Is it time for Mohammad Haris to depart from Peshawar Zalmi?

[Rana]

Something isn’t right for this lad. His career just isn’t moving forward, and I feel this connection with Zalmi is stalling his progress. Although I can see Javed Afridi doing his best for him and giving him a lot of respect and responsibility, yet I still feel he has to move from Peshawar. Especially considering Wahab Riaz’s reluctance to pick Harris even though it is blatantly obvious that this kid makes your side just because of his batting ability, fast hands and innovative strokeplay to match modern standards.

From a cricketing pov, he hasn’t been allowed to express himself recently with Babar Azam using his power as captain by holding on to one of the two opening slots for the franchise, whereas realistically Babar should be the one batting at 3 and Harris should be opening the innings with Saim. The kid already has to make shift into a more difficult batting position, and his career really isn’t making any progress because of this.

I think Harris needs to be traded to Karachi Kings and as the captain of the franchise. He is a good, intelligent cricketer. A thinking batsman that is always looking to enhance his batting strokes/shot Arsenal with modern requirements against pace and spin. One of the few, rare batting talents who can play the modern game against all kinds of bowlers. He will not progress as long as Peshawar Zalmi have Babar as captain, and guys like Haseebullah are going to be given preferential treatment for no apparent reason.

Another point of note is that Harris was instrumental in helping Zalmi pick a reasonably good squad this season as he was there at the draft to ensure some of the best domestic performers were picked. Babar’s only contribution pre season was the insistence of picking Asif Ali. Can’t think of anything else.

Thoughts?

 

[RidiculousMan]

Something isn’t right for this lad. His career just isn’t moving forward, and I feel this connection with Zalmi is stalling his progress. Although I can see Javed Afridi doing his best for him and giving him a lot of respect and responsibility, yet I still feel he has to move from Peshawar. Especially considering Wahab Riaz’s reluctance to pick Harris even though it is blatantly obvious that this kid makes your side just because of his batting ability, fast hands and innovative strokeplay to match modern standards.

From a cricketing pov, he hasn’t been allowed to express himself recently with Babar Azam using his power as captain by holding on to one of the two opening slots for the franchise, whereas realistically Babar should be the one batting at 3 and Harris should be opening the innings with Saim. The kid already has to make shift into a more difficult batting position, and his career really isn’t making any progress because of this.

I think Harris needs to be traded to Karachi Kings and as the captain of the franchise. He is a good, intelligent cricketer. A thinking batsman that is always looking to enhance his batting strokes/shot Arsenal with modern requirements against pace and spin. One of the few, rare batting talents who can play the modern game against all kinds of bowlers. He will not progress as long as Peshawar Zalmi have Babar as captain, and guys like Haseebullah are going to be given preferential treatment for no apparent reason.

Another point of note is that Harris was instrumental in helping Zalmi pick a reasonably good squad this season as he was there at the draft to ensure some of the best domestic performers were picked. Babar’s only contribution pre season was the insistence of picking Asif Ali. Can’t think of anything else.

Thoughts?

After the New Zealand away series. I was expecting and so looking forward to Harris and Saim open in PSL. As the new captain Shaheen had finally convinced Babar to bat no. 3.

It had then made sense for Babar to bat at no. 3 as we would've gotten a great no. 3 in T20Is in shape of Babar and ideally Saim and Harris opening for the same team would've meant that the top 3 would've gotten a lot of practice in appropriate positions and a potential chance for all three to bat in the same position for Pakistan.

But alas.

Mohammad Harris should be opening or coming in as a finisher. He's better against pace and plays high risk Cricket.

I'm also worried a little about Haseebullah. He is another talent that needs grooming. I'm hoping one of them goes to Quetta Gladiators as a WK successor to Sarfraz Ahmed. A couple seasons as the main WK batters and openers for Quetta would do either of them great benefit.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I think Haris has rubbed someone the wrong way in the higher management, and his performances are too mediocre of late to justify any sort of recall.

Only has himself to blame for not performing. Averaged 15 in 10 innings, with a strike-rate of 132 this PSL. Those are terrible figures no matter how much you like Haris.

