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Is Hashim Amla the best Test batsman of this decade?

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In recent times, the excitement of fans over the emergence of young batting sensations has been remarkable.
Players like Kohli,Warner,Smith,Root,Williamson,Rahane etc have impressed one and all.

However, the best test batsmen in the world have not yet called it a day and have shown no signs of fading.
Amla,ABDV,Sangakarra,Clarke and Cook are still better than their successors by quite a margin.

This makes me wonder, who out of these modern greats has been the most impressive in tests.

I can look no further than :amla who has done well everywhere and in all circumstances.AB falls just behind his teammate in my opinion.

Sanga, Clarke and Cook too have had lots of success in the last decade.

So who according to you was/is the best in the business over the last decade ?
 
What is the last 'decade' for you?

2010s , 2000s or the last 10 years?
 
Yeah, AB, Amla or Sanga. You can choose either one and you won't be wrong.
 
Sanga hands down

he has been a boss in both formats which matter

Amla has statistically been great too but is lacking a headline performance in a crunch match
 
It has to be Sanga because his pure bat stats are much higher and only those really matter.. His career average is worthless :D
 
Amla is def an ATG in the making for Tests. One of the Top 5 Test batsmen atm, but not the best of this decade.

He's also good in LOIs with his freakish average, but so far, he's been a bottler for SA.
 
What is the last 'decade' for you?

2010s , 2000s or the last 10 years?

All the players mentioned in the OP except :sanga made their debut during 04-06.Sanga was quite ordinary for the first 4-5 years of his career and hit his purple patch around 07-08.

I wanted to rule out SRT,Ponting and all from the discussion and wasn't sure how to do it.So i went on with " last decade " probably since 2005
 
Amla is def an ATG in the making for Tests. One of the Top 5 Test batsmen atm, but not the best of this decade.

He's also good in LOIs with his freakish average, but so far, he's been a bottler for SA.

He doesn't bottle in tests.Infact he has played many crunch knocks in tests.

Different story in Odis though :amla
 
Sanga hands down

he has been a boss in both formats which matter

Amla has statistically been great too but is lacking a headline performance in a crunch match

Disagree.

When both formats are considered, it is :abdv hands down.
:sanga is not even close in Odis.

And :amla has played many pressure knocks in tests.His double century against SL in SL last year when rest of the players were schooled by Herath and co. is the most recent example :amla
 
Disagree.

When both formats are considered, it is :abdv hands down.
:sanga is not even close in Odis.

And :amla has played many pressure knocks in tests.His double century against SL in SL last year when rest of the players were schooled by Herath and co. is the most recent example :amla

crunch ODI match i meant :amla

i think ABD has played less great test innings than Sanga

also Sanga has led his side to 2 ODI finals and won 1 T20 WC
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] :amla scored an unbeaten 139 and not a double century.The next best was 37 by :ab and SA folded up for 282.

But you get what i mean :sanga
 
In tests scoring hundreds are like 50s in ODIs. You need big hundreds to be a great test batsman.
 
De villiers 9 out of 21 hundreds are 150+
Amla has only 6 out of 23
Sanga has 19 out of 38
Clarke has 10 out of 28.

Batsman who scores big are the one that shapes a game single handedly. Else you depend on someone else to score the remaining runs.
 
Amla is a monster test batsman.

Don't use his lack of bottle in ODIs as a barometer for his test prowess. The man has played brilliant knocks under pressure in tests.
 
Sangakkara for me is the best Test batsman of the last few years because unlike the two South Africans, he does not have the luxury of playing for the best pace attack in the world for a number of years as well as having the only all-time great fast bowler of his generation in his team.
 
Last decade it would have to be Sanga with AB not far behind. AB will most likely overtake him next couple of years or so tho at the rate he’s going. His numbers since 2008 in both Tests and ODIs are absolutely phenomenal and last few months he has just been out of this world. Never seen any thing like it. Amla would come after those two I would say. He too has been top notch in Tests since 2010 but in ODIs tho tough to rate his 55+ ave since he averages less than 30 against the top 7 in ICC tournies. That’s where he loses a lot of points.
 
I would rank de Villiers at 2 because of his versatility, but I am not totally convinced that the Gujarati has been a better Test batsman than Michael Clarke, who had to carry the Australian batting on his own for a while when Ponting was past it and the likes of Smith and Warner were not ready, and Hussey was fading as well but I don't really rate his as a great Test batsman. Good, but not great. The Gujarati had the luxury of playing with de Villiers, Kallis and Smith.

Cook deserves a mention as well. Easily the most underrated Test batsman of his generation but that is more down to the general anti-English sentiment on this forum. He has been a top class opener for almost a decade and opening remains the toughest job in Test cricket, especially when you play most of your matches in England.

