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Is Moeen Ali the most successful British Asian cricketer ever?

Mo' doesn't really have impeccable stats however, the impact he has on the game is tremendous and that does make him a serious candidate. However, Monty was a great contributer to a series win in India and away tours, especially ones being played in Asian conditions are what really count.

If Ali can win a Test match in India and Pakistan (UAE), he will surely be confirmed as the greatest British Asian cricketer.
 
Easily the greatest British Asian cricketer in history, Nasser is mixed race but if we count him in then it would be between him and Mo.

In recent times we've had these guys:
Saj Mahmood
Monty
Rashid
Ajmal Shahzad

I'd say if England had the option they'd pick Mo ahead of all these names given his versatility across all forms of the game.

Monty is probably the only other candidate I'd consider world class besides Nasser but as it stands Mo is no.1 for me out of the lot.
 
The biggest challenge for Mo will be to play 100 Tests for England, if he can manage that feat he may end his career as an England great
 
shaz619 said:
The biggest challenge for Mo will be to play 100 Tests for England, if he can manage that feat he may end his career as an England great
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Good call. His bowling is improving all the time and with England not having many great spinners, Moeen will be a strong condentor to keep his spot with his bowling alone. I still find it a bit of a shame he comes in so low down the order as I truly believe Moeen is capable of scoring big hundreds, double hundreds for England.

Easily the best British Asian
 
KingKhanWC said:
Good call. His bowling is improving all the time and with England not having many great spinners, Moeen will be a strong condentor to keep his spot with his bowling alone. I still find it a bit of a shame he comes in so low down the order as I truly believe Moeen is capable of scoring big hundreds, double hundreds for England.

Easily the best British Asian
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I believe that to but at the moment there is so much depth in the England line up that am fine with his current position because he has been scoring a lot of runs there, he won't score as many hundreds but will definitely play impact knocks and continue to win Tests for his country there. Mo ties Joe Root with the most MOM's for England in recent times out of the current lot in the same period
 
ExpressPacer said:
Haseeb Hameed has potential.
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He's been struggling recently playing balls he'd normally leave outside off stump and had issues with lateral movement but in the last couple of games has finally found a bit of form after a shocking slump (also not helped by the early season weather when it can also be very tough to bat). If I was the selector I'd not be in a hurry to get him in (young lad can get better with more experience on the county circuit) but he'd defo be on my radar, there is certainly potential there.
 
Moen Ali is not 100% Asian. His Grand Mother is a White British Lady.

So Asians cannot claim him completely.
 
Nasser Hussain for me. A fine captain who won in Pakistan and SL, and beat WI in England for the first time in decades.
 
shaz619 said:
I believe that to but at the moment there is so much depth in the England line up that am fine with his current position because he has been scoring a lot of runs there, he won't score as many hundreds but will definitely play impact knocks and continue to win Tests for his country there. Mo ties Joe Root with the most MOM's for England in recent times out of the current lot in the same period
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Yes it goes him a licence to play freely which is why we have some dominating knocks from Mo. Just one up to 7 would be better though but Bairstow has been in good form.
 
Bairstow at 5, Moeen at 7, give Buttler the gloves.
 
troodon said:
Moen Ali is not 100% Asian. His Grand Mother is a White British Lady.

So Asians cannot claim him completely.
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Lol yes we can, or at least Pakistanis can cause we have a patrilineal culture which means anybody that has a Pakistani father or grandfather is fully Pakistani in accordance to our traditions, similarly white people follow the one drop rule so yes Moeen Ali is British Pakistani, no less than Riz Ahmed, Amir Khan, or Sajid Mahmood.
 
would say Nasser is probably still the number one due to becoming England captain.

Also one drop rule counts in western countries. So a mixed race black or asian guy will count as being a minority.
 
troodon said:
Nasser is not 100% Indian. His Mom is British White.
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msb314 said:
Nasser Hussain is not a "true" british asian in the sense that his mother was british.
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I think more importantly than that culturally Nasser doesn't seem to have anything to do with the desi community at all. And for me that's more important than color of your skin or how many Asian grandparents you had

Wit guys like Moeen, Bopara, Rashid you can tell of their Asian background through their activities, get up etc. Nasser to me comes across as 100% British. Same with Usman Khwaja
 
Some years back Monty, Owais Shah, Vikram Solanki and Ravi Bopara all looked like the real deal. I thought at the time that Owais and Monty would cement a place in the English side for the next ten years. For one reason or the other their careers have come to a complete standstill. I don't even know if Owais is even playing anymore. At the moment it has to be Moeen for sure unless we go back to pre independence days when so many Indian's played for England!!:maqsood Lol at those saying Moeen has a white granny, ever heard of the six degree's of separation theory. Have a DNA test and you'll be surprised by the results and your background.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Yes it goes him a licence to play freely which is why we have some dominating knocks from Mo. Just one up to 7 would be better though but Bairstow has been in good form.
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I agree no.7 would be most ideal, that's his best position as it stands and other then no.4 it's the only other position where he averages 50+.

Alamgir Sheriyar was another terrific cricketer from Brum but he never got the opportunity to play for England unfortunately, ended his career with over 500 FC wickets and averaged under 30; was on their radar during the U19 level I believe but he got injured and they never gave him another look again
 
Without no doubt Mo is the best British Asian player, because Nasser Hussain's mother has a British passport.
 