 

[mominsaigol]

Something isn’t right for this lad. His career just isn’t moving forward, and I feel this connection with Zalmi is stalling his progress. Although I can see Javed Afridi doing his best for him and giving him a lot of respect and responsibility, yet I still feel he has to move from Peshawar. Especially considering Wahab Riaz’s reluctance to pick Harris even though it is blatantly obvious that this kid makes your side just because of his batting ability, fast hands and innovative strokeplay to match modern standards.

From a cricketing pov, he hasn’t been allowed to express himself recently with Babar Azam using his power as captain by holding on to one of the two opening slots for the franchise, whereas realistically Babar should be the one batting at 3 and Harris should be opening the innings with Saim. The kid already has to make shift into a more difficult batting position, and his career really isn’t making any progress because of this.

I think Harris needs to be traded to Karachi Kings and as the captain of the franchise. He is a good, intelligent cricketer. A thinking batsman that is always looking to enhance his batting strokes/shot Arsenal with modern requirements against pace and spin. One of the few, rare batting talents who can play the modern game against all kinds of bowlers. He will not progress as long as Peshawar Zalmi have Babar as captain, and guys like Haseebullah are going to be given preferential treatment for no apparent reason.

Another point of note is that Harris was instrumental in helping Zalmi pick a reasonably good squad this season as he was there at the draft to ensure some of the best domestic performers were picked. Babar’s only contribution pre season was the insistence of picking Asif Ali. Can’t think of anything else.

Thoughts?

I advocated haris to be our captain long ago, everyone at that time was making fun of me on PP and not taking me too seriously cause I had like 1K comments.

The didn't think the emerging acc cup was a good show, however in that cup alone Haris

A) Squad rotated, and when I mean squad rotated I mean actually squad rotated from trying our all possible combinations, different numbers heck in one game he opened, on another batted at no 7, in fact in the final he came up with the best combo for everyone with saim and farhan opening, Omair at no 3, he brought himself at no 4 and tayyab at 5 and various other excellent decisions.

Something babar is incapable of.

B) His field decisions were excellent also his reviews were spot on.

C) Lastly as a captain you could tell how positive the energy was, he gave me 2017 sarfi vibes where he'd approach bowlers, give them feedback, and unlike bobby he doesn't shout during pressure situations.

Truth his, he deserves someone better then Bobby. When has Babar succeed in anything?

Mr best captain of the PSL can't even polish the next generation properly and thinks opening uss kei bap ki khandan ki hai. Moron shouts screams and decided it was a good idea to bowl saim.

I knew full well bowling saim would backfire, dude isn't a bowler, all he does is skid his fingers and bowl straight, Theirs a reason siefert and guptill butchered this kid on bowling

 

[Rana]

I advocated haris to be our captain long ago, everyone at that time was making fun of me on PP and not taking me too seriously cause I had like 1K comments.

The didn't think the emerging acc cup was a good show, however in that cup alone Haris

A) Squad rotated, and when I mean squad rotated I mean actually squad rotated from trying our all possible combinations, different numbers heck in one game he opened, on another batted at no 7, in fact in the final he came up with the best combo for everyone with saim and farhan opening, Omair at no 3, he brought himself at no 4 and tayyab at 5 and various other excellent decisions.

Something babar is incapable of.

B) His field decisions were excellent also his reviews were spot on.

C) Lastly as a captain you could tell how positive the energy was, he gave me 2017 sarfi vibes where he'd approach bowlers, give them feedback, and unlike bobby he doesn't shout during pressure situations.

Truth his, he deserves someone better then Bobby. When has Babar succeed in anything?

Mr best captain of the PSL can't even polish the next generation properly and thinks opening uss kei bap ki khandan ki hai. Moron shouts screams and decided it was a good idea to bowl saim.

I knew full well bowling saim would backfire, dude isn't a bowler, all he does is skid his fingers and bowl straight, Theirs a reason siefert and guptill butchered this kid on bowling

He’s 100% a captain. In a land where you have Babar captain, Harris is 3000% a captain

 

[mominsaigol]

He’s 100% a captain. In a land where you have Babar captain, Harris is 3000% a captain

I advocated him as captain over sharab, Rozwan and babar, yet I remember people telling me rizwan is the best captain due to some domestic type teaching nonsense that he did.

I didn't know their was a university where degrees are handed based of captaincy.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There seems to be personal issue against him. Not sure changing the franchise will help. It seems like he has rubbed someone up the wrong way.

