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Is it time to announce Salman Ali Agha as the ODI captain?

Yeah, reward him for his glorious performance in Asia cup.

Posters need to understand that not everyone is driven by a rigid agenda against some players.
Tbf it's a tricky situation.

As a t20 batter he's been absolutely crap.

As a captain he has produced results. Other then india who even top sides struggle immensely against especially in spin conditons such as UAE

He has utilised the bowlers extremely well to restrict oppositions to lower totals or defend lower totals. And the team morale from the bowling stand point is high.

Yes credit should be given to the bowlers but the same bowlers in the same conditons were performing terribly against even minnows under Babar and Rizwan.

So it's another Sarfaraz Situation. Do you persist with a non performing captain who is producing results? Or do you risk someone in form like Shaheen and experiment?

The major issue with Agha atm is that as soon as Pakistan starts to flop against all oppositions like sarfi eventually was then he'll be axed ASAP.
 
I don’t care whether anyone agrees with me or not, I’m just stating the reality. This team has been nothing short of a joke. They talked a big game about playing “modern cricket”, we heard it from Salman, Aaqib, and even Hesson but none of that intent or aggression has actually shown up in the batting. What we’ve seen instead is the same repeated top order collapses, with zero accountability.

Sure, in T20 cricket, some flexibility in the batting order is necessary. But that doesn’t mean you keep endlessly experimenting without ever settling on a structure. At some point, you need to stop tinkering and show clarity. That’s been completely missing.

Let’s be honest, there’s been no magic in either the coaching or captaincy. What actually woke this team up was the humiliation in the first game against India. They didn’t just lose, they were embarrassed. Then came the disrespect: no handshakes, post-match digs, and open criticism. That’s what lit a fire under the players, not some deep tactical insight from the dressing room.

To their credit, the players responded in the second India game with real fight. let’s not pretend this was part of some master plan. This was pride kicking in, not coaching brilliance.

As for Salman, he shouldn’t be anywhere near this T20I side going forward. And those blindly defending his captaincy need to wake up. You can’t justify his place in the XI based on leadership when both his form and decision making are so clearly lacking. Then to have him and his fans deliver lectures about "honest selection" and "how the game should be played" is completely disconnected from reality.

One player who has consistently stood up, with both bat and ball, is Shaheen. Let’s not forget, they were ready to move on from him in T20Is too. Only after someone probably reminded them how poor the rest of our bowling unit is, did they come to their senses and bring him back. He’s been a match winner while others have only offered sound bites in press conferences.

Bottom line: nothing we were promised, no “modern style,” no attacking mindset, has been delivered on the field. Any recent success has come down to individual heart and a bit of luck, not some grand strategy or leadership vision.
Damn man - I’ve never seen someone so upset after his team have won a few games.

Tell the boss at SC that the propaganda war cannot be won on PP
 
Babar is a terrible captain. but if you use this metric even Babar is great captain lol Beating Oman, UAE, Afghanitan, Bangaldesh. Babar has a 10 out of 10 wins against these team.

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Interestingly you've left out Sri Lanka? 🤔

We've got eyes to see as well:
He didn't let SL off the hook when they were 5 down (like Babar did previously) or even let india chase down the total in the 15th or 16th over like it would have been the case previously and that in turn meant the nrr wasn't hurt too much
 
I am with the posters who don't like his T20 batting. But his captaincy is good.
Should he become the ODI captain or not? If I were the selector, I would make him the ODI captain. He bats well and bowls decently in ODIs. So, his place in the XI will not be questioned. He seems to be a level-headed captain, unlike our own SKY.
:)
 
I agree with @Rana On agha being made odi captain.

He's produced good results for t20 and has established Pakistan as the No 2 Asian side in world cricket.

The criticism is that he sucks as a batter in t20 but why would that be an issue in odi?

As an odi and test batter hes solid? So you are essentially killing 2 birds with one stone by having him captain.

Those advocating for shaheen dont realise that he will die an early cricketing death. He is not fit enough to lead and play full time.

Shaheen should be VC though, 100%
 
Srilanka is not a minnow. Multiple asia cup winners. WHy do you want to club them with those guys?
Then what's the meaning of your stats?

What are you trying to prove?

Under Agha Pakistan only won against minnows?

Under Babar we lost to the USA
 
Then what's the meaning of your stats?

What are you trying to prove?

Under Agha Pakistan only won against minnows?

Under Babar we lost to the USA
May be Agha should schedule a series against USA and prove you can do what babar failed to do.
 
