Is Islam the only true religion?

[troodon]

Seems you are confused. Allah is simply an Arabic word for god. Same way Khuda is the Persian word for God. They mean the same thing.

I am not confused.

Listen.Eshwar in Sanskrit means God. Does it mean wen Hindus say Eshwar, they are talking about Allah or Yahweh? If someone claims that then they are a cuckoo.

 

[Technics 1210]

I am not confused.

Listen.Eshwar in Sanskrit means God. Does it mean wen Hindus say Eshwar, they are talking about Allah or Yahweh? If someone claims that then they are a cuckoo.

You are confused.

No one did claim such a thing, you just cannot fathom the fact that multiple words in different languages in Abrahamic faiths means the same God. Please go and read the main books to get a better understanding of what Abrahamic faith entails - the same God is worshiped under Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

 

[troodon]

You are confused.

No one did claim such a thing, you just cannot fathom the fact that multiple words in different languages in Abrahamic faiths means the same God. Please go and read the main books to get a better understanding of what Abrahamic faith entails - the same God is worshiped under Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

Not the same God. Just because the words have same meaning does not mean all 3 Abrahamic religions worship the same God. Your claim is ridiculous.

Allah is the god of Arabs and his temple is the Kabah in Mecca. As i have said before, Torah, Bible never mentioned Kabah and Muslims believe it is the holiest shrine for all Abrahamic faiths.

 

[Technics 1210]

Not the same God. Just because the words have same meaning does not mean all 3 Abrahamic religions worship the same God. Your claim is ridiculous.

Allah is the god of Arabs and his temple is the Kabah in Mecca. As i have said before, Torah, Bible never mentioned Kabah and Muslims believe it is the holiest shrine for all Abrahamic faiths.

You have not read the Torah, Bible, and The Qur'an, therefore your argument is one of ignorance. Furthermore you have no idea of what Abrahamic faith is. Everyone who has read the books is telling you otherwise, but no, the Atheist studying religion is professing otherwise.

Oh I got some info for you, the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ismail. Look it up on your educational endeavors!

Happy trolling!

 

[troodon]

You have not read the Torah, Bible, and The Qur'an, therefore your argument is one of ignorance. Furthermore you have no idea of what Abrahamic faith is. Everyone who has read the books is telling you otherwise, but no, the Atheist studying religion is professing otherwise.

Oh I got some info for you, the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ismail. Look it up on your educational endeavors!

Happy trolling!

Another lie about Abraham building Kabah?

If Abraham built Kabah, why is Kaba not mentioned in Torah or Bible? Is it that unimportant? Why would Abraham travel all the way down to Saudi Arabia Desert and build a mosque in a terrible place to live?

All of your claims are only found in Quran or Hadith. Judaism or Christianity has no mention of Kabah ever. So before calling me a troll, please show evidence.

Tomorrow if I produce a holy book and claim the same, would you believe? Until MUhammed came nobody knew about Mecca or that Pagan Temple Kabah.

 

[Technics 1210]

Another lie about Abraham building Kabah?

Google it.

You're not a very good student, I give you this much. You have the tale tell signs of one who has not read an iota of religion but pretends to be a an atheist scholar when ridiculing other religions, but your choice is to ridicule Islam, for obvious reasons.

Once you realise the historical truth, it will shatter your ignorance.

The only lie is your intelligence.

 

[Green Patriot]

What a strange question this thread poses.

As a Muslim i would definitely say yes.
But non muslims would most definitely say no.
And that will be the end of that.

 

[troodon]

Google it.

You're not a very good student, I give you this much. You have the tale tell signs of one who has not read an iota of religion but pretends to be a an atheist scholar when ridiculing other religions, but your choice is to ridicule Islam, for obvious reasons.

Once you realise the historical truth, it will shatter your ignorance.

The only lie is your intelligence.

Show me a non-muslim source about Abraham building Kabah in Mecca? Why would Abraham put a stone and kiss it? He would never do that.

 

[troodon]

Calling me ignorant while making claims with no proof. Carry on!

 

[Technics 1210]

Show me a non-muslim source about Abraham building Kabah in Mecca? Why would Abraham put a stone and kiss it? He would never do that.

Non-Muslim source? GOOGLE IT! Don't run now. Built the kabba and kissed a stone? Still searching Google huh?

Bless, all this time you thought Mohammed PBUH built the Kabba. LOL!

You are so blinded by hate you do not even understand what Abrahamic faith is, it is, Monotheism. Mono- being ONE. Belief in ONE god - the SAME God. So much so Abraham's sons lead to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Ishmael and Jacob! You can Google this too!

 

[Technics 1210]

Calling me ignorant while making claims with no proof. Carry on!

Ladies and gentlemen, the words of a user who is lost for words because the penny has finally dropped.

