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Is Khurram Manzoor good enough for Test cricket?

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Looks like there are too many loopholes in his technique and looks like a regular lbw and 'edge one to slip' candidate. He probably should get few more chances but for me he definitely does not belong to test cricket at all.
 
No he's not...Doesn't have the technique the temperament for test cricket..
 
Got a fluke ton vs SA, but he's a deer in the headlights against any swing bowler, drop him, bring Azhar up to open and slot Akmal at 6.

Another thing to note is Manzoor's horrid fielding, costs runs and I think he also dropped a slip catch too.
 
Has the ability to graft it out at times, but his technic sadly will be taken apart by decent fast bowlers who can swing the ball.
 
Giving you better results than the other opener Ahmed Shehzad. Drop Ahmed Shehzad if you want to drop any opener.
 
Needs to stop dancing on the pitch !

Somebody tell him it's cricket and not jhalak dikhla ja !

Not fit for any format let alone test !
 
Give him one more test if he fails again then play Shan against the Aussies.
 
aukhan said:
Give him one more test if he fails again then play Shan against the Aussies.
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he's already got enough chances 2nd test we should play shan as an opener or Azhar as an opener and umar akmal in middle order
 
Lol if Bullet Drive thinks he is terrible, than I see no hope for him.
 
Nasir Jamshed to me is still a better option in tests then mazoor or shan masood, he just needs to regain form. Manzoor just looks like a walking wicket at the moment.
 
Manzoor has very poor balance and falls on his front foot. He will be a good player if he could sort it out, but for the moment he remains very susceptible outside the off stump.
 
Scored some runs against opposition but he is suspect. Either move him down order or reshuffle the pack.

Azhar ali to open add in another batsmen take a pick from Fawad, Umar or Harris. The first two would add better fielding to our 11. But Harris has got superb batting figures and leftie too.

Shahzad has youth on his side I'm happy to give a guy who has score international 100's in ODI, Test and T20s a longer stint than Khurram.

Azhar Ali and Shahzad might bore a lot of bowlers to sleep but id happily have that over 4-2 and Younis to bail us out again.
 
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Would be a sight to watch Manzoor and Shehzad opening the batting at Old Trafford under overcast condition. :)) how embarrassing would that be. Who would last longer I wonder?
 
Shehzad is so overrated on this forum. He's the Junaid of batting.
 
At 4. I believe he can be a good middle order bat in ODIs and Tests but if it comes down to that, I'd prefer Hafeez any day because of his allround qualities. :uakmal
 
Amjid Javed said:
Nasir Jamshed to me is still a better option in tests then mazoor or shan masood, he just needs to regain form. Manzoor just looks like a walking wicket at the moment.
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Yes, but he needs to get runs . If he does not , others also deserve a chance.

He needs to regain form in shorter format first.
 
Mamoon said:
At 4. I believe he can be a good middle order bat in ODIs and Tests but if it comes down to that, I'd prefer Hafeez any day because of his allround qualities. :uakmal
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One of the two :afridi or :hafeez can play in the lower order slot , playing both is not right idea.
 
The whole batting line up will become a lot stronger if you take out Manzoor and push Azhar to open, then put Umar at 6 and pushing Asad at 5. Or you could have this: Swap Manzoor for Masood and swap Asad for Umar which would lead to an extra left-handed batsman in the XI. However I prefer the 1st option if you ask me.
 
His basic flaws are the flaws of nearly all Pakistani players. Most of our players are average at best and in testing conditions they are like fish out of water.
 
srh said:
Giving you better results than the other opener Ahmed Shehzad. Drop Ahmed Shehzad if you want to drop any opener.
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just checked the stats and realize Ahmed Shehzad is performing better than Khurram Manzoor in Tests. So I was wrong. If one opener needs to be dropped, then its Khurram Manzoor.
 
Khurram is not international class - the deficiencies in his technique which were highlighted by the Kiwi commentators during the series in 2009 are still very much there.

Hafeez, since his come back in 2010, would have been a far better option - Khurram is so bad that even if Hafeez scored 20'3 or 30's opening the innings (and he's capable of doing better) his fielding and bowling, especially on turners, makes him a far bigger asset then Khurram.
 
Unless he is given a decent run, these threads should not be created. He has only played a handful of matches since his comeback. There is also another innings left in this test. He might score a ton and then OP will feel stupid. But then again probably won't happen. :afridi
 
ExplicitAI said:
The whole batting line up will become a lot stronger if you take out Manzoor and push Azhar to open, then put Umar at 6 and pushing Asad at 5. Or you could have this: Swap Manzoor for Masood and swap Asad for Umar which would lead to an extra left-handed batsman in the XI. However I prefer the 1st option if you ask me.
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If you had Hafeez opening instead of Khurram, then you automatically have two spinners and can play another fast bowler or an allrounder instead of Rehman.

