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Is destroying idols part of Islam?

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If yes then why didn’t Hazrat Umar and other Rashidun caliphs destroy sphinx and other pyramids in Egypt?
 
Didn't somebody try to damage the Sphinx's nose once?
 
British hooligans with an anti-tank gun, I heard.

But google says this:

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When Muslims conquered Mecca, the idols in Kaaba were destroyed by them. Lets wait for some knowledgeable poster to explain this.
 
Destroying?
Under Islamic guidance, one should not instigate to even verbally defame the gods of other religions.

Kaaba housed several idols that were worshipped by pagans. Muhammed (PBUH) himself destroyed the statue of Hubal.

Thats in history. Those were gods of another religion, so you are wrong in your statement.
 
When Muslims conquered Mecca, the idols in Kaaba were destroyed by them. Lets wait for some knowledgeable poster to explain this.

Destroy is a too strong word. Bricks and stones need any power to break them.

Idols were removed from the Kaaba because nobody wanted them any longer as the whole town accepted Islam.

As for the OP, not worshipping idols or any other deity is part of Islam. Breaking sticks and stones isnt.
 
From what I know they are to be destroyed within the Hijaz area. They are allowed to exist in Muslim majority countries if people ca see the difference.
 
Pyramids are not idols. Where did you read this?

Pryramids represent the gates from death to life or simply, life after death, and the sphinx is a symbolic guardian to the gate. Hence neither represent a God thus are not classified as idols.
 
If yes then why didn’t Hazrat Umar and other Rashidun caliphs destroy sphinx and other pyramids in Egypt?

Islam does not condone destroying of any idols, and teaches Muslims to respect other religions. Based on medieval values Muslim empires were mostly tolerant. However that does not mean some Muslim King didnt do bad things. Also since you mentioned Egypt, it took 500 years for Muslims to be a majority their after they conquered it.
 
When Muslims conquered Mecca, the idols in Kaaba were destroyed by them. Lets wait for some knowledgeable poster to explain this.

The conquest of Mecca was the last battle between Muslims and the Quraysh.

Islam started in Mecca and the pagans were persecuting Muslims for years before Muslims ever picked up the sword. Muslims had to flee to Medina and had all their wealth seized. That was the reason they raided pagans caravans. However those raids led to the pagans attacking Medina in attempt to finish Muslims off.

Even though the Muslims were outnumbered they managed to defend Medina, and they negotiated a truce for 10 years. This truce was broken by the pagans, which led to the liberation of Mecca.

Islam gives Muslims the right to self-defense. They did not ask for this war.
 
The conquest of Mecca was the last battle between Muslims and the Quraysh.

Islam started in Mecca and the pagans were persecuting Muslims for years before Muslims ever picked up the sword. Muslims had to flee to Medina and had all their wealth seized. That was the reason they raided pagans caravans. However those raids led to the pagans attacking Medina in attempt to finish Muslims off.

Even though the Muslims were outnumbered they managed to defend Medina, and they negotiated a truce for 10 years. This truce was broken by the pagans, which led to the liberation of Mecca.

Islam gives Muslims the right to self-defense. They did not ask for this war.

Do you have any proof that Pagans were persecuting Muslims? When Prophet was in Mecca, he barely had 100 followers.
 
Do you have any proof that Pagans were persecuting Muslims? When Prophet was in Mecca, he barely had 100 followers.

It is well documented in history that Muhammed PBUH and his followers were persecuted by the non Muslim establishment in Mecca because they felt the new religion was bad for their business.

Here is a source you might consider neutral that states the same:

https://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/p...n in Mecca became,followers to leave the city.


Muhammad
Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, was born in Mecca around the year 570. Orphaned before he had reached the age of six, he was raised under the protection of his uncle Abu Talib. Muhammad began working as a merchant and became known for his trustworthiness.