 

[Technics 1210]

I am so pleased that the seed of doubt is now in [MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION] mind. He learned something new today, still researching, and it is evident by his reaction. My job is done.

Now let’s move on and see how much sand these trolls really have!

Why did you leave Hinduism [MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION]? Why did you believe Hinduism is not the true religion? This is relevant to the thread given if Islam is the true religion, then it must be so through comparisons with other religions. Discovering as you are an ex-Hindu, I, and readers, are interested in why you abandoned Hinduism.

Please, do not be shy – let it out.

 

[troodon]

Non-Muslim source? GOOGLE IT! Don't run now. Built the kabba and kissed a stone? Still searching Google huh?

Bless, all this time you thought Mohammed PBUH built the Kabba. LOL!

You are so blinded by hate you do not even understand what Abrahamic faith is, it is, Monotheism. Mono- being ONE. Belief in ONE god - the SAME God. So much so Abraham's sons lead to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Ishmael and Jacob! You can Google this too!

Never said Muhammad built kaba

Don’t run. Show me the evidence that Allah and Yahweh are same.

Any xyz can claim that they are Abrahamic. Show me the proof from Torah or Bible about Allah and Kaaba.

Waiting for your response.

 

[troodon]

I am so pleased that the seed of doubt is now in [MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION] mind. He learned something new today, still researching, and it is evident by his reaction. My job is done.

Now let’s move on and see how much sand these trolls really have!

Why did you leave Hinduism [MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION]? Why did you believe Hinduism is not the true religion? This is relevant to the thread given if Islam is the true religion, then it must be so through comparisons with other religions. Discovering as you are an ex-Hindu, I, and readers, are interested in why you abandoned Hinduism.

Please, do not be shy – let it out.

To learn something new, somebody has to show me evidence. So far believers have shown me zero evidence. All tall claims and nothing to show as evidence. I was at doctors office during my lunch break and could not respond..

Again I am asking. Any proof that Abraham built a pagan temple and placed a black stone and kissed it? Also show me evidence of Yahweh and Allah as same.

Muhammad’s fathers name is Abd-allah. Which means slave of Allah and he is a pagan. Don’t tell me that Muhammad’s dad is a monotheistic fellow.

 

[Technics 1210]

I don't have time to waste to prove anything, believe what you want to belive, but you are just plain wrong.

You won't even say why you abandoned Hinduism.

You've been fun.

God bless!

 

[troodon]

I don't have time to waste to prove anything, believe what you want to belive, but you are just plain wrong.

You won't even say why you abandoned Hinduism.

You've been fun.

God bless!

Translation, I have no clue and I can’t give any evidence. It’s ok. It’s your blind faith that Abraham built kaba, stone came from heavens.... bottom line is, all these things were part of pagan Arabs. Allah is a pagan arab god. Just because Muhammad claimed otherwise does not make Allah the god of Jews and Christians.

Regarding me leaving Hinduism, here it is. Nothing in religions convinced me that there is a supernatural creator. Asking for evidence is like trying to extract oil from dry sand. You get the same old cliched responses.

I criticize al religions. Hinduism has so many meaningless rituals. Whatever the idea it was started has died longtime ago. Now it’s all just superstition.

 

[gazza619]

Translation, I have no clue and I can’t give any evidence. It’s ok. It’s your blind faith that Abraham built kaba, stone came from heavens.... bottom line is, all these things were part of pagan Arabs. Allah is a pagan arab god. Just because Muhammad claimed otherwise does not make Allah the god of Jews and Christians.

Regarding me leaving Hinduism, here it is. Nothing in religions convinced me that there is a supernatural creator. Asking for evidence is like trying to extract oil from dry sand. You get the same old cliched responses.

I criticize al religions. Hinduism has so many meaningless rituals. Whatever the idea it was started has died longtime ago. Now it’s all just superstition.

Putting religions and rituals to one side, I am curious to know what made you convinced that God doesn't exist?

 

[troodon]

Putting religions and rituals to one side, I am curious to know what made you convinced that God doesn't exist?

Universe does not need God to exist. We are such a tiny spec in this entire universe that it will be foolish for us to think that some super natural power really cares about us on that tiny spec and what we do and keeps track of our daily lives. Total delusion.

Humans are nothing special. We are just another animal on this planet. If we are out in the jungle, we are just a piece of meat for a passing by carnivore. Religion curtails our thinking ability. Your freedom to question and explore stops when it goes against the teachings of God and his manual.

Nobody has seen God. None has spoken to him. Even if someone claims to have seen or spoken to God, they provide no evidence. As soon as you question, they go into "You are ignorant and I am wise" mode. They say everything except providing the evidence. Any claims without evidence should be trashed in the nearest garbage bin.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What a strange question this thread poses.