Umar is talented and needs to force himself into the side, but having Hafeez (or another top allrounder in his place) brings balance to the side and that 5th bowling option which is lacking in this team
 
He seems horrible to watch and his performances aren't impressive either.Please get rid of him and give chance to some deserving guys like Shan Masud or Fawad.
 
with that technique hes never going to succeed and his performances are proving that

I dont understand why azhar isnt playing at top with shezad

Hes practically opening every game anyway
 
I hope he doesn't make runs in 2nd innings so that we can try Shan who deserve a chance. Khurram already had enough chances.
 
Sunny786 said:
Unless he is given a decent run, these threads should not be created. He has only played a handful of matches since his comeback. There is also another innings left in this test. He might score a ton and then OP will feel stupid. But then again probably won't happen. :afridi
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Thats why in the op you read that he should get a few more chances. But the question is still there.. is he test class with glaring defficiencies in his technique.
 
And please no talk of bringing hafeez back. Against moving ball he is worse than manzoor. In test cricket you need specialist batsmen.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Thats why in the op you read that he should get a few more chances. But the question is still there.. is he test class with glaring defficiencies in his technique.
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IMO he did look better than before technically in his short stint at the crease. Maybe the batting coach magic has started and he will become better.
 
Sunny786 said:
IMO he did look better than before technically in his short stint at the crease. Maybe the batting coach magic has started and he will become better.
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Falling over is one big no for any test batsman and especially for an opener. You lose sight of the ball and forget where your off stump is.
 
JibranAnsari said:
And please no talk of bringing hafeez back. Against moving ball he is worse than manzoor. In test cricket you need specialist batsmen.
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Perhaps it is time to move from Hafeez in Tests and his average since 2010 is a lowly 34 with bat, although Steyn probably played a large part in this...

However if his bowling average in this period has been 28 which is actually extremely good and if you were to take horses for courses then you have to take into his account his performances against sri lanka where he averages 48 with the bat.

Moving away from Hafeez, I really do think that Manzoor is not international material and someone else should get the opportunity.
 
I say Shan Masood should replace him. He always gets out in similar fashion. I don't know when he will stop dancing around and play with some confidence.
 
IMMY69 said:
Perhaps it is time to move from Hafeez in Tests and his average since 2010 is a lowly 34 with bat, although Steyn probably played a large part in this...

However if his bowling average in this period has been 28 which is actually extremely good and if you were to take horses for courses then you have to take into his account his performances against sri lanka where he averages 48 with the bat.

Moving away from Hafeez, I really do think that Manzoor is not international material and someone else should get the opportunity.
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Yes that 196 really helped the average to 48.
But you really can not play hafeez in the test team. Get your bowling stronger.
 
No, shoddy technique.
But he is the wave of Karachi players that Moin Khan is ushering in. Has the perfect stance for gulli danda.
 
fawad_wellwisher said:
Nonsense. He was in the team before the Moin Khan era began.
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Moin khan was manager when Pakistan toured Zimbabwe, against whom this joke of an opener was recalled to fill his boots with easy runs. ... Now why would you type tripe without checking.
 
mosh101 said:
I disagree ! What wrong did Shan Masood do to get dropped and now not to get a game? Oh yes, because Shehzad is kohli-in-the-making !
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Shan has a dismal domestic record and was not picked in the squad on merit at first place. Averages 34 in domestic after 63 games , he is not international class yet.
Shehzad already has a ton in test cricket and his first class record merits his place.
 
mosh101 said:
I disagree ! What wrong did Shan Masood do to get dropped and now not to get a game? Oh yes, because Shehzad is kohli-in-the-making !
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Nothing wrong but you also don't drop someone who is coming on the back of a 147 in his last test.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Shan is another mediocre batsman.. he is even a failure at domestic level.
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he played only two matches...how can u judge with just 2 matches... he score a fifty in his debut... he has a solid technique when he bats...
 
Replace him with Shan Masood and let Azhar open. Move "Shehzad wooden hands" down the order.
 
mosh101 said:
It's funny how nobody is talking of shehzad !
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Because this is not a Thread about Shehzad. Shehzad has performed and Scored Centuries in Limited over circket ODI s and T20. I know Khurram only plays tests, which makes Khurram the weaker Candidate.
BTW Shehzad Averages 45.50 in tests. Before this test and Khurram only 31 which is too low for a test opener. Shehzad could be next in line but Khurram Has to be the weakest link of the two.
 
Got a ton vs SA just a few Tests ago. A score of 140-odd against the best bowling line-up is no fluke, in any conditions. Also remembering Pakistan getting out under 200 on a couple of occasions in the past, and Manzoor being the top-scorer on the occassions, most recently the Test vs Sri Lanka in the UAE.

