Is it time to announce Salman Ali Agha as the ODI captain?

[Rana]

The time is right

Announce him as the ODI skipper. Boost his confidence going forward with 3 days left to a final.

He’s a very good captain. He’s the ideal person to lead Pakistan in all 3 formats if not atleast the white ball formats.

Well done Salman!

 

[Major]

Got his team into a final, thats good enough for me.

He knows his field placement and bowling options well. All the ex cricketers bashed him for using Nawaz and Saim, but he has utilized them well. No captain has used Nawaz aswell as Saim, this includes Sarfraz aswell.

Considering the whole political nature of the tournament and how crap the batting is, he has held the pressure well.

 

[Rana]

Got his team into a final, thats good enough for me.

He knows his field placement and bowling options well. All the ex cricketers bashed him for using Nawaz and Saim, but he has utilized them well. No captain has used Nawaz aswell as Saim, this includes Sarfraz aswell.

Considering the whole political nature of the tournament and how crap the batting is, he has held the pressure well.

Everyone has been after him with pitchforks

But he’s delivered Pakistan to a final at least!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Rana G, please wait a bit....he may not lose his mind because of too much happiness

The time is right

Announce him as the ODI skipper. Boost his confidence going forward with 3 days left to a final.

He’s a very good captain. He’s the ideal person to lead Pakistan in all 3 formats if not atleast the white ball formats.

Well done Salman!

 

[Rana]

Rana G, please wait a bit....he may not lose his mind because of too much happiness

It’s better now than after the final

The time is right now.

I’ll speak to Salman Naseer

 

[Major]

Everyone has been after him with pitchforks

But he’s delivered Pakistan to a final at least!

Babars and Rizwans biggest flaw was using allrounders. They went with old school thinking that AKram also backs that use ur full time bowlers. ANd often babar had no options left.

Agha keeps options and if Saim bowls a good voer, he will even use him for 3 or 4 overs. That is good captaincy.

 

[Barragan]

His captaincy has been outstanding!

He didn't let SL off the hook when they were 5 down (like Babar did previously) or even let india chase down the total in the 15th or 16th over like it would have been the case previously and that in turn meant the nrr wasn't hurt too much

No one else can do the same job captaincy wise

Finally found a solid captain

 

[tiger_khan]

The time is right

Announce him as the ODI skipper. Boost his confidence going forward with 3 days left to a final.

He’s a very good captain. He’s the ideal person to lead Pakistan in all 3 formats if not atleast the white ball formats.

Well done Salman!

No, not now.

He is is struggling with pressure when it comes to his own performance.

His head is falling more than usual and his bat is almost horizontal every ball.

If they make him captain of the ODI now, he won't be concentrate on himself.


I am telling you guys, he is a much better player than he is performing currently. He is struggling performing multiple roles.
He should concentrate on his personal performance right now. If they make him ODI captain now, it will add to pressure and might affect his game negatively even more.

 

[mrtaim3]

He has a good head on his shoulders but i still think he has no place in the T20i. He has no 2nd gear. He is although a very good test and odi player where he has performed too consistently. I believe he should be made captain of both of those formats and let maybe Shaheen or Saim (he really needs to start batting.. he seems smart and doesn’t bottle under pressure) captain the T20 side.

 

[Abid Z]

Really agha is Pakistan’s best all format player. He’s a useful all rounder nothing flashy keeps his head and soaks up pressure. Makes tidy contributions and just seems to gel the team. He might make mistakes but he’s never asleep at the wheel.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Babars and Rizwans biggest flaw was using allrounders. They went with old school thinking that AKram also backs that use ur full time bowlers. ANd often babar had no options left.

Agha keeps options and if Saim bowls a good voer, he will even use him for 3 or 4 overs. That is good captaincy.

He sometimes uses part timers too much

 

[IMMY69]

His captaincy has been outstanding!

He didn't let SL off the hook when they were 5 down (like Babar did previously) or even let india chase down the total in the 15th or 16th over like it would have been the case previously and that in turn meant the nrr wasn't hurt too much

No one else can do the same job captaincy wise

Finally found a solid captain

You're comparing him to someone who was an absolutely shambles as a captain....

I'm sure Salman is a lovely lad, cares for his players and the country and has very good intentions... BUT in a T20 the captain has to be contributing in one of the two disciplines which I'm afraid he isn't

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1971283690564292772

 

[prash88]

 

[Boyka]

Let’s see how the final goes, at least this team have fight. Haven’t had it since Sarfraz.