As a Muslim i would definitely say yes.
But non muslims would most definitely say no.
And that will be the end of that.

It would be the end of it if non Muslims could let it go, but some like our ex Muslim and ex Hindu friends don't want to just say no, they need to prove to Muslims it is a false religion as well. It is clearly a topic dear to their heart, may Baghwan give them strength to persevere.

 

[troodon]

It would be the end of it if non Muslims could let it go, but some like our ex Muslim and ex Hindu friends don't want to just say no, they need to prove to Muslims it is a false religion as well. It is clearly a topic dear to their heart, may Baghwan give them strength to persevere.

Its not as simple as Let it go. World history has been shaped by the lies of these made up cults. Millions died and still dying due to this madness. Everyday we see the miracles of religion sending people to heaven/hell whether those people are willing to go or not.

 

[Green Patriot]

It would be the end of it if non Muslims could let it go, but some like our ex Muslim and ex Hindu friends don't want to just say no, they need to prove to Muslims it is a false religion as well. It is clearly a topic dear to their heart, may Baghwan give them strength to persevere.

Let them be.
People should learn to respect each others faith.
If they refuse to,there is no need to engage with every naive troll on the Internet especially on sensitive matters like religion.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I am not confused.

Listen.Eshwar in Sanskrit means God. Does it mean wen Hindus say Eshwar, they are talking about Allah or Yahweh? If someone claims that then they are a cuckoo.

People of different religions can use the same word for God. For example if you took a test and you and say 'Please god give me a good grade' in English, whether one is Hindu, Muslim, Christian, etc they can all use the English word for God, but they are appealing to the higher power in their religion.

This reminds me of what happened in Pakistan. Before the 80's everyone use to say Khuda Hafiz as a parting phrase, which basically meant May God protect you. Some clowns decided that Khuda wasnt good enough, and that encouraged people to adopt Allah Hafiz, which meant the same thing, but they decided that God was not clever enough to differentiate. Within a few years from 100% people saying Khuda Hafiz, it dropped to like 20%, and the rest started saying Allah Hafiz. Luckily the trend is reversing, and its like 50/50 now, but they used the same logic that you are using.

As far as Eshwar obviously if a Hindu says then they are referring to the higher power in their religion. But if a Hindu says Khuda or God, then they are saying the same thing, there is no difference.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

It would be the end of it if non Muslims could let it go, but some like our ex Muslim and ex Hindu friends don't want to just say no, they need to prove to Muslims it is a false religion as well. It is clearly a topic dear to their heart, may Baghwan give them strength to persevere.

Exactly. They act like they are the first people in human history to question the existence of a higher power, and that they need to tell everyone about it asap.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Its not as simple as Let it go. World history has been shaped by the lies of these made up cults. Millions died and still dying due to this madness. Everyday we see the miracles of religion sending people to heaven/hell whether those people are willing to go or not.

Humans have been killing each other since the beginning of time. Look at the 20th century, Tens of Millions died in World Wars due to nationalism, Stalin and Mao killed millions, etc, none of this was due to religion. the world today is safer than any other era. We have a 24/7 media so bad news is always shown but if we check the numbers the world is relatively in a good place today. We are more educated, more prosperous , more free than ever before.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its not as simple as Let it go. World history has been shaped by the lies of these made up cults. Millions died and still dying due to this madness. Everyday we see the miracles of religion sending people to heaven/hell whether those people are willing to go or not.

I feel the same my friend. Many have accused me of being anti-Indian or picking on Hindus, but I think they don't understand we have to fight these smaller battles to win the war. BJP is the mask which barely hides the rotten culture of RSS and Bajrang Dal. Yesterday Modi was reviled as a communal firebrand, today he is feted as a 56" rockstar. This is how the world gave birth to Mussolini and Hitler. Fight the good fight brother, while you deliver the right hand slap, I am here to step in with the follow up backhander!

 

[Technics 1210]

Indeed.

More people died in WW1 and WW2 because of politics, rather than religion.

Yet I find it intriguing that one who has concluded religion is all evil, continues to study religion as an Atheist. It's as if, one is seeking the truth!

 

[Adijazz1706]

Exactly. They act like they are the first people in human history to question the existence of a higher power, and that they need to tell everyone about it asap.

It's not like atheist societies started with Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, the Huns and Mongols did not believe in God either. There are some common trends in these examples which are interesting to study, but that'd put doubt into the minds of atheists about the whole 'religion is the root of evil' shtick

 

[light]

Asking this on a predominantly muslim users forum will get you a YES more often than not. As a non believer, discussion about which religion is true/better/etc is as pointless as asking who is stronger between Goku Vs Superman. Each to his own. If someone is happy with their beliefs and their god and they do no harm to others, no need to try to prove to another person that your religion is the one and only true religion.