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Is Khurram Manzoor good enough for Test cricket?

Should still play 2nd test. The guy has scored a 100 against Steyn & co after all and thus deserve a longer rope.
 
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He's had a long enough rope and we world wide know that he is as useful as a chocolate teapot.

So ashamed to see him play for PAKISTAN.

Either bring in Umar Akmal next game and push Azhar to open.
 
Terrible technique. Can't play pace, can't play spin.

Watch how many times he falls over playing pace and is LBW. Seen it so many times.
 
Pretty poor again. Time is running out for him, I'm quite disappointed in him because I believe he would have worked on his weaknesses during the off-season.

Masood should get a game at the SSC.
 
he's a type of batsmen who like to feel bat on to ball, and go for his shots.

has 20 fc centuries in domestic cricket, + a 100 vs south africa so is in the team on merit.

just needs to be given a fair chance to establish himself at this level and be more consistent , but would be unfair to be kicked out of team because of one test match so far.
 
We cant afford him. He threw it away and i dont care if you scored against steyn, inconsistency is very bad especially when the team needs you.
 
He has excellent conviction in his shots, but his weaknesses are apparent and far too big.
 
DrSchultz said:
Bring back Shan Masood.
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If you want to replace him with Masood then its better to continue play him. Masood is another average tuk tuk cricketer. Azhar should move up and umar in at 3 or 6 for the next test.
 
carbon11 said:
he's a type of batsmen who like to feel bat on to ball, and go for his shots.

has 20 fc centuries in domestic cricket, + a 100 vs south africa so is in the team on merit.

just needs to be given a fair chance to establish himself at this level and be more consistent , but would be unfair to be kicked out of team because of one test match so far.
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He has played 8 test matches since jan1 2013 and average 28 .. Its not one test match we are talking about.
 
JibranAnsari said:
He has played 8 test matches since jan1 2013 and average 28 .. Its not one test match we are talking about.
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yeh i know but that is after a comeback

by that logic england should get rid of sam robson because apart from one knock , nothing of note

get rid of moeen ali as well then

and also get rid of cook since ashes been averaging under 25 and hasn't scored a century for over a year.

if we persisted with farhat for a decade and hafeez for a good 2.5 yrs then i think manzoor can be persisted for another 2 series's new zealand and australia.
 
Cook's is world class. You can't compare his rut to Manzoor's who hasn't done anything in his career yet.
 
he is terrible... called it long ago

falls in teh same hyped batch of umar amin.... these aren't the guys who are going to succeed on the international level.... umar amin, manzoor, wahab raiz, etc... take the trash out

ahmed shehzad is average himself.. he is better than the others but still not on a comparable level when it comes to the young talent emerging from other countries
 
He is a hack and i don't know why he is playing for pakistan , i won't select him even for my street cricket team

Shan masood is even worst
 
Umar akmal should be in the side if they dont want to promote azhar ali as an opener then bring umar as opener

a guy with 47 avg doesnt deserve to warm the bench and i dont know why shan masood is in the squad when he have just an avg of 32 in FC ? why not haris or fawad ?

:facepalm: hopefully its the end of khuram manzoor
 
carbon11 said:
yeh i know but that is after a comeback

by that logic england should get rid of sam robson because apart from one knock , nothing of note

get rid of moeen ali as well then

and also get rid of cook since ashes been averaging under 25 and hasn't scored a century for over a year.

if we persisted with farhat for a decade and hafeez for a good 2.5 yrs then i think manzoor can be persisted for another 2 series's new zealand and australia.
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You know how many centuries cook has scored before he started failing?

And you want pcb to make the same mistakes they did with hafeez and farhat.?

The thing is manzoor has the same flaws in his game and nothing has improved. May be a match or two more... he does not look like international material at all.
 
JibranAnsari said:
He has played 8 test matches since jan1 2013 and average 28 .. Its not one test match we are talking about.
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I completely agree with your sentiments about him having a very poor technique and ripe for the one coming back in and trapping LBW. However lots of people manage to play with unorthodox techniques. I would like him dropped asap as i fear he is not one of them but now that he is selected he deserves to have a decent run before being dropped. perhaps another match??
 
Manzoor never looked good to me, he is a bit luckyto be selected because Pakistan do not have too many good openers.

Umer Akmal and Fawad Alam deserve their chance, if I remember correctly Fawad got a huge hundred on debut opening the innings, either he can open or Azhar Ali can and Fawad can bat middle order.
 
The talent level of openers in Pakistan domestic is pretty low. Khurram Manzoor has the best stats of all of them so you can see how bad the situation is regarding openers. On the other hand there is abundance of talented middle order players in Pakistan domestic. I say management should convert one of the middle order batsman to an opener ala Saeed Anwar.
 
Azhar Ali is the man to open with shehzad. With yk 1 down, misbah 2 down, then shafiq, umar akmal and sarfraz
 
Taufeeq umar is much better opener. Shehzad needs to prove himself tomorrow if he wants to survive Test cricket.
 
If azhar can open then we can bring in Akmal to strengthen the batting line up !
 
replacing him with Shan Masood would be a downgrade and I am terribly disappointed with the recall threads for Taufeeq and Hafeez. Oh people, move on phuleeez !

Such a short tour without any warm up game, he deserves another go in the 2nd test. Umar Akmal has already achieved a lot and proved a point actually, by being in the squad. Dont worry, his time will come :)
 
There can't be a good opener when we don't have good new ball bowlers, but we have good middle order players because we have good spinners and fast bowlers who can reverse (many a times as a result of ball tempering in domestic games though ).

