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Is Mustafizur Rahman more talented than Mohammad Amir was?

Indian_Supporter said:
Both are young left hand seamers but different in bowling styles. Amir was more quicker where as Mustazifur relies on impeccable line and length, deceptive change of pace.
Mustazifur had a fantastic start to his career. 5fer on debut, 6fer on next game, troubled SA in ODIs and now almost an hatrick in debut test. With an impressive avg of 12 in ODIs, he is one bowler to watch out for. And at this stage in terms of stats he is way ahead than Amir. Please note I know the sample size is small, so I am not going much into stats.
But in terms of sheer talent, do you think Mustafizur Rehman is simply more skillful and talented than Amir??

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Nope but hes far better than Zaheer khan , RP singh and Irfan Pathan.
 
Man Of Steel said:
What a silly thread by a Bangali, they just can't keep themselves away from the limelight and make themselves look like fools in the process.

Why would you want to compare a newbie in international cricket to Amir who was far far ahead interms of ability, discipline and sheer talent when it came to bowling. He swung the ball both ways at 145+ kph, who is capable of doing that today? It'll be premature to start comparing him with Rehman who is still finding his feet at international level and his main arsenal for taking wickets are the off cutters, sooner or later batsmen will figure him out and he won't be effective. As someone pointed out he at best can be compared with B.Kumar of 2011-2012 who had both pace and incredible swing at 130-135 Kph plus the slow cutters but with time he has regressed and lost his venom, same will be the case with Muztafizur. But then again Bangalis have the reputation of jumping the gun and making their players look like world beaters because of their minnow mentality and immaturity. They haven't seen or tasted success consistently over longer periods of time until recently and hence the OTT threads, it'll take time for them to evolve and get on par with the rest cricket playing nations.
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Let me get you some facts right

1) This thread was started by an Indian

2) Its not exactly our fans who are hyping him so much. Yes there will be hype but no one is claiming him to be an ATG or whatever. And the praise he is getting is not just from Bangladesh but others who have watched him bowl. Go to Mustafizur's page on this forum and you will see praises from Indians who actually saw him bowl rather than some internet warriors who saw some highlights or followed the score from CI.

3) Bhuv was a swing bowler, Mustafizur doesn't swing just yet but bowls at a lethal line and length. Mustafizur also bowls considerably faster than Bhuv Kumar. You need to watch a match to understand what is his real weapon is. He bowls at a good line and length, now that is a skill that does not regress with time. Maybe his cutters will be less effective with time but he will have other variations in his sleeve - just 19

4) We don't jump the gun like some of you claim. Yes we do hype our players, maybe not all of us but some of us do - and that makes us minnow mentality? You can ask a neutral about what they think about the numerous threads on this forum where the likes if Umar amin, Akmal were so much hyped in the pasts, Haris Sohail, Maqsood, Rahat, Babar Azam all get signficant amount of hype - some will be justified some will not be justified. There even is a case where razzak said Shehzad is more talented than Tendulkar. I have seen Indian fans hype their players too. But isn't that what fans will do? Why single out Bangladesh just because we are underdogs? Minnow mentality? We are still minnows despite performing so well in recent times, no need to even argue with that.

5) Its most justifiable that he will be compared to Amir. FGS OP compared him to Amir, not Wasim akram, Lillee, Hadlee, Waqar. He was compard to someone who was a freak talent at the age of 19 - so if anything fans will compare him with Amir. And Amir was not the best bowler in the world, not even close even at that time. He averaged 29 in tests, whilst Dale Steyn and Pakistan's very own Mohammad Asif had a better average.
 
eradicator said:
For all the hype surrounding Amir , he had a very average record in Test matches inspite of bowling outside the SC in the most bowling friendly conditions.

Now if he turns out to be a flop bowler after his return , his fanboys would blame his absence from Competitive Cricket for 5 years as the reason behind his decline.
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you keep on praying that amir flops when he returns, such is your hate ... you hate pak so much that you'd start comparing his to wasim akram aswell.
 
Man Of Steel said:
He is definitely a Bangali disguising him as an Indian otherwise he wouldn't have taken the time to open this silly thread.
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if i correctly remember some of the other BD player related threads were open by Indians who were most definitely Indians?