He has also starred in England's greatest overseas wins of the modern era - Ashes 2010/2011 and India 2012-2013. Yes he has had a slump over the last year and a half but every great batsman has gone through a rough patch in his career, otherwise everyone would have Bradman-esque averages.

You also have guys like Pietersen who although not very consistent, has been one of the best match-winning Test batsman in the last 15-20 years and Younis as well, although I don't rate him very highly because he has played very little overseas Tests in the last few years and is a poor player of pace.

Henceforth, I am not completely convinced that the Gujarati is even a top 3 candidate, I will probably still aside with him but it's not as easy as picking the top 2.
 
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^ Come on man, you need to get over the hate. And now you're calling him some new names too. Bad.

Clarke was good for some time, but has been a home track bully, that too he couldn't maintain for a good amount of time. Also mentioning Cook when the likes of ABD, Amla and Sangakkara are being discussed is quite hilarious.

One can pick anyone from ABD, Amla and Sangakkara they're the undisputed kings of Test batting in the current era.
 
It's definitely not hilarious at all, Cook deserves a lot more recognition for his success as a Test opener because opening in Tests is harder than batting at 3 or 4.

The likes of Cook, Smith etc. often go unnoticed when people talk about great Test batsmen and tend to make the discussion only when people talk about great openers only, which is wrong.

A great Test opener deserves more recognition than a great middle-order batsman.
 
OP should just use Statsguru, plug in 2005-2015 test averages and tell us the answer which isn't a guy with a full beard.
 
It is very close between Amla and ABD for the #1 spot. Sangakarra has been a monster as well but most of his success has come on the flat tracks of Sri Lanka, UAE and Bangladesh, hence he falls short. If we give a slight advantage to pace bowlers from the subcontinent, it is only fair that the batsmen from places like South Africa and England get a similar advantage.

Amla has a truly stellar record in test match cricket. He averages 50+ against every team, barring the West Indies and Sri Lanka and only the latter have restricted him from having an average of 45+ against them. He averages nearer to 60 than 50 in Australia and his outstanding averages of 76 in England and 78 in the UAE, both places where some of his contemporaries have fared miserably, only look pitiful when one glances at his Bradman-esque average in India, a mighty 103. His away average is 56 and it is clear that if he didn't play the majority of his games in the African Savannah, his average would be a lot higher. His record proves that there is no type of bowling or any batting condition under which Amla can be tamed.

Nor are these records piled up without a sprinkling of memorable innings every now and then. The finest is arguably, his triple-century, the first by any South African, against the #1 team at that time, England, in their own backyard after the home team had been dismissed for a collective score of less than 300, in the first innings. The way he kept caressing Anderson and Broad to the cover boundary was magical and his rendering of Graeme Swann useless, brutally effective. That mammoth innings ultimately ended up giving South Africa the edge over their opponents for the rest of the series, especially useful since it came in the very first match of the series and getting his name on the Lord's honors board in the final match of the series by scoring another delightful ton was just the icing on the cake.

From monk-like patience and a wielding of the willow that ingrained in the viewers mind that this man was an artist, let's look at the destructive side of his batting. With time running out and a chance at winning a series in Australia fading, Amla led the charge against the Australian attack in Perth, in the second innings, striking at more than a run-a-ball during the major part of his innings, which yielded 196 runs. The two Mitchells and Nathan Lyon were hit to all parts of the ground as Amla gave the Aussies a gallon of their own aggression and being named MOTM for his efforts.

Let's take a long flight down to Nagpur, India to witness another dimension of Amla's batting. An innings of 253* against an Indian attack that boasted two of their finest bowlers ever, Zaheer Khan and Harbhajjan Singh, is more than many batsmen outside the subcontinent can only dream of. Mind you, many batsmen from the subcontinent have also, only dreamed of amassing as many runs in an innings. Surely the Indian dressing-room, containing figures like Sachin Tendulker, Virender Sehwag and Gautham Gambhir, was doing so when they were bowled out for 233, a full 20 runs short of Amla's score. Seam and Spin alike was slaughtered that day, although Amla made a special point to treat the spinners with utter disdain, totally disrespecting the notion that India is the hardest place for batsmen to tour, for batsmen born outside the subcontinent.

The list of memorable innings by Amla is long but unfortunately, I do not possess this man's calm, desire and unerring determination. So I'll just list a few other worthy innings that came off his bat:

- 118 out of a total team score of 249, in Abu Dhabi, UAE. Scored two years ago.
- 139* out of a total team score of 282, in Colombo, Sri Lanka. Scored last year and ensured that South Africa would win their first series in Sri Lanka, since before Amla's predecessor was appointed captain.
- 208 against the West Indies, in Centurion, in his latest test match. Looked at ease throughout his innings and hammered the opposition's bowlers into submission.