PakLFC said:
Some years back Monty, Owais Shah, Vikram Solanki and Ravi Bopara all looked like the real deal. I thought at the time that Owais and Monty would cement a place in the English side for the next ten years. For one reason or the other their careers have come to a complete standstill. I don't even know if Owais is even playing anymore. At the moment it has to be Moeen for sure unless we go back to pre independence days when so many Indian's played for England!!:maqsood Lol at those saying Moeen has a white granny, ever heard of the six degree's of separation theory. Have a DNA test and you'll be surprised by the results and your background.
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Exactly. My grandmother is Persian while my grandfather was Turkish. So, I'm not a Pakistani going by that logic.
 
If he "counts" in this thread, it is easily Nasser, otherwise it is Moeen.

Nasser masterminded not one but two away victories in the subcontinent. Not many England captains have even won a single series in the subcontinent. Will take a lot to beat that.

Moeen is a class act though, no doubt.
 
Moeen Ali easily, if Nasser is excluded; which he should given that Nasser had almost zero impact on the British Asian community in his playing days, unlike Ali.

Moeen is not only a superior player to Indian-origin Asian players like Panesar and Bopara, but he's also much more integrates in the English team and when one thinks of the English Cricket Team these days, Moeen Ali is one of the first names to come to mind which is significant. He's also loved by all Englishmen (barring a few Indian/Hindu expats) and is a role-model for any young kid.
 
Wonder how he would have done against India?
 
Douglas Jardine for me.

Born in Bombay.

Averaged 48.

Led the Bodyline Ashes victory.

I’d actually rank him as the second most important Asian cricketer in history, after only Imran Khan.
 
And my other one would be Colin Cowdrey.

He was born at the Ooty Hill Station near Madras.

You can’t possibly put Moeen Ali above Colin Cowdrey!
 
During his time ranjitsinhji was 10 times more popular than any other British asian ever. People came just to watch him. Moeen ali won't ever be able to achieve such fame.
Read about him before coming to conclusion.
 
Sources say that Moeen Ali will not join KKR for the remainder of the IPL while official confirmation is still awaited.
 
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He started his international career very late. Otherwise, he could've achieved much more.

I think he is the most successful British Asian cricketer ever. Not just England but SENA also.
 
PakLFC said:
Some years back Monty, Owais Shah, Vikram Solanki and Ravi Bopara all looked like the real deal. I thought at the time that Owais and Monty would cement a place in the English side for the next ten years. For one reason or the other their careers have come to a complete standstill. I don't even know if Owais is even playing anymore. At the moment it has to be Moeen for sure unless we go back to pre independence days when so many Indian's played for England!!:maqsood Lol at those saying Moeen has a white granny, ever heard of the six degree's of separation theory. Have a DNA test and you'll be surprised by the results and your background.
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Panesar was a good bowler , England should have persisted with him.
Even in OD in 26 OD he has 24 wickets with economy rate 4.49 , not bad as a contain bowler.
 
Moeen Ali, one of England’s finest all-rounders, has been elected to Honorary Life Membership of the Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC).

Having made his Test debut in 2014, he played 68 Tests, 138 ODIs, and 92 T20Is, amassing 6,678 runs and taking 366 wickets across all formats. Moeen won the Ashes twice, lifted both the 50-over and T20 World Cups, and holds the record for England’s fastest T20I fifty.

He also secured a spot on Lord’s Honours Boards with a memorable 10-wicket haul against South Africa in 2017.
 
Ball Blazer said:
Sources say that Moeen Ali will not join KKR for the remainder of the IPL while official confirmation is still awaited.
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He is useless, should have been not selected in The auction. Doesn't matter he will come or not. :kp
 
Talking about his own anxious response to the escalation between India and Pakistan, Moeen Ali said on the podcast:

“My parents were actually in Kashmir at the time… in Pakistan, only about an hour away from where the strikes happened probably. Maybe a bit farther. So it was a bit crazy and then they managed to get the only flights out actually on that day. I was glad they got out, but it was crazy.”

“It was mad, obviously there were those attacks in Kashmir before everything really kicked off. Then within no time things just rapidly escalated and all of a sudden we’re in the middle. It felt like we’re in the middle of a war, but obviously we didn’t hear anything (like missiles striking). All of a sudden you’re just scrambling to get out of the country and just to make sure obviously your family’s fine. People are worried about you back home and just to make sure they’re at ease as well.”

“People weren’t quite sure what was happening and how things were like. I spoke to a lot of the guys. Some of the guys were like ‘there won’t be a war, everything will be fine. These things have happened before’. Some guys were like, ‘I think there’ll be a war, I think there’ll be some sort of retaliation or whatever you want to call it’. There’s so much lying going on, that it’s hard to believe people — the news outlets in particular and the journalists. You don’t know exactly what’s going on, so that’s the scary bit because you don’t know what’s exactly going on, you don’t know where to stand, you don’t know if things are going to kick off quickly. The thing that we were worried about is flights getting cancelled and we can’t get out. But it must be so hard for the local players or the guys who are Pakistani or Indians stuck in there not knowing what’s going to happen.”
 
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