Is it unfair to other teams that the ICC World Test Championship finals are always held in England?

[RedwoodOriginal]

However, if you truly are a fan of the game, then put aside your feelings towards India and you will come to the same conclusion that is is flawed.

You can't have a 2 year tournament where every series has more than 1 match decided on a random game in a neutral country.

Either stick to a league format only, make the final a series, or if it's one-off, give the top team the advantage because they have earned it. The ICC can assume custodianship of the pitch preparation to minimise any foul play ( from Indians).

The only way this tournament makes any sense is if you create two tiers with a relegation/promotion system. Every team plays equal amount of matches against the other. And the final should be best of 3. This way you ensure competition and competitiveness, the potential of one-sided contests is minimised and the poor performing teams actually have an incentive to get better.

Personally, I would prefer if the final is in England every year. But I guess it can be announced a year in advance.

Teams struggling to host test cricket/facing financial issues like Ireland, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe etc. should get full and unequivocal support from the ICC. Because that is the ICC's duty.

If ICC is not prepare to do all this then they need to stop paying lip-service about the future of test cricket.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Please, Stay on topic and no personal remarks for anyone.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

It was a balanced game between bat and ball. The pitch didn't start blowing up pieces of soil on day one. Neither did 550 play 490 only for one side to then get shot out for 120 in their second innings, which is something we see far too often in a certain country. Instead of crying foul maybe you should accept the fact that India were outplayed on both occasions by teams that were better than them in that test match. For a side that claims to have one of the best batting and bowling line-ups in the world...including the world's best fast-bowler, winning in a place like England should not be an issue.

So you think pitches like that are not possible in Aus, Srilanka, Nz , SouthAfrica , India or UAE?

You can only see good matches in England?

India was outplayed but that doesn’t change the fact that the venue of finals is unfair for Asian teams atleast ( unfair for everyone the day Eng qualifies).

 

[BouncerGuy]

@mominsaigol @jeeteshssaxena I hope you guys can talk about topic now because irrelevant posts will be removed again.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

So you think pitches like that are not possible in Aus, Srilanka, Nz , SouthAfrica , India or UAE?

You can only see good matches in England?

India was outplayed but that doesn’t change the fact that the venue of finals is unfair for Asian teams atleast ( unfair for everyone the day Eng qualifies).

Well yeah, England is the only place that has consistently given us balanced pitches for test matches in the last few years. And England can be beaten in a test match in England provided you're not too cowardly to do so as Sri Lanka (an Asian team) showed a couple of weeks ago.

There you go again with your fake consideration for "Asian teams"...as if Pakistan, Sri Lanka or Bangladesh will ever reach the final lol. Just go ahead and say India, like you mean.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The only way this tournament makes any sense is if you create two tiers with a relegation/promotion system. Every team plays equal amount of matches against the other. And the final should be best of 3. This way you ensure competition and competitiveness, the potential of one-sided contests is minimised and the poor performing teams actually have an incentive to get better.

Personally, I would prefer if the final is in England every year. But I guess it can be announced a year in advance.

Teams struggling to host test cricket/facing financial issues like Ireland, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe etc. should get full and unequivocal support from the ICC. Because that is the ICC's duty.

If ICC is not prepare to do all this then they need to stop paying lip-service about the future of test cricket.

I prefer test matches in England, too, as they are usually the most entertaining. But unlike other sports, there is no concept of a neutral venue in cricket because the conditions have such a factor on team composition and strategy.

So as soon as the final gets announced it already becomes more advantages to be a SENA country who generally only play one spinner than an Asian country who ( generally) rely on spin.

Your idea is a good one but nobody is interested enough in text cricket for it to happen. The only thing we can do is remove some of the flaws within the existing system.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

The WTC is very different and unique from other WC's say T20 or ODI or even Soccer or Rugby in the sense it takes place over a 2 yr cycle and not condensed in one country over 45 days or so. Moreover no game has more variations and vagaries to the weather, conditions, pitches than cricket or mainly tests.

For the sake of neutrality and to pin point the winner over diifferent conditions , my 5c worth - it should be played as a best of 3 tests over 3 types of conditions.

one in India/Pak/SL/Uae - Sc conditions probably in Feb-march
One in SAF/Aus - bouncy pace friendly conditions - probably in nov- jan
One in Eng/NZ - Swing and seam conditions - probably in june-September

This will be a true parameter of a champ team.

Imagine if 2021 and 2022 Finals of WTC was in India, We'd steam roll the combined World XI.

The above setup will challenge both teams out of their comfort zone and also in their strength zone.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Well yeah, England is the only place that has consistently given us balanced pitches for test matches in the last few years. And England can be beaten in a test match in England provided you're not too cowardly to do so as Sri Lanka (an Asian team) showed a couple of weeks ago.