 

[Rana]

I advocated him as captain over sharab, Rozwan and babar, yet I remember people telling me rizwan is the best captain due to some domestic type teaching nonsense that he did.

I didn't know their was a university where degrees are handed based of captaincy.

All selfish, self serving captains

I want Rizwan to captain in International so that the fans can see how he will take Pakistan into the stone ages with tactics that suit him and his mates from KPK.

 

[FearlessRoar]

It's too early to discuss. Mohammad Haris needs to focus on his red ball cricket in domestic and List A cricket immediately. However, there were some reports that no department selected him for the ongoing President's Cup.

 

[mominsaigol]

All selfish, self serving captains

I want Rizwan to captain in International so that the fans can see how he will take Pakistan into the stone ages with tactics that suit him and his mates from KPK.

He will hug the opposition 24/7.

Also I doubt rizzu will captain because he won't take it. He knows he'll be under scrutinity if it happens.

 

[Rana]

It's too early to discuss. Mohammad Haris needs to focus on his red ball cricket in domestic and List A cricket immediately. However, there were some reports that no department selected him for the ongoing President's Cup.

Never too early when it’s about money. PSL is where careers are made or destroyed. Not your domestic or red ball cricket mate.

Harris needs to make the right moves.

 

[mominsaigol]

After the New Zealand away series. I was expecting and so looking forward to Harris and Saim open in PSL. As the new captain Shaheen had finally convinced Babar to bat no. 3.

It had then made sense for Babar to bat at no. 3 as we would've gotten a great no. 3 in T20Is in shape of Babar and ideally Saim and Harris opening for the same team would've meant that the top 3 would've gotten a lot of practice in appropriate positions and a potential chance for all three to bat in the same position for Pakistan.

But alas.

Mohammad Harris should be opening or coming in as a finisher. He's better against pace and plays high risk Cricket.

I'm also worried a little about Haseebullah. He is another talent that needs grooming. I'm hoping one of them goes to Quetta Gladiators as a WK successor to Sarfraz Ahmed. A couple seasons as the main WK batters and openers for Quetta would do either of them great benefit.

Hasebullah is terrible.

But as for your other point, Babar is stubborn, he's ironically better at no 3 in t20 then opening. He showcased that in January against a top string NZ.

 

[PakEngFan]

He needs to play FC cricket all this crying for him to open. For a start he's batting at 3 and if people followed his career he's always been a middle order batsmen from his u19 days.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

He needs to play FC cricket all this crying for him to open. For a start he's batting at 3 and if people followed his career he's always been a middle order batsmen from his u19 days.

Why does a white ball format player need to play FC?

He should’ve been picked for the President Cup but Wahab was afraid he’ll stand out from the rest and potentially force his way back into the national team, Wahab Riaz hasn’t been normal since his hair transplant.

 

[Rana]

Why does a LOI player need to play FC?

He should’ve been picked for the President Cup but Wahab was afraid he’ll stand out from the rest and potentially force his way back into the national team, Wahab Riaz hasn’t been normal since his hair transplant.

He doesn’t need to play FC. Which FC giant is a white ball juggernaut? Azhar Ali should have been our Jason Roy if that’s the case

 

[PakEngFan]

Why does a white ball format player need to play FC?

He should’ve been picked for the President Cup but Wahab was afraid he’ll stand out from the rest and potentially force his way back into the national team, Wahab Riaz hasn’t been normal since his hair transplant.

To develop his game. These t20s will ensure he never reaches his full potential.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Why does a white ball format player need to play FC?

He should’ve been picked for the President Cup but Wahab was afraid he’ll stand out from the rest and potentially force his way back into the national team, Wahab Riaz hasn’t been normal since his hair transplant.

Yes because Haris' average of 15 at a SR of 132 in PSL was such an earth shattering performance.

Stop blaming others, this is Haris' own fault. His game has actually regressed from his debut year.

 

[PakEngFan]

He doesn’t need to play FC. Which FC giant is a white ball juggernaut? Azhar Ali should have been our Jason Roy if that’s the case

Jason Roy played 87 FC games. Not a couple like Mohammed haris.

 

[Rana]

Yes because Haris' average of 15 at a SR of 132 in PSL was such an earth shattering performance.

Stop blaming others, this is Haris' own fault. His game has actually regressed from his debut year.

