Is Jayant Yadav a better player of spin than most Aus/NZ/SA batsmen?

[Statsman]

Negotiating spinners with ease on an Indian pitch. Even coming out of crease to hit some good shots over mid on and some good cover drives when Rashid started bowling on a negative line.

He is not even a front line batsman.

 

[JaDed]

Found him to lucky yesterday,has been good today so the answer is no.

 

[Midwinter13992]

Definately better than most of their batsmans...Look at his footwork, his drives,his patience...surely one of better players of spin in the team for now

 

[Stark]

What an OTT thread

 

[Buffet]

He hasn't played on any rank turners and facing the likes of Rashid and Ali. Anyway, a very compact batsman and no way a number 9 batsman.

 

[Midwinter13992]

Surely Better than Ponting

 

[Sidilicious]

Nope. Defintiely not better than Williamson, Smith, Amla and ABD. Even Latham, Santner impressed me and they might me slightly better. The thing to remember is that Santner and Latham played against Ashwin, Mishra and Jadeja. He is batting against Moeen and Rashid (they havent bowled as bad [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] is saying, but they are no in the same league for Ashwin, Yasir and Herath)

 

[MMHS]

Negotiating spinners with ease on an Indian pitch. Even coming out of crease to hit some good shots over mid on and some good cover drives when Rashid started bowling on a negative line.

He is not even a front line batsman.

Most Asian regular batsman will bat well against this spin trio (Root has 2/30 out of 5797 !!!!) on this wicket; but his spin play is compact & copy book - he'll be a gun Test player on rank turners.

 

[MMHS]

Nope. Defintiely not better than Williamson, Smith, Amla and ABD. Even Latham, Santner impressed me and they might me slightly better. The thing to remember is that Santner and Latham played against Ashwin, Mishra and Jadeja. He is batting against Moeen and Rashid (they havent bowled as bad [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] is saying, but they are no in the same league for Ashwin, Yasir and Herath)

You are fooled by looking at the turn of Rashid's bowling - that'll work against non Asian players, many of whom gets nervous watching big turns (none more than Warner - he just goes crazy). But, unless you strangle batsmen with tight line & suffocate for a release shot, big turn won't work against better Asian batsmen.

I am yet to see Rashid taking a proper wicket against top order with classical leggi in 1st innings of a Test - his Abu Dhai or Rajkot figures are more of score board pressure in a dying match, when batsmen might have taken him easy.

You have to search my post on Adil Rashid & Shivaramakrishnan for better explanation - Shiva was similar like Adil with much better control, but couldn't keep his place for more than 2 years. Adil is playing in an era when most teams are weak against spin (even Indians - compared to the 1-7 of 15-20 years past) & the modern game demands quick scoring. Moeen is a steady offies, who has very little to do against 2 set right-handers unless he has foot-mark to work with; because he doesn't have much drift, drop in air & he doesn't turn much. ENG is missing a SLAO spinner for sure against a barrage of very good right handers against spin.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Let's not forget that these are relatively easier pitches to bat on, and Jayant is not facing Ashwin or Jadeja, who excel in home conditions.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

No.

 

[honeybadger]

I'm sure Moeen "moon ball" Ali and Adil "long hop" Rashid are a nightmare to face.

 

[Justcrazy]

Ashwin , jayant and jadeja make a very potent trio .

 

[HateKiller]

It is too early to conclude. Let him face better spinners. Maybe Herath , Shah or Bangla spinners on turning pitches.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

No way

Like most Indian lower order batsmen Jayant can't tell a flipper to a leg spinner
Adil and moeen just aren't good enough I'm afraid

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Only Indians can start off about a player who is 2 games old midway through a series and start comparing his game with entire non asian teams. Brilliant!

 

[JattMaula]

Better than Rahane at least.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

The problem here is, this isn't evidence at all.

The main difficulty here is the batsmen are facing different sets of bowlers.

I'd LOVE to see how much India would get if they were facing the Indian bowling.

 

[Buffet]

The problem here is, this isn't evidence at all.

The main difficulty here is the batsmen are facing different sets of bowlers.

I'd LOVE to see how much India would get if they were facing the Indian bowling.

Given how many times India was in trouble, I will say Indians will get out cheaply many times if they were facing Indian bowlers in India. Eng spinners don't have patience to keep bowling tight or I should say skills to do so. Hit me balls were coming if you wait long enogh.

 

[troodon]

Jayant is a solid batsman. He is not a No.9 batsman. He should bat above Ashwin.

I have seen him bat against both pacers and spinners and he looked very comfortable facing both.

Discounting his efforts by saying that he got lucky yesterday with a dropped catch is not fair on him. Even Kohli got lucky. Almost every batsman needs a little break to score a 100. Very few innings will be flawless.

To me, he is a solid player. Much better than Rohit in defense. May not possess the destructive ability of Rohit. But its Test cricket. Who cares.

 

[transitional]

Better than likes of Guptill, Duckett, Van zyl

He didnt have to face Ashwin