There you go again with your fake consideration for "Asian teams"...as if Pakistan, Sri Lanka or Bangladesh will ever reach the final lol. Just go ahead and say India, like you mean.

Just because we can beat them doesn’t mean it is fair, lol.

Obviously they can be beaten , the problem is that they get an unfair advantage of playing in home conditions. How difficult is it to understand that?

Even India played a 2-2 draw with them last time in England.

BTW, SriLanka is doing reasonably good these days.

 

[jnaveen1980]

And SG balls are not? Indian players like Kohli and Ashwin have gone on record to question the quality of SG balls.

Atleast with Duke balls the seam doesn't get destroyed within 60 overs

No way. DUke balls get changed frequently. It has even become a joke in the commentary box. Whenever there is no wicket "change the ball". They change like every 20 overs.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't care if it doesn't happen in India. But why not other countries. Another country would be fine as well. But cannot have every single final in England. First final became a lottery due to rain. Hope one of the final gets washed out. THey will realize what a joke this one-off test match is where they spend so much money just for one Test.

 

[Varun]

So as soon as the final gets announced it already becomes more advantages to be a SENA country who generally only play one spinner than an Asian country who ( generally) rely on spin.

Please remove the E from SENA.

 

[kingusama92]

More like BCCI don't care. I am sure if they want the final in India it will happen. ICC will jump to it and make sure it does.

I do agree that the format is hanging by a thread. A very slim one at that.

Yeah the BCCI isn't too fond of the format as it is.

I have a feeling they prefer the iconic series (Australia-India or perhaps India-England) and nothing else. The WTC as a whole doesn't seem like something they would be pushing for anyway.

 

[kingusama92]

I don't care if it doesn't happen in India. But why not other countries. Another country would be fine as well. But cannot have every single final in England. First final became a lottery due to rain. Hope one of the final gets washed out. THey will realize what a joke this one-off test match is where they spend so much money just for one Test.

My guess is they want to host the first 5-7 finals in England to get the WTC up and running. Once it's in a bit of a rhythm then they will expand.

Although I have a feeling the WTC might be dead and buried before that period.

 

[gazza619]

What is even more unfair is that India got to play the final without even being tested against Pakistan

 

[JaDed]

What is even more unfair is that India got to play the final without even being tested against Pakistan

The only one Pakistan should test now USA.

 

[giri26]

I don't think it is unfair to play in England but the format of randomly scheduling one Test is stupid. In England things can go either way when both teams are playing without much practice or without getting properly acclimatised to the conditions there. Either just award the team finishing on the top of the table the mace or have a proper 3 match series to declare the winner. Test cricket cannot be decided by one off games and it normally does not show the better team of the two. For example earlier this year India beat England 4-1 but if it was just one off test, England would have won and that would not be a fair reflection of the strengths of the teams.

 

[giri26]

Before anyone brings up white ball tournament finals, it is not the same thing. In the World Cups and Champions trophy teams play in the same country for few weeks to months and then play a one-off finals which is completely different from two teams playing in different countries for 2 years and then randomly playing a one off game in a different country to decide who the winner is.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't think it is unfair to play in England but the format of randomly scheduling one Test is stupid. In England things can go either way when both teams are playing without much practice or without getting properly acclimatised to the conditions there. Either just award the team finishing on the top of the table the mace or have a proper 3 match series to declare the winner. Test cricket cannot be decided by one off games and it normally does not show the better team of the two. For example earlier this year India beat England 4-1 but if it was just one off test, England would have won and that would not be a fair reflection of the strengths of the teams.

NZ had just finished a Test series in England when India went to final right after IPL. Same way in the second final, India went right after IPL where Australians were playing county cricket till that point. Rohit has summarized it very well as India had absolutely no time to prepare as the WTC final was right after IPL

Rohit's response was almost dismissive.
"Whatever time we find after the IPL, we will try and get ready for the WTC final. Around 21st May (end of IPL league phase), there will be six teams that will be out of the play-offs. Whichever players are available, we will try and find time to get them to the UK," he had said.

However, after India's crushing 209-run loss to Australia at the Oval, the India skipper suddenly felt the need for more preparation time.
"Ideally, yes, event like this, final like this, you need a lot of time to prepare yourself and that is what we did the last time when we were here in England. We had good 25-30 days to prepare ourselves. And you saw the result. We were 2-1 up until that game (5th Test, Old Trafford) got called off," Rohit told the media on Sunday.
The reason, he 'revealingly' said, the five-day game needs more discipline.

 

[FearlessRoar]

It should be on a rotation basis, with the final being held in a different country and venue every year.

This still won't be justified because international cricket is not being played in Afghanistan.

 

[shaz619]

Yes, they should be held in India

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Yes, they should be held in India

win is still not guranteed after New Zealand's horror show lol

 

[shaz619]

win is still not guranteed after New Zealand's horror show lol

Kiwi’s are big hearted, they will allow India to name the time and place, they will be the first to arrive, you can tie both hands behind their backs as well if they want that to.