 

[psyoptica]

Babars and Rizwans biggest flaw was using allrounders. They went with old school thinking that AKram also backs that use ur full time bowlers. ANd often babar had no options left.

Agha keeps options and if Saim bowls a good voer, he will even use him for 3 or 4 overs. That is good captaincy.

Where was this captaincy in the last came vs India?

 

[Savak]

Babar and Rizwan will make his life hell if this happens

 

[gazza619]

Agha main role is as a batter. What credentials has he shown as a batter in T20 cricket?

 

[cricketmania22]

If he is such a good captain let him play cricket captain on his phone. His primary job as a batsman is to score runs, if he fails to do that then he should be kicked out. This stupidity of making non performers as your captains should end.

 

[Abid Z]

Less than 12 month ago he was helping Pak win 3-0 against SAF with bat and ball. Prior to that he made some gritty 50’s in tests v England and West Indies. T20’s may not be his forte but a cool head and a straight bat is exactly what the team needs on occasion. Odi are exactly his format.

 

[Major]

Where was this captaincy in the last came vs India?

who cares about INdia

 

[nish_mate]

PCB can be bold and make him a non playing captain, he can come on as a fielding sub and captain the team....

 

[Abid Z]

You're comparing him to someone who was an absolutely shambles as a captain....

I'm sure Salman is a lovely lad, cares for his players and the country and has very good intentions... BUT in a T20 the captain has to be contributing in one of the two disciplines which I'm afraid he isn't

We’ve had worse t20 non contributing captain. Younis khan. This is Pakistan cricket we do allow certain anomalies. But ODI are his stronger suit.

 

[Barragan]

You're comparing him to someone who was an absolutely shambles as a captain....

I'm sure Salman is a lovely lad, cares for his players and the country and has very good intentions... BUT in a T20 the captain has to be contributing in one of the two disciplines which I'm afraid he isn't

We've also seen Rizwan and Shaheen as well, but none of them were good enough

You really think Pakistan would have won today under a different captain?

Captaincy is very important in a fast paced game like T20 because the game can get away from you in a jiffy

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Better suited for ODI cricket but not for T20Is for sure

 

[shamaan]

I would remove him as a t20 captain and make shaheen Captain in that for at.In Odis and Tests he can be made captain.

 

[Azaad]

Sure, PCT should announce a glorified placeholder to lead both white ball teams. Great strategy!

 

[TheSultan]

The dream is still alive!

Glad he’s getting his dues

 

[Rana]

Agha main role is as a batter. What credentials has he shown as a batter in T20 cricket?

Why you have an issue with him? Because he isn’t from the 33?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

No more personal comments

 

[heddie19]

Even if Rizwan starts playing leftie and Babar start playing on one leg and one arm, they're better cricketers than Salman.

 

[jnaveen1980]

We've also seen Rizwan and Shaheen as well, but none of them were good enough

You really think Pakistan would have won today under a different captain?

Captaincy is very important in a fast paced game like T20 because the game can get away from you in a jiffy

Babar is a terrible captain. but if you use this metric even Babar is great captain lol Beating Oman, UAE, Afghanitan, Bangaldesh. Babar has a 10 out of 10 wins against these team.

 

[heddie19]

This chewing gum captain in the only captain in the history of Pak T20I to have a negative Win/Loss ratio.

 

[Caved12]

It’s time to call it out, Salman Ali Agha is a garbage T20 batsman and has already proven himself to be a garbage, dummy captain in this format. The fact that he is already Pakistan’s T20I captain and is now being considered for ODI captaincy shows how little sense the decision makers and certain fans have about cricket. But since this is Pakistan, anything can happen, a struggling player who should be dropped from the T20I side after Sunday regardless of the result might just end up being promoted to ODI captaincy, simply because he’s the perfect puppet for Naqvi, Hesson, and Aaqib.

 

[heddie19]

It’s time to call it out, Salman Ali Agha is a garbage T20 batsman and has already proven himself to be a garbage, dummy captain in this format. The fact that he is already Pakistan’s T20I captain and is now being considered for ODI captaincy shows how little sense the decision makers and certain fans have about cricket. But since this is Pakistan, anything can happen, a struggling player who should be dropped from the T20I side after Sunday regardless of the result might just end up being promoted to ODI captaincy, simply because he’s the perfect puppet for Naqvi, Hesson, and Aaqib.

100%.

 

[psyoptica]

who gives a **** about INdia

Yeah right. Watch the India v Pak match thread grow to thousands of pages.

