Is halal diet or lookalike the way forward?

[Itachi]

Name the diseases please. I am curious to know

Practically none. Bacteria needs an incubation period inside the host before it acts on the body and this can't occur in a constant flow of stream such as blood.

If bacteria comes in contact with blood in big amount where even immunity does fail (very rare case) it becomes systemic. And instead of transmission, it will proflierate which in most cases, would be lethal.

 

[uberkoen]

Not possible when Pak was formed in the name of Islam. Should have remained with India if secularism was what we wanted. Millions died for nothing then.

It wasn't. Get yourself a history lesson.

 

[uberkoen]

I wish you knew what halal was. It is much more then praying words on an animal.

Tell us what halal is then and how is it better than non halal?

 

[Nadeemp]

The question for the other poster who keeps saying “ even a child knows this”. As someone said before yes you can catch something from an unclean animal, but so can you catch something from unwashed carrots or not properly handled eggs. Religion( any) does not dictate that.

 

[Tubs]

Of course you dont. No surprises there.

Lets see, you find it odd when people eat a certain way where their religion guide them too, but vegans/vegetarians who refuse to eat meat on the grounds of morality are well within their rights to force their thinking on society.

Yeah no connection whats so ever.

The distinction is that when vegans argue from a moral perspective, and proselytising their philosophy, it's because it's not a choice for the animals that get slaughtered.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What my opinion here is, what is allowed/disallowed is based upon human knowledge of centuys ago. It is time, these have to change. For example, neurocysticercosis was attributed to pork tape worm but in modern years, you have more chance to suffer from for eating carrots (uncooked) as a salad than eating pork. Carrots should also be banned since it is more hazardous than pork itself.I agree it's time to change diet. But based upon what medical science tells us, it shouldn't be dictated by religion.

Any evidence for this? To any poster please reply.

 

[PakLFC]

It wasn't. Get yourself a history lesson.

Learn how to read otherwise stop blabbering senseless rubbish.

 

[PakLFC]

Tell us what halal is then and how is it better than non halal?

The blood is drained out making it much more safer. Another thing is halaal means dirty animals are not edible.

 

[Nadeemp]

The blood is drained out making it much more safer. Another thing is halaal means dirty animals are not edible.

There is no scientific proof of that. I have lived a good part of my life in spain where they don’t do that and have never been eating pork/beef/lamb

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The question for the other poster who keeps saying “ even a child knows this”. As someone said before yes you can catch something from an unclean animal, but so can you catch something from unwashed carrots or not properly handled eggs. Religion( any) does not dictate that.

You can wash unwashed carrots, or buy properly handled eggs.

 

[PakLFC]

There is no scientific proof of that. I have lived a good part of my life in spain where they don’t do that and have never been eating pork/beef/lamb

A blind person can't see! There is plenty of evidence favouring halal food. The coronavirus hitting China is partly coz those people eat anything. That even non Muslim's will never eat mice, elephants, horses and most animals prove something inside them doesn't allow them too.

 

[miandadrules]

A blind person can't see! There is plenty of evidence favouring halal food. The coronavirus hitting China is partly coz those people eat anything. That even non Muslim's will never eat mice, elephants, horses and most animals prove something inside them doesn't allow them too.

Can you please provide some of the sources which support the superiority of halal meat?

Also, as a medical professional, I’m interested to know which diet is responsible for the coronavirus?

 

[Nadeemp]

A blind person can't see! There is plenty of evidence favouring halal food. The coronavirus hitting China is partly coz those people eat anything. That even non Muslim's will never eat mice, elephants, horses and most animals prove something inside them doesn't allow them too.

Once again not evidence. Just empty statements

 

[Nadeemp]

You can wash unwashed carrots, or buy properly handled eggs.

You can also buy properly stored meat.

 

[CricketDon]

Once again not evidence. Just empty statements

He’s a notorious poster for this sort of stuff. He’d rant and rave and cry you’re stupid. Soon as you ask for evidence he loses it and runs away. Then comes back and ignored the question of providing evidence and begins to either call you, a troll, indian or stupid.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You can also buy properly stored meat.

Yes you can. We Muslims prefer to drain the blood first as we don't want to consume it.

 

[uberkoen]

Yes you can. We Muslims prefer to drain the blood first as we don't want to consume it.

It is a preference which is fine. There is no scientific backing of it being healthier.

 

[Dead Ball]

Is halal diet or a diet closer to halal diet principles, the way forward even if you are not a muslim?

Halal diet implies that meat cut by a non muslim is unfit for consumption, and is therefore inherently discriminatory.

No thanks.

 

[PakLFC]

Can you please provide some of the sources which support the superiority of halal meat?

Also, as a medical professional, I’m interested to know which diet is responsible for the coronavirus?

 

[PakLFC]

He’s a notorious poster for this sort of stuff. He’d rant and rave and cry you’re stupid. Soon as you ask for evidence he loses it and runs away. Then comes back and ignored the question of providing evidence and begins to either call you, a troll, indian or stupid.

Talking about me?? Where did I run away from a sensible debate? What question are you asking? Rather when I provide evidence people like you ignore it coz you stand exposed and shattered. I am here to take care of you atheists ciz someone has to do it so I have taken it upon myself.