Agha is fine for ODI but first he needs to justify his place in T20 side to remain captain. He is nto an automatic choice if you make a team that makes sense... No way
 
Agha is fine for ODI but first he needs to justify his place in T20 side to remain captain. He is nto an automatic choice if you make a team that makes sense... No way
When Shadab comes and regains form he will become the captain.

Can move Agha into ODi at that point
 
I agree with @Rana On agha being made odi captain.

He's produced good results for t20 and has established Pakistan as the No 2 Asian side in world cricket.

The criticism is that he sucks as a batter in t20 but why would that be an issue in odi?

As an odi and test batter hes solid? So you are essentially killing 2 birds with one stone by having him captain.

Those advocating for shaheen dont realise that he will die an early cricketing death. He is not fit enough to lead and play full time.

Shaheen should be VC though, 100%
My issue with Salman being ODI captain is that he's 31 now (probably more like 32/33) and next World Cup is two years away.

So keeping performance aside, I would prefer a younger captain taking the helm.
 
For what

For continuosly chewing the gum

Sorry he still not right choice for captaincy

Rizwan should continue to lead odi team till 2027 CWC
I don't get why you guys are constantly viewing things from such a narrow lens?

Agha as a t20 batsmen has been crap and criticism is 100% valid. He has been batting even slower then rizwan and should be mauled for it. Fair enough

As a captain his record is solid? He onoy lost to NZ in their own den which even top sides would struggle against?

Lost to Bangladesh in a dem where Bangladesh managed to upset aus and eng.

And lost to India?

He's beaten every other side? Rizzu's record in t20 is 0.

And rizwan is still odi captain so I don't see why you are complaining.
 
When Shadab comes and regains form he will become the captain.

Can move Agha into ODi at that point
IMHO shadab was such a brilliant talent when he emerged in 2017... 8 years on and he's not made any effort to improve his game... if anything his bowling has regressed, and he's hardly played any first class cricket during this time...
 
I don't get why you guys are constantly viewing things from such a narrow lens?

Agha as a t20 batsmen has been crap and criticism is 100% valid. He has been batting even slower then rizwan and should be mauled for it. Fair enough

As a captain his record is solid? He onoy lost to NZ in their own den which even top sides would struggle against?

Lost to Bangladesh in a dem where Bangladesh managed to upset aus and eng.

And lost to India?

He's beaten every other side? Rizzu's record in t20 is 0.

And rizwan is still odi captain so I don't see why you are complaining.
And Rizwan was T20 captain for how many matches just 6

You can't judge in small sample size anyone

So a crap batsman like Agha also leads odi team

Rizwan has so far been solid odi record in captaincy

So keep aside your hatred and support him till next year WC
 
And Rizwan was T20 captain for how many matches just 6

You can't judge in small sample size anyone

So a crap batsman like Agha also leads odi team

Rizwan has so far been solid odi record in captaincy

So keep aside your hatred and support him till next year WC
What hatred? 🤨
 
Odi captain , well his captaincy in T20 is on the line still not convinced the masses regarding him as a T20 Player
 
You and your friend who started this thread wants Rizwan removed as odi captain

Why?

Salman is not even fit to lead T20 team yet and now he should be given odi captaincy too

Ridiculous
He’s perfectly fit to lead the T20 team.

He’s won 13 of his last 17 games with Hesson as coach

He’s into the final of the Asia Cup. He’s a good leader. This is undeniable.
 
Why are Rizwan fans throwing a hissy fit?

This is likely to happen soon. Rizwan will be sacked. Agha will take over.

Relax, it’s not the end of the world.
 
May be Agha should schedule a series against USA and prove you can do what babar failed to do.
You still haven't told me what your point was?

I'm listening and waiting for a response.....

Btw, you said Sri Lanka isn't a minnow and that's true, hence why Pakistan hadn't won against Sri Lanka since 2019!!
 
13 out of 17 does that excludes games against UAE Malawi and Nepal
Kya soong ke aaya hai?

When did Pakistan play Malawi and Nepal?

Pakistan under Babar lost to USA and Ireland. Babar and Rizwan opened in those games.
 
IMHO shadab was such a brilliant talent when he emerged in 2017... 8 years on and he's not made any effort to improve his game... if anything his bowling has regressed, and he's hardly played any first class cricket during this time...
He has battled injury so we will need to see how he does but he is hessons right hand man at Islamabad
 
I don't get why you guys are constantly viewing things from such a narrow lens?

