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Is Mohammad Amir getting his old form back?

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Title says it all.

I mean if he can get his old form of 2010 back, it would be a blessing for Pakistan.

Early days but he is currently the highest wicket taker of the WC...

Looks like he has done a lots of soul searching.
 
He is also cranking it up as we saw today.

Touched the 145 kph again.
 
"old form of 2010" thats almost a decade ago.

You can't call it "old", it's "antic", "extinct" and a "mythos" now. Best we can hope for is a decent performance with wickets to his name.
 
He's not.

He swing the very first delivery of his very first over but nothing else.

His pace was better than before, to an extent but that doesnt say much. He may have cranked the odd ball above 140, but he still operated under 135 for the majority of his innings with a lot of his balls being in the 120's.

I was also pretty disappointed but not surprised to see him bowl no yorkers threw out the innings.

Therefore, no, the old Amir is not back. He is not being as bad as he was recently but the old Amir of 2010, or even 2015, or even 2017 is not, certainly not back.

And yet, he is our best bowler. I stand by that. Surely.
 
Too early to say anything.
His ball trajectory graphic didnt show any consistent seam movement coming back into the RHB and whilst he did bowl a few balls at 88 mph and one at 90mph, his average speed was still down.
Still, that the most fiesty ive seen hom in quite some time...
 
His confidence levels arent up there at all.. Bowling at the death, with edges flying by and sarfraz constantly shouting at him, he looked a mess... For a lot of people anger and frustration is a natural way of exhibiting anxiety and thats what he looked like then.. Haggard and out of sorts
 
Hes getting there. The deeper PAK goes hopefully he will hit top gear. Say what you want he brings it most often
Getting Butler was the moment of the day.

Champion is Amir.
Just listen to the people. If they chant they chant Amir Amir. He is something different.
 
He'll never reach the heights of pre-ban Amir but he has shown why he is our best and most clutch pacer by far.
 
Massive slap on the faces of people who were against his selection and wanted serial noballer Usman Shinwari in his place or toddlers Shaheen or Hasnain to start ahead of him.
 
Best bowler of Pakistan by a country mile.

Egg on the faces of those who ran a hate campaign against our premier bowler. Nowhere to be seen since yesterday.

As I've been saying, Amir even at his 50% is the BEST Pakistan has. There's nobody better than even a half working Amir!

Of course he doesn't have the 145kph pace of the past but still so SO far ahead of the rest of the trash like Shinwari.
 
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Hawkeye said:
Best bowler of Pakistan by a country mile.

Egg on the faces of those who ran a hate campaign against our premier bowler. Nowhere to be seen since yesterday.

As I've been saying, Amir even at his 50% is the BEST Pakistan has. There's nobody better than even a half working Amir!

Of course he doesn't have the 145kph pace of the past but still so SO far ahead of the rest of the trash like Shinwari.
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Bit early for that isn’t it
Does seem to have got his mojo back
Maybe not being the most senior bowler around has helped him a little
 
He swung one ball. But saw his pitch map. It was spot on every single ball unless he wanted to change the length. He just relied on the angle and with cutters as variations. He mixed them up nicely. Even the Butler wicket was off of a slower one. He is not going to send stumps cart wheeling and have an aeroplane celebration. But he will get the job done one way or the other. Either by containing or giving crucial breakthrough.
 
Forget that Amir - that was a long time ago. The new Amir bowls to contain - and to that I say more power to him! I'm starting to embrace what the new Amir brings to the team. Even when others are being tonked around he somehow manages to keep his economy rate under control. Once the bowler at the other end helps build pressure he ends up with wickets as well. He doesn't really have any swing movement going for him but he will vary his length just a tad bit to test batsmen that do take him on and hit him for a boundary.

His death bowling today was a treat to watch!
 
His consistency in the first 10 was excellent even if he didn't take a wicket. Showed why he is a better bowler than Shaheen who was to inconsistent in the previous ODI series.
 
Wahab was brilliant today...
Credit ...where credit is due.
 
Well he certainly looked quite better than the whole 2018.
He was definitely our most reliable and best bowler today. Beat the edge more than anyone else, and seemed to be pretty confident in himself. He was even beating the edge of Buttler in the last 15 overs.
A confident Amir is always better than the Amir who wants rest.
To expect him to go back to pre ban level might be a fantasy now. But if he can get his swing back and some pace, he would become a totally different pacer. But that all is too premature.

Let's hope he keeps his form and helps win us more and more matches in this WC.
 
Aamir didn’t have exaggerated swing from 2010.. but that’s because we are comparing it to a dukes ball in test matches in a particularly damp summer bowling alongside a true metronome who hardly bowled a bad ball.