Regressed in what sense? How has Babar or Rizwan’s game improved playing unconditionally for country and franchise? They play every damn game at the position of their choice. How have they improved??!

 

[Usman Chadda]

Regressed in what sense? How has Babar or Rizwan’s game improved playing unconditionally for country and franchise? They play every damn game at the position of their choice. How have they improved??!

Haris' SR in PSL was only 9 points above Muhammad Rizwan, whilst averaging less than half of what Rizwan did. Both played at least 10 innings in the tournament.

Saim and Babar were just in another league, so a comparison wouldn't even be fair.

 

[Rana]

Haris' SR in PSL was only 9 points above Muhammad Rizwan, whilst averaging less than half of what Rizwan did. Both played at least 10 innings in the tournament.

Saim and Babar were just in another league, so a comparison wouldn't even be fair.

Who’s a better T20 batsman, Harris or Rizwan? I know your answer, and that’s why I know you don’t understand cricket.

 

[Rana]

Jason Roy played 87 FC games. Not a couple like Mohammed haris.

How many has Fraser McGurk played? Are Rizwan and Babar better T20 players than him?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Who’s a better T20 batsman, Harris or Rizwan? I know your answer, and that’s why I know you don’t understand cricket.

Haris has to score runs for him to be considered in the same ball park as Rizwan first.

That last part is rich coming from someone who proposed Asif Ali as national team captain.

 

[Rana]

Haris has to score runs for him to be considered in the same ball park as Rizwan first.

That last part is rich coming from someone who proposed Asif Ali as national team captain.

Score what kind of runs? What rewards are their for scoring runs? Sahibzada and Saud scored runs…where are they??!

Fakhar scored runs as an opener for 2 seasons prior to this year’s PSL….why does he bat at 4 and Haseebullah gets the chance to open?!!!

Stop playing these silly games with me.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Score what kind of runs? What rewards are their for scoring runs? Sahibzada and Saud scored runs…where are they??!

Fakhar scored runs as an opener for 2 seasons prior to this year’s PSL….why does he bat at 4 and Haseebullah gets the chance to open?!!!

Stop playing these silly games with me.

We'll keep going in circles, until some of you accept all these random names just do not have the ability to play modern day T20 cricket.

Your hero Haris opened instead of Babar and Rizwan in the Afghanistan T20 series last year, he averaged 7.3 at a SR of 95 in all 3 innings. Who are you actually angry with? Rizwan? Babar? Or the numpties you people back yet continue to disappoint?

Fakhar scored runs as an opener 2 years ago, so he should be opening now after a horrific season as an opener in PSL?

You are playing games with yourself here, I'm just trying to make sense of any sort of logic from someone who once wanted Asif Ali as our captain.

 

[Rana]

until some of you accept all these random names just do not have the ability to play modern day T20 cric

What random names? Mohammed Harris doesn’t have the ability to play modern T20 cricket? Who does? Yasir Khan??

 

[MenInG]

Who’s a better T20 batsman, Harris or Rizwan? I know your answer, and that’s why I know you don’t understand cricket.

Somehow I knew when this thread was made it will evolve into a riz babar and possibly a Misbah debate!

 

[Rana]

Somehow I knew when this thread was made it will evolve into a riz babar and possibly a Misbah debate!

Because I feel every problem in Pakistan’s cricket stems from them. How am I supposed to help this?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Haris is literally galaxies ahead of Niazi, Haseebullah and the other hacks in our circuit. To play these guys ahead of Haris is an absolute joke.

Haris is Pakistan’s second best young batter right now. First is of course Saim.

 

[Usman Chadda]

@ExpressPacer

Look at this guy man. I’ve been warring with these types of people since 2020 here! Do you blame me for absolutely HATING everything about Pakistan cricket now? It’s these types of minds that are in charge of our cricket!

It’s the reality.

We have all been in the exact same spot where you are at the moment.

 

[Major]

When Harris pulled on that ribbon out of his pants when he performed the first time in PSL, i called it at that time this guy could be a future trouble maker and will not have a long career. And today that is exactly what is happening.

Here in PCB, people dont accept different personalities. Now Harris has done or said something that someone has kept it as a personal grudge.

 

[PakEngFan]

Haris is literally galaxies ahead of Niazi, Haseebullah and the other hacks in our circuit. To play these guys ahead of Haris is an absolute joke.