When he was about twenty-five, he married Khadija, a wealthy widow whose status elevated Muhammad's position in Meccan society. Muhammad and Khadija had four daughters and two sons, both of whom died in infancy. About fifteen or twenty years after his marriage, he began to have visions and hear mysterious voices. He sought solitude in a cave on Mount Hira on the outskirts of Mecca. One night during Ramadan, the traditional month of spiritual retreat, when Muhammad was about forty years old, an angel appeared to him in the form of a man and ordered him to;

Recite in the name of thy lord who created,
Created man from a clot;
Recite in the name of thy lord,
Who taught by the pen,
Taught man what he knew not.
Muhammad, fearing that he was being attacked by an evil spirit, fled down the mountain in terror. The voice called after him, "O Muhammad, you are the messenger of God, and I am the angel Gabriel." This revelation was soon followed by others about the one true God. Eventually, the angel told Muhammad to begin proclaiming God's message.

Muhammad slowly began to attract some followers, most of them young and of modest social standing, including his cousin Ali, the son of his uncle and protector Abu Talib. When Muhammad began to impugn the traditional polytheism of his native town, the rich and powerful merchants of Mecca realized that the religious revolution taking place under their noses might be disastrous for business, which was protected by the Meccan pantheon of gods and goddesses. The ruling elite ganged up against Muhammad and his followers, and began to persecute them. A few Meccans began to accept Muhammad's message, while other members of his clan came to support their kinsman out of family loyalty, even if they did not yet believe in his cause.

Muhammad's position in Mecca became hopeless when his wife Khadija and uncle Abu Talib died in quick succession. In 622 the local rulers of Mecca forced Muhammad and his small band of followers to leave the city. Muhammad accepted an invitation to settle in the oasis of Yathrib, located some eleven days (280 miles) north by camel, for the oasis had been nearly torn apart by wars between the clans, of which many were Jewish.

Muhammad's hegira from Mecca marks the beginning of a new polity. For the first time in Arabia members of a community were bound together not by the traditional ties of clan and tribe but by their shared belief in the one true God. Later believers, looking back on this event, recognized its seminal importance by designating it as the first year of their new era. In further recognition of this great event, the oasis of Yathrib came to be called Medina, "the city [of the Prophet]."

Muhammad, surrounded by his followers, lived in Medina for ten years, slowly winning over converts. Muhammad made repeated attempts to attract the Jews to his cause, for example, he directed that believers worship like the Jews in the direction of Jerusalem. Ultimately these attempts failed, and henceforth Muslims prayed in the direction of the Kaaba in Mecca. Muhammad's native town, which had long been a center of paganism, thereby became the center of the true religion, the focal point of the believers' daily prayer, and eventually the object of their annual pilgrimage.

Raiding and warfare were the primary economic activities of the new community in Medina, and the rich caravans organized by the Quraysh of Mecca were particularly attractive targets. In 628, Muhammad finally negotiated a truce with the Meccans and in the following year returned as a pilgrim to the city's holy sites. The murder of one of his followers provoked him to attack the city, which soon surrendered. Muhammad acted generously to the Meccans, demanding only that the pagan idols around the Kaaba be destroyed. Muhammad's prestige grew after the surrender of the Meccans. Embassies from all over Arabia came to Medina to submit to him. Muhammad's extraordinary life and career were cut short by his sudden death on June 8, 632, aged about sixty, less than a decade since he had set off from Mecca with his small band of followers.

Muslims to this day revere Muhammad as the embodiment of the perfect believer and take his actions and sayings as a model of ideal conduct. Unlike Jesus, who Christians believe was God's son, Muhammad was a mortal, albeit with extraordinary qualities. Today many Muslims believe that it is wrong to represent Muhammad, but this was not always the case. At various times and places pious Muslims represented Muhammad although they never worshipped these images.
 
Do you have any proof that Pagans were persecuting Muslims? When Prophet was in Mecca, he barely had 100 followers.

Lol please do some basic research once a while. Especially about a topic which has tons of resources.

There was a literal economic boycott aimed to punish Muslims in Makkah
 
yeah their persecution is more than well documented by historians all over the world and in great detail. There is significant historical evidence of it you can easily find by using Google.
 
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