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Since the preparation of English tour started, from fitness test to kakul camp, and from departure to side match, it seems Shan Masood has been most highlighted player, other than Amir for different reason.

PCB official social media person who is with team and also responsible for official photographs also highlighting Shan. Media manager also forwarding him for interview.

It seems that PCB establishment has put weight behind Shan for future Test Captain, if any such situation arrives.

No doubt, Shan is very hardworking and sensible lad
 
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he can speak very good english and can handle himself in front of the camera's. Its all part of the media management of the team. We will see Shan, Misbah and arthur and perhaps Azhar occasionally in front of the media. they might throw in younis too has he's pretty good with the english media too. Its got nothing to do with cuptaany as our gossip looking fans and media seem to think. Shan has to cement his place in the side by hitting some big hundreds before we can think of the cuptaany.
 
Such a stupid thread
Just because a player isfit and speakd good English ,he should be made captain
Bhai use common sense
Ms dhoni wasn't exactly a PHD graduate
This guy averages 31 on UAE ki phatta wickets
 
Asim2Good said:
there are word going around that Misbah want to hand over the captaincy to Shan as well, YK is working with Misbah in this regard too. and after retirement they will be given high posts in PCB as Shan's father have influence within PCB
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Yes. Shan is very close to Younus. His father bring younus in UBL on very good package
 
Hopefully yes, has the right personality and cricketing mind to lead team Pakistan.

Insh Allah IF he performs on this tour.
 
The guy needs to learn how to hold a cricket bat the right way round and learn how to use it and some people are suggesting him as captain :facepalm:
 
I think the point the OP is trying to make is that PCB is pushing hard for shan masood to be in the limelight even though he is a below average player. Something we noticed on the pictures thread as well where 90 per cent of pictures were of shan masood. He feels that PCB has hidden intentions and that could be very well the case considering his father sits on the BOG. Nepotism is roots deep in the country and shan masood is another shining example.
 
Appointing Shan as the next captain ahead of mainstays like Azhar, Asad, Sarfraz, and even Younis (though to a lesser degree as him and Masood are tight) is a recipe for causing infighting in the side.

Also, I like Shan but he barely holds a spot in the team at the moment. Has to be a regular in the Test side for at least 2 years, performing consistently and avoiding controversies before we can even think of such ideas.
 
I would like Shafiq to be the next Test captain, but Azhar it will be.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I think the point the OP is trying to make is that PCB is pushing hard for shan masood to be in the limelight even though he is a below average player. Something we noticed on the pictures thread as well where 90 per cent of pictures were of shan masood. He feels that PCB has hidden intentions and that could be very well the case considering his father sits on the BOG. Nepotism is roots deep in the country and shan masood is another shining example.
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There's nothing to do with nepotism and you can breathe easy that there is literally no chance of him being captain

He is being coverage because he is an educated guy with a British university degree who knows how to conduct himself in public. After being embarrassed by Akmal's antics and Shehzad's fatwas for years PCB is just glad to have an educated face to put forward in the media.

And there is nothing wrong with it too. Much rather be represented by him than clowns we have had.

If he performs poorly then Ofcourse he will be dropped instantly like he had been dropped over the winter.

If he actually had that much power and influence then he would have been given a free pass to play uninterrupted for over a year after the match winning, record breaking innings in Sri Lanka. But no he got Promptly dropped when it seemed he was struggling.

Hopefully it seems that Pakistan has put behind the days when Afridi's favourites like Shehzad would play games after games despite terrible performances. In Masood's case it seems that has happened and regardless of who is favourite they don't get unlimited opportunities. Thank God!
 
how has Masood been highlighted?
even if he is, I don't think PCB has enough foresight to strategically position someone as the next captain

Azhar is VC, and (unfortunately) likely to be the next captain
 
Mamoon said:
I would like Shafiq to be the next Test captain, but Azhar it will be.
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Shafiq as captain? based on what? Azhars poor showing as ODI captain makes him a poor choice as Test captain.
 
Azhar will be the next captain. Shan should aim to cement his place before worrying about captaincy
 
By PCB standards he has the right "heritage" for captaincy


How about Shan prove himself a batsmen first
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I think the point the OP is trying to make is that PCB is pushing hard for shan masood to be in the limelight even though he is a below average player. Something we noticed on the pictures thread as well where 90 per cent of pictures were of shan masood. He feels that PCB has hidden intentions and that could be very well the case considering his father sits on the BOG. Nepotism is roots deep in the country and shan masood is another shining example.
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Thanks to elaborate my point. I am not suggesting but just stating the observation.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Shafiq as captain? based on what? Azhars poor showing as ODI captain makes him a poor choice as Test captain.
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Captaincy in ODIs is not the same as captaincy in Tests.