And on the indian cricket forum there is already a similar thread
 
Executioner said:
Let me get you some facts right

1) This thread was started by an Indian

2) Its not exactly our fans who are hyping him so much. Yes there will be hype but no one is claiming him to be an ATG or whatever. And the praise he is getting is not just from Bangladesh but others who have watched him bowl. Go to Mustafizur's page on this forum and you will see praises from Indians who actually saw him bowl rather than some internet warriors who saw some highlights or followed the score from CI.

3) Bhuv was a swing bowler, Mustafizur doesn't swing just yet but bowls at a lethal line and length. Mustafizur also bowls considerably faster than Bhuv Kumar. You need to watch a match to understand what is his real weapon is. He bowls at a good line and length, now that is a skill that does not regress with time. Maybe his cutters will be less effective with time but he will have other variations in his sleeve - just 19

4) We don't jump the gun like some of you claim. Yes we do hype our players, maybe not all of us but some of us do - and that makes us minnow mentality? You can ask a neutral about what they think about the numerous threads on this forum where the likes if Umar amin, Akmal were so much hyped in the pasts, Haris Sohail, Maqsood, Rahat, Babar Azam all get signficant amount of hype - some will be justified some will not be justified. There even is a case where razzak said Shehzad is more talented than Tendulkar. I have seen Indian fans hype their players too. But isn't that what fans will do? Why single out Bangladesh just because we are underdogs? Minnow mentality? We are still minnows despite performing so well in recent times, no need to even argue with that.

5) Its most justifiable that he will be compared to Amir. FGS OP compared him to Amir, not Wasim akram, Lillee, Hadlee, Waqar. He was compard to someone who was a freak talent at the age of 19 - so if anything fans will compare him with Amir. And Amir was not the best bowler in the world, not even close even at that time. He averaged 29 in tests, whilst Dale Steyn and Pakistan's very own Mohammad Asif had a better average.
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hmm well what are you waiting for , just say it that mustazifur is better :)
 
No where near as talented as Amir.

Not even the likes of Starc or Boult are as talented as Amir was.
 
Amir was a very good bowler when in form. I know Pakistan produces many fast bowlers and sometimes it is hard to follow them all and many of them disappear only couple of matches. But I know many non-Pak fans who would watch Amir's bowling because it was thrilling and had some vintage Wasim Akram characteristics.

Mustafiz will stumble more because we don't have the guidance as any Pakistan pacers would have. A young Pak pacer can look up to Waqar, Aaqib Javed, Wasim and be mentored by them. The only experienced pacer Mustafiz can look up to is Mashrafi Mortaza.

I know Wasim Akram was in Dhaka for some reason and young Taskin Ahmed tried hard to arrange a short session with him. It was nothing but general tips and ideas and yet he was desperate to get some advice from Wasim. So it shows how big of a guidance gap there is between these two places.
 
This thread is a minefield haha created for someone like Dios to troll and thrive!

I will just say I can't wait for Amir to get back and get some games under his belt to acclimate and then we'll see! Should be fun to watch regardless.
 
It doesn't do Mustazisfur any favours comparing him to Aamir. It won't make him any better or Aamir any worse. Let each bowlers performances do the talking for them.
 
aslaisnomasla said:
hmm well what are you waiting for , just say it that mustazifur is better :)
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How can i say Mustafiz is better when he has played for only a few months whilst the other party has been in Jail for a while and only recently started to play professional cricket again.

forget who is currently expected to give a better spell, i can't even say who is more talented as the sample size is limted
 
Thread closed.

No point in keeping this thread open.

Amir is more talented than Wasim AKRAM AND Michael Holding combined. Just wait and see when he returns. Don't embarrass a future ATG by comparing him with a skinny nobody.
 
wrong `un said:
Thread closed.

No point in keeping this thread open.

Amir is more talented than Wasim AKRAM AND Michael Holding combined. Just wait and see when he returns. Don't embarrass a future ATG by comparing him with a skinny nobody.
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the skinny nobody who were deemed unplayable to two of the top batting sides on wickets that didn't have much for the quicks.
 
Mustazifar is special talent and as a Pakistani we always admire good bowlers. I wish he maintain his success and become the relibale backbone of the Bangla Team.
 
Some of these guys here are deluded as hell. To put it simply, my answer to the title thread is that Aamir is more talented than Mustazifur. It's kinda sad to see some BD fans hyping their players as if they're gonna be the new "80's West Indies" in our era. And you can't say that us Pak fans over hype our players, I hardly see any fellow Pak fans hyping their players, most of the time we throw insults and call them hacks which is what you guys can see from our posts. Mustafizur is relatively new to international cricket but in time, he'll be found out and eventually lose his bite. Aamir is a once in a generation bowler and people cannot use the excuse of pulling out their calculators and using stats to justify that player X is better than player Y.
 