 

[Major]

This chewing gum captain in the only captain in the history of Pak T20I to have a negative Win/Loss ratio.

What?
Plz show us

 

[Major]

It’s time to call it out, Salman Ali Agha is a garbage T20 batsman and has already proven himself to be a garbage, dummy captain in this format. The fact that he is already Pakistan’s T20I captain and is now being considered for ODI captaincy shows how little sense the decision makers and certain fans have about cricket. But since this is Pakistan, anything can happen, a struggling player who should be dropped from the T20I side after Sunday regardless of the result might just end up being promoted to ODI captaincy, simply because he’s the perfect puppet for Naqvi, Hesson, and Aaqib.

You can bash him as a t20 batsman, but on what basis are you bashing his captaincy?

 

[Farabi]

Anyone who sides with you is nothing but a liar and a garbage poster, repeatedly exposed by me time and time again. At this point, I’m tired of exposing you all, it’s clear you’re stubborn and spend every waking moment on this forum with one purpose: derailing threads, attacking posters personally, and arguing without reason. And as always, after getting owned again and again, when I start ignoring you, you can’t help but tag or quote me nonstop. It’s like you can’t function without my attention, so here you go, I’m giving you this reply just to help you through your therapy sessions.

Speaking of exposing, we are all still waiting for Rizwan’s stats lower down the order. I asked you for those stats and you never posted them.

 

[Greenstorm]

Don't know about ODIs but his future in T20Is is uncertain. How can you usher into new era of high intent cricket with a captain whose strike rate is in 120s ?

 

[Caved12]

You can bash him as a t20 batsman, but on what basis are you bashing his captaincy?

So many wrong decisions have been made. Even in that India game, giving extra overs to Saim and Abrar, who couldn’t get their lengths right, all within the first seven overs, was a blunder. You really see the quality of a captain when the opposition is tough and the game is big, even if he himself is a flop with the bat. I’ve pointed out his mistakes with bowling and batting changes many times before, and it keeps happening.

The truth is, he’s been lucky. Other teams have been extremely poor and ended up losing games despite chasing low totals. Pakistan has won because the bowlers not only bowled well but also chipped in with the bat, not because of his captaincy. That alone proves captaincy had nothing to do with it. He doesn’t deserve to be captain, or even a player, in this format. He’s a dummy captain, with every playing XI and bowling/batting change clearly coming straight from the dressing room and Aaqib. However you look at it, that’s the reality of what’s happening.

 

[Rana]

When @Major is questioning you whilst being a diehard RizBar fan….


You know your in big trouble

 

[topspin]

So many wrong decisions have been made. Even in that India game, giving extra overs to Saim and Abrar, who couldn’t get their lengths right, all within the first seven overs, was a blunder. You really see the quality of a captain when the opposition is tough and the game is big, even if he himself is a flop with the bat. I’ve pointed out his mistakes with bowling and batting changes many times before, and it keeps happening.

The truth is, he’s been lucky. Other teams have been extremely poor and ended up losing games despite chasing low totals. Pakistan has won because the bowlers not only bowled well but also chipped in with the bat, not because of his captaincy. That alone proves captaincy had nothing to do with it. He doesn’t deserve to be captain, or even a player, in this format. He’s a dummy captain, with every playing XI and bowling/batting change clearly coming straight from the dressing room and Aaqib. However you look at it, that’s the reality of what’s happening.

You’re dishonest. The only reason why you’re slagging him off is because he’s taken over from Babar and Rizwan.

I mean sure criticise is batting by all means but to go after him for his captaincy makes your agenda far more visible to your audience. The fact that you are getting so emotional about it tells us there’s more than what meets the eye.

Please share us your X account so we can see what kind of banners you are generating on WordArt to promote Babar and Rizwan.

 

[Mamoon]

It is time to announce Shaheen Afridi as the white ball captain. Agha should be dropped from T20Is. He is good for Tests and ODIs but he doesn’t merit captaincy over Shaheen Afridi.

 

[topspin]

Salman Agha has impressed me as a specialist captain.

His batting isn’t great, so let’s hide him down the order.

The tears dripping into the keyboards and phones from the Babar and Rizwan fan club is very satisfying to watch. So much so I’ve decided to order Rizwan butt flavoured popcorn so I can feed it to the likes of Caved and Raja Isthiaq.

 

[Rana]

This just proves how dumb you are as a poster. Anyone can ask a cricket related question on a cricket forum, what does that have to do with Rizwan, Babar, or being some diehard fan? I get that you’ve lost it completely, but at least try to act normal.