 

[Ab Fan]

World Test Championship Final should happen in Pakistan. Everyone goes to Pakistan and beat them, it will be the most fairest venue to play a WTC Final.

 

[mominsaigol]

World Test Championship Final should happen in Pakistan. Everyone goes to Pakistan and beat them, it will be the most fairest venue to play a WTC Final.

WTC should happen in SA, so Ashwin can travel

 

[BouncerGuy]

As Per Reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has rejected the Board of Control for Cricket in India’s (BCCI) request to host the World Test Championship (WTC) Final, confirming that the next three finals (2027, 2029, and 2031) will continue to be held in England.

Despite growing calls from the BCCI to rotate the final among different cricket-playing nations, the ICC remains committed to staging it in England, citing commercial benefits and logistical ease. The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has already been notified of this decision.

The decision to continue hosting in England is expected to be formalized at the ICC’s Annual Conference in Singapore next month. Preparations for the 2027 final will begin soon after the current edition concludes

 

[mominsaigol]

As Per Reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has rejected the Board of Control for Cricket in India’s (BCCI) request to host the World Test Championship (WTC) Final, confirming that the next three finals (2027, 2029, and 2031) will continue to be held in England.

Despite growing calls from the BCCI to rotate the final among different cricket-playing nations, the ICC remains committed to staging it in England, citing commercial benefits and logistical ease. The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has already been notified of this decision.

The decision to continue hosting in England is expected to be formalized at the ICC’s Annual Conference in Singapore next month. Preparations for the 2027 final will begin soon after the current edition concludes

Zindabad.

No need to host in India. Everyone plays at Lords or at SCG/MCG.

Otherwise no dice.

I would have liked wtc to be moved to MCG though

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Every WTC final should take in England.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Poor decision but understandable. The Oval is the most consistent wicket in England.

Should at least make sure all the finals are held there

 

[mominsaigol]

Poor decision but understandable. The Oval is the most consistent wicket in England.

Should at least make sure all the finals are held there

Imo they should move it to Australia. All finals in Aus

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Imo they should move it to Australia. All finals in Aus

Previous winner should host imo. But clearly ICC have other considerations.

 

[shariqnoor]

Only place where you have a house full even for neutral test matches.

 

[mominsaigol]

Previous winner should host imo. But clearly ICC have other considerations.

They should host in Pakistan

 

[Devadwal]

For Pakistan fans it doesn't matter where is WTC final held because Pakistan team is not going to reach in WTC final .

 

[Rajdeep]

As Per Reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has rejected the Board of Control for Cricket in India’s (BCCI) request to host the World Test Championship (WTC) Final, confirming that the next three finals (2027, 2029, and 2031) will continue to be held in England.

Despite growing calls from the BCCI to rotate the final among different cricket-playing nations, the ICC remains committed to staging it in England, citing commercial benefits and logistical ease. The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has already been notified of this decision.

The decision to continue hosting in England is expected to be formalized at the ICC’s Annual Conference in Singapore next month. Preparations for the 2027 final will begin soon after the current edition concludes

Very poor from ICC. I think WTC Finals should be rotated.

However, ICC is Jay Shah. So posters who are giving credit to ICC for standing upto BCCI, will they also praise mr Shah?

 

[Vikram1989]

Any sc team of an atg asian status can only compete and win against any sena team in such damp conditions. Need a good technically adept batsmen to counter such conditions and very good bowling unit to exploit it. I can think of imran's 87, kohlis 2016 only to counter and win.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

They should host in Pakistan

PAK would be very low priority. No crowds and a team unlikely to make WTC final.

 

[mominsaigol]

PAK would be very low priority. No crowds and a team unlikely to make WTC final.

Final should be held at my house with me as the umpire.

 

[zahid01]

I personally think it should be best of three tests played in different countries one in England one in south Africa or Australia and one in Asia India Sri Lanka or pakistan to test all strength and weakness who can handle various different conditions and truly deserves the title of world test champions.

 

[Justcrazy]

The only one Pakistan should test now USA.

India is no doubt a better team , but if no match is played between them , it takes sheen out of the format. It should be all play . That is how a true championship can be and should be held.

 

[RidiculousMan]

As Per Reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has rejected the Board of Control for Cricket in India’s (BCCI) request to host the World Test Championship (WTC) Final, confirming that the next three finals (2027, 2029, and 2031) will continue to be held in England.

Despite growing calls from the BCCI to rotate the final among different cricket-playing nations, the ICC remains committed to staging it in England, citing commercial benefits and logistical ease. The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has already been notified of this decision.

The decision to continue hosting in England is expected to be formalized at the ICC’s Annual Conference in Singapore next month. Preparations for the 2027 final will begin soon after the current edition concludes

Right call. India is not fit yet to host WTC Final

 

[Sachin fan]

It's not a coincidence that only SENA teams have won the WTC so far. Bitter fans of lesser teams will never admit how unfair this is.