Amir today was consistent and swung it both ways at pace had lovely variations and bowled his heart out. Let’s just appreciate what he brings to the table today and forget about the past
 
He got 5 wickets in 14 matches since CT and 5 wickets already in 2 WC matches , he is a big match player.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Well he certainly looked quite better than the whole 2018.
He was definitely our most reliable and best bowler today. Beat the edge more than anyone else, and seemed to be pretty confident in himself. He was even beating the edge of Buttler in the last 15 overs.
A confident Amir is always better than the Amir who wants rest.
To expect him to go back to pre ban level might be a fantasy now. But if he can get his swing back and some pace, he would become a totally different pacer. But that all is too premature.

Let's hope he keeps his form and helps win us more and more matches in this WC.
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He will never be a pre ban amir
Pitches changed ,batting techniques changed ,2 balls no reverse swing , No one is swinging the ball
Si Forget it
 
Man those three balls to Buttler.

World class batsman facing up to a world class pace bowler. Crunch situation. Amir was the only one who was going to get him out tbh, and it had to happen then. The guts to bowl that angled slower off-cutter, with Buttler in ferocious form. He's a special cricketer, just not focused enough at most times. His second last over is testament to this fact.
 
Mujtaba2900 said:
He will never be a pre ban amir
Pitches changed ,batting techniques changed ,2 balls no reverse swing , No one is swinging the ball
Si Forget it
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I know he won't, but Boult and Starc are still swinging it.
His loss of pace is sad though. Can still remember him cranking up to 154 in Australian Tests in 2009-10
 
The old Amir released pure energy from his fingers, not a cricket ball. He had that fearlessness & belief of youth when you don't even know what doubt is.

You won't see that again. Or so I thought. Until from nowhere it appeared vs Kohli & co in the CT final.

But you have a quality bowler there with a big match temperament. He's building into this tournament. And somewhere in that shoulder, wrist & fingertips- if the heart is still there- lies that magic- still waiting for the moment.
 
Would’ve been great if Babar caught Root. Would have done his confidence a whole lot but needs to keep delivering such performances to think he’s find his old mojo back
 
Over Amir bowled to Root, where Babar dropped the catch showed his class!!

First he bowled excellent bouncer, they draw inside edge followed by outside edge, that too to their best batsman...

88% of his bowl were in good to back of length area in power play, they could not hit him. Others will feed from him.

Today everybody bowled well, more importantly they played as team, and help each other rather than personal milestone. Let’s hope this continue!!
 
yasir said:
Over Amir bowled to Root, where Babar dropped the catch showed his class!!

First he bowled excellent bouncer, they draw inside edge followed by outside edge, that too to their best batsman...

88% of his bowl were in good to back of length area in power play, they could not hit him. Others will feed from him.

Today everybody bowled well, more importantly they played as team, and help each other rather than personal milestone. Let’s hope this continue!!
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I noticed that. Reminded me of how he lifted for Kohli. He's got the x-factor. You can't expect it every single time but with him in the team, even quality batsmen need to be at their absolute peak.
 
Okay, is it just me or did you guys also see how his first delivery of match swung drastically but there was zilch after that?

To me, that just says that there's a minor adjustment that he needs to make to get his swing back! He of course can still make it happen but he's just doing something wrong.

How can the management see that and not try to find what the issue is?

If Amir can swing it like that, he'll be a whole different beast!
 
I really hope Amir is back to his best soon. Pakistan needs it and the world game is much the better for it.
 
Early days but he’s the leading wicket taker in the tournament idk why y’all talking crap zip it
 
Snowflake said:
Okay, is it just me or did you guys also see how his first delivery of match swung drastically but there was zilch after that?

To me, that just says that there's a minor adjustment that he needs to make to get his swing back! He of course can still make it happen but he's just doing something wrong.

How can the management see that and not try to find what the issue is?

If Amir can swing it like that, he'll be a whole different beast!
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Don’t worry come crunch games or come rohit infront of him hell do it again
 
Don't worry folks, old Amir will be back against India. He will run through that line-up! :amir

Against England his performance was pretty good, and not like other bowlers from both sides were swinging much.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Man those three balls to Buttler.

World class batsman facing up to a world class pace bowler. Crunch situation. Amir was the only one who was going to get him out tbh, and it had to happen then. The guts to bowl that angled slower off-cutter, with Buttler in ferocious form. He's a special cricketer, just not focused enough at most times. His second last over is testament to this fact.
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Good analysis, bang on the money here.