Though I agree his technique is awful, I'm fine as long he's getting the runs. Let's give him at least until the end of the Australia series before dropping him. No use in chopping/changing so fast.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Shan has a dismal domestic record and was not picked in the squad on merit at first place. Averages 34 in domestic after 63 games , he is not international class yet.
Shehzad already has a ton in test cricket and his first class record merits his place.
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I'm not saying shaan is a world beater ! All i'm saying is that he was dropped without a valid reason !
 
cricketAXEpert said:
Because this is not a Thread about Shehzad. Shehzad has performed and Scored Centuries in Limited over circket ODI s and T20. I know Khurram only plays tests, which makes Khurram the weaker Candidate.
BTW Shehzad Averages 45.50 in tests. Before this test and Khurram only 31 which is too low for a test opener. Shehzad could be next in line but Khurram Has to be the weakest link of the two.
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khurram is absolutely rubbish and there's no arguing with that !

But shehzad is pretty awful at this format too ! Should just stick to ODI's !
 
Pete Rose said:
Moin khan was manager when Pakistan toured Zimbabwe, against whom this joke of an opener was recalled to fill his boots with easy runs. ... Now why would you type tripe without checking.
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Regardless. Saying that regional bias was the reason behind his selection is a pretty serious allegation. Unless you have any proof I will go with the reasoning that Khurram was recalled based on his FC performance and replaced Jamshed and Farhat who clearly were not performing. There are no good openers in Pakistan right now and that is a fact.
 
Not good for other formats, so had to be played in Tests. Seemed to have worked on his technique, but still making those errors.
 
Still remember Chishti Mujahid saying about Khurram's stance "You could ride a bicycle between his legs."
 
Pete Rose said:
Moin khan was manager when Pakistan toured Zimbabwe, against whom this joke of an opener was recalled to fill his boots with easy runs. ... Now why would you type tripe without checking.
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Yeah, Khurram wasn't even scoring runs in every season to get selected. It's not Moin who got him in the team. It was his performances of past 2 seasons.
 
I dont get how u can score a 140 vs Steyn and co yet be so rubbish after?

Hate watching him bat.

Bring in someone new. We have so many options.
 
Too suspect on the off-stump, no balance hence the falling over on to the off side and can't get on to his front foot (though I appreciate his grafting abilities) a "opener" with that technique is not cut out for test cricket /period!

Though saying that I would like to see him given this series, maybe Grant Flower might just work something out for him.

Yes I'm heavily in favour of Azhar Ali opening it would give us more flexibility nd allow us to add another dimension to our "defensive" line up.
 
fawad_wellwisher said:
Regardless. Saying that regional bias was the reason behind his selection is a pretty serious allegation. Unless you have any proof I will go with the reasoning that Khurram was recalled based on his FC performance and replaced Jamshed and Farhat who clearly were not performing. There are no good openers in Pakistan right now and that is a fact.
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It's not regardless, you seemed pretty sure and wrong. I stand by the regional bias comment and I don't find it as reprehensible as some do, but at least select someone who does not discredit you. There is a reason why he never got a look-in after that series against Australia. He has a truly awful technique and despite his mountain of runs he was kept out of the test team because of that embarrassing stance. In comes moin the boss from Karachi and we see Khurrum Manzoor getting in to the squad. Pakistani selectors never learn - if it looks crap it is crap. Hafeez was bound to be an embarrassment against SA and now we have this clown who will cost us a few matches as well.
 
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sunnykhan said:
Yeah, Khurram wasn't even scoring runs in every season to get selected. It's not Moin who got him in the team. It was his performances of past 2 seasons.
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Indeed and it took moin khans arrival for Khurrum Manzoor to get in the squad. I can't decide who is uglier to watch him or Fawad.
 
Pete Rose said:
It's not regardless, you seemed pretty sure and wrong. I stand by the regional bias comment and I don't find it as reprehensible as some do, but at least select someone who does not discredit you. There is a reason why he never got a look-in after that series against Australia. He has a truly awful technique and despite his mountain of runs he was kept out of the test team because of that embarrassing stance. In comes moin the boss from Karachi and we see Khurrum Manzoor getting in to the squad. Pakistani selectors never learn - if it looks crap it is crap. Hafeez was bound to be an embarrassment against SA and now we have this clown who will cost us a few matches as well.
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We can never be sure about Moin but you have made it pretty clear where you stand!

In peace.
 
mosh101 said:
I'm not saying shaan is a world beater ! All i'm saying is that he was dropped without a valid reason !
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He is still in the squad and whereas guys like afaq raheem hasnt been given any chances. Shan masood has connections and thats why he is in the squad.. at least farhat had stats to back him up.. shan has nothing at all.
 
Shan Massod is another average player. We need Azhar to open and Akmal at 3 in the next test.
 
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