Misbah was a poor ODI captain but a good Test captain.

Problem in ODIs is that Azhar was not allowed to settle as a player first, so not only does he have to deal with captaincy pressure but also he has to prove himself as an ODI batsman.

In Tests, his position is settled and he doesn't have to fight for his place. He will be more comfortable leading the side in Tests and can be a captain in Misbah's mould.

However, that is why I don't want him to captain in Tests and would prefer Shafiq.

Shafiq is a different character to Azhar/Misbah and is a bit more aggressive. Under his leadership, we might see something different in terms of approach and tactics because after 6 years of having Misbah lead the team, having his clone Azhar lead the side for another 5-6 years isn't the most entertaining idea.
 
Pakistan test team is lot more settle, the most important thing in test team is quality of bowlers than who is Captain. In Yasir and Amir we got two world class bowlers, Wahab, Rahat are not poor second tier attack, this makes job of Captaincy lot easier...No matter how good you are as a tactician if you don't have resources(like Dhoni), you are not going to get results... Azhar will do fine as a Captain, since he is a comfortable member of test team... In ODI, he is not an established player... Only problem is too much influence of Misbah, who was too pragmatic for my liking, we need more dynamic and forward looking Captain...

Next three tours will tell us how much Azhar and Shafiq have developed in last 5/6 years. They had being good(not great but good) in Asia...
 
I think azhar will be next captain and he should be the one they have invested him a lot even though I would love to see shafiq become next captain
 
bhai we all know his connection and his family, without his connection he wouldnt be near the team!
 
If he performs on English tour, he will become a permanent member of the team.

I see no harm if he becomes the captain depending on his performance.
 
Ahmed Shehzad should be the future captain in all three formats, the only captaincy material.

After Misbah, Younus should be the temporary captain till Shehzad makes his way back into the side after a successful domestic season.
 
Slog said:
There's nothing to do with nepotism and you can breathe easy that there is literally no chance of him being captain

He is being coverage because he is an educated guy with a British university degree who knows how to conduct himself in public. After being embarrassed by Akmal's antics and Shehzad's fatwas for years PCB is just glad to have an educated face to put forward in the media.

And there is nothing wrong with it too. Much rather be represented by him than clowns we have had.

If he performs poorly then Ofcourse he will be dropped instantly like he had been dropped over the winter.

If he actually had that much power and influence then he would have been given a free pass to play uninterrupted for over a year after the match winning, record breaking innings in Sri Lanka. But no he got Promptly dropped when it seemed he was struggling.

Hopefully it seems that Pakistan has put behind the days when Afridi's favourites like Shehzad would play games after games despite terrible performances. In Masood's case it seems that has happened and regardless of who is favourite they don't get unlimited opportunities. Thank God!
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I would be a happy person if you stop quoting me, slog. Your posts always revolve around Ahmed Shehzad and Umar akmal whatever the topic. And i have no interest in discussing them. Get over your obsessive disorder.
 
It may be a media strategy because Shan is media savvy. I do hope that Azhar Ali never comes near the Test captaincy. He's too reactionary.
 
LowKiiSavage said:
I think the point the OP is trying to make is that PCB is pushing hard for shan masood to be in the limelight even though he is a below average player. Something we noticed on the pictures thread as well where 90 per cent of pictures were of shan masood. He feels that PCB has hidden intentions and that could be very well the case considering his father sits on the BOG. Nepotism is roots deep in the country and shan masood is another shining example.
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This is quite true.

Shan has some really big powers backing him.

Not sure why such an average player is getting so much limelight, taking a free ride in the team as well.

But then there's also Shehzad, who has the power of media behind him, despite not warranting a spot in any team.
 
In all sanity, Asad Shafiq it should be.
But you don't mention PCB and Sanity in one sentence. (I just have).
 
haha can't stop laughing at this thread. Shan Masood of all people. brother he will be a history after this series.
 
I think the management is trying its best to give preference to players from an educated background. Nothing wrong with that IMO
 
Mamoon said:
Captaincy in ODIs is not the same as captaincy in Tests.

Misbah was a poor ODI captain but a good Test captain.

Problem in ODIs is that Azhar was not allowed to settle as a player first, so not only does he have to deal with captaincy pressure but also he has to prove himself as an ODI batsman.

In Tests, his position is settled and he doesn't have to fight for his place. He will be more comfortable leading the side in Tests and can be a captain in Misbah's mould.