Mustafizur is better than Amir, just like Yasir is better than Ashwin. More talented or not, that is subjective.
 
eradicator said:
For all the hype surrounding Amir , he had a very average record in Test matches inspite of bowling outside the SC in the most bowling friendly conditions.

Now if he turns out to be a flop bowler after his return , his fanboys would blame his absence from Competitive Cricket for 5 years as the reason behind his decline.
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come again when this guy bowls Wasimesque in-dippers and out-swingers, Amir was the second coming of wasim god akram. Stats may tell a story but both swings is no child's play
 
Executioner said:
if i correctly remember some of the other BD player related threads were open by Indians who were most definitely Indians?

And on the indian cricket forum there is already a similar thread
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Dont take man of steel seriously he always trolls so you better not feed the troll.

On topic Mustafizur is a great find for Bangladesh and there is no point in comparing to Amir. Amir was no ATG and he is not the benchmark for any upcoming pacer.
 
Madplayer said:
Why Have you wasted your time in replyinh to this thread. Let the bangladesh fans and Indian fans and all others who think rahman is better discuss it. The rest of us should come back after a year and bump the hell out of it when it backfires.
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Why is to so hard for anybody to digest that Mustafizur can be better than Amir. He has shown potential and is doing very well at the moment. Anyways Amir was no ATG and he is not the benchmark for any upcoming pacer. Amir could very well have gone the Junaid Khan way.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Cummins did that as well, but he isn't hyped up as the next lillee. Amir played away in helpful conditions and still has an average of 29. He was wonderful to watch and had serious potential but some here would have you believe he was already a top bowler. In fact he wasn't the best bowler in his own side, Asif was.
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Thats because Asif had the potential to become one of the best bowlers of all time
 
Hahahahaha. Mustafizur isdecent but like other mystery bowlers he will get caught out soon when analysts look at him more closely. Any how I am pretty much convinced India threw their games against Bangladesh so I will reserve my judgement on Mustafizur.
 
Also, talent is seriously subjective.

Is he more talented? Who knows.

You can really only measure results. Mustafizur is in incredibly form with great results right now. We'll see if Amir produces RESULTS when he comes back. Right now it's all hope and expectations.

I should add, setting Amir as the standard for young talented bowlers playing now is just setting up Amir for disappointment. For the millionth time, he hasn't played serious competitive cricket in 5 years. He honestly may not be that good when he comes back. Are Pakistanis prepared for that?
 
forget about mustafiz. who was more talented at the beginning of their career? Amir or Junaid Khan?
 
I do not understand the compulsion to always compare. One cannot compare talents. The very face that both parties are talented enough to be compared is a fact. Why the obsession to compare two bowlers or batters. Every one has their talent ( strength) and weaknesses which are eventually figured out by opposition.
 
cricfan14 said:
Also, talent is seriously subjective.

Is he more talented? Who knows.

You can really only measure results. Mustafizur is in incredibly form with great results right now. We'll see if Amir produces RESULTS when he comes back. Right now it's all hope and expectations.

I should add, setting Amir as the standard for young talented bowlers playing now is just setting up Amir for disappointment. For the millionth time, he hasn't played serious competitive cricket in 5 years. He honestly may not be that good when he comes back. Are Pakistanis prepared for that?
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This

Amir may not even bowl the way he used to do before. Maybe Rahat Ali will look like Wasim Akram in front of him. All this about getting him back in the side ASAP is silly tbh. He should earn it by performing in domestic cricket. There are many other hardworking and honest individuals who are doing well in domestic and are not being selected like Sadaf Hussain. So are you guys telling me he should trample on all these players and get a go in Pakistan team just because he showed potential five years ago?
 
A bengali man at the gym today termed mustazifur as 'wasim akram ka baap' !

I have nothing more to say :|
 
You know who Mustafiz's idol is right? Hint: It is not Wasim, not Starc, not Boult. Not Sharmas, Sandeeps or Malingas. Not Marshal, Holding, Ambrose, Walsh, Lillee, Thompson, Imran. Finally not Asif. Take a guess.
 
mosh101 said:
A bengali man at the gym today termed mustazifur as 'wasim akram ka baap' !