Khurram might get a decent score again, but the fault-lines are too apparent for any opposition to exploit.
 
Why not Azhar to open and Umar Akmal at 1 down which is his natural position.
Khurram has a poor technique which is not even good to play in Asia against an international side. Only good for domestic cricket.
 
He's just holding the opening spot, until we find a good opener, however i wouldn't pick him for the next test, would use Azhar as an Opener and bring Umar Akmal into the side.
 
I would give a chance to Shan Masood because he got the chance against World Class bowling attack
 
Interesting to see if he gets another test after an ordinary effort. A dropped catch didn't help his cause either.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
And an even more solid relative, might explain his selection
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good that u ppl judge with just two matches... this is why the opening slot is still not settled after saeed anwar....u ppl never allow players to settle unless they are fan loving akmals or afridis.... u will chop and change after every 2 games then u should play a new playing 11 evry 3rd game... if shan had his chances of half what farhat has then i agree that he is a mediocre batsmen..

he is young and can develop more as a batsman...he scored a fifity against the no.1 ranked SA bowling attack in his debut... some batsman cannot be succesfful at the int'l arena though they make heaps of runs in domestic (eg.farhat)... so dont judge with his record in domestic...
 
one of the worst batsman ever to play for pakistan along with the likes of masood , afridi , malik
 
JibranAnsari said:
He is still in the squad and whereas guys like afaq raheem hasnt been given any chances. Shan masood has connections and thats why he is in the squad.. at least farhat had stats to back him up.. shan has nothing at all.
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Farhat would score decent 40-50 more often than remembered.
 
iafzal said:
Why not Azhar to open and Umar Akmal at 1 down which is his natural position.
Khurram has a poor technique which is not even good to play in Asia against an international side. Only good for domestic cricket.
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Does Umar Akmal play at one down in domestic?
 
I think it is time to say goodbye to him, He is just good enough to score at home or Dubai.
He cannot bat if bowling is decent and pitch is doing a tad.

Only place I saw him score on a difficult situation was in Aus when he scored 77 but that was an awful innings technically and he almost got out 3-4 times. Still remember how surprised the commies were that he was able to score runs with such poor technique.
 
tauseef_mahmood said:
Does Umar Akmal play at one down in domestic?
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From horses mouth recently

PakPassion.net : There’s a continuing debate surrounding which position you should bat in. What do you feel is your best batting position across the three formats?

Umar Akmal : In domestic cricket I have always performed best at number three. If you look at my career record you will see that for SNGPL I’ve made most of my runs in the one-down position. This season I dropped to number four for SNGPL as we signed Azhar Ali who is an excellent number three batsman. I was asked to bat at number four and I agreed with the team management, as Azhar Ali is an international number three and it would benefit not only SNGPL, but also Pakistan if he batted at number three in domestic cricket.
 
Not only he has poor technique but also is way too irresponsible!!


Don't think selectors will persist with him.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Not only he has poor technique but also is way too irresponsible!!


Don't think selectors will persist with him.
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If they have an iota of brain they should not because there is not hope and much better prospects available.
But I will not be surprised if he gets selected against Aus because last time he played in Sharjah he scored some runs and that is how they will justify his selections sadly.
 
Khurram Manzoor scored his 35th First-Class Century today, he now has the 2nd most FC centuries for an active Pakistani batter.

Most FC centuries by an active Pakistani cricketer:

Fawad Alam: 43 centuries
Khurram Manzoor: 35 centuries
Umar Amin: 33 centuries
Abid Ali: 29 centuries
Shan Masood: 28 centuries

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Cricket Warrior said:
Khurram Manzoor scored his 35th First-Class Century today, he now has the 2nd most FC centuries for an active Pakistani batter.

Most FC centuries by an active Pakistani cricketer:

Fawad Alam: 43 centuries
Khurram Manzoor: 35 centuries
Umar Amin: 33 centuries
Abid Ali: 29 centuries
Shan Masood: 28 centuries

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Who cares?

Ragre khaate jao

Runs banate jao

Nobody cares. All that matters is who you know, who you are connected with, who has enough power to tell everyone that you are what Pakistan needs.
 
Wow lol! All 5 never got the chances. Curse to be a domestic performer in this county
 
Didn't actually know about this guy until Wasay mentioned him in one of his recent livestreams. Seems like he should have got more chances.
 
And we have Abdullah type over-hyped guys and Shan-like players in the team who cannot score anything.
 
Khurram manzoor 2nd or 3rd comeback to international was good he had more intent to score than his initial days where he looked like Akash Chopra.
 
gazza619 said:
Are you serious? Or did you just wake up?
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I understand that, for many here, “giving players a chance” translates to only about three games, and from your posts, it seems you lean toward that impatient view. However, these players weren’t given the consistent opportunities they deserved in formats that suited their strengths. When developing talent, the key is to identify players’ formats and give them extended runs in those areas when they are in form and their peak. Unfortunately, this approach wasn’t applied here.

Shan Masood, for example, had an impressive List A record that warranted a solid run in ODIs. With a list A average of 52, he’s played just 9 ODIs that too spread over years. Fawad Alam and Umar Amin deserved extended opportunities in Test cricket during their prime years. Fawad Alam was dropped shortly after scoring a century on debut and then forgotten until the end of his career: Khurram Manzoor showed promise in List A but hardly got consistent opportunities to open for Pakistan in ODIs, and Abid Ali, who was brought in late, quickly proved his worth before a health issue sidelined him, leading to him being overlooked again.
 
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