Agha as a t20 batsmen has been crap and criticism is 100% valid. He has been batting even slower then rizwan and should be mauled for it. Fair enough

As a captain his record is solid? He onoy lost to NZ in their own den which even top sides would struggle against?

Lost to Bangladesh in a dem where Bangladesh managed to upset aus and eng.

And lost to India?

He's beaten every other side? Rizzu's record in t20 is 0.

And rizwan is still odi captain so I don't see why you are complaining.
He lost the plot against India. Misread the pitch when batting and bowling. A match that could have been closer was made more difficult due to some of his decisions.

Hopefully he can learn his lessons. Overall he has been ok and players seem to like him.
 
He lost the plot against India. Misread the pitch when batting and bowling. A match that could have been closer was made more difficult due to some of his decisions.

Hopefully he can learn his lessons. Overall he has been ok and players seem to like him.
One tough call he has to make is who bowls the first over to Abhishek on strike

I don’t think it should be Shaheen.
 
You still haven't told me what your point was?

I'm listening and waiting for a response.....

Btw, you said Sri Lanka isn't a minnow and that's true, hence why Pakistan hadn't won against Sri Lanka since 2019!!
Even with adding Babar's win % is higher lol. Babar is a terrible captain. But you have to be a bit more objective. So Agha has captained against 3 big teams atleast once. Australia, NZ, India. Let us look at the record of Pakistan captains against these 3 teams. Agha has lost 7 out of 8 matches against these 3 teams. Batting strike rate of Pakistan is less against these teams under Agha than under Babar. That needs special medicority to go under Babar.

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Amazing the delusion of some fans, SR 110 and Avg 24 , they Consider the guy suitable for t20
Says the delusional fan who has been fighting tooth and nail for two guys who have a proven track record of 90-100 sr in T20 comps as openers. 🤡
 
Tbf it's a tricky situation.

As a t20 batter he's been absolutely crap.

As a captain he has produced results. Other then india who even top sides struggle immensely against especially in spin conditons such as UAE

He has utilised the bowlers extremely well to restrict oppositions to lower totals or defend lower totals. And the team morale from the bowling stand point is high.

Yes credit should be given to the bowlers but the same bowlers in the same conditons were performing terribly against even minnows under Babar and Rizwan.

So it's another Sarfaraz Situation. Do you persist with a non performing captain who is producing results? Or do you risk someone in form like Shaheen and experiment?

The major issue with Agha atm is that as soon as Pakistan starts to flop against all oppositions like sarfi eventually was then he'll be axed ASAP.
Shaheen isn't an experiment tbh.
 
Even with adding Babar's win % is higher lol. Babar is a terrible captain. But you have to be a bit more objective. So Agha has captained against 3 big teams atleast once. Australia, NZ, India. Let us look at the record of Pakistan captains against these 3 teams. Agha has lost 7 out of 8 matches against these 3 teams. Batting strike rate of Pakistan is less against these teams under Agha than under Babar. That needs special medicority to go under Babar.

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Captain can't do too much about batting SR.

His actual captaincy is better than Babar. Babar was a dud. Had no tactics or new anything about cricket, didn't know how to use bowlers properly or how best to use part timers.

Babar is a very uninspiring person.
 
Captain can't do too much about batting SR.

His actual captaincy is better than Babar. Babar was a dud. Had no tactics or new anything about cricket, didn't know how to use bowlers properly or how best to use part timers.

Babar is a very uninspiring person.
No it is the same. His bowling rotation in the 2nd game against india was full of panicky. Pak fans couldn't make head and tail of his moves. Never hype captaincy against teams like SL, BD, Afghanistan. Those teams can quiet often shoot htemselves in the foot without opponent captain doing something. Just be thankful to Shaheen Afirid who more or less singlehandedly saved Salman Agha's face in these clashes along with Abrar & Nawaz batting
 
No it is the same. His bowling rotation in the 2nd game against india was full of panicky. Pak fans couldn't make head and tail of his moves. Never hype captaincy against teams like SL, BD, Afghanistan. Those teams can quiet often shoot htemselves in the foot without opponent captain doing something. Just be thankful to Shaheen Afirid who more or less singlehandedly saved Salman Agha's face in these clashes along with Abrar & Nawaz batting
Yes agreed he was shocking against India totally lost the plot but otherwise I think he is superior to Babar. Time will tell as sample size is low.
 
