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Is Steve Smith the best Test batter since Don Bradman?

When did I belittle Smith? I merely posted some facts without any demeaning opinion. Your problem that you can't digest it.

What I posted are not some random stats. 10,000 Test runs is a major/significant milestone for any batsman, much like 500 Test wickets is for any bowler. The thread asks whether Steve Smith is the best batsman after Bradman. I merely showed that having played the same number of innings as him, both Tendulkar and Lara already reached 10,000 Test runs, while he is still lagging.
Sobers is rated as the greatest cricketer after Don Bradman in the history of the game.

But is he really the second greatest batsman of all time? None of us have watched him play live and although that average of 58 presents a strong case but it is boosted by minnow bashing as only England and Australia were top team during his time.
 
Sobers is rated as the greatest cricketer after Don Bradman in the history of the game.

But is he really the second greatest batsman of all time? None of us have watched him play live and although that average of 58 presents a strong case but it is boosted by minnow bashing as only England and Australia were top team during his time.
Idk, he's probably worse then Ashwin 🫠
 
Steve Smith has also regressed. Not seen him being the same steve he was a few years back. Maybe BGT can be his revival series.
 
A modern-day batting great, Smith will be desperate to play some big knocks following his subdued stint as an opener after the retirement of David Warner, managing only 171 runs in four Tests at an average of 28.50.
 
NO NO NO there players way ahead of Steve smith who are currently competing to take the throne of sir bradman

sir rizwan bradman and sir babar bradman

Oh sir Emran if only Babar had the "Australian system behind him" because we cannot forget that he's "too young and too classy"
 
Steve Smith has regressed big time. These are good batting pitches and he has failed again.

He has also become a bit stat obsessed, nearing his 10k mark from quite some time and his average has gone down from 61-62 to 56 now. He may well retire with an average below 55.
 
Steve Smith has regressed big time. These are good batting pitches and he has failed again.

He has also become a bit stat obsessed, nearing his 10k mark from quite some time and his average has gone down from 61-62 to 56 now. He may well retire with an average below 55.

Kohli’s average is 48 and might drop to 45 something.

It’s been a tough era for batting. Many batters of the 2000s era would have seen a major drop in batting average in this era.

I think modern era averages in test cricket are comparable to 1990s era.
 
Kohli’s average is 48 and might drop to 45 something.

It’s been a tough era for batting. Many batters of the 2000s era would have seen a major drop in batting average in this era.

I think modern era averages in test cricket are comparable to 1990s era.
Unlike Smith, Kohli’s home pitches have been very tough.

Smith has got a few tough batting pitches in India but elsewhere he has been served with good batting wickets.
 
Steve Smith finally among the runs in Test cricket.. he has scored 34th Test hundred in the 2nd Test against India in Melbourne.

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Steve Smith is the third-fastest to 34 Test hundreds by innings
 
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Kohli’s average is 48 and might drop to 45 something.

It’s been a tough era for batting. Many batters of the 2000s era would have seen a major drop in batting average in this era.

I think modern era averages in test cricket are comparable to 1990s era.

I don’t think Smith has dealt with as tough batting conditions because his home venue is Australia and pitches have always been good. In Sa, pitches have been bowling friendly only against India.

Anyways that doesn’t take away any credit from him. He is a top tier ATG test batsman and he showed this in this series. Superb knock really with the series drawn 1-1.
 
Some of the shots in his 140 innings were FIRE. It's no wonder he is a great batter of his era.

He is the greatest test batter of the previous era. And even currently. Now that he's back in form i can easily see him retiring with a 55 to 57 avg in test cricket followed by 40 test centuries.

Steve smith is class in test cricket.
 
Steve Smith leads the chart for the most Test runs at Lord’s by an overseas batter, amassing 591 runs in 10 innings at an impressive average of 59.10, with a highest score of 215. Close behind is fellow Australian Warren Bardsley, who scored 575 runs in just 7 innings at a remarkable average of 115.00. Legendary West Indian all-rounder Garry Sobers follows with 571 runs in 9 innings, averaging 95.16. Cricket icon Don Bradman is fourth on the list with 551 runs in 8 innings, boasting a top score of 254. Completing the top five is Shiv Chanderpaul, who scored 512 runs in 9 innings at an average of 85.33, with a highest score of 128 not out.
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Steve smith now needs 650 more runs to cross 11K. 3 series vs windies coming up. Inshallah
 
People clowning smith not realising he scored 66 on a minefield pitch, no other batter from AU or SA has scored this much in this wtc
 
He surely is the best Test batter since don. Bro scores runs for fun.
In his prime yes. Currently he's slightly > Sachin but below Sobers though.

His prime was freakish. Literally the most dominant 8 years of test cricket ive ever seen from anyone.

However afterwards he was avg 33 for 1.5 years, opening stint didnt work with him avg 28 and even before 33, he avg only 40 the year prior.

In recent times though he seems to be back scoring 2 cemturies in BGT, 2 vs Sri lanka and despite playing on a minefield, his 66 is the highest score of this test by an individual batter.
 

Cummins provides injury update on star batter after Lord's defeat​


Despite the bitter disappointment of the ICC World Test Championship Final loss, captain Pat Cummins is already shifting his focus to Australia's next challenge: a three-match Test series in the West Indies.

However, a significant concern hangs over their upcoming assignment, with the availability of star batter Steve Smith.

Smith missed the final day's play at Lord's, having suffered a dislocated finger while fielding on day three, casting uncertainty on his participation in the Caribbean tour.

"It's a little bit of a wait and see., but he's good and I think he enjoyed the green whistle for an hour yesterday. But he's positive," Cummins said after Australia's loss to South Africa at Lord's.

