. Some of the players still did not understand until Mohammed Yousuf translated and then decided to have a 15 minute net session himself.

Is this level of stupidity acceptable from an international team? As a Kiwi-Pakistani, I can confidently say: I will never follow any Pakistan game that does not involve NZ. This level of incompetence is beyond embarrassing on a global stage.
Its the job of Team Management to organize training sessions and to ensure that players stick to the schedule and are facilitated to adhere to the schedule (transport, food etc)

Having said, most of the (current) players are school dropouts with no sense of organizational or travel experience and no communication skills.
 
I have no reason to be making this stuff up. The Pakistan teams performance says it all. There is no professionalism at all, instead they are always focused on making excuses and trying to shift the blame on someone or something else.

It’s funny how Pakistan media reports say they trained indoor because of ‘rain’. How did the NZ team train outdoor at the same time then?

My source is a Pakistani kiwi who has been working closely with NZ cricket for over 20 years and told us this at a Eid gathering. He witnessed this with his own eyes and expressed his disappointment saying this team including management does not deserve to be a top cricketing side because of their own actions.
 
Common sense is something that is not very common. These guys are afraid, weak and not willing to work hard and think out of the box.
 
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