However, that is why I don't want him to captain in Tests and would prefer Shafiq.

Shafiq is a different character to Azhar/Misbah and is a bit more aggressive. Under his leadership, we might see something different in terms of approach and tactics because after 6 years of having Misbah lead the team, having his clone Azhar lead the side for another 5-6 years isn't the most entertaining idea.
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Shafiq struggles to take hold of situations with the bat when hes in the middle so of thats anything to go by his captaincy will probably be just as bad, plus he has no real strong back ground of being captain before, Azhar may have a stable position in tests but i dont see how that will change his mental mindset, hes a reactive cricketer rather then a proactive one and these type of players never make good captains.
 
As long as our captain is willing to take risks, I dont mind who it is. Azhar and Asad as characters are not the type who take risks with the bat.

Realistically Sarfaraz is being wasted by the PCB. He should be the captain of all 3 formats
 
Amjid Javed said:
Shafiq struggles to take hold of situations with the bat when hes in the middle so of thats anything to go by his captaincy will probably be just as bad, plus he has no real strong back ground of being captain before, Azhar may have a stable position in tests but i dont see how that will change his mental mindset, hes a reactive cricketer rather then a proactive one and these type of players never make good captains.
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Azhar and Shafiq both are 'good boys' and therefore have no leadership skills and charisma. I wont even touch them with a 6 feet pool when selecting for captaincy.
 
Lol at Shafiq being a contender for captaincy.

He's prolly kind of guy who wouldn't be excited to captain his gully team

For all the criticism Sarfaraz to me seems the best long term option right now.

Azhar id be tempted to give till end of year
 
LowKiiSavage said:
Azhar and Shafiq both are 'good boys' and therefore have no leadership skills and charisma. I wont even touch them with a 6 feet pool when selecting for captaincy.
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Nothing wrong with that imo because they atleast have respect of the dressing room and experts mostly due to their performances. Also they don't embarrass the nation with their antics and fatwas. (Talking in terms of character rather than captaincy skills here)

Who is your preference if you had to answer the question right now?
 
Mamoon said:
Captaincy in ODIs is not the same as captaincy in Tests.

Misbah was a poor ODI captain but a good Test captain.

Problem in ODIs is that Azhar was not allowed to settle as a player first, so not only does he have to deal with captaincy pressure but also he has to prove himself as an ODI batsman.

In Tests, his position is settled and he doesn't have to fight for his place. He will be more comfortable leading the side in Tests and can be a captain in Misbah's mould.

However, that is why I don't want him to captain in Tests and would prefer Shafiq.

Shafiq is a different character to Azhar/Misbah and is a bit more aggressive. Under his leadership, we might see something different in terms of approach and tactics because after 6 years of having Misbah lead the team, having his clone Azhar lead the side for another 5-6 years isn't the most entertaining idea.
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dont know but would love to see Sarfraz captain across all formats, he is a bit paniky and over xcited but he has the germs of wat it takes to be a good captain... dont think asad or azhar are better than him... historically we always had hot heads so a cool minded captain would work better, now we have too many cool heads so the captain with hot head might actually work better
 
Slog said:
Nothing wrong with that imo because they atleast have respect of the dressing room and experts mostly due to their performances. Also they don't embarrass the nation with their antics and fatwas. (Talking in terms of character rather than captaincy skills here)

Who is your preference if you had to answer the question right now?
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Slog, Azhar Ali is the same guy whose own team laughed at because he was so poor in a certain domestic event and in PSL if i remember correctly. He does not in any way commands the respect of the dressing room as a captain, if you are trying to imply that. Shafiq is a little boy from karachi and does not have any leadership traits. Dont think he would ever captain the Pakistani team. He has yet to rectify his own consistency issues by the way where he scores in one test and goes in hiding for the rest of the series.

I have no preference currently as no one in the team is capable enough. I dont see any one sadly with any leadership skills or charisma in the current squad. Sarfraz is one with a slight amount of flair but his own performances havent invited much confidence.
 
What credential Shan Masood has to be next captain? Speak English and fit and scoring duck against quality bowlers.
 
Rafay Shafiq said:
Since the preparation of English tour started, from fitness test to kakul camp, and from departure to side match, it seems Shan Masood has been most highlighted player, other than Amir for different reason.

PCB official social media person who is with team and also responsible for official photographs also highlighting Shan. Media manager also forwarding him for interview.

It seems that PCB establishment has put weight behind Shan for future Test Captain, if any such situation arrives.

No doubt, Shan is very hardworking and sensible lad
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With Shan scoring 50 (54) in his last Odi vs