What you'll notice about Amir compared to not only the rest of the Pakistan team, but also most players in world cricket, is his ability to keep calm under pressure and when the stakes are high. His track record in ICC Comps speaks for itself.
 
Hasan, Wahab, Afridi all on their day can go for plenty. However, Amir, who may not be the most prolific wicket taker, is always fairly economical
 
Really wish Root was out early and Azam held on. Amir deserved that wicket and would have been satisfying getting him out that early.
 
Amir is a big match player. The matches that matter bring out the best in him which is why he should be in the team over a Hasnain or Shaheen. There is no international bowler who does not have an off day. I don't mind Wahab being a bit expensive if he takes wickets.
 
He is by far the best bowler in Pakistan squad, and that is it. He was hardly ever a gun bowler in ODI cricket and even in his younger age was good with the red ball. White Ball bowling is a difficult task these days, and I don't think he is Wasim or Mc Grath.
 
Hawkeye said:
Best bowler of Pakistan by a country mile.

Egg on the faces of those who ran a hate campaign against our premier bowler. Nowhere to be seen since yesterday.

As I've been saying, Amir even at his 50% is the BEST Pakistan has. There's nobody better than even a half working Amir!

Of course he doesn't have the 145kph pace of the past but still so SO far ahead of the rest of the trash like Shinwari.
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I think Mohammad Asif would do better than current out of form amir
 
Putting things into perspective, it was only a couple of wickets for nearly 70 runs. It was a good performance but nothing to be doing bhangra about. Too many PPers trying to cling onto something that’s not there.
 
Snowflake said:
Are you saying he's intentionally not swinging it? If only we had a more competent bowling coach!
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Yes because he’s that type of a person he only performs when their is too much pressure on him or he knows he has to do well to stay in the team
 
These stats would have been much better if that catch had been taken. Fast bowling is all about momentum. IMO he could have ended 55/4 with man of the match award, if babar didnt make that mistake. Anyway still best after 6 matches where around 70 bowlers been used and only 85 wickets fall.
 
Usman Chadda said:
He's a special cricketer, just not focused enough at most times. His second last over is testament to this fact.
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I really dont think its a commitment issue.. It has to do with his confidence. His spell at the end of the match was telling enough. He still bowled well but he was nervy and ragged. Sarfraz doesnt help the cause by continuously shouting at him everytime he makes an error..
The frustration, the body language, everything points to a man who is very low on confidence.

The pre ban Amir had nothing to lose. He was a teenager who no one knew and he loved that freedom i think.. The freedom to bowl as fast as he could and regularly try for that inswinger despite knowing he could get it wrong and leak runs on thw onside... The fearlessness to attempt yorkers not scared of bowling a full toss instead.

The comeback version had a huge reputation to live upto. And a tarnished image to rub clean. Whats very important also is that there hasnt been a senior pacer around to guide him or get strength from.. Thats one fact that doesnt get attention i feel. Pre ban, he was partnerimg Asif, an absolute master of the craft. Just having someone like that to bowl with would make a youngster feel more confident.
 
No. But every now and then he stops bowling like Vaas and that results in pronounced swing
 
Azhar Ali also dropped Kohli in the CT final. These drop catches & lazy/stupid/non-focussed casual standing in field like they are at someone's walima, will eventually cost us the title. It cost us the world cup in 2015, if anyone remembers against India.
 
Yes yes.

He is getting there.

What a champ, beautiful bowling.
 
Mueez said:
Title says it all.

I mean if he can get his old form of 2010 back, it would be a blessing for Pakistan.

Early days but he is currently the highest wicket taker of the WC...

Looks like he has done a lots of soul searching.
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Legendary performance :O Hasan and Shaheen should be embarrassed
 
Well, Amir is not going to get any younger. He will continue to do well if he stops playing meaningless bilaterals altogether and plays only the important matches..
 
Never lost his form. Just raising his game when the stakes are high.
 
It is just a one-off performance I think, means he has sealed his spot for the next WC, lol. We should judge him after the WC.
 
Well, nothing spectacular about his spell except that he stuck to the basics and bowled wicket to wicket. The wickets in the last overs were slog wickets with Aussies trying to hit anything and everything. He did proove that despite his shortcomings he is still the best Pakistan has to offer

I am sure the vultures will be out for Amir as soon as he falters
 
Gets Amla out on the first ball of his over.

Getting his banana swing.

What a champ!
 
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Early strikes like this will be the real indicator he is getting back. Bowling very, very well today.
 
Economy of 3.5 in the first 10 overs is almost impossible to achieve in modern day cricket, well done Amir.

Though i still think hes bowling too safe. He needs to float more balls up there at the risk of getting driven
 
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