With his spot-less record combined with an addiction to scoring genuinely great innings, Amla edges out his contemporary and team-mate, AB de Villiers, as the greatest test batsman of this decade and generation.

TL;DR: Amla has a great beard, therefore he da bomb! :amla
 
De villiers 9 out of 21 hundreds are 150+
Amla has only 6 out of 23
Sanga has 19 out of 38
Clarke has 10 out of 28.

Batsman who scores big are the one that shapes a game single handedly. Else you depend on someone else to score the remaining runs.

Valid point but has its own share of flaws.

A score of exactly 100 in a rank turner Feroz Shah Kotla pitch is better than a 200 in the highways of UAE (in an inevitable draw).So it is unfair to say that centuries cannot shape the course of a test match.
Going by your arguement, Sehwag > Amla which is untrue.Context is equally important.

Amla has a great conversion rate which is as good as having more 150+ scores in the kitty.

Yes this is one aspect where he lags behind others but this is not the last resort criteria.
 
Sangakkara for me is the best Test batsman of the last few years because unlike the two South Africans, he does not have the luxury of playing for the best pace attack in the world for a number of years as well as having the only all-time great fast bowler of his generation in his team.

Well , Abd and Amla don't have the luxury of bashing Bangladesh every year neither do they play 90% of their matches on national highways.
 
It's definitely not hilarious at all, Cook deserves a lot more recognition for his success as a Test opener because opening in Tests is harder than batting at 3 or 4.

The likes of Cook, Smith etc. often go unnoticed when people talk about great Test batsmen and tend to make the discussion only when people talk about great openers only, which is wrong.

A great Test opener deserves more recognition than a great middle-order batsman.

Glad you mentioned Cook.The only player among these who can claim test series victories in India and Australia.And he was one of the major reasons why Eng dominated during that period.

Although he has had the lowest of lows but give me a series win in Australia with the condition of getting whitewashed in future tours and I'll take it anyday.
 
Between 2005 and 2015? No chance.

Between 2010 and now? Still behind Sangakkara and ABDV.
 
OP should just use Statsguru, plug in 2005-2015 test averages and tell us the answer which isn't a guy with a full beard.

And how would that help ???

Everybody knows Sanga has the best stats among these batsmen.But the others have had lot of success too while having to play better teams in tougher conditions.

Sri Lanka being a poor test team doesn't tour away much and plays a lot of matches against Bangladesh and Zimbabwae.Sanga despite being the legend that he is, would not get his runs so easy if he faced world class bowlers more often.

Amla IMO has been the best batsmen in the last 10 years regardless of his beard,trousers,spectacles,shiny head,Islam,Gujarat,Savannah,Tanzania etc etc

I am not forcing it upon you and would be glad if you mention someone you think deserves being called the best because each one of them has a valid claim.
 
As usual, :amla bhai inviting some trolling along with the general analysis. Close between the top 3, imo.
 
Well , Abd and Amla don't have the luxury of bashing Bangladesh every year neither do they play 90% of their matches on national highways.

The myth of Sangakkara being a minnow basher has been disproved many times. He's a masterclass Test batsman and definitely an all-time great. Make peace with it.
 
Glad you mentioned Cook.The only player among these who can claim test series victories in India and Australia.And he was one of the major reasons why Eng dominated during that period.

Although he has had the lowest of lows but give me a series win in Australia with the condition of getting whitewashed in future tours and I'll take it anyday.

He's a great Test batsman indeed and has a lot left in the tank still.
 
Its AB and its not even close.

Sure likes of Amla, Sanga have stats to back 'em up but they are not even close when it comes to AB's versatility. The guy can save/win you game from any situation. And that to me is what makes a batsman special. Not berating Amla or Sanga, they're good or even great but AB is class above 'em.
 
If you're talking 2000 onwards for players who are still not retired, then it has to be Sangakarra.

If it is 2005 onwards for players who are still not retired, then it is still Sangakarra.

2010 onwards has to be de Villiers.
 
Seriously what more must Amla achieve to be considered in the top 3? He's scored on every track, every opposition, has won games for his side, has saved games. He's been bloody brilliant.

Just unnecessary hate from some people here who dislike beards.
 
Amla averages some 37 since the beginning of 2015. He was arguably the best from 2010-2015, that's it. Amla and Cook are not ATG
 
Tests exclusively, Smith and overall Kohli by a fair margin.
 
I'd take Clarke/AB/Smith/Sanga and maybe G. Smith ahead of him . Amla and Cook are about the same for me.
 
One of the best for sure, along with Sangakkara. He totally bossed the first half of the decade and was the undisputed best in the world. Since then, age has caught up with him but he's still shown glimses of his class against the big teams. Great player.
 
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