 

[mominsaigol]

It's not a coincidence that only SENA teams have won the WTC so far. Bitter fans of lesser teams will never admit how unfair this is.

In CT 2025, no Indian, not a single one admitted how much of an unfair advantage India got for the event.

India won 2024 fair and square. But 2023 and 2025 was badly badly rigged. But not a single indian admitted it deapite it being obvious and blasted in their face.

I believe only NZ didnt really complain but NZ stays out of drama altogether.

Ask @Rajdeep @Devadwal and many others and they will deny it like the plague.

They'll say things like

1) India was the most travelled team in 2023.

Or some other excuse for ct 2025, but they'll never admit the truth, to this date no indian on this forumn has. None, Nada.

So you guys shouldn't question as to what's fair and unfair. Wtc is not being hosted in India. Its an unfair decision but the right one as Bcci would have demanded all finals be hosted in india.

And had that happened these boys who are calling it unfair would be the first to change narratives and claim its fair.

 

[RamLakhan]

I think the host for WTC Finals has to be given to either the table topper OR the winner of the previous WTC Finals... That would be fair enough.... Giving it to England only is definitely unfair...

Also England have never won it OR even made it to Finals...

 

[Rajdeep]

In CT 2025, no Indian, not a single one admitted how much of an unfair advantage India got for the event.

India won 2024 fair and square. But 2023 and 2025 was badly badly rigged. But not a single indian admitted it deapite it being obvious and blasted in their face.

I believe only NZ didnt really complain but NZ stays out of drama altogether.

Ask @Rajdeep @Devadwal and many others and they will deny it like the plague.

They'll say things like

1) India was the most travelled team in 2023.

Or some other excuse for ct 2025, but they'll never admit the truth, to this date no indian on this forumn has. None, Nada.

So you guys shouldn't question as to what's fair and unfair. Wtc is not being hosted in India. Its an unfair decision but the right one as Bcci would have demanded all finals be hosted in india.

And had that happened these boys who are calling it unfair would be the first to change narratives and claim its fair.

India didn't get any advantage in Champions trophy bro.

Yes they played all their games in one venue but if they agreed to travel Pakistan, then also they would have only played in Lahore as bookmarked by PCB. Only concern was teams had to travel with between Pak and Dubai with a flying distance less than that of of Bangalore and Delhi.

Pakistan also got to play most of its WC 2023 matches in same venues of Hyderabad and Chennai where as India travelled entire width of the country. Yet India played finals where Pakistan didn't even passed group stage. A good team always will find a way to win where as rubbish ones (and their fans) makes excuses.

True Story.

For more such true stories & #FACTS contact Rajdeep anytime.

 

[mominsaigol]

India didn't get any advantage in Champions trophy bro.

Yes they played all their games in one venue but if they agreed to travel Pakistan, then also they would have only played in Lahore as bookmarked by PCB. Only concern was teams had to travel with between Pak and Dubai with a flying distance less than that of of Bangalore and Delhi.

Pakistan also got to play most of its WC 2023 matches in same venues of Hyderabad and Chennai where as India travelled entire width of the country. Yet India played finals where Pakistan didn't even passed group stage. A good team always will find a way to win where as rubbish ones (and their fans) makes excuses.

True Story.

For more such true stories & #FACTS contact Rajdeep anytime.

Translation, they get either get an unfair advantage in pakistan or in UAE.

Pakistan also got to play most of its WC 2023 matches in same venues of Hyderabad and Chennai where as India travelled entire width of the country. Yet India played finals where Pakistan didn't even passed group stage. A good team always will find a way to win where as rubbish ones (and their fans) makes excuses.

So what you're saying is, india travelling every width of their own home den when they already do that 24/7 and have been doing so for their entire lifespan is = to one team having their entire squad tailored to one venue, one pitch, no travel required and 4+ matches to get accustomed to one conditons as compared to other teams having to travel and tailor squads for 2 conditons?

True Story.

For more such true stories & #FACTS contact Rajdeep anytime.

Even you're not confident lol. Although tbf, you're defo a 35 year oold mature individual unlike your buddy @Devadwal whos an angsty jobless teenager pretending to be Mr 2003.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I think the host for WTC Finals has to be given to either the table topper OR the winner of the previous WTC Finals... That would be fair enough.... Giving it to England only is definitely unfair...

Also England have never won it OR even made it to Finals...

The table topper would be the fairest solution but logistics may be difficult due to different weather conditions.

I think by now it's obvious that international cricket is an unbalanced and unfair game at times. It's never going to change. When the unfair stuff suits then people stay quiet.

For example when India gets awarded a disproportionate amount of ICC tournaments then I don't see many Indians complain about it being unfair. They then talk about money and revenue.