I have nothing more to say :|
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Lol I didn't realize that Mustafizur already has a WC win, countless Test and ODI series victories, 500 ODI wickets and 400 Test wickets under his belt.

Silly me..
 
mosh101 said:
A bengali man at the gym today termed mustazifur as 'wasim akram ka baap' !

I have nothing more to say :|
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Good for him.

Biggest problem with Bangali Supporters is, they are very passionate about their cricket but their players let them down. They had players like Ashraful & Alok Kapali but in the long run these players couldn't fulfill their potential.

So, Bangali supporters must chose their words very carefully because it will haunt them later.
 
Ottoman said:
Good for him.

Biggest problem with Bangali Supporters is, they are very passionate about their cricket but their players let them down. They had players like Ashraful & Alok Kapali but in the long run these players couldn't fulfill their potential.

So, Bangali supporters must chose their words very carefully because it will haunt them later.
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Ashraful or Alok were never consistant be it in the beginning. Alok was a poor man's Afridi and Ashraful scored once in a decade.

No one here is claiming that Mustafiz is going to be an ATG bowler. And just because a random bengali said something doesn't mean that proper cricket fans think the same. If Mustafiz is half as good as Wasim was we would be grateful
 
Executioner said:
Ashraful or Alok were never consistant be it in the beginning. Alok was a poor man's Afridi and Ashraful scored once in a decade.

No one here is claiming that Mustafiz is going to be an ATG bowler. And just because a random bengali said something doesn't mean that proper cricket fans think the same. If Mustafiz is half as good as Wasim was we would be grateful
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I have been a victim of same thing back in 2007 & then I had to show that Bangali dude all the records so that he will leave me alone.

But Yep, You have found 3 good pacers with great potential like Taskin, Rubel & Mustafiz. Its time these players fulfill their potential.
 
Executioner said:
Let me get you some facts right

1) This thread was started by an Indian

2) Its not exactly our fans who are hyping him so much. Yes there will be hype but no one is claiming him to be an ATG or whatever. And the praise he is getting is not just from Bangladesh but others who have watched him bowl. Go to Mustafizur's page on this forum and you will see praises from Indians who actually saw him bowl rather than some internet warriors who saw some highlights or followed the score from CI.

3) Bhuv was a swing bowler, Mustafizur doesn't swing just yet but bowls at a lethal line and length. Mustafizur also bowls considerably faster than Bhuv Kumar. You need to watch a match to understand what is his real weapon is. He bowls at a good line and length, now that is a skill that does not regress with time. Maybe his cutters will be less effective with time but he will have other variations in his sleeve - just 19

4) We don't jump the gun like some of you claim. Yes we do hype our players, maybe not all of us but some of us do - and that makes us minnow mentality? You can ask a neutral about what they think about the numerous threads on this forum where the likes if Umar amin, Akmal were so much hyped in the pasts, Haris Sohail, Maqsood, Rahat, Babar Azam all get signficant amount of hype - some will be justified some will not be justified. There even is a case where razzak said Shehzad is more talented than Tendulkar. I have seen Indian fans hype their players too. But isn't that what fans will do? Why single out Bangladesh just because we are underdogs? Minnow mentality? We are still minnows despite performing so well in recent times, no need to even argue with that.

5) Its most justifiable that he will be compared to Amir. FGS OP compared him to Amir, not Wasim akram, Lillee, Hadlee, Waqar. He was compard to someone who was a freak talent at the age of 19 - so if anything fans will compare him with Amir. And Amir was not the best bowler in the world, not even close even at that time. He averaged 29 in tests, whilst Dale Steyn and Pakistan's very own Mohammad Asif had a better average.
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You're so insecure man and that is rubbing off your posts, I've always respected and supported resurgence of BD in world cricket especially in ODIs but the way your posters behave after a few wins is just plain silly and nothing short of embarrassing. But what can I say, your actions are excusable since you people haven't tasted victories consistently over decades due to the burden of expectations from a mediocre side in all departments of the game, hence even small achievements and a magical spell can rile you all up which results in creating pre-mature threads, as I said in my previous post it all comes down your minnow mentality of not being able to handle the excitement created from victories more maturely. Regarding BD in test cricket they are still minnows even at home not being able to win a single series against top test playing nations for decades, no denying that fact.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Well look at the stats meme posted above, Mustafizur has had a better start than Wasim. So is he better? Absolutely not. Commentators and experts make OTT comments all the time.

