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Babar was made vice-captain ahead of Imad (who had previously captained the side against Australia in Sarfaraz's absence). Imad was seemingly being groomed to take the mantle and his leadership skills seem up to par - there might be a slight arrogance but the patriotism is there to back that, I don't mind a slight arrogance/confidence in the team captain. After all, IK had both qualities and he was the best captain we have had historically.

Today, Wahab Riaz was not swapped for Mohammad Hasnain and instead, Imad Wasim was dropped in favour of Mohammad Nawaz. The remaining 11 (apart from Imam-injury) remained unchanged.

After the rumblings of grouping within the team and youngsters backing Imad to be captain during the WC I can not help but wonder what this new Misbah-Sarfaraz setup thinks of Imad Wasim's ability both on the field and his intangibles.

For any who argue that he is not "good enough", I could not disagree more. He is by far our BEST finisher, and he has impressive stats to prove it. Averaging 40+ with a 110 SR at #7 is no small feat. I've never quite understood why he gets bashed on here, he's > Asif Ali and could warrant a place in the side as a specialist lower-order batsman at #6 alone.
 
he was only rested today but he wouldnt make my team anyways ..just a darter and doesnt bat high enough
 
Omer2002 said:
he was only rested today but he wouldnt make my team anyways ..just a darter and doesnt bat high enough
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I hope that is the case. Time will tell whether he's genuinely being rested or there is a bias against him.

I wouldn't be against promoting him higher up the order and trying him at #6. It's silly to not include him in a PAK 11, he's a proven finisher who has scored against most sides.
 
Imad looks a bit fat. He needs to lose weight possibly.

Also, if Imad plays, Shadab shouldn't play. They are both similar.
 
Cornered-Forever said:
I hope that is the case. Time will tell whether he's genuinely being rested or there is a bias against him.

I wouldn't be against promoting him higher up the order and trying him at #6. It's silly to not include him in a PAK 11, he's a proven finisher who has scored against most sides.
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Did you watch his fielding in last match?
 
If they are not, they SHOULD be.

What a farce, true railu katta, of no use.

Only use is in T20s, but that too is doubtful with his laughable fitness - rather lack of fitness.
 
Imad was dropped in some world cup matches as well. He has not been able to pick many wickets in ODIs lately and his economy has gone up too.

This said, Imad should be competing with Iftikhar for the #7 position as a batting all-rounder who can bowl 5-6 overs of part-time spin.
 
Sadly Imad Wasim appears to need a danda, he takes his place in the T-20 and ODI team for granted after a few good outings. I find it shocking for a young cricketer to be in such poor shape. When he first came to the team he was young athletic and a very good fielder but he is a shadow of all that right now
 
If the were anti imad he wouldn't have been picked for the odi side.Misbah rates him highly and has an very strong lobby similar to that of hafeez and shoaib malik.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Imad was dropped in some world cup matches as well. He has not been able to pick many wickets in ODIs lately and his economy has gone up too.

This said, Imad should be competing with Iftikhar for the #7 position as a batting all-rounder who can bowl 5-6 overs of part-time spin.
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He was the most economical bowler for Pak in the England series and the WC.

Shadab fsr plays every game but Imad is always dropped even though he should be the fourth name on the team sheet after Babar, Haris and Amir/Shaheen.
 
Cornered-Forever said:
Babar was made vice-captain ahead of Imad (who had previously captained the side against Australia in Sarfaraz's absence). Imad was seemingly being groomed to take the mantle and his leadership skills seem up to par - there might be a slight arrogance but the patriotism is there to back that, I don't mind a slight arrogance/confidence in the team captain. After all, IK had both qualities and he was the best captain we have had historically.

Today, Wahab Riaz was not swapped for Mohammad Hasnain and instead, Imad Wasim was dropped in favour of Mohammad Nawaz. The remaining 11 (apart from Imam-injury) remained unchanged.

After the rumblings of grouping within the team and youngsters backing Imad to be captain during the WC I can not help but wonder what this new Misbah-Sarfaraz setup thinks of Imad Wasim's ability both on the field and his intangibles.

For any who argue that he is not "good enough", I could not disagree more. He is by far our BEST finisher, and he has impressive stats to prove it. Averaging 40+ with a 110 SR at #7 is no small feat. I've never quite understood why he gets bashed on here, he's > Asif Ali and could warrant a place in the side as a specialist lower-order batsman at #6 alone.
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Why does every player being dropped or rested have to be a conspiracy theory?
 
He can be a contender for captaincy spot so the underperforming and unfit captain maybe trying to sideline him
 
Imad is our best all-rounder who should be paired with a specialist spinner. Shadab has to go.
 
Was favored under Mickey, now he has to actually compete
 
Some people have a very short memory and seem to forget that despite Imad's short-comings in the fitness department he still averages over 40 with the bat with a SR of 110. He can almost always be relied upon to finish the innings for Pakistan and provides the much needed power-hitting at the back-end. And ofcourse he applies the choke with the ball too. He is our best all-rounder and that is a factually correct statement.