Yes agreed he was shocking against India totally lost the plot but otherwise I think he is superior to Babar. Time will tell as sample size is low.
Babar is a very low bar. He has to be significantly better than him. Still even Mike brearely level captaincy cannot justify his T20 numbers.
 
Why are Rizwan fans throwing a hissy fit?

This is likely to happen soon. Rizwan will be sacked. Agha will take over.

Relax, it’s not the end of the world.
Why Rizwan has a great record as odi captain

Salman should not be odi captain right now
 
I was disappointed with Agha's decision making in the last game vs India. He introduced Faheem too late having seen in our innings how Dube's medium pace caused problems.

It's also a contradiction in how we're trying to implement this attacking template with a captain possessing a SR of 110.

That said Agha could prove a useful transitional captain for us. An experienced and calm head who gets us through the next 1-2 years, helps bed in some of these young players, change the culture etc before handing over the reins to a long-term appointee.
 
He is not the best of captains but if Pakistan win tonight, we are likely to see him as captain till the T20 World Cup 2026.
 
He deserves same treatment as Babar Azam after Pak lost to England in the final / WT20 in 2022
 
The “Agha is a good captain” nonsense propagated by 0 IQ clowns will also end in tears.

He is a nothing captain. He got bailed out vs Sri Lanka and Bangladesh due to their poor batting. Today he had India on toast on multiple occasions but couldn’t take advantage.

Can’t bat, can’t lead, can’t bowl, has poor body language and no charisma, but please make him ODI captain as well because Rana thinks so 🤣🤣🤡🤡
 
First things first, he needs to be dropped from the T20I team immediately. I've never seen a captain contribute so little, no runs, no intent, no leadership. Just there for the sake of it. It’s a joke at this point. And to make it worse, we’ve got two of our best batters sitting out while their replacements don’t even come close, not even 5% of their quality.
 
Look, we can all have difference of opinion on his batting, but captaincy wise, he does deserve some respect.

Going into this Asia Cup, this guy was dealing with a huge political pressure. Leading a group of players who arnt the best but can somehow salvage something.

Against all odds, took us to the finals. Our batting once again collapsed, but, he still managed to get his team to give a fight with a low target.

Everyone bashed him for his bowling picks, but 9/10 of his bowlers did well. The one that is taken away from him is Rauf, but every other Pakistani captain would had bowled Rauf here and this rubbish was gonna happen.

The guy had soo much media scrutiny, he had an India team acting as a jerk, a PCB that almost made his team to pull out of the tournamnet, yet against all odds, Agha jee has lead his side well i would say
 
I've heard that line several times: 'unlike Babar, when Agha has the opposition on the mat, he goes for the kill.' Well, he had India on the mat twice, and twice he let them off the hook!

First, with the batting, he completely wasted a good start because of his awful batting and pathetic batting order. Then, when India was 16/3, he let them recover. Nothing was right—not his playing XI, and certainly not his batting order.

And his captaincy in the field was a joke! The way he rotated the bowlers made no sense. He didn't bring Nawaz on when the spinners were doing well, and then to bowl Haris in the death overs after what happened in the 2022 T20 World Cup is a criminal mistake!

This experiment has failed. It needs to end. Now!!
 
Frankly, from a neutral perspective, he doesn’t deserve a place in the side. A player’s first duty is to do well in his craft. If he fails there, then other things don’t matter. Pakistan played the first despite him, not because of him.
 
-Why give Haris the ball when you had one over each of Saim and Abrar remaining and they had India on a leash and you knew they won’t be bowling the last overs.
-why give Haris the last over when you’ve seen how badly he is bowling. When you know Tilak has him figured. When you’ve seen how slower bowlers are getting it to grip and are difficult to hit.
-why did the “best spinner in the world” get only one over on a spinning track where the opposition left arm spinners thrived.
 
Made a game out of a poor first innings total

The Rauf decision in the 15th over was wrong

Otherwise, well captained.
 
Poor tactics today . Definitely not ready for ODI captaincy . Saim was bowling brilliantly. He ends up bowling him only 3 overs . Letting rauf take the game away from Pakistan . Agha has made some big mistakes this Asia cup . Spin was going well yet Nawaz bowled only 1 over . 100 percent appreciation for his fighting sprit but tactics have been poor .
 
firstly this adha teetar adha batair (and others like him) shouldn't be even in the team.

Now he did make a mistake by giving over to Rauf , but Mr. Rauf is now an experienced T20 bowler, he should have at least bowled a decent over if not take wicket.
 
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