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Is it time that the ICC tested Jasprit Bumrah’s action?

BDfanforever said:
He may or may not chuck, but his hyperextension is too OP for the game. He has the highest degree of hyperextension compared to any bowlers in the history of Cricket.
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What you on about ..it's more visible because of short run up and late release.. Shoaib Akhtar had bigger hyperextension
 
Josh said:
What you on about ..it's more visible because of short run up and late release.. Shoaib Akhtar had bigger hyperextension
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Was it measured? Or if it did, how? You must be hired by BICC adding bionic vision to their measurement TOOLS!
 
shaz619 said:
Even with such an advantage / suspected chucking, you still need a serviceable IQ and have to be able to nail your lengths & variations; he won them the match with that final over….
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No arguments there! When people rationalize, it makes things more hilarious 😂

Even chucking requires a good aiming skill for sure!
 
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No Official Reporting: Unlike other bowlers who have been scrutinized for similar actions, Bumrah has never been officially reported or forced to undergo mandatory, in-competition testing by the ICC.
 
CricVet said:
Alright brooo....you are one smart cookie, and rest of the world full of fools.
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Certainly rest of the world is not fool..that's why they never complained about Bumrah ..I have seen this complain only from Pakistani and Bangladeshi fans ..not even from Ban- Pak cricketers
 
Josh said:
Certainly rest of the world is not fool..that's why they never complained about Bumrah ..I have seen this complain only from Pakistani and Bangladeshi fans ..not even from Ban- Pak cricketers
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You are cool my friend. May you have a wonderful time in that bubble!
 
Josh said:
Certainly rest of the world is not fool..that's why they never complained about Bumrah ..I have seen this complain only from Pakistani and Bangladeshi fans ..not even from Ban- Pak cricketers
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I'll try and polite here so as not to cause too much offence...

Greed: If it's wasn't for the 1.5 billion Indian public, there would be no money in cricket....

Quiet a few Indian posters here come out with "so what we're rich and are powerful" argument, this works both ways
 
Josh said:
No ..because it's not possible to chuck with Bumrah action.so lab testing isn't done..his is approx 6-8 degree from the visual analysis and Shoaib was around 10
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Right so why was every other bowler who was called by an umpire then sent for testing? Are umpires now so proficient that they can tell when a bowler has hyperextension and so won't bother to call them?

Bear in mind that Bumrah's arm resembles more of Javelin throwers arm then a bowler
 
IMMY69 said:
I'll try and polite here so as not to cause too much offence...

Greed: If it's wasn't for the 1.5 billion Indian public, there would be no money in cricket....

Quiet a few Indian posters here come out with "so what we're rich and are powerful" argument, this works both ways
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Indian spinner Pragyan Ojha was suspended for chucking around 2014. Harabhajan was reported for chucking for His dusra. Suresh Raina was also checked I believe. Indian cricketers have been biomechanically tested when suspected for chucking ..
There is no point in randomly checking anyone. One has to be suspected first, and then he is tested.
 
Josh said:
Indian spinner Pragyan Ojha was suspended for chucking around 2014. Harabhajan was reported for chucking for His dusra. Suresh Raina was also checked I believe. Indian cricketers have been biomechanically tested when suspected for chucking ..
There is no point in randomly checking anyone. One has to be suspected first, and then he is tested.
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Yes and of these, how many were fast bowlers?
 
IMMY69 said:
Right so why was every other bowler who was called by an umpire then sent for testing? Are umpires now so proficient that they can tell when a bowler has hyperextension and so won't bother to call them?

Bear in mind that Bumrah's arm resembles more of Javelin throwers arm then a bowler
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When was Bumrah called out by an Umpire?
 
Josh said:
None ..because Indian fast bowlers didn't chuck
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Actually, in my opinion Prabhakar used to chuck the odd one...

Buts that's besides the point.
Bumrah is a fast bowler either way record that may surpass many legend of the game, a source of national pride for India...
 
IMMY69 said:
Actually, in my opinion Prabhakar used to chuck the odd one...

Buts that's besides the point.
Bumrah is a fast bowler either way record that may surpass many legend of the game, a source of national pride for India...
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He probably did chuck ..I am talking about around 2000-2010s when Harabhajan and others were checked
 
Josh said:
So why will ICC check it on the whims of few Pakistani and Bangladeshi fans?
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lol
Here we go again.

