Is India playing the brand of cricket that Pakistan fans want from their team

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Is Indian cricket team playing the brand of cricket that Pakistan fans want and yearn their team to play.
They were aggressive today and looking to win till Pant, and then rear guard with classic defence after that.
Also, players are very expressive and aggressive, and don't take sledges from opposition players lightly.
I remember Wasim and Shoaib used to give it back when sledged.
This Indian team has those attributes.
Play with aggression and expression and flair.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan has been losing consistently for a very very long time. India by and large has been on a roller coaster. The rankings reflect this.

We just don't have the leaders right now to make a difference

 

[Junaids]

Very much so.

I look at Pakistan, and I’d want my Test team outside Asia to contain:

1. Sami Aslam - still
2. Mohammad Rizwan
3. Kamran Ghulam
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf or Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi


To be honest, Sami Aslam, Rohail Nazir and Shadab Khan are mainly in the team for their attitude as much as their skills.

I see no point in picking veterans from it’s a long history of failure.

 

[Energy]

India has been ahead of Pakistan for two decades now. Whether that's aggression, attack, defensive approach, or tactical/mental.

We have been ahead of India on all the wrong fronts. Fixing, tampering, chucking, timidness, false aggression.

The bottom line is India is playing a serious brand of cricket, and the players are being fed all the right attributes from the top management. We are non-serious and have always been, and constantly relying on gut feel, natural flair which is useless in the modern-day. Whether it's the players, the coaches at the domestic level, the selectors - all in the same boat.

If anyone thinks Pakistan has a 'brand' of cricket, they are delusional and need to smell the coffee. And the reason why we don't have a brand is not just because of lack of talent, but also because of a lack of a serious cricket system.

 

[JaDed]

Don't get too cocky we haven't won the series or the match..

 

[saeedhk]

Yes. However, there is no talent in Pakistan. We would never find the kind of batsmen India has produced and continues to do so. We have been a minnow-level team for a long time; just slightly above Bangladesh.

 

[Shafi]

Unfortunately we don't have talent/facilities in terms of coaching or cricketing matters to match any top 4 teams.

 

[Savak]

Tbh Pakistan style of Cricket and play seriously changed for the worse because of our UAE exile, Misbah's defensiveness and the decline in standards, quality in domestic cricket

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Don't get too cocky we haven't won the series or the match..

Not cocky. Just an observation we are not a perfect team by any means. The balance has never been there earlier batting was good but bowling was average. Now reverse.
But this team, time and again has shown lot of heart, badmashi and Janoon which of often see ex Pakistan players talk about a lot.
Pakistan can still get players to achieve something similar for them. Just need to be more patient.

 

[Bhaijaan]

No need for this.

Pakistan play their own unique brand of cricket and although they're nowhere near their best in last decade or so but still they have many achievements including ICC silverware.

 

[Dingolfy]

To me, India showed how Desi players should play in Australia. I always cheered for Pakistan and Bangladesh whenever they play against these arrogant goras.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Is Indian cricket team playing the brand of cricket that Pakistan fans want and yearn their team to play.
They were aggressive today and looking to win till Pant, and then rear guard with classic defence after that.
Also, players are very expressive and aggressive, and don't take sledges from opposition players lightly.
I remember Wasim and Shoaib used to give it back when sledged.
This Indian team has those attributes.
Play with aggression and expression and flair.

You can sledge all you want but you need to be able to back it up, which Pakistan cannot do.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Forget other teams' fans , it's the brand of cricket I want to see from our side consistently. Just shows that even with a depleted side, what a change in leadership can do. Kohli's toxic leadership had actually left us underperforming. Now we are kicking well above our weight.

 

[Itachi]

Pakistan, with it's limited resources doing well. India has much better facility with more money to invest hence it's expected it will turn into results more.

But Pakistan will be back once some senior players are removed from the system.

 

[sharmaji]

I don't think Pakistan is known for its resilience. I don't remember any match saving efforts by Pakistan. What Pakistan is known for is its bowlers destroying opposition batting lineups. That aggression/confidence is definitely missing in the current Pakistan team. India is good, but its mostly resilient bunch, not an aggressive powerhouse like Pakistan was.

 

[MenInG]

You can sledge all you want but you need to be able to back it up, which Pakistan cannot do.

Totally agree. You can only sledge when you have the confidence to back it up

 

[dildilpak]

Pakistan first needs to decide whether it wants to invest in Test cricket or not - for the longest time now they have priortized T20 above tests, with the result that the level of batting/bowling skills has both gone down across formats.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

With PSL and cricket back to Pakistan, I am expecting they will bounce back. It will take some time to climb from bottom of the table -> top.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Yes. However, there is no talent in Pakistan. We would never find the kind of batsmen India has produced and continues to do so. We have been a minnow-level team for a long time; just slightly above Bangladesh.

The talent is there. What is missing is whether or not we improve and develop the domestic talent we find. The grassroots and domestic systems are just providing "experience" to the domestic talents we see around, but there is hardly any effort to improve those talents. Domestic coaches don't care about nurturing and developing players, and that reflects in the domestic system where youngsters put up performances, get selected, fail in matches, and are sent back into domestic.

I hate it when people say that there's no more talent in Pakistan, there is heaps of it. What you do with that talent is the fault. Do you take care of the talent, provide facilities for it to grow and develop in hopes of serving the country? Or do you expect the talent to improve by itself? We are in the stone-age where we think that we'll just stumble across another Wasim Akram, that's not the case. Nowadays, you need to develop players to even match those standards that we set.

 

[stevewittry]

Not a big deal. Playing such cricket on a lifeless wicket where the likes of Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Green are made to look like Steve Waugh and Gleg Blewett, is nothing to boast about. The true test awaits somewhere at the WACA (where there is no test match) of the GABBA.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Pakistan first needs to decide whether it wants to invest in Test cricket or not - for the longest time now they have priortized T20 above tests, with the result that the level of batting/bowling skills has both gone down across formats.

I agree. We focused a lot on T20 cricket, and we are a strong team in that format. In general, we focused more on white-ball cricket, because we were a poor white-ball team at the beginning of the decade. We were still a really good test team up till I'd say 2017, where our decline started. At that point, we were supposed to invest in players and become a force to be reckoned with across all formats, but our focus shifted towards white-ball cricket because of the greed of money, and the fact that we had just won the CT17, giving the board a very probable reason to focus on white-ball cricket.

As a result, no players were being developed in test matches, and teams had already found the faults in our players. As a result, when our players were unable to compete with good intensity, followed by the retirements of Misbah and Younis, leaving two voids in the team which have not been filled till now, the result was a team which was on the verge of collapsing in the test rankings, exactly what happened. With no players introduced and groomed, we rushed to bring in all these random players to fix the test team, and ended up becoming worse because all the pressure went to the openers, Azhar, Asad, and on the fast bowlers.

We were failing as a test team yet doing very well as a white-ball team, and that's where the big divide happened in our cricket. We're a good white-ball team, we can certainly compete with big teams and even win against them. However, the same cannot be said for test matches, where we'll almost lose instantly to big teams. Now, the fact of the matter is that you need good players across all formats to become a good team. That's where we need to put our attention.