That said, I think he should consider surgery or something for his knees. He can't keep being a liability on the field and be in and out of the side due to fitness reasons
 
The management need to create an environment where no players think they are automatic picks because when that happens then results like the opening match of the World Cup happen.

Keep them on their toes, keep the bench-strength strong.
 
Team has played just 2 matches under new management, so its too early to say management is anti Imad or any player for that matter.
 
This fat blob is a liability in the field. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy on players who have poor fitness and fielding and are unwilling to improve.
 
Imad is a T20 player, he offers no penetration as a spinner bowler in odi cricket because he doesnt spin the ball.
 
There is not much left in Imad’s tank either - it’s better, if the new management starts to look beyond Imad for ODIs.

He is still a gun player in T20 for his 4 overs, for his batting and T20 is a game you don’t need mobile fielders (rather read someone like Imad will be least costly in T20 fielding); but PAK’s next target should be 2023 WC in India and there is very little that Imad can offer with his game, he’ll be officially 33 as well.

Couple of players I am really interested for this purpose - Gohar, a genuine finger spinner and a coolheaded late order batsman. Other one is a bit surprise choice but I am sure given proper opportunity, this guy can be much better than Shadab - Kamran Ghulam, because he bowls better, hits better.

There are not many ODIs for PCT to fix squad (those Holland, Ireland games are more damaging; like that famous ZIM tour); therefore Misbah has to fix it through domestics, PAK Cup & National League. For WC in India 2.5 spinners are must and that 2 (of 2.5) has to be much better bowler than Imad, Shadab, Iftekhar, Ghulam. Ideally, these 4 should contest for one spot at No. 7, may be Khusdil as well but the next (last) 4 spots in order must be on absolute bowling merit - Gohar’s batting is just a little bonus. Shaheen is the 2nd one ready, so in next two years Misbah has to find Shaheen’s partner (may be Naseem) and a 2nd specialist spinner. If Haris’s knee can sustain four years, then the No. 7 should be a medium pacer - that gives a perfect balance 2.5 pacers, 2.5 spinners + a 6th bowler.

I don’t see any spot for Imad or Shadab in three years, to be honest.
 
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Lol. About time this fake cricketer gets noticed. Imad isn’t good at anything...not even English.
 
Cornered-Forever said:
Babar was made vice-captain ahead of Imad (who had previously captained the side against Australia in Sarfaraz's absence). Imad was seemingly being groomed to take the mantle and his leadership skills seem up to par - there might be a slight arrogance but the patriotism is there to back that, I don't mind a slight arrogance/confidence in the team captain. After all, IK had both qualities and he was the best captain we have had historically.

Today, Wahab Riaz was not swapped for Mohammad Hasnain and instead, Imad Wasim was dropped in favour of Mohammad Nawaz. The remaining 11 (apart from Imam-injury) remained unchanged.

After the rumblings of grouping within the team and youngsters backing Imad to be captain during the WC I can not help but wonder what this new Misbah-Sarfaraz setup thinks of Imad Wasim's ability both on the field and his intangibles.

For any who argue that he is not "good enough", I could not disagree more. He is by far our BEST finisher, and he has impressive stats to prove it. Averaging 40+ with a 110 SR at #7 is no small feat. I've never quite understood why he gets bashed on here, he's > Asif Ali and could warrant a place in the side as a specialist lower-order batsman at #6 alone.
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Thinking about Misbah's statement "Allrounder must be first selected either as a bowler or a Batsmen" Wondering if that statement was against Imad wasim Who is a Genuine All rounder (But Not a specialist )
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] do you think Iftikhar is a good choice at 7? with a bit of contribution in bowling.
 
Imad deserved to be captain of ODI team and Babar could have been his deputy. Misbah's obsession with Sarfraz creating lots of problem.
 
People calling him rubbish, yea we all will love somone like Shakib or Klusener will play for us but Imad is the best we have got.
 
I don't think so. I think he has himself to blame, mainly because of his poor fielding and fitness.
 
But you just can't drop him from the T20I XI, despite his fitness/fielding. Our Best T20I bowler currently.
 
I don’t how people fail to realize how the guys average is nearly 40 and he comes to bat at like number 7 and all the runs he’s made are against top sides mostly England newzeland Australia
 
Saj said:
The management need to create an environment where no players think they are automatic picks because when that happens then results like the opening match of the World Cup happen.

Keep them on their toes, keep the bench-strength strong.
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It is a fine balance. On one hand, you want to create an environment where a player feels they are being supported and will be given the chances to play, on the other you don't want to create complacency. Honestly, that is 90% of Head Coaching at the international level.
 
Mean&Green said:
I don’t how people fail to realize how the guys average is nearly 40 and he comes to bat at like number 7 and all the runs he’s made are against top sides mostly England newzeland Australia
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People are fools

We don’t have any other AR capable of averaging close to 30, forget 40.
 