Puttar thanda ho ja.

0-5. That’s your Lord’s captaincy record.


Rizwan fans should refrain from commenting on captaincy standards.

 

[topspin]

Babar is a terrible captain. but if you use this metric even Babar is great captain lol Beating Oman, UAE, Afghanitan, Bangaldesh. Babar has a 10 out of 10 wins against these team.

Why did you exclude USA and Zimbabwe?

 

[topspin]

Dishonesty is when you invent lies about another poster and follow them around just to get their attention.

Dishonesty is when you drag Rizwan and Babar into every post even when they’re not being discussed.

Dishonesty is when 90% of your posts are nothing but personal attacks.

Everyone knows you’re hating on the captain because of your agenda.

I’m not the only person who’s called this out. Do I need to pull up what other posters have said about you?

Everytime Pakistan win, you’re discontent and it’s always been about Babar and Rizwan.

 

[Rana]

The truth is, he’s been lucky. Other teams have been extremely poor and ended up losing games despite chasing low totals

Pakistan had one job to do, and that was score 120 in NY under Babar’s captaincy.

Is that “unlucky” or just the fact that the guy is a proven loser?

Rizwan got lucky in Sydney when Australia didn’t score 200+ and ended up on 140ish…

So what happened there?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Why did you exclude USA and Zimbabwe?

To be fair this team has not faced USA yet lol Don't under-estimate them in their own turf. They even had India in trouble. Netravalkar dismissed both Rohit and kohli cheaply

 

[Major]

So many wrong decisions have been made. Even in that India game, giving extra overs to Saim and Abrar, who couldn’t get their lengths right, all within the first seven overs, was a blunder. You really see the quality of a captain when the opposition is tough and the game is big, even if he himself is a flop with the bat. I’ve pointed out his mistakes with bowling and batting changes many times before, and it keeps happening.

The truth is, he’s been lucky. Other teams have been extremely poor and ended up losing games despite chasing low totals. Pakistan has won because the bowlers not only bowled well but also chipped in with the bat, not because of his captaincy. That alone proves captaincy had nothing to do with it. He doesn’t deserve to be captain, or even a player, in this format. He’s a dummy captain, with every playing XI and bowling/batting change clearly coming straight from the dressing room and Aaqib. However you look at it, that’s the reality of what’s happening.

Haris Rauf and Faheem Ashraf are not new ball bowlers. That is not even Pakistans strategy. If Pakistan wanted to go with a new ball attack with pace, than Hasan Ali would had been playing instead of Rauf.

In the first 6 overs, every bowler of our got attacked against India. When Saim and Abrar were attacked in the first 2 overs, he went with Rauf and he also got attacked. I would had preferred for Saim to continue to bowl and Abrar be bought in after the pp, but the bowlers bowled just crap and Abhishek was just better.

He hasnt really been lucky, he has captained the team well. It was Babar as captain who had luck on his side, because Babar's style of captaincy was waiting for things to happen.

Games against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka were big games, because our batting failed, and bowling and captaincy had to do something. Agha went with the right options with the right field placements. Nawaz was a crap bowler, but under Agha he has been used well. No other captain uses Ayub this well.

Even during Misbah's captaincy, one way to take away credit away from him was critics saying that it was the bowlers taking wickets, captain did nothing. Agha uses his bowlers well and has good field placements in place.

I have been critical of his Hussain Talat move, yet it was that same guy who won us sri lanka match.

Today, the reason why he used pace on Bangladesh is because the Bengalis were expecting spin, and they cant really play pace well. When pace came upfront they had no clue so they tried to hit instead of build inninigs and lost wickets in the process.

 

[topspin]

To be fair this team has not faced USA yet lol Don't under-estimate them in their own turf. They even had India in trouble. Netravalkar dismissed both Rohit and kohli cheaply

I agree USA are not to be underestimated but let's be sincere here.

Pakistan recently beat Sri Lanka. In the 2022 Asia Cup Final, Pakistan got schooled by them when Babar was leading the team. Both him and Rizwan were the liabilities.

Having said all that, we need a bigger sample of games before jumping to conclusions.

 

[Rana]

Babars and Rizwans biggest flaw was using allrounders

I don’t think so. Their biggest flaw is that they never put the team ahead of themselves.

You cannot be a great leader until you do not think about the team before yourself.