Haris is Pakistan’s second best young batter right now. First is of course Saim.

The best young batter is Abdullah shafique not the ones you mentioned.

 

[MenInG]

Because I feel every problem in Pakistan’s cricket stems from them. How am I supposed to help this?

Then please stop messing up each thread with the same subject.

 

[Savak]

Haris selection in the T20 format was justified as the format encourages going guns blazing from ball one approach. The problem is he is very one dimensional and in ODI cricket if he does not open the innings, he is clueless when it comes to constructing an innings and batting any where else.

He needs to participate in domestic cricket and 4 day cricket to improve his game.

 

[mominsaigol]

The best young batter is Abdullah shafique not the ones you mentioned.

Abdullah shafiq has excellent technique and timing but he needs to decide rn if he's

A) Going to use his talent to become a generational superstar for Pakistan as he clearly has the shots to be an aggressive nightmare of an opener.

B) Going to become a right handed Imam ul Haq

 

[Rana]

Haris selection in the T20 format was justified as the format encourages going guns blazing from ball one approach. The problem is he is very one dimensional and in ODI cricket if he does not open the innings, he is clueless when it comes to constructing an innings and batting any where else.

He needs to participate in domestic cricket and 4 day cricket to improve his game.

Right

This is about Harris’s 3 format career? Is that’s what’s in discussion here?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Haris has not achieved that status yet that other franchises will keep getting crazy to hire him, there is nothing significant he has achieved in cricket so better for him to stick where he is right now.

 

[Rana]

Haris has not achieved that status yet that other franchises will keep getting crazy to hire him, there is nothing significant he has achieved in cricket so better for him to stick where he is right now.

Well, Karachi Kings went crazy to get the signature of Shan Masood

 

[cricketmania22]

Depending upon how this World Cup pans out for Saim and UK, and to some extent Babar and Rizwan, he might get a chance after the World Cup. Then it would be up to him to cement his spot. He isn’t bad but he isn’t special either.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I think Haris should stick to Peshawar for next season as well. At least he is getting a chance to play in the top order. It is not guaranteed that he will get the same opeertuninty in any other franchise.

 

[Hyder]

Fgs stop putting everyone's failure on batting position. If you are not good enough to bat at 3 you are not good enough to open too.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Something is cooking?

Mohammad Haris is not following Peshawar Zalmi on X. I am not sure if he was following them in the past or not. Cannot see the name of Peshwar Zalmi here.

 

[Ahmed216]

A poor batsman who with poor shot selection and no idea on how to construct an innings especially under pressure.
These 10-15 run players have got no future unless they improve drastically by some miracle I suppose

 

[RidiculousMan]

Haris is literally galaxies ahead of Niazi, Haseebullah and the other hacks in our circuit. To play these guys ahead of Haris is an absolute joke.

Haris is Pakistan’s second best young batter right now. First is of course Saim.

The dumb management and probably our captain also will never understand the current game. They will always lag behind.

Niazi is a stroke player of middle order that is not a hitter. But they are looking at him as one.

Haris is literally the high risk, high strike rate player they are looking for to play. But his strength is playing pace in powerplay or coming in the death overs to mess with the pacers with his cheecky shots.

They couldn't identify yet that Pakistan needed both Saim and Harris to open together. But that would meant that one of Babar of Rizwan had to pack their bags. Probably Rizwan because Babar is a better no. 3 and more technical than him.

Now apparently they've brought in Salman Ali Agha (the guy who played no. 3 in PSL and is a good vs spin) to be backup of Iftikhar (who plays the finishing role against pacers).

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Something is cooking?

Mohammad Haris is not following Peshawar Zalmi on X. I am not sure if he was following them in the past or not. Cannot see the name of Peshwar Zalmi here.

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Think he unfollowed Babar and Shaheen on Instagram as well.

 

[PakEngFan]

Think he unfollowed Babar and Shaheen on Instagram as well.

Seems immature like his batting too. What has Shaheen for to him. I understand Babar as he dropped him for Peshawar Zalmi.

 

[ExpressPacer]

The best young batter is Abdullah shafique not the ones you mentioned.

He’s an above average batsman for Pakistani standards in Tests but he’s not even the best young Test batter if we consider Saud Shakeel who is young-ish.