Connect the dots yourself.

Ask yourself this question, how would you feel and what would be your opinion if Bumrah was a Pakistani, bowling fast, taking bucket loads of wickets and had a bend in arm?

Would assume it was just hyperextension would you be demanding the action get tested?
 
Prabharkar was not a chucker. Bumrah is not a chucker; chucking fast bowlers don't exist /never existed in India, only other nations.
 
IMMY69 said:
Right so why was every other bowler who was called by an umpire then sent for testing? Are umpires now so proficient that they can tell when a bowler has hyperextension and so won't bother to call them?

Bear in mind that Bumrah's arm resembles more of Javelin throwers arm then a bowler
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Did malinga ever get called?
 
Smbhayi said:
Did malinga ever get called?
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No because he had a slingy action and his arm did not straighten whilst releasing the ball.


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From Procter to Malinga: A celebration of weird bowling actions ...
Lasith Malinga was never officially called for throwing or suspended by the ICC for his action. Although his unique "slingy" round-arm action (nicknamed "Slinga Malinga") drew scrutiny due to its unusual nature, it was deemed legal because his arm did not straighten from a bent position during the deliver
 
IMMY69 said:
lol
Here we go again.

Connect the dots yourself.

Ask yourself this question, how would you feel and what would be your opinion if Bumrah was a Pakistani, bowling fast, taking bucket loads of wickets and had a bend in arm?
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I would definitely suspect in the beginning but stop when he has played enough cricket. There are many analysis of his action available. Each team these days have analyst that decode action to play the bowler better. This is specially more so for a premium bowler like Bumrah. So many HD replays available, it isn't hard to find out whether he chucks or not.
 
IMMY69 said:
No because he had a slingy action and his arm did not straighten whilst releasing the ball.


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Lasith Malinga was never officially called for throwing or suspended by the ICC for his action. Although his unique "slingy" round-arm action (nicknamed "Slinga Malinga") drew scrutiny due to its unusual nature, it was deemed legal because his arm did not straighten from a bent position during the deliver
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Well Bumra arm also not straightening, it actually bent backwards... Tbh it almost impossible to chuck with slingy action..
 
CricVet said:
Prabharkar was not a chucker. Bumrah is not a chucker; chucking fast bowlers don't exist /never existed in India, only other nations.
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Go report it man..why don't Pakistani players do it? Why don't Pakistani umpires do it.
 
Josh said:
I would definitely suspect in the beginning but stop when he has played enough cricket. There are many analysis of his action available. Each team these days have analyst that decode action to play the bowler better. This is specially more so for a premium bowler like Bumrah. So many HD replays available, it isn't hard to find out whether he chucks or not.
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Arrh but that's not saying his action was officially tested in a laboratory where they hook you up and obtain 3D biomechanical models...
 
IMMY69 said:
Arrh but that's not saying his action was officially tested in a laboratory where they hook you up and obtain 3D biomechanical models...
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Is every bowler checked in the lab? One has to have a suspected action to be checked in the lab. A real suspect, not the suspect by some salty Pak Ban fans 🤣
 
Josh said:
Go report it man..why don't Pakistani players do it? Why don't Pakistani umpires do it.
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The PCB can't even pick the right T20 11 LOL...You think that they are capable of convincing anyone of chucking? They are the biggest tools on the planet 🙄
 
CricVet said:
Prabharkar was not a chucker. Bumrah is not a chucker; chucking fast bowlers don't exist /never existed in India, only other nations.
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Manoj Prabhakar, the former Indian all-rounder who played from 1984 to 1996, faced scrutiny regarding his bowling action, particularly during the early 1990s.

  • Questionable Action Claims: In December 1991, during India's tour of Australia, cricket observers raised concerns about Prabhakar's action, specifically when delivering his faster ball.
  • Nature of Accusations: Critics described it as an "illegal delivery" rather than a complete "straight-out chuck," suggesting it involved a "flick of the wrist consistent with a jerk of the elbow".
  • Context: While known as a steady swing bowler, these allegations emerged during a period where he was working to add pace to his bowling.
 