Imad Wasim has played 21 matches this year, has a batting average of 47.20 and strike rate 131.11

What do people want? Average of 100 and strike rate of 200?
 
shah_1 said:
Imad Wasim has played 21 matches this year, has a batting average of 47.20 and strike rate 131.11

What do people want? Average of 100 and strike rate of 200?
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That should be the title of a thread maybe than they will all shut up
 
Excellent bowling from Imad when things looking gone out of control for Pakistan vs SL
 
Embarrassing how he could not even put away full tosses but but he’s the best finisher because cool hair and English....
 
Imad playing really well now - comes good in tight situations
 
He is the best we have

People need to accept the bitter truth
 
Fantastic knock.

What Imad does so well is find the gaps without going for huge hoicks.
 
Eariler I was against him as well but the way he has been batting this year, it is hard seeing anyone replace him.

Infact he has been the best no7 batsman in the world this year
 
At the moment it should be imad vs babar in running for captaincy.

Babar is the best batsman, calm head, makes all three format teams on merit. Has won and will continue to win matches for pakista with his batting. Has under 19 captaincy experience. His cons are he is not that well spoken, and doesn't seem too inspirational.

Imad really dug us out of a hole in the Afghanistan match. Capable of winning us matches with his allround abilities. Well spoken as well. His cons are he doesn't make test team so we would have to split captaincy.
 
He will be dropped on the first opportunity available. Don't think he will go well with the acha bacha mentality that the dressing room under Misbah will strive for.
 
Always admired Imad Wasim for what he brings to the table. Pakistan should always go with Imad in place of Faheem, Shadab and Asif ali. He does all the work which later 3 are supposed to do. The other two places should be replace by a genuine spinner and a genuine batsman who can hit the ball long.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imad Wasim in T20Is and ODIs since 7 November 2018:<br><br>Innings - 24<br>Runs - 623<br>Average - 38.94<br>Strike-rate - 125.35<br>Scores over forty - 9<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1181258233132015620?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I'm still not convinced by him in the ODI format, he doesn't make the team on batting nor bowling alone which makes him a railu katta in my eyes.

Gun t20 player though. Perfect for the format.

Should be t20 captain, ODI captaincy has to go to Babar though.
 
hitthestump said:
I'm still not convinced by him in the ODI format, he doesn't make the team on batting nor bowling alone which makes him a railu katta in my eyes.

Gun t20 player though. Perfect for the format.

Should be t20 captain, ODI captaincy has to go to Babar though.
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I’ve always felt the same way but he is a super star in the making
With shadab khan under performing he has still come to the fore and shown his talents
I feel his performances are veiled and not under the same spotlight as some of his seniors but he still fights on till the last delivery
Gun player and next captain of t20is
 
Imad is one of those players who can do no right in the eyes of some and is always one excuse away from getting dropped.

Yes he is lazy and doesn’t take his fitness seriously, but he has repeatedly proved himself to be our best all-rounder and regularly contributes with the bat.

It is quite disappointing that he doesn’t seem keen on Test cricket because I think he would have been a very good second spinner in the UAE. He can average around 35 with the bat and bowl long, economical spells.

In ODIs and T20s, he needs to be paired with a specialist spinner and not that overrated fielder who cannot bowl or bat. Imad’s effectiveness will increase if he is partnered with a genuine spinner.
 
Imad is developing into a batting all-rounder. In my opinion, he can play the Hafeez role for Pakistan. Bat at #6 or #7 where he can score 40-50 runs at a decent strike rate and then bowl 5-6 overs of part-time spin.
 
Imad Wasim has been the best lower order ODI batsman this year

Alex Carey

19 matches 512 runs Avg 51.20 and strike rate of 106.22


Imad Wasim

21 matches 472 runs Avg 47.20 and strike rate of 131.11


Jimmy Newsham

17 matches 424 runs Avg 47.11 and strike rate of 109.27

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=8;batting_positionmin1=6;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=2;filter=advanced;spanmax1=31+Dec+2019;spanmin1=01+Jan+2019;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting


Can Imad Wasim sustain this?
 
Saj said:
The management need to create an environment where no players think they are automatic picks because when that happens then results like the opening match of the World Cup happen.

Keep them on their toes, keep the bench-strength strong.
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That doesn't do any good to the confidence of the player either. Negative reinforcement works in some cases but here if players aren't sure of selection, it may not necessarily bring the best out of them. besides who decides the metrics for selection
 
Nice Video by Cricket Australia ...


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Mickey Arthur on Imad Wasim

"Other candidates for captaincy assuming Sarfaraz Ahmed was removed: Imad Wasim would've come into the equation. Mohammad Amir has an unbelievable cricket brain, but possibly not in a captaincy role, maybe VC. A guy who I think is a genuine leader, everything he does tells me leader. He trains the house down. He's a forceful character, in a nice way and I don't think he'd be scared of hard decisions and people will shoot me down, but I think Shadab Khan has all the attributes of captaining Pakistan. Saifi would go to him a lot on the field in terms of getting angles right. He's very mature. That was another possibility. I get excited when we're talking about these guys captaining Pakistan, they're all young guys who have come through the ranks and are developing into quality intl. cricketers and that makes me happy. The more leaders Pakistan can have going forward, the better"
 
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