 

[PakEngFan]

He’s an above average batsman for Pakistani standards in Tests but he’s not even the best young Test batter if we consider Saud Shakeel who is young-ish.

He may not be better than suad shakeel currently but there won't be a comparison when both have finished their career. Hopefully Gary Kirsten will tap the potential of these young players. Abdullah is an all format player unlike haris etc.

 

[ExpressPacer]

He may not be better than suad shakeel currently but there won't be a comparison when both have finished their career. Hopefully Gary Kirsten will tap the potential of these young players. Abdullah is an all format player unlike haris etc.

Well … he’s gotta start holding onto his catches before he can think about even having a career.

I have more faith in Saud but I won’t complain if they both end up having great careers.

Neither come close to Haris in terms of LOI ability though but Saud is considerably better than Abdullah as of now for LOIs.

 

[mominsaigol]

He may not be better than suad shakeel currently but there won't be a comparison when both have finished their career. Hopefully Gary Kirsten will tap the potential of these young players. Abdullah is an all format player unlike haris etc.

Saud has more talent then Abdullah. Saud literally had the best sixes hit in the PSL.

People are taking his Australian Test series and calling him a pedestrian way to literally.


Abdullah is best when it comes to technique, he has excellent defense. And has traditionally shots.

Saud has more strokeplay especially against spin. Saud can be the busy player for Pakistan while Abdullah can be the traditional player. Both players have the ability to play extremely long innings and love the ability to bat through and score big.

These 2 are amazing and I'm tired of Babar and rizwan being pushed over these 2, Rizwan especially. Babar is fine to some extent ig.

 

[Sher Khan]

Harsh truth is he is as mediocre as every other young Pak batsman out there. Fans are just clamouring over him because he scored a 30 vs SA

 

[mominsaigol]

Harsh truth is he is as mediocre as every other young Pak batsman out there. Fans are just clamouring over him because he scored a 30 vs SA

Aren't you the guy who said 2024 Pakistan is their strongest t20 team in history

 

[Sher Khan]

Aren't you the guy who said 2024 Pakistan is their strongest t20 team in history

When did I say that?

 

[cricketmania22]

Think he unfollowed Babar and Shaheen on Instagram as well.

If he unfollowed them then that shows a lack of maturity. He won’t go too far with that kind of attitude. He needs to pile up runs in domestic cricket to get his place back not unfollow people or throw a hissy fit when dropped.

 

[mominsaigol]

When did I say that?

You made a thread lol

 

[Rana]

Harsh truth is he is as mediocre as every other young Pak batsman out there. Fans are just clamouring over him because he scored a 30 vs SA

His batting doesn’t have all bases covered

 

[gazza619]

Its time for Haris to depart from Pakistan. This country doesnt deserve you buddy.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Harsh truth is he is as mediocre as every other young Pak batsman out there. Fans are just clamouring over him because he scored a 30 vs SA

I agree with you, but first let's give him enough chances in white ball cricket. It's sad to see him going down the path of Asif Ali.

 

[mominsaigol]

His batting doesn’t have all bases covered

It takes alot of time for players to form tbh. Pakistan has no clue on how to gell a team. I've been waiting since 2011 and the only time we gelled a team was in 2017.

2017 had the right idea, Pick PSL superstars and play them at their correct position and give them a couple of tours with zero changes irrespective of failure.

The only thing that was left was to replace shehzad with fakhar which ended up happening.

It also helped that Pakistan walked into the champions trophy with literally zero expectations. If you Wath nadir Ali podcast, Sarfraz said that he told the team to mot let India loss effect them because the outcome was expected, only celebrate victory.

It's also why he had a frequent habit of preventing his bowlers like hasan Ali to do any nonsense celebration. He hated any celebrations until victory was clear.

My issue is we don't even select based of PSL anymore. Usman Khan yes, but what about saud shakeel? He's one of the best openers in psl, same with tayyab, he had the best avg and sr ratio in psl. But their missing.

Lastly, idk what this ego is, Babar goes with the expectation that he'll easily win every time? Like after 2022, Babar said, we reached finals of Asia cup, and finals of 2022 t20 wc, I just feel it that 2023 is it, it's in our grasp.

Like yeah Babar what happened their? This overconfidence needs to stop.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Seems immature like his batting too. What has Shaheen for to him. I understand Babar as he dropped him for Peshawar Zalmi.