 

[PakLFC]

Once again not evidence. Just empty statements

What kind of evidence are you seeking that a cow should tell you "I prefer being killed the halaal way"? The thing is nothing will satisfy atheists or enemies of religion. If anyone says consuming pork is good you'll say show me that it is good for me!!?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It is a preference which is fine. There is no scientific backing of it being healthier.

That's fine as I don't need scientific reasons not to eat blood soaked meat.

 

[CricketDon]

So two white non Muslims endorsed it and that too in a newspaper makes it evidence Jesus this is laughable. My god is this embarrassing.

Also halal also states “ that meat cut by a non muslim is unfit for consumption”. What’s scientific about that? Someone’s ideological belief makes it safer.

Give it up.

 

[PakLFC]

So two white non Muslims endorsed it and that too in a newspaper makes it evidence Jesus this is laughable. My god is this embarrassing.

Also halal also states “ that meat cut by a non muslim is unfit for consumption”. What’s scientific about that? Someone’s ideological belief makes it safer.

Give it up.

I am afraid Muslim can not give up the importance of halal as it extends to other matters outside food as well. So what kinda evidence do you want that a cow should tell you"Moooooo, halaal meat is good for yooooo!!"? Coz a non Muslim does not sacrifice the animal in the name of Allah. Makes perfect sense for those who understand. See you suffer from an illness that has no cure. No amount of evidence will please you.

 

[Nadeemp]

I am afraid Muslim can not give up the importance of halal as it extends to other matters outside food as well. So what kinda evidence do you want that a cow should tell you"Moooooo, halaal meat is good for yooooo!!"? Coz a non Muslim does not sacrifice the animal in the name of Allah. Makes perfect sense for those who understand. See you suffer from an illness that has no cure. No amount of evidence will please you.

Yes a mooooo from a cow and the cows endorsement in englishs

 

[PakLFC]

Yes a mooooo from a cow and the cows endorsement in englishs

May be the cow won't moo at atheists after all you don't want halal food.

 

[Itachi]

I am afraid Muslim can not give up the importance of halal as it extends to other matters outside food as well. So what kinda evidence do you want that a cow should tell you"Moooooo, halaal meat is good for yooooo!!"? Coz a non Muslim does not sacrifice the animal in the name of Allah. Makes perfect sense for those who understand. See you suffer from an illness that has no cure. No amount of evidence will please you.

The question that he was asking was, since non Muslim doesn't kill the animal in the name of Allah, what changes it brings to the meat for which, those killed by non Muslims will spread disease while those killed by Muslims won't.

 

[CricketDon]

Yes a mooooo from a cow and the cows endorsement in englishs

Haha he’s so funny I’m in tears reading his responses

He reminds me of the cry baby trump

 

[Itachi]

See you suffer from an illness that has no cure.

I used to think religion, the concept was God was created to spread love, sense of forgiveness. Then there are people who are intolerant. Just because he doesn't agree with your views, you wish him suffering from diseases. No wonder with this type mentality, one would resort to violence as he has been writing.

I am an Atheist. And even if I do disagree with views from anyone, I wouldn't wish any bad for him. It isn't believing God which defines people. It is the people who defines himself.

 

[PakLFC]

The question that he was asking was, since non Muslim doesn't kill the animal in the name of Allah, what changes it brings to the meat for which, those killed by non Muslims will spread disease while those killed by Muslims won't.

It is harmful to the health of those who eat non halal. It is not refusing to mention Allah that is causing damage more so how the animal is slaughtered.

 

[PakLFC]

I used to think religion, the concept was God was created to spread love, sense of forgiveness. Then there are people who are intolerant. Just because he doesn't agree with your views, you wish him suffering from diseases. No wonder with this type mentality, one would resort to violence as he has been writing.

I am an Atheist. And even if I do disagree with views from anyone, I wouldn't wish any bad for him. It isn't believing God which defines people. It is the people who defines himself.

Where did I wish any killer disease on him? I am calling his inability to understand me a disease if you cared to read my previous comments properly. The problem is with you atheists who like to dish it out then start crying when the shoe is put on the other foot. Most religious people are not violent rather it is the atheists who under the garb of free speech who spread hate and intolerance.

 

[PakLFC]

Haha he’s so funny I’m in tears reading his responses��

He reminds me of the cry baby trump ��

I think you are actually crying not laughing! Taking on all you atheists makes me feel good.

 

[Itachi]

It is harmful to the health of those who eat non halal. It is not refusing to mention Allah that is causing damage more so how the animal is slaughtered.

All I am asking is, how a non halal meat is unhealthy.

Let's clear it first.

What is the definition of halal meat according to you? Because clearly, you and I hold two different definitions of it. Lets remove the ambiguity.

 

[PakLFC]

The question that he was asking was, since non Muslim doesn't kill the animal in the name of Allah, what changes it brings to the meat for which, those killed by non Muslims will spread disease while those killed by Muslims won't.

The animal feels no pain when sacrificed in the name of Allah. It just submits peacefully as opposed to those who kill it animals insensitively. It is a miracle that comes with the name of Allah.