Allan Donald in his stint as IPL bowling coach hyped Dinda as the best Indian bowler :))). Ian Chappell back in 2008 called Rohit Sharma the next big thing in Indian cricket.
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Wasim was recognized for his bowling talent in the eighties, but his stats started looking legendary only by early 1990s. Probably when he started bowling along with Waqar he found a way to realize his full potential. Mustafizur will also need a solid bowling partner to become a long race horse, lone wolves (with very few exceptions) don't go very far.
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
He may or may not be better but so far his record is
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Its not the man himself but rather the cockiness and arrogance of BD fans that is intolerable. Everytime BD achieve something, some idiot will be there to start comparisons and create hyperbole. Just look at this thread, 3 wickets on debut and people have already started comparing him with Amir who was by far the best in every aspect. Why can't they act maturely and wait for a few more tests matches before comparing him with other past and present players? Minnow mentality on full display from Bangalis, They need to #Growup!
 
[MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] You must be busy typing a lengthy post to justify yourself and other Bangalis!
 
What he did to Amla, Duminy and De Cock in that over today was jaw dropping to watch. I had my doubts over him succeeding in longer formats but that spell of his has convinced me he's going to have a long run as a Test bowler as well. His biggest strength is a nagging line and length and that awesome ability to surprise the batsman with his cutters. Today's pitch wasnt exaclty a bowler friendly track, was a flat patta with little bit of turn in it, but Mustafizur was troubling the batsmen all the time. Has that ability to surprise even set batsmen.

Teams will gradually figure out his strengths and start planning better against him but despite that with his skills, he should do well in his career. May he remain safe from injuries.
 
Mustazifur Rehman - a one series wonder.

Mohammed Amir - praised by the biggest cricketing legends around the world, from Michael Holding to Wasim Akram.

/thread.
 
Man Of Steel said:
Exactly, he is so insecure like the rest of Bangalis!
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yeah we are very insecure. that's why an Indian opens a thread in a Pakistani forum where no bangali has claimed Mustafiz to be ATG or even nowhere near it. and yet we are insecure.
 
and OP and everyone else, it is not "Rehman" but "Rahman". There is no "e" in Arabic and so let's not urdu-fi his name.
 
I understand this thread is Meh!But why call Bengalis names.There are 125mn Bengalis in India and we have nothing to do with this.Call them Bangladeshis if you want to address them.
 
I would rate Irfan pathan a better bowler over him. Amir's current form lacks firepower though.

Shouldn't he be compared with Muhammad Asif btw?
 
He has good pace for a 19 year old. Something we didn't see in ODIs where every odd ball was a cutter. Went 140+ on several occasions and was consistently bowling in late 130s. Lovely seam position too, in spite of having way too limber wrists.
 
hamid.s said:
yeah we are very insecure. that's why an Indian opens a thread in a Pakistani forum where no bangali has claimed Mustafiz to be ATG or even nowhere near it. and yet we are insecure.
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The only fans insecure are the posters taking shots at Bangladeshi fans. Look maybe Mustafizur isn't on par with Amir but the difference isn't much. But the name calling and troll posts suggest that they're the ones being insecure lol.
 
Well aamir had no match at the age of 18. He talents were literally oozing out . he was such a delight. His ability to work out the batsman was unique at such a tender age.

For me his first over against srilanka in T20 world cup was and is best over of T20 cricket i have ever seen.

Only bowler who to me came close to amir in natural talent was Cummins but sadly he broke down at the very start and still not recovered to his peak level.

Mustafizur is good but let him play at least a few games to even claim a comparison with amir. Though he is not an express pace bowler at the moment but he seems clever and hard working kid. If later on he manages to add 5kph to his speed then he will be on a different level altogether .Wish he and taskin can lead Bangladesh attack in the next decade .
 
Cricfan4eva said:
The only fans insecure are the posters taking shots at Bangladeshi fans. Look maybe Mustafizur isn't on par with Amir but the difference isn't much. But the name calling and troll posts suggest that they're the ones being insecure lol.
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Amir was a great bowler, not denying it. It's unfortunate that he got into troubles otherwise he would have been a much more accomplished and experienced player by now.