 

[Rajdeep]

Translation, they get either get an unfair advantage in pakistan or in UAE.

Pakistan also got to play most of its WC 2023 matches in same venues of Hyderabad and Chennai where as India travelled entire width of the country. Yet India played finals where Pakistan didn't even passed group stage. A good team always will find a way to win where as rubbish ones (and their fans) makes excuses.

So what you're saying is, india travelling every width of their own home den when they already do that 24/7 and have been doing so for their entire lifespan is = to one team having their entire squad tailored to one venue, one pitch, no travel required and 4+ matches to get accustomed to one conditons as compared to other teams having to travel and tailor squads for 2 conditons?

True Story.

For more such true stories & #FACTS contact Rajdeep anytime.

Even you're not confident lol. Although tbf, you're defo a 35 year oold mature individual unlike your buddy @Devadwal whos an angsty jobless teenager pretending to be Mr 2003.

Your issue with brother @Devadwal still not sorted?

You guys need to make peace bro

 

[mominsaigol]

Your issue with brother @Devadwal still not sorted?

You guys need to make peace bro

Everytime I attempt to sort it, he goes back into teenage girl mode.

He tried his level best to be normal and it lasted 30 mins only.

His only logical comment was about bavuma before he went back to be a woman on her period. He only has himself to blame.

Besides I dont see what option he has. Trolling is his only solution to remain relevant. @Hyder and @jeeteshssaxena found out the hard way of what's it like to genuinely debate me. I always win .

 

[Vikram1989]

For example when India gets awarded a disproportionate amount of ICC tournaments then I don't see many Indians complain about it being unfair. They then talk about money and revenue.

I recollect there were primarily 2 issues .one is monetary. India generates the most revenue when compared to hosting in other places.Aus 22, wi 24 t20 wcs are primary example.sydney even though having its inaugural t20 wc match wonderfully blocked entire railway line for routine maintenance . They just don't care.wi , us ran in to all kind of losses and other troubles.odi wc is dying as pointed out by all members. so it was decided one wc will be in india and other in different place to offset the monetary losses and extend the odi deathbed period.At the end revenue is distributed by icc.so its good deal financially.

 

[Ab Fan]

I think non-Indian fans( except maybe Australians) will probably be happy that the WTC Final is in England because they know that even if it is held outside of England, it is not going to be scheduled in countries outside of Australia, India and England.

It is unlikely that Pak, BD and SL are getting a WTC Final in their country and same goes for NZ too. So, they would be happy having it in England because say, Pakistan if they qualify to finals, their best bet to beat India in a WTC Final is in England only and not anywhere else. Australia and India both conditions are favourable to India.

 

[Rafale Nidhal]

So we had 2 WTC finals so far and both of them were in England. Now the next one is also scheduled to be played in Lords.

Do you think it is unfair to other teams? Should WTC finals be rotated in various countries?

it is unfair because India lost there twice. You should just say it be done with it.

 

[RamLakhan]

I think non-Indian fans( except maybe Australians) will probably be happy that the WTC Final is in England because they know that even if it is held outside of England, it is not going to be scheduled in countries outside of Australia, India and England.

It is unlikely that Pak, BD and SL are getting a WTC Final in their country and same goes for NZ too. So, they would be happy having it in England because say, Pakistan if they qualify to finals, their best bet to beat India in a WTC Final is in England only and not anywhere else. Australia and India both conditions are favourable to India.

Maybe yes, but if England qualifies to finals, it is definitely huge advantage to them! (NZ also to some extent enjoy advantage playing there).

Looking at all these I think WTC Finals played in best of 3 format is the right way to judge the victorians! Probably they can play in England, Australia & India (3 distinct style of pitches - swing, bounce & spin) other countries more or less fall in the same 3 categories (Srilanka, Bangladesh pitches are similar to India. NZ is similar to England. South Africa is similar to Australia OR perhaps an hybrid of England & Australia. West Indies is a bit of hybrid of India & Australia - perhaps a bit distinct. Pakistan is kind of hybrid between England & India. Also these 2nd tier countries don't have proper viewership for Test Cricket. So there are economic reasons as well)

But then I think this is economically not feasible & also logistic issues... They will not be able to create such a big window for test cricket (to play these 3 matches I think they will need to allot at least 1 month giving enough time for travelling & rest). Though this is the best way to judge a true test champion, I think this is not workable.

The best way to decide test champion is to simply announce the table toppers as victorious (as anyhow they have topped the table by doing well home & away) and get rid of the finals... It is properly fair and economically safe as well...

 

[shaz619]

I’d like for it to be held at Edgbaston.

Why are some of the numpties crying, you got plenty of support here, you’re just sh!t.

 

[RexRex]

India would have won the first two WTC finals easily if it were held in India.

But I am glad to see to WTC held at Lords, they easily have the best mix of crowds and atmosphere.