 

[PakLFC]

All I am asking is, how a non halal meat is unhealthy.

Let's clear it first.

What is the definition of halal meat according to you? Because clearly, you and I hold two different definitions of it. Lets remove the ambiguity.

Non halal meat is unhealthy coz the blood is not drained out. This makes the consumer vulnerable to many forms of disease. Did you not watch the video I posted?. Halal is when the animal is slaughtered with the jugular vein being sliced. Then the blood is drained out whilst the name of Allah/prayer is said.

 

[PakLFC]

The RSS regularly get involved attacking those who attack their religious views. I am not saying what they are doing is right but just making a point.

 

[Itachi]

Non halal meat is unhealthy coz the blood is not drained out. This makes the consumer vulnerable to many forms of disease. Did you not watch the video I posted?. Halal is when the animal is slaughtered with the jugular vein being sliced. Then the blood is drained out whilst the name of Allah/prayer is said.

I watched the video. I will ask you not to goto such doctors for medical emergencies.

After the bit about cholesterol level explanation, I have realized what his competence will be. If any Muslim doctors are here, watch the video and check how factually incorrect he is.

You wouldn't believe my explanation as I am non Muslim. . So I'll leave it to the Muslim doctors whom I am hoping will clarify the errors in his words.

 

[Itachi]

The animal feels no pain when sacrificed in the name of Allah. It just submits peacefully as opposed to those who kill it animals insensitively. It is a miracle that comes with the name of Allah.

what about humans? Isn't human race is taken as social animal?

 

[CricketDon]

I think you are actually crying not laughing! Taking on all you atheists makes me feel good.

My god you’re the gift that keeps give f ain’t you who are you the atheist hunting Batman

 

[Nadeemp]

The animal feels no pain when sacrificed in the name of Allah. It just submits peacefully as opposed to those who kill it animals insensitively. It is a miracle that comes with the name of Allah.

Any proof to back this up?

 

[Nadeemp]

Non halal meat is unhealthy coz the blood is not drained out. This makes the consumer vulnerable to many forms of disease. Did you not watch the video I posted?. Halal is when the animal is slaughtered with the jugular vein being sliced. Then the blood is drained out whilst the name of Allah/prayer is said.

Proof please

 

[light]

What exactly do you mean by halal diet? As in animals killed in 'halal' way for consumption?

True story: we were having a get together, pak friend of mine comes near the BBQ and be like is that pork to which my friend replied as yes. He goes on to say, is it halal (not as a joke - guy is clueless most of the time)? Needless to say, I snorted 7up out of my nose and bursted in laughter

 

[light]

The animal feels no pain when sacrificed in the name of Allah. It just submits peacefully as opposed to those who kill it animals insensitively. It is a miracle that comes with the name of Allah.

I know that majority forum members here are Muslim but how in the world did you write that with a straight face? Animals getting their throat cut feels no pain? You living in which dream Land?

 

[Nadeemp]

I know that majority forum members here are Muslim but how in the world did you write that with a straight face? Animals getting their throat cut feels no pain? You living in which dream Land?

“Religion poisons everything”

 

[light]

“Religion poisons everything”

Which is why I left it a long time ago. 2 of the worst creation of mankind
1. Religion
2. Money
Both have caused several wars/discrimination/genocides/list goes on

 

[miandadrules]

Which is why I left it a long time ago. 2 of the worst creation of mankind
1. Religion
2. Money
Both have caused several wars/discrimination/genocides/list goes on

Both are artificial constructs used to control the masses.

 

[PakLFC]

I watched the video. I will ask you not to goto such doctors for medical emergencies.

After the bit about cholesterol level explanation, I have realized what his competence will be. If any Muslim doctors are here, watch the video and check how factually incorrect he is.

You wouldn't believe my explanation as I am non Muslim. . So I'll leave it to the Muslim doctors whom I am hoping will clarify the errors in his words.

You are right. Being a non Muslim your view on such matters are irrelevant to me.

 

[PakLFC]

what about humans? Isn't human race is taken as social animal?

No humans are not animals in my book

 

[PakLFC]

My god you’re the gift that keeps give f ain’t you �������� who are you the atheist hunting Batman ������

I am a Muslim who doesn't believe in Batman nonsense like your type! I outgrew that when you were in your cradle!

 

[PakLFC]

Any proof to back this up?

Islam is the proof and evidence. A blind man knows no colour!

 

[Itachi]

came out from hibernation or what?

 

[sweep_shot]

Naturally a Muslim believes that swine is harmful. Yes I do believe the world will naturally come to accepting the halal way of life not only in regards to food but things like banking as well.

I agree with this post.

Dry fasting (Islamic fasting) is starting to become popular. They now call it a form of intermittent fasting. Check on YouTube.

There is an initiative in Europe currently for a usury-free banking system.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

came out from hibernation or what?

Was probably posting under a different username, and has now switched back.

In any case....welcome back old member!

 

[BreadPakoda]

Halal carts have given me cholesterol levels that I’m finding difficult to bring down. Damn your beef steaks and kebabs. I’m sticking to chicken breast and salmon.