I just don't like comparing one player to another. They are all unique and different in their own terms. Mustafiz is so raw and new. He might or might not sustain the initial success. We BD fans don't have to be insecure about Amir or Mustafiz. I hope they both become great bowlers for their own country. It will be good for cricket.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
The only fans insecure are the posters taking shots at Bangladeshi fans. Look maybe Mustafizur isn't on par with Amir but the difference isn't much. But the name calling and troll posts suggest that they're the ones being insecure lol.
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well tbh that actually what came to my mind. Amir has been a class act when he debuted and obviously to a Pakistani fan it would be a matter of insecurity if some teenage fast bowlers come out of nowhere and does as good as Amir. TBH sample size is small and to be rated as talented as Amir will still take a lot of doing. Amir was a freak, but that doesn't mean others can have freakish talent similar to him.

But any comparison between mustafiz and legends like wasim are baseless. one played 10 matches, they other hundreds
 
A 19 years old Bangladeshi left armer bowling 140kph at this age is not a joke . And he has tasted early success against good batting lineups of good teams in all formats . Currently I will say he is the best pacer produced by Bangladesh ever & best performances as a Bangladeshi cricketer by any player in his first month of international cricket . Hope he improves further and plays long .
# Good for Bangladesh & World cricket.

But he is not equal to Amir's talent . Slightly short .
What Amir was at 17 even Wasim waqar were not that at even 20 . Even Wasim says that openly .

I don't think the OP say even say that Mustafiz at 19 is more talented than what wasim waqar were at 20.

Nonetheless Good Bowler. Good Find
 
cricketindiafan said:
What he did to Amla, Duminy and De Cock in that over today was jaw dropping to watch. I had my doubts over him succeeding in longer formats but that spell of his has convinced me he's going to have a long run as a Test bowler as well. His biggest strength is a nagging line and length and that awesome ability to surprise the batsman with his cutters. Today's pitch wasnt exaclty a bowler friendly track, was a flat patta with little bit of turn in it, but Mustafizur was troubling the batsmen all the time. Has that ability to surprise even set batsmen.

Teams will gradually figure out his strengths and start planning better against him but despite that with his skills, he should do well in his career. May he remain safe from injuries.
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Good observation bro.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Allan Donald in his stint as IPL bowling coach hyped Dinda as the best Indian bowler :))). Ian Chappell back in 2008 called Rohit Sharma the next big thing in Indian cricket.
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Agreed. If I remember correctly, Steve Waugh also said the same thing about Ishant Sharma; Sharma made Ponting look like a tailender. But today the whole universe knows what Sharma really is.
 
Dios said:
Can't wait for Pakistani fans' reactions when the fixer returns and completely fails to live up to the hype :))
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That's why he. Was ranked 8
And after all those years playing on seamin wickets boult averages 27

He is actually unaware that the great Bangla has produced a bowler more talent than amir, Starc and him , and quicker than Akhtar
 
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Executioner said:
Let me get you some facts right

1) This thread was started by an Indian

2) Its not exactly our fans who are hyping him so much. Yes there will be hype but no one is claiming him to be an ATG or whatever. And the praise he is getting is not just from Bangladesh but others who have watched him bowl. Go to Mustafizur's page on this forum and you will see praises from Indians who actually saw him bowl rather than some internet warriors who saw some highlights or followed the score from CI.

3) Bhuv was a swing bowler, Mustafizur doesn't swing just yet but bowls at a lethal line and length. Mustafizur also bowls considerably faster than Bhuv Kumar. You need to watch a match to understand what is his real weapon is. He bowls at a good line and length, now that is a skill that does not regress with time. Maybe his cutters will be less effective with time but he will have other variations in his sleeve - just 19

4) We don't jump the gun like some of you claim. Yes we do hype our players, maybe not all of us but some of us do - and that makes us minnow mentality? You can ask a neutral about what they think about the numerous threads on this forum where the likes if Umar amin, Akmal were so much hyped in the pasts, Haris Sohail, Maqsood, Rahat, Babar Azam all get signficant amount of hype - some will be justified some will not be justified. There even is a case where razzak said Shehzad is more talented than Tendulkar. I have seen Indian fans hype their players too. But isn't that what fans will do? Why single out Bangladesh just because we are underdogs? Minnow mentality? We are still minnows despite performing so well in recent times, no need to even argue with that.

5) Its most justifiable that he will be compared to Amir. FGS OP compared him to Amir, not Wasim akram, Lillee, Hadlee, Waqar. He was compard to someone who was a freak talent at the age of 19 - so if anything fans will compare him with Amir. And Amir was not the best bowler in the world, not even close even at that time. He averaged 29 in tests, whilst Dale Steyn and Pakistan's very own Mohammad Asif had a better average.
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That's why that over hyped over rated thing was At no 8
 
[MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION]
Comeon brother you are a good poster.