 

[Caved12]

Haris Rauf and Faheem Ashraf are not new ball bowlers. That is not even Pakistans strategy. If Pakistan wanted to go with a new ball attack with pace, than Hasan Ali would had been playing instead of Rauf.

In the first 6 overs, every bowler of our got attacked against India. When Saim and Abrar were attacked in the first 2 overs, he went with Rauf and he also got attacked. I would had preferred for Saim to continue to bowl and Abrar be bought in after the pp, but the bowlers bowled just crap and Abhishek was just better.

He hasnt really been lucky, he has captained the team well. It was Babar as captain who had luck on his side, because Babar's style of captaincy was waiting for things to happen.

Games against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka were big games, because our batting failed, and bowling and captaincy had to do something. Agha went with the right options with the right field placements. Nawaz was a crap bowler, but under Agha he has been used well. No other captain uses Ayub this well.

Even during Misbah's captaincy, one way to take away credit away from him was critics saying that it was the bowlers taking wickets, captain did nothing. Agha uses his bowlers well and has good field placements in place.

I have been critical of his Hussain Talat move, yet it was that same guy who won us sri lanka match.

Today, the reason why he used pace on Bangladesh is because the Bengalis were expecting spin, and they cant really play pace well. When pace came upfront they had no clue so they tried to hit instead of build inninigs and lost wickets in the process.

You’re missing the point. It doesn’t matter who the new ball bowler was or who went for runs. the issue is that Saim (a part-time bowler) and Abrar both bowled poor first overs in the powerplay, clearly struggling with their lengths. As captain, you have to notice that and adjust on the fly. India got off to a good start against both spinners and didn’t lose a wicket. Going back to them instead of bringing on Faheem for the fifth and Haris for the sixth, regardless of whether they’re traditional new ball bowlers or not, was a poor call. A change was clearly needed after seeing how poor and nervous Saim and Abrar looked early on. That’s where the game was lost, within the first 7 overs.

His batting order decisions have also been all over the place. Sometimes he hides down the order, and other times he comes in when a proper hitter should’ve been sent. Every other batter has been shuffled around to different positions with no consistency. No wonder the batting has hit an all-time low, the team’s never been allowed to settle. He has mostly been lucky, and half of the decisions are fed to him from the dressing room. He's a dummy captain.

 

[Caved12]

Everyone knows you’re hating on the captain because of your agenda.

I’m not the only person who’s called this out. Do I need to pull up what other posters have said about you?

Everytime Pakistan win, you’re discontent and it’s always been about Babar and Rizwan.

It was you, @Rana, who is always discontent when Pakistan wins. You started this, every time Rizwan won Pakistan a game, you would try your best to downplay the win and act like a hater. You accuse others of the very things you do and the way you behave on this forum.

 

[Major]

You’re missing the point. It doesn’t matter who the new ball bowler was or who went for runs. the issue is that Saim (a part-time bowler) and Abrar both bowled poor first overs in the powerplay, clearly struggling with their lengths. As captain, you have to notice that and adjust on the fly. India got off to a good start against both spinners and didn’t lose a wicket. Going back to them instead of bringing on Faheem for the fifth and Haris for the sixth, regardless of whether they’re traditional new ball bowlers or not, was a poor call. A change was clearly needed after seeing how poor and nervous Saim and Abrar looked early on. That’s where the game was lost, within the first 7 overs.

His batting order decisions have also been all over the place. Sometimes he hides down the order, and other times he comes in when a proper hitter should’ve been sent. Every other batter has been shuffled around to different positions with no consistency. No wonder the batting has hit an all-time low, the team’s never been allowed to settle. He has mostly been lucky, and half of the decisions are fed to him from the dressing room. He's a dummy captain.

Saim is not a part time bowler just cause what people say.

If a fast bowler is not bowling the ball, than it becomes very difficult for a spinner to bowl the new ball as spinners are more likely to slip the ball. They cant grip it.

Saim is not only gripping the new ball but he is bowling the carrom delivery, which is even more crazy to do with the new ball.

So he is a proper bowler.

Harris and Fahim ashraf are not new ball bowlers, thats why they were not preferred. If Agha wants to bowl them with the new ball than he would had played Hassan Ali instead.


As for batting positions. In proper teams, Batting positions are never fixed. Agha sometimes doesnt come out to bat as in some games the situation required a hitter to come out. Agha mostly comes out when spinners are on.

 

[moghul]

The time is right

Announce him as the ODI skipper. Boost his confidence going forward with 3 days left to a final.

He’s a very good captain. He’s the ideal person to lead Pakistan in all 3 formats if not atleast the white ball formats.