Deserved to be dropped after averaging 15 at a SR of 132 in 10 innings.

Babar carried him in the team despite his failures, and now he has people questioning him about having a grudge against Haris lol

 

[Rana]

Deserved to be dropped after averaging 15 at a SR of 132 in 10 innings.

Babar carried him in the team despite his failures, and now he has people questioning him about having a grudge against Haris lol

Babar carried him how? By playing in his batting position?

 

[cricketmania22]

The most absurd thing people say is XYZ didn’t perform because they were not playing in their “usual” position. No new comer gets to choose the position they want to bat at. They have to earn it first. Also there isn’t much of a difference play at number 1/2 or playing at number 3.

 

[Rana]

No new comer gets to choose the position they want to bat at

In which world?

Which country picks new comers to bat in a position they didn’t score runs in besides Pakistan???

 

[mominsaigol]

Deserved to be dropped after averaging 15 at a SR of 132 in 10 innings.

Babar carried him in the team despite his failures, and now he has people questioning him about having a grudge against Haris lol

It's the opposite, Haris carried babar in the 2022 wc against sa and Bangaldesh.

After the worls Cup due to fear of his own position haris was discarded quickly after.

The Afghanistan series was used as a scape goat for pcb, rather then losing and grooming new talent for experience which is what NZ does against Pakistan, PCB used that excuse to say Ha Ha this is what happens when Babar and rizwan do not play.

That team got 1 W over Afghanistan when our main A string team got butchered in wc.

The team that we selected + our emerging acc team + the inclusion of saud shakeel is what we should have used for multiple tours post 2022 with babar and rizwan occasionally coming in, otherwise focusing in leagues.

You know like HOW EVERY TOP TEAM IN THE WORLD DECIDES TO STRUCTURE THEIR GOD DAMN TEAMS.

 

[shaz619]

I think Haris has rubbed someone the wrong way in the higher management, and his performances are too mediocre of late to justify any sort of recall.

Only has himself to blame for not performing. Averaged 15 in 10 innings, with a strike-rate of 132 this PSL. Those are terrible figures no matter how much you like Haris.

That’s still a higher S/R then Riswan from the PSL despite not being at his peak form and he can keep to, not even being in the squad is fishy.

I would take an out of form Harris over Riswan & his damaging knocks any day.

 

[cricketmania22]

In which world?

Which country picks new comers to bat in a position they didn’t score runs in besides Pakistan???

Every team. Rohit Sharma stated as Lowe middle batsman j. 2007 WC. Viral Kohli in 2009 CT and 2011 WC was playing at number 5/6 and number 4/5. Gilchrist and Ponting started as lower middle orders. Heck Twndulkar had to beg for the opening position. It wasn’t until 1994 he was given the opening slot. And that too when he said give me change just for one series. He wasn’t batting even at number 3 before that. Check his batting positions in 92 World Cup and he debuted in 1998/99. He started his career out number 5 position.

 

[PakEngFan]

Deserved to be dropped after averaging 15 at a SR of 132 in 10 innings.

Babar carried him in the team despite his failures, and now he has people questioning him about having a grudge against Haris lol

I agree even if he thought he was dropped unjustly it's Babar he should have an issue.

 

[PakEngFan]

Babar carried him how? By playing in his batting position?

He's always been a middle order bat since his u19 days. Batting at 3 is perfectly fine. It's not like he batted at 7 or something.

 

[Usman Chadda]

That’s still a higher S/R then Riswan from the PSL despite not being at his peak form and he can keep to, not even being in the squad is fishy.

I would take an out of form Harris over Riswan & his damaging knocks any day.

He has to score runs to be considered, a SR of 132 is mediocre and being barely better than Rizwan while making zero runs is nothing to be proud of.

 

[Rana]

being barely better than Rizwan while making zero runs is nothing to be proud of.

Rizwan is one of the first names on the team sheet. His position is unquestionable. So if he is barely better, how can Harris not make the side?!

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan is one of the first names on the team sheet. His position is unquestionable. So if he is barely better, how can Harris not make the side?!

The question I bring up is saud shakeel, how can a dude who has a superior sr and avg to rizwan at opening not be considered? According to Everyone Saud is way too slow. Which I agree with to an extent but

If saud is Slow, then by this logic doesn't rizwan not warrant a place? Or will people hide behind the keeping clause for the millionth time?