Prince of Dorne said:
Pakistan is the land of chuckers, fixers, bottle cap legends which why Pakistanis do not have the intellectual capacity to understand/accept the fact that great bowling can come purely from skill, discipline, and hard work and without chucking, fixing, or bottle capping.
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Yes all this is true..
Same can be said about England and Australia when it comes to ball tampering; likewise many non Pakistani players were caught up taking money from bookies...
 
IMMY69 said:
Manoj Prabhakar, the former Indian all-rounder who played from 1984 to 1996, faced scrutiny regarding his bowling action, particularly during the early 1990s.

  • Questionable Action Claims: In December 1991, during India's tour of Australia, cricket observers raised concerns about Prabhakar's action, specifically when delivering his faster ball.
  • Nature of Accusations: Critics described it as an "illegal delivery" rather than a complete "straight-out chuck," suggesting it involved a "flick of the wrist consistent with a jerk of the elbow".
  • Context: While known as a steady swing bowler, these allegations emerged during a period where he was working to add pace to his bowling.
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You think I was serious? That was meant to be for Josh - the defender of BICC!
 
Prince of Dorne said:
Pakistan is the land of chuckers, fixers, bottle cap legends which why Pakistanis do not have the intellectual capacity to understand/accept the fact that great bowling can come purely from skill, discipline, and hard work and without chucking, fixing, or bottle capping.
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Itni Juala hay under...Dar gyay Pakistani :D
 
Josh said:
Padosi are crying because their quality fast bowling stocks have fallen down dramatically and they haven't had any fast bowler who can come close to Bumrah in skills last 25 years.
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A lot of advantage of his bowling is because of the extension which allows the ball to be released as further up the pitch as possible with a whip like action. I think his release as a fast bowler is the furthest up the pitch release.

That's what ensures that the batsman will read it real late.

The extension also allows him to have a very short run up , practically a jump and couple of strides, because with such an extension a bowler doesn't need momentum to generate the pace akin to almost throwing.

It's a fast bowling hack rather than pure fast bowling.
 
bk19xsa said:
A lot of advantage of his bowling is because of the extension which allows the ball to be released as further up the pitch as possible with a whip like action. I think his release as a fast bowler is the furthest up the pitch release.

That's what ensures that the batsman will read it real late.

The extension also allows him to have a very short run up , practically a jump and couple of strides, because with such an extension a bowler doesn't need momentum to generate the pace akin to almost throwing.

It's a fast bowling hack rather than pure fast bowling.
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Extension is normal fast-bowling mechanics, not some “hack.” Fast bowlers are coached to release the ball as far in front so that batsmen get hurried up. Starc has the biggest extension more than 2.5 meter

Bumrah’s action just looks different because of the short run-up and late arm acceleration. His pace mainly comes from hip-shoulder rotation.What batsmen struggle with is the late pickup and sudden arm speed, which reduces reaction time. And that's skill and besides that he is pretty accurate too ..that's practice
 
CricVet said:
The PCB can't even pick the right T20 11 LOL...You think that they are capable of convincing anyone of chucking? They are the biggest tools on the planet 🙄
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They certainly would have if there was some substance to your allegations.
 
Josh said:
They certainly would have if there was some substance to your allegations.
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Sorry, it is a trust me bro statement :D, they are mostly incapable...haven't you already seen the thread, "qudrat ka Nizam" - that is PCB for you!
 
Let's be honest, the level of delusion & copium these jokers have is such that if Bumrah got cleared from the labs, these guys will say the lab results were doctored.

It is obviously too much to ask to appreciate once in a lifetime cricketing skills from a very humble cricketer who might just make his country win a consecutive world trophy along with all the other achievements he has already made in test cricket, as that'd go against their nationalistic pride & religious hatred
 
Azaad said:
Let's be honest, the level of delusion & copium these jokers have is such that if Bumrah got cleared from the labs, these guys will say the lab results were doctored.