 

[mominsaigol]

As of 2025, Australia is the only country that has atleast one trophy in every type of icc event

Wc, Wtc, T20 wc and CT.

India lacks a wtc, NZ lacks everything other then wtc SA lacks odi and t20 wc, Pakistan lacks wtc, Bangladesh lacks everything, WI lacks wtc, England lacks CT and WTC etc etc.

Shame on Indians, letting a country that doesnt even view cricket as its no 1 sport own them.

The icing on the cake would be if Australia wins a next world cup, by inducting some Indians living in Aus into their team

 

[Rajdeep]

This is extremely unfair to have every WTC final in England whichever way you look at it. Ahmedabad stadium is biggest cricket stadium in the world with 120k capacity and deserve to host one.

 

[mominsaigol]

This is extremely unfair to have every WTC final in England whichever way you look at it. Ahmedabad stadium is biggest cricket stadium in the world with 120k capacity and deserve to host one.

Why ahmedabad and not Sydney or MCG? What's so special about a place where Indians kill their own by stamping on them just because they want to see rcb win?

I'm not trying to be morbid, and I feel for the people who got sacrificed but look at that behaviour?

This would never occur in a country like Australia, England, USA, Canada etc.

Sure deaths happen, Accidents happen, Serial killers exist etc. But this trampling occurred due to poor marketing practises and poor security control.

If you're going to offer something for free in a nation with 1B+ people, this would obviously occur. Heck this would have occurred in Aus with 26M people as well, which is why you dont offer to see your team for free.

Why on earth should a wtc be hosted when you lot are just waiting to trample on your own. Actually why am I even talking to you about it? Legally you are British .

You should be happy its hosted every 2 years in your country .

British Citizen my foot.

 

[RexRex]

This is extremely unfair to have every WTC final in England whichever way you look at it. Ahmedabad stadium is biggest cricket stadium in the world with 120k capacity and deserve to host one.

English crowds are far superior to Indian crowds, I've to admit. They just are.

Of course a lot of that has to do with the high number of commonwealth immigrants in the UK.

 

[RamLakhan]

Probably it is better to play all test matches in England (everyone's home and away matches everything in England), because it is so good (pitch, atmosphere, ambience, history, heritage, quality, etc, etc). Indians won't bother playing only in IPL in India... India/BCCI can allot a dedicated team to play tests only in England (some players can settle in England and play county cricket when they are not playing tests for India). With India not doing well at home of late (clean sweep against NZ), Indian fans may not bother playing tests in India (either it is too much dominance OR too much complacency with Indian Home tests)

 

[RamLakhan]

Why ahmedabad and not Sydney or MCG? What's so special about a place where Indians kill their own by stamping on them just because they want to see rcb win?

I'm not trying to be morbid, and I feel for the people who got sacrificed but look at that behaviour?

This would never occur in a country like Australia, England, USA, Canada etc.

Sure deaths happen, Accidents happen, Serial killers exist etc. But this trampling occurred due to poor marketing practises and poor security control.

If you're going to offer something for free in a nation with 1B+ people, this would obviously occur. Heck this would have occurred in Aus with 26M people as well, which is why you dont offer to see your team for free.

Why on earth should a wtc be hosted when you lot are just waiting to trample on your own. Actually why am I even talking to you about it? Legally you are British .

You should be happy its hosted every 2 years in your country .

British Citizen my foot.

Relax stampede won't happen for a WTC Finals in India
And I don't think anymore stampede would happen in India (for cricket at least), they have got alerted!
And it was Bangalore where stampede happened and not in Ahmedabad (here there was a plane crash that happened recently, so you might have got confused, what to be blamed for that is a different thing...)

 

[Rajdeep]

Why ahmedabad and not Sydney or MCG? What's so special about a place where Indians kill their own by stamping on them just because they want to see rcb win?

I'm not trying to be morbid, and I feel for the people who got sacrificed but look at that behaviour?

This would never occur in a country like Australia, England, USA, Canada etc.

Sure deaths happen, Accidents happen, Serial killers exist etc. But this trampling occurred due to poor marketing practises and poor security control.

If you're going to offer something for free in a nation with 1B+ people, this would obviously occur. Heck this would have occurred in Aus with 26M people as well, which is why you dont offer to see your team for free.

Why on earth should a wtc be hosted when you lot are just waiting to trample on your own. Actually why am I even talking to you about it? Legally you are British .

You should be happy its hosted every 2 years in your country .

British Citizen my foot.

Your time will also come but after Ahmedabad. Important people gets priority first.

That stampede didn't happen during the game but during fan celebration next day. It is exactly like how it happened in Paris after PSGs win in CL

Being a British Citizen and in the name of King, I propose WTC finals should be rotated between Lords and Ahmedabad every two years. The two most iconic stadiums in the world gets to host the biggest game in test cricket.

 

[mominsaigol]

Your time will also come but after Ahmedabad. Important people gets priority first.