If we are going the anchoring route, saud and saim are better options them babar/ Saim or rizwan/ saim. Mainly due to saud ability to hit sixes and his superior ability to take singles and doubles.

Dude has 30 points extra sr then rizwan does.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Ahmed Shehzad just ripped Haris to shreds on live TV today. The guy doesn’t have an agenda, nor does he support Babar and his camp.

Can’t post it here due to obvious reasons, but I believe someone might have picked up on this.

 

[mominsaigol]

Ahmed Shehzad just ripped Haris to shreds on live TV today. The guy doesn’t have an agenda, nor does he support Babar and his camp.

Can’t post it here due to obvious reasons, but I believe someone might have picked up on this.

No, shehzad has been trying to get back in the team for ages. He knows full well to do that he needs to suck up to babar and lick his boots lol.

He's been doing this since 2022 lol.

 

[shaz619]

He has to score runs to be considered, a SR of 132 is mediocre and being barely better than Rizwan while making zero runs is nothing to be proud of.

In order to have a S/R, you need to score some runs. You quoted an S/R of 132 right, am not sure why you are using the figure of 0 for runs scored, it's more of a special needs figure.

An out of form Harris scoring fewer runs at a better chip, is still a better selection then Riswan's spiritual journey to the 180 total.

And we're just making direct comparisons here, but there is no excuse whatsoever to not include Harris in the squad. If Molvi Saab gets injured, is your Flower Baap going to bat in the top order?

 

[cricketmania22]

The question I bring up is saud shakeel, how can a dude who has a superior sr and avg to rizwan at opening not be considered? According to Everyone Saud is way too slow. Which I agree with to an extent but

If saud is Slow, then by this logic doesn't rizwan not warrant a place? Or will people hide behind the keeping clause for the millionth time?

If we are going the anchoring route, saud and saim are better options them babar/ Saim or rizwan/ saim. Mainly due to saud ability to hit sixes and his superior ability to take singles and doubles.

Dude has 30 points extra sr then rizwan does.

I’m not even going to talk about Babar because Saud, Harris, Said are no match to him.

Let’s talk about Rizwan, yes he’s a quiet 204 PSL, but in 2023 PSL he averaged 55@SR of 145. Plus he was third highest scorer in 2021 T20 WC. When Harris and/or Saud can achieve that they can replace Rizwan or anybody else in the playing X1.

 

[Rana]

I’m not even going to talk about Babar because Saud, Harris, Said are no match to him.

Let’s talk about Rizwan, yes he’s a quiet 204 PSL, but in 2023 PSL he averaged 55@SR of 145. Plus he was third highest scorer in 2021 T20 WC. When Harris and/or Saud can achieve that they can replace Rizwan or anybody else in the playing X1.

Fakhar has been killing it in the PSL two seasons in a row before this season. Why are you guys making excuses for him not to open??!

 

[mominsaigol]

I’m not even going to talk about Babar because Saud, Harris, Said are no match to him.

Let’s talk about Rizwan, yes he’s a quiet 204 PSL, but in 2023 PSL he averaged 55@SR of 145. Plus he was third highest scorer in 2021 T20 WC. When Harris and/or Saud can achieve that they can replace Rizwan or anybody else in the playing X1.

Do they also have to match babar and rizwan for 2022 wc and 2022 asia cup? Or are they exempt from such a privilege

 

[TeymurBlake]

Mohammad Haris should definitely go to a PSL team where he is playing regularly as a keeper batter.

He needs regular games. Even if his numbers aren't good in international cricket, he still should have been backed.

Obviously he's not Jos Buttler, but just look at how long it took him to get his act together & showcase his potential.

 

[cricketmania22]

Do they also have to match babar and rizwan for 2022 wc and 2022 asia cup? Or are they exempt from such a privilege

Everybody can have a quiet tournament. But these players have a history of of performing and winning matches. What does Saud Harris have to show off?

 

[mominsaigol]

Everybody can have a quiet tournament. But these players have a history of of performing and winning matches. What does Saud Harris have to show off?

Right, Quiet tournament. Clearly they didn't set thr national alarm bell. Nepal E Azam INCOMINGGGGGGGG