Well done Salman!

Only if he stops chewing gum, he looks disgusting while doing that, I hate it.

 

[Caved12]

I don’t care whether anyone agrees with me or not, I’m just stating the reality. This team has been nothing short of a joke. They talked a big game about playing “modern cricket”, we heard it from Salman, Aaqib, and even Hesson but none of that intent or aggression has actually shown up in the batting. What we’ve seen instead is the same repeated top order collapses, with zero accountability.

Sure, in T20 cricket, some flexibility in the batting order is necessary. But that doesn’t mean you keep endlessly experimenting without ever settling on a structure. At some point, you need to stop tinkering and show clarity. That’s been completely missing.

Let’s be honest, there’s been no magic in either the coaching or captaincy. What actually woke this team up was the humiliation in the first game against India. They didn’t just lose, they were embarrassed. Then came the disrespect: no handshakes, post-match digs, and open criticism. That’s what lit a fire under the players, not some deep tactical insight from the dressing room.

To their credit, the players responded in the second India game with real fight. let’s not pretend this was part of some master plan. This was pride kicking in, not coaching brilliance.

As for Salman, he shouldn’t be anywhere near this T20I side going forward. And those blindly defending his captaincy need to wake up. You can’t justify his place in the XI based on leadership when both his form and decision making are so clearly lacking. Then to have him and his fans deliver lectures about "honest selection" and "how the game should be played" is completely disconnected from reality.

One player who has consistently stood up, with both bat and ball, is Shaheen. Let’s not forget, they were ready to move on from him in T20Is too. Only after someone probably reminded them how poor the rest of our bowling unit is, did they come to their senses and bring him back. He’s been a match winner while others have only offered sound bites in press conferences.

Bottom line: nothing we were promised, no “modern style,” no attacking mindset, has been delivered on the field. Any recent success has come down to individual heart and a bit of luck, not some grand strategy or leadership vision.

 

[Caved12]

Saim is not a part time bowler just cause what people say.

If a fast bowler is not bowling the ball, than it becomes very difficult for a spinner to bowl the new ball as spinners are more likely to slip the ball. They cant grip it.

Saim is not only gripping the new ball but he is bowling the carrom delivery, which is even more crazy to do with the new ball.

So he is a proper bowler.

Harris and Fahim ashraf are not new ball bowlers, thats why they were not preferred. If Agha wants to bowl them with the new ball than he would had played Hassan Ali instead.


As for batting positions. In proper teams, Batting positions are never fixed. Agha sometimes doesnt come out to bat as in some games the situation required a hitter to come out. Agha mostly comes out when spinners are on.

I said what I needed to say, and I will now close with this that you are wrong about Agha, Against India, Agha hid himself, sent Talat and Nawaz first and just when there was a need to send Harris or Afridi, he came out to bat himself and as always struggled. As for batting order, some flexibility is nice, but you don't see teams changing most of the numbers again and again and just about every game, even then their openers are often the same, and not too many changes in the top 5, even if that's the case, I am telling you what would work better for us, flexibility in lower order is fine, but top 4 for Pakistan should stay the same to have a stable batting order. Our batters are terrible with their technique and are not someone who would be comfortable with constant shuffling especially the top 4

 

[Caved12]

I don’t agree with the idea that Saim, who is essentially an accidental bowler, has suddenly become a full-time bowler just because he picked up a few wickets in the powerplay against weaker teams on helpful tracks. There’s no way Saim is a full-time bowler now. They might use him for the time being, but once he has a bad run, he'll go back to being a part time option, someone who bowls occasionally, or maybe just an over or two.

Yes, he’s definitely on the path to becoming a better bowler if he keeps working hard, but that day hasn’t arrived yet where we can seriously call him a proper bowler. To suggest otherwise is honestly a joke

 

[mominsaigol]

The time is right

Announce him as the ODI skipper. Boost his confidence going forward with 3 days left to a final.

He’s a very good captain. He’s the ideal person to lead Pakistan in all 3 formats if not atleast the white ball formats.

Well done Salman!

A very good captain and a true successor to sarfi.

So I wouldnt mind as we dont have anyone else to lead. For those saying shaheen, Shaheen is a bowler who has gotten back his rhythm but hes injury prone and might end his career if he gets captaincy.