That stampede didn't happen during the game but during fan celebration next day. It is exactly like how it happened in Paris after PSGs win in CL

Being a British Citizen and in the name of King, I propose WTC finals should be rotated between Lords and Ahmedabad every two years. The two most iconic stadiums in the world gets to host the biggest game in test cricket.

Being a British Citizen and in the name of King, I propose WTC finals should be rotated between Lords and Ahmedabad every two years. The two most iconic stadiums in the world gets to host the biggest game in test cricket.

Being an Australian Citizen + Pakistani Citizen and in the Name of Arthur Phillip + Muhammad Ali Jinnah, i declare WTC to be hosted in England with Rajdeep exclusively banned from all stadiums.

 

[mominsaigol]

Relax stampede won't happen for a WTC Finals in India
And I don't think anymore stampede would happen in India (for cricket at least), they have got alerted!
And it was Bangalore where stampede happened and not in Ahmedabad (here there was a plane crash that happened recently, so you might have got confused, what to be blamed for that is a different thing...)

Right my bad, I mixed up the 2.

Anyway @Rajdeep is a bro, and I passive aggressively joke with him, however I see no reason as to why WTC should be moved from England.

Only debate should be about England itself. If England qualifies for the finals then a neural venue needs to be selected for both sides.

But since England hasnt made it for 3 editions, I see no reason. India isnt a baby team. They have played a freqent amount of test cricket in England, heck their playing a 5 match series their .

It is not an excuse.

 

[Hyder]

Atm england is most suitable and the only country where tests are played so gracefully.

Everytime I attempt to sort it, he goes back into teenage girl mode.

He tried his level best to be normal and it lasted 30 mins only.

His only logical comment was about bavuma before he went back to be a woman on her period. He only has himself to blame.

Besides I dont see what option he has. Trolling is his only solution to remain relevant. @Hyder and @jeeteshssaxena found out the hard way of what's it like to genuinely debate me. I always win .

No i just found out that you are cheerleader for rana and you crave for his occasional pats on the back for which u try very hard.

Besides tameez and lehaz and language is smth that shouldnt be compromised on and i have seen you guys going below the level.of educated person many times so i just think of u as "the wall" aka no brain. No logic. Just bla bla.

 

[Hyder]

Keep it in England for now.
And then we ll need to devise a way to allocate the finals.

1. Maybe the top of the table team gets home conditions

2. Last winner gets to host

3. Stadium with most attendance during wtc cycle gets to host

4. Rotate it between test playing nations

 

[mominsaigol]

Atm england is most suitable and the only country where tests are played so gracefully.
No i just found out that you are cheerleader for rana and you crave for his occasional pats on the back for which u try very hard.

Besides tameez and lehaz and language is smth that shouldnt be compromised on and i have seen you guys going below the level.of educated person many times so i just think of u as "the wall" aka no brain. No logic. Just bla bla.

Besides tameez and lehaz and language is smth that shouldnt be compromised on and i have seen you guys going below the level.of educated person many times so i just think of u as "the wall" aka no brain. No logic. Just bla bla.

I am one of the most respectful, calm and chill people on the planet. And a future PHD holder. .

Atm england is most suitable and the only country where tests are played so gracefully.

Agreed, but Aus and NZ are good venues for hosting wtc as well. Issue is their too far and time zones aren't suitable. The goal os hosting around the globe.

England happens to be one of the few countries that suits everyone timezone wise. If you revist 2015 PP threads back when wc was taking place in Australia, some Pakistani and Indian posters were waking up at 3am to 3:30am to watch games.

England is the perfect balance timezone wise.

 

[Shaka81]

Logistically England is the only place where the final can take place.

If it's in India, then there will be very low engagement if India aren't in the final. No one will travel to India for a test cricket final.

Similar issues will exist for South Africa and any of the other Asian countries.

Australia and New Zealand are too far away generally but at least with Australia you'll likely get more of a crowd but the timezones will be all messed up for most TV audiences in the northern hemisphere.

 

[Hyder]

Besides tameez and lehaz and language is smth that shouldnt be compromised on and i have seen you guys going below the level.of educated person many times so i just think of u as "the wall" aka no brain. No logic. Just bla bla.

I am one of the most respectful, calm and chill people on the planet. And a future PHD holder. .

Atm england is most suitable and the only country where tests are played so gracefully.

Agreed, but Aus and NZ are good venues for hosting wtc as well. Issue is their too far and time zones aren't suitable. The goal os hosting around the globe.

England happens to be one of the few countries that suits everyone timezone wise. If you revist 2015 PP threads back when wc was taking place in Australia, some Pakistani and Indian posters were waking up at 3am to 3:30am to watch games.

England is the perfect balance timezone wise.

There is nothing known as future phd holder but good luck with that. I wish u didnt have to tell people your education to look like a graduated man but its never too late dear.