It is obviously too much to ask to appreciate once in a lifetime cricketing skills from a very humble cricketer who might just make his country win a consecutive world trophy along with all the other achievements he has already made in test cricket, as that'd go against their nationalistic pride & religious hatred
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He is, without doubt, best bowler across all formats...and he has hyper extension, it's so clear to see...
 
bk19xsa said:
A lot of advantage of his bowling is because of the extension which allows the ball to be released as further up the pitch as possible with a whip like action. I think his release as a fast bowler is the furthest up the pitch release.

That's what ensures that the batsman will read it real late.

The extension also allows him to have a very short run up , practically a jump and couple of strides, because with such an extension a bowler doesn't need momentum to generate the pace akin to almost throwing.

It's a fast bowling hack rather than pure fast bowling.
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Bas kar pagle ab rulayega kya..abhi naha dhoke final dekhen aa jana ok
 
You could take away his pace his action and give him current shaheen level tools and he d still be a top bowler because half the game is in bowlers mind and this guy has a beast of a mind. Knows how to read game and knows what to do acc to batsman. Great bowler. Hoping fin Allen could show us great bating on sunday to have a fair and good contest
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I need a boat to enter into this thread lol It is a river of cries
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An absolute river of years. Delicious really.

Bumrah has played in games umpired by every member of the elite panel of ICC Umpires including Aleem Dar and Ahsan Raza from Pakistan. Not one of them has ever called him out or expressed doubt about his action

Pakistanis think their own fellow countrymen are BCCI agents who've been paid as part of an international conspiracy to protect Bumrah.

This probably also helps them rationalize why Pakistan lost to India in the world cup. After all, paid BCCI agent Aleem Dar was on their selection committee sabotaging the team.
 
Mesozoic said:
I just love how this only comes up when he wins a big game for India. :yk


Tells you what the actual intentions are..

And how much hurt there is in times like these..
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He was below his usual best during Eng test series last year. Nobody said he chucked. All the sooks lambasted him for being not good enough.

He was sensational in that BG series in Australia. Sooks then called him a generational chucker.
 
Well fans on pakpassion would just have to wait for Bumrah to get old and retire. So, we could have IND bowlers without much controversy with their bowling actions like Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, etc.
 
ICC should've tested Bumrah a long time ago. :inti

If Shoaib Akthar and Murali can get tested for hyperextensions, why not Bumrah?

Until Bumrah gets tested, his records should have an asterisk mark.
 
sweep_shot said:
ICC should've tested Bumrah a long time ago. :inti

If Shoaib Akthar and Murali can get tested for hyperextensions, why not Bumrah?

Until Bumrah gets tested, his records should have an asterisk mark.
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Most of the posters here think that you are mentally retarded, would you be kind enough to get yourself tested?

Considering the fact that you want ICC to test Bumrahs action without an actual proof, you should lead by example.

We will help you get a Visa for Indian travel considering there aren’t enough medical facilities available in the hell that is your country.
 
Can we all agree on one thing? Even if Bumrah is limping and trundling around 130K, he will still be super difficult to hit. There is just something about his bowling action which makes him OP. I would like to see him with proper action like Arshdeep, Zaheer, or even Ishant Sharma. Would we see massive difference once action is slightly adjusted or he will still be OP? Remains to be seen.
 
There’s no harm in having uniform testing. What can anyone lose? Test every bowler.

Bumrah, Shaheen (hopefully we find an issue), Tariq, anyone else.

Indians, no crying please - just asking for uniformity
 
TheSultan said:
There’s no harm in having uniform testing. What can anyone lose? Test every bowler.

Bumrah, Shaheen (hopefully we find an issue), Tariq, anyone else.

Indians, no crying please - just asking for uniformity
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Yea. Muzarbani.. all the cricketers should be lined up lol Dude you have to be reported by umpire first at any level , whinging about it in a forum doesn't count. Bumrah from the very young age never reported at any level. For the record BCCI did weed out Kamran khan who was hitting 145k even way back in 2008/9 for suspicious action. Ojha was reported , Bhajji was reported. Only guys with suspicious action will be reported.
 
TheSultan said:
There’s no harm in having uniform testing. What can anyone lose? Test every bowler.

Bumrah, Shaheen (hopefully we find an issue), Tariq, anyone else.

Indians, no crying please - just asking for uniformity
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Good point..now ask naqvi to blackmail ICC for this and do boycott drama for the same in next icc tournament.. good luck paijaan
 
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