Let's be neutral .

Shane Watson batting & Amir bowling . He bowls a short one . Just as Watson tries to get in position to pull the ball, the ball hits the top of handle the circular horizontal part on top of the handle . Pops up and caught at mid-on. Do you know why this happened ? And if you can see the video Watson was shell shocked at what happened . It happened because of sheer pace . Speed hun showed it was 155kph. Watson had no time , it was short and Watson hammers such a delivery but he did not expect an 18 years old bowler to ball at 155kph .

You call such a bowler overhyped ? Mustafeez is almost 20 now. He is a very good bowler great find for Bangladesh and world cricket . But in such comparisons how can you go overboard and say Amir was over hyped ?
 
hamid.s said:
lol point taken. we don't say rahman either, its more like rohman in bengali.
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Great, you criticised someone for pronouncing an arabic name wrong and Pakistanizing it when even you people can't pronounce it correctly. Go practice your As and Zs.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Cummins did that as well, but he isn't hyped up as the next lillee. Amir played away in helpful conditions and still has an average of 29. He was wonderful to watch and had serious potential but some here would have you believe he was already a top bowler. In fact he wasn't the best bowler in his own side, Asif was.
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Agreed with this. Although Amir was also hyped by a lot of cricket experts all over the world, not just PPers. So I guess that carries a little more weight. Agreed though that he wasn't even the vest bowler in his own team.
 
They both have similar actions. I would like to see how he does on pitches that have more pace. I think MR has some pace and it seems he has been bowling within himself in the odi series so far. Which is a scary and exciting thought.

Amir however was able to swing it both ways at 17. This is a feat that not even veterans are able to achieve so I guess that puts him ahead.
 
Markhor said:
Why do we always have to compare and score these cheap nationalistic points.

As a cricket fan I'm just grateful we're going to have these two talented young fast bowlers in the game to make a lot of batsmen look silly.
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Some more doses of sanity in this thread would do nicely.
 
More talented? NO!
Skilled? perhaps especially the off cutters.

Better performance/results? Absolutely!
 
Bangladeshis, please don't take Man of Steel seriously, he's the latest troll.

Mustafizur has impressed me now because of the pace he's bowling at, regular 135kph.

He can work the ball and maintain good line and length, can turn out to be a good Test bowler actually.

However I don't believe he still possesses the skillset that Amir had - much higher pace and was able to massively swing the ball both ways. Ofcourse had the ability to use the old ball as well plus yorkers.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
[MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION]é
Comeon brother you are a good poster.

Let's be neutral .

Shane Watson batting & Amir bowling . He bowls a short one . Just as Watson tries to get in position to pull the ball, the ball hits the top of handle the circular horizontal part on top of the handle . Pops up and caught at mid-on. Do you know why this happened ? And if you can see the video Watson was shell shocked at what happened . It happened because of sheer pace . Speed hun showed it was 155kph. Watson had no time , it was short and Watson hammers such a delivery but he did not expect an 18 years old bowler to ball at 155kph .

You call such a bowler overhyped ? Mustafeez is almost 20 now. He is a very good bowler great find for Bangladesh and world cricket . But in such comparisons how can you go overboard and say Amir was over hyped ?
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I am saying that he was hyped but not overhyped. He knockrd tamim off his feet when tamim was in super form

My point is he was a freak talent snd yes he is more tslented than mustafizur if you ask me but amir story is not polished

And if you ask me Asif was better than amir. Honestly i am a big fan of amir and i would love to see him back. He served his punishment. Pakistan needs him and cricket is boring withlut a wuality quick from pakistan.
 
[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] Bwahahahahaha 155kph?!?!?! :))) it was 143 kph man, no need to exaggerate

 
PCP_1 said:
Great, you criticised someone for pronouncing an arabic name wrong and Pakistanizing it when even you people can't pronounce it correctly. Go practice your As and Zs.
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there is a difference between pronouncing and writing. His birth name, legal name, and even in Cricinfo it is written as "rahman". You can pronounce however way you feel like, but when you write it then write it like his real name. That's the least one can do. So please practice your comprehension skills first before writing something before understanding it.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but Mustafizur idolizes Amir. That should tell you a lot.
 
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