Agha is a good choice.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I think he was always suited for ODI captaincy.. not for t20s... But I don't think Rizwan is going anywhere atm but Salman's performance in t20s is under the radar for sure.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Said this after a recent post match presser of his, he'd actually make a far better ODI captain than T20 captain because he's an excellent ODI batsman whereas his spot in that T20 batting lineup is very much questionable.

 

[gazza619]

Why you have an issue with him?

Because he has such a poor T-20 record that even Oman, UAE and Nepal team wouldn’t have him.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Because he has such a poor T-20 record that even Oman, UAE and Nepal team wouldn’t have him.

His place in t20s is not justified... Simple facts that only agenda-based guys will deny...

 

[Rana]

His place in t20s is not justified... Simple facts that only agenda-based guys will deny...

Ah yes, but honest people will want Babar or Rizwan in the T20 team?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Ah yes, but honest people will want Babar or Rizwan in the T20 team?

Not gonna take the name of riz... But yeah, seeing these guys batting, I will pick Babar

 

[Rana]

Not gonna take the name of riz... But yeah, seeing these guys batting, I will pick Babar

Bhai aap rehne dain

Aaj aap Harris ke peeche nahi parh rahe?

 

[Devadwal]

who cares about INdia

angoor khatte hain - Ye to Suna hi hoga

 

[mominsaigol]

Bhai aap rehne dain

Aaj aap Harris ke peeche nahi parh rahe?

That was my secret objective with @BouncerGuy and @gazza619 all along.

The man of the tournament thing is a bait. They cannot make fun of my man of the tournament claim without making fun of themsleves for claiming Haris is a poor t20 batsmen.

Haris has been the best batsmen for Pakistan this tournament by miles and its not even close. All this despite the positions hes getting.

Haris and Muhammad Nawaz tbf. I didnt like nawaz but credit there credit is due. Ue is a good player in UAE conditons.

 

[Devadwal]

Odi is best format for Agha.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Focus should on the t20 world cup. ODI in the meantime is just a distraction. No point unnecessarily burdening him. It is a lose/lose scenario for him.

Only way it could work if Hesson decides that the ODI team and the T20 team is going to be the same for the short term and then drops the non T20 players like Babar, Rizwan, Abdullah Shafique.

 

[khyberlion]

In odis he mertis a place and wouldn't mind him. But in t20s this Sunday should be his last game.

 

[gazza619]

That was my secret objective with @BouncerGuy and @gazza619 all along.

The man of the tournament thing is a bait. They cannot make fun of my man of the tournament claim without making fun of themsleves for claiming Haris is a poor t20 batsmen.

Haris has been the best batsmen for Pakistan this tournament by miles and its not even close. All this despite the positions hes getting.

Haris and Muhammad Nawaz tbf. I didnt like nawaz but credit there credit is due. Ue is a good player in UAE conditons.

M Haris is on the right track. A nice little match winning knock against Bangla brothers.

I still dont think number 6 suits his game. Should be batting at no.3.

Against India my top 4 would be:
Farhan
Saim
Haris
Fakhar

 

[Mamoon]

That was my secret objective with @BouncerGuy and @gazza619 all along.

The man of the tournament thing is a bait. They cannot make fun of my man of the tournament claim without making fun of themsleves for claiming Haris is a poor t20 batsmen.

Haris has been the best batsmen for Pakistan this tournament by miles and its not even close. All this despite the positions hes getting.

Haris and Muhammad Nawaz tbf. I didnt like nawaz but credit there credit is due. Ue is a good player in UAE conditons.

This isn’t even true.

Haris has had a poor tournament and he has done nothing to prove the myth that he is better than Rizwan. In fact, this Asia Cup has confirmed that selecting him over Rizwan in any format is a crime.

Let’s look at his performance, match by match:

1) 66 (43) @3 vs Oman - very good
2) 3 (5) @3 vs India - failure
3) 18 (14) @7 vs UAE - failure
4) DNB vs India
5) 13 (11) @6 vs Sri Lanka - failure
6) 31 (23) @6 vs Bangladesh - decent, but should have stayed until the end

He has basically played one very good knock in 5 attempts, so this narrative that he has had a good tournament and proved his critics wrong is completely untrue.

In fact, he has validated his critics and proved that he has a pea-sized brain and he doesn’t merit a position in the team as the first-choice WK, because he is clearly not better than Rizwan and his deficiencies go beyond his batting position which is just a convenient excuse for his failures.

His SR is only 136 in this tournament so it’s not like he has been impactful. This is the same SR ballpark where we find Babar and Rizwan who are supposedly outdated T20 players while Haris is supposedly a modern T20 player.