Aus time zones are very bad. It doesn't even fall during the day time so you can take work off it is at sucha time that you have to mess up your sleep to watch it.

Nz is too alien of a condition. Eng pitches support good spin bowling too.

 

[Vikram1989]

Aus time zones are very bad. It doesn't even fall during the day time so you can take work off it is at sucha time that you have to mess up your sleep to watch it.

Nz is too alien of a condition. Eng pitches support good spin bowling too.

Here in aus and nz, its winter now. So playing wtc finals in June is not possible unless they are held between oct to Feb. It will mess up a lots of teams home season .

 

[mominsaigol]

There is nothing known as future phd holder but good luck with that. I wish u didnt have to tell people your education to look like a graduated man but its never too late dear.

Aus time zones are very bad. It doesn't even fall during the day time so you can take work off it is at sucha time that you have to mess up your sleep to watch it.

Nz is too alien of a condition. Eng pitches support good spin bowling too.

Aus and NZ timezones are similar, depending in region its 2 hrs i believe. Atleast from Sydney. Idk the timezone difference related to South Australia, Perth etc etc. Their time zones are equally poor.

NZ isnt really an alien conditon. Its very similar to England.

There is nothing known as future phd holder but good luck with that. I wish u didnt have to tell people your education to look like a graduated man but its never too late dear.

I have worked in 3 countries, Graduated from 2(UK and Au), got 2 passports(Pakistan and Au). What's wrong with setting goals of getting a phd from another country(Haven't decided which one to apply for yet), working in a 4th country, and acquiring 3 passports by 2035-2037? (AU, PAK, and a 3rd one, will see which one)

Is their anything wrong with it? You tell me? Can I not be a Passport, Work experience and Degree Gold Digger? Mana hai kya?

 

[Hyder]

Aus and NZ timezones are similar, depending in region its 2 hrs i believe. Atleast from Sydney. Idk the timezone difference related to South Australia, Perth etc etc. Their time zones are equally poor.

NZ isnt really an alien conditon. Its very similar to England.

There is nothing known as future phd holder but good luck with that. I wish u didnt have to tell people your education to look like a graduated man but its never too late dear.

I have worked in 3 countries, Graduated from 2(UK and Au), got 2 passports(Pakistan and Au). What's wrong with setting goals of getting a phd from another country(Haven't decided which one to apply for yet), working in a 4th country, and acquiring 3 passports by 2035-2037? (AU, PAK, and a 3rd one, will see which one)

Is their anything wrong with it? You tell me? Can I not be a Passport, Work experience and Degree Gold Digger? Mana hai kya?

You can be anything you want, maybe a bit respectable too. But goodluck with your journey and all the future endeavours.

As and nz times dont suit us in pakistan. But nevertheless if a match is held there we ll be up early to watch it.

 

[mominsaigol]

You can be anything you want, maybe a bit respectable too. But goodluck with your journey and all the future endeavours.

As and nz times dont suit us in pakistan. But nevertheless if a match is held there we ll be up early to watch it.

Fair enough, we will engage in competitive but not heated conversation from now on.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I recollect there were primarily 2 issues .one is monetary. India generates the most revenue when compared to hosting in other places.Aus 22, wi 24 t20 wcs are primary example.sydney even though having its inaugural t20 wc match wonderfully blocked entire railway line for routine maintenance . They just don't care.wi , us ran in to all kind of losses and other troubles.odi wc is dying as pointed out by all members. so it was decided one wc will be in india and other in different place to offset the monetary losses and extend the odi deathbed period.At the end revenue is distributed by icc.so its good deal financially.

You will be able to find similar excuses for WTC final too as you are making for India hosting multiple world cups. Cricket is too commercialised to become a genuinley fair game, sometimes it suits India, sometimes it suits SENA countries.

 

[Vikram1989]

You will be able to find similar excuses for WTC final too as you are making for India hosting multiple world cups. Cricket is too commercialised to become a genuinley fair game, sometimes it suits India, sometimes it suits SENA countries.

Everything's commercial now.pcb may have gone bankrupt if they have hosted ct for another 10 days more with zero crowd. Unfortunately for test matches, eng is an superior option while India is for limited formats. icc is playing like a dumb cop in a super hero movie by simply waiting for the hero everytime to rescue. They are not even pulling up the socks for some change.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Everything's commercial now.pcb may have gone bankrupt if they have hosted ct for another 10 days more with zero crowd. Unfortunately for test matches, eng is an superior option while India is for limited formats. icc is playing like a dumb cop in a super hero movie by simply waiting for the hero everytime to rescue. They are not even pulling up the socks for some change.

Very true. Rather than growing the game they rely on trying to keep milking the same cow. They don't have any plans for when the milk will run out.

 

[Mamoon]

Well done ICC for showing spine for once. Beautiful shut up call to India.

This was expected after India got humiliated in back to back WTC Finals.