"I think it's somewhere around the 10 days to two weeks, and then maybe you try and bat with a splint and see how that looks. So I think it's a bit of a wait and see. I'd say first Test (against the West Indies) maybe unlikely, and then kind of go from there, but it's a bit early just to tell."

Cummins was questioned on whether this defeat and the upcoming Test series against the West Indies, which marks the beginning of the new World Test Championship cycle, will serve as a much-needed reset for the squad.

“To make these finals, it's normally off the back of being really strong at home, but you've got to win some away series, and good chances we get to do it straight away. So, three Test match series, you're straight into a really important cricket," Cummins noted.

"I think that's one of the good things about the World Test Championship — it's every Test series and Test match feels like you're playing for something significant. So in some ways it's good that we get to dust ourselves off and turn around in a couple of weeks and start looking ahead to the next one.”

With a blockbuster home summer, including the Ashes series against England on the horizon later this year, questions are naturally being raised about potential fresh faces in the squad.

Cummins said there was no reason to rush any decision surrounding personnel.

“I think we've got a couple of weeks before the first Test against the Windies, so I think we'll sit down and have a bit of a think after we digest this game. But for me, I think a new WTC cycle in some ways does feel like a bit of a reset," Cummins said.

"It's probably more for the selectors and me to sit down and we kind of map it ahead. I think, say, in white-ball series, a lot of the time it's kind of you build on four-year cycles around World Cups for ODIs. And I think maybe it's an opportunity in the Test match to do something similar, but it's a little bit early to tell.

"But again, coming to this match, you've got guys like Sam Konstas and Scotty Boland, Josh Inglis — all those guys who are right on the fringes."

Cummins also extended his praise to his South African counterpart, Temba Bavuma, who valiantly led his team and, despite battling an injury, forged a match-winning partnership with Aiden Markram.

“I mean first of all how he played, I thought he's fantastic is obviously gave that you know half a chance early and then didn't really give us another look until he got out. He had a big partnership, so I thought he played really well.” said Cummins.

“In terms of leading, it's always pretty hard unless you're kind of playing underneath someone to judge them I think so I don't know but from the outside he looked good.They absolutely deserve to make the final and showed why you know I think they're very deserving champions.”

Source: ICC
 
Will be a shame if he misses the series because it would have been an opportunity for him to pile on the runs. But then again that series is just a warm up for the Ashes. The Ashes will be the real deal.​
 
Will be a shame if he misses the series because it would have been an opportunity for him to pile on the runs. But then again that series is just a warm up for the Ashes. The Ashes will be the real deal.​
I think he will retire soon.

Australia's era may be coming to an official end mate.
 
They will win the Ashes. The Aussies don't go down despite defeats. They keep coming back up.
Lets see. But their future atm isnt looking good.

Australia needs to question and be worried about their upcoming talent. Their talent pool will still be > moat countries but lets see.
 
Lets see. But their future atm isnt looking good.

Australia needs to question and be worried about their upcoming talent. Their talent pool will still be > moat countries but lets see.
Khawaja - 38, Smith - 36, Starc - 35, Hazelwood 34. All wrong side of 30 and nearing the end.

Head - 31, Labuschagne - 31, Cummins 32. Nearing end of their prime years.

That is quite a number of 30+ players.
 
Smith reveals next step in recovery from finger injury

Steve Smith discusses his injury in the Ultimate Test and when he plans to return to action.

Watch the full match highlights as Aiden Markram and Kagiso Rabada led the way as South Africa bested the defending champions Australia to clinch the World Test Championship mace at Lord's.

Australia batter Steve Smith has spoken for the first time since he picked up a finger injury during the ICC World Test Championship Final and provided a prognosis surrounding his return to international cricket.

Smith was sent to hospital during the third day of Australia's defeat to South Africa at Lord's after the veteran suffered a compound dislocation of his right little finger while fielding in the slip cordon.

Australia talisman Steve Smith sustained a nasty blow on Day 3 at Lord's and walked off the field in discomfort.

The initial diagnosis for Smith is reasonably good, with the 36-year-old lucky to have avoided surgery and still a chance to feature in Australia's upcoming three-match Test series against the West Indies in the Caribbean.

“I will be in a splint for eight weeks now and I may be able to play with it in a couple of weeks," Smith revealed after Australia's five-wicket loss to the Proteas at Lord's.

"It will depend on my functionality and what I am able to do, so it was probably the best result I could have hoped for."

Smith's injury came about when he dropped South Africa captain Temba Bavuma when he was on just two in the Proteas' second innings and the missed chance cost the Aussies dearly as the skipper went on to score 66 and feature heavily in a match-winning partnership with opener Aiden Markram.

The Australian was standing extremely close to the batter when the drop occurred and was also sporting a helmet to cope with the uneven bounce in the Lord's pitch.

"I was standing pretty close with the helmet on and as we saw throughout the game a lot of nicks went short of first and second slip," Smith said.

"The plan was to stand pretty close and I lost sight of it with the angle that Mitchell Starc was bowling and it kind of went inside Bavuma's hip and I didn't quite see it until really late and it kind of dipped on me a little bit late too as well.

"It was tricky, it didn't go in my hand very well and fortunately there is no break there and it just split the skin and dislocated it which made me feel pretty ill at that stage."

The injury incident is the latest in a long set of dramas Smith has encountered at Lord's over the years, with the Australian admitting he now has a host of mixed emotions when recalling his recent appearances at the famous north London venue.

"I have a love/hate relationship with this place now," Smith stated.

"I have had some good memories here and some not so good ones as well.

"Getting hit in the head by Jofra (Archer) in 2019 and now having my digit knocked off out here yesterday as well.

"But it’s a wonderful place to play cricket and I have enjoyed it here and it was a real good game of cricket again."

ICC
 
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