Pakistan’s best batsman funnily enough was has been Shaheen, who has played a decisive cameo in almost every match and his SR of 190 has given the team a big boost.

There is no truth to the assessment that Haris has been the best Pakistan batsman by miles. He has been the same as Farhan and Fakhar — mediocre, but better than the likes of Saim and Agha, who have been beyond pathetic and it’s pretty impossible to be as bad as they have been.

 

[shaz619]

The time is right

Announce him as the ODI skipper. Boost his confidence going forward with 3 days left to a final.

He’s a very good captain. He’s the ideal person to lead Pakistan in all 3 formats if not atleast the white ball formats.

Well done Salman!

Absolutely, against all odds he takes us to the final under immense uncalled for pressure, if Pak lost to BD, in my eyes he still deserved a long rope because we’re rebuilding this team; we’ve now gone one further and made it to the finals of a major tournament in his first go in a genuine competition. I am glad we did get to the final because the vultures were out for his neck already.

This Pakistan team is not perfect yet & they may even lose to India,

- The Batting order while flexible (a big positive) has been a bit disorganised.
- Our bowling includes pacers who are fossils of their past form
- We got AR’s who are inherently mediocre
- And the spinners, among other players are inexperienced / learning on the job

BUT,

There’s an edge to this team, the captain despite his flaws wants everyone to fight till the final bell.

This team does not fear defeat & will try and back themselves to keep going even when deep in the trenches.

This is what I’ve been demanding for years!

'Cause I was thinkin', it really don't matter if I lose this fight. It really don't matter if this guy opens my head, either. 'Cause all I wanna do is go the distance. Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standin', I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood.

 

[mominsaigol]

This isn’t even true.

Haris has had a poor tournament and he has done nothing to prove the myth that he is better than Rizwan. In fact, this Asia Cup has confirmed that selecting him over Rizwan in any format is a crime.

Let’s look at his performance, match by match:

1) 66 (43) @3 vs Oman - very good
2) 3 (5) @3 vs India - failure
3) 18 (14) @7 vs UAE - failure
4) DNB vs India
5) 13 (11) @6 vs Sri Lanka - failure
6) 31 (23) @6 vs Bangladesh - decent, but should have stayed until the end

He has basically played one very good knock in 5 attempts, so this narrative that he has had a good tournament and proved his critics wrong is completely untrue.

In fact, he has validated his critics and proved that he has a pea-sized brain and he doesn’t merit a position in the team as the first-choice WK, because he is clearly not better than Rizwan and his deficiencies go beyond his batting position which is just a convenient excuse for his failures.

His SR is only 136 in this tournament so it’s not like he has been impactful. This is the same SR ballpark where we find Babar and Rizwan who are supposedly outdated T20 players while Haris is supposedly a modern T20 player.

Pakistan’s best batsman funnily enough was has been Shaheen, who has played a decisive cameo in almost every match and his SR of 190 has given the team a big boost.

There is no truth to the assessment that Haris has been the best Pakistan batsman by miles. He has been the same as Farhan and Fakhar — mediocre, but better than the likes of Saim and Agha, who have been beyond pathetic and it’s pretty impossible to be as bad as they have been.

He's been marginally better then Fakhar and farhan and better then the others.

Also brother i never mentioned rizzu, he isnt in this tournament.

When did I claim hes better then rizzu? Or claim that Haris is the best hence forth > Rizzu?

Please dont confuse me with others, I'm not peddling any agendas.

I like Haris and feel like he was over hated due to his babar comments. And I feel like hes a good t20 batter for Pakistan to have.

I never forwarded him in odi or t20 and haris vs rizwan wasnt a discussion.

Rizwan being an opener should be compared with farhan or Fakhar.

As a keeper rizzu is better hence forth haris should be a backup keeper obviously. You need a backup keeper in the squad incase of injury.

 

[heddie19]

Yeah I heard it somewhere but just checked its Shahid Afridi. Salman is at 58%. Still a failure both as a captain and player and deserves to be sacked.

What?
Plz show us

 

[mominsaigol]

Yeah I heard it somewhere but just checked its Shahid Afridi. Salman is at 58%. Still a failure both as a captain and player and deserves to be sacked.

This chewing gum captain in the only captain in the history of Pak T20I to have a negative Win/Loss ratio.

@Rana

When will their dishonesty end . Have people forgotten how to speak the truth

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Yeah, reward him for his glorious performance in Asia cup.

Posters need to understand that not everyone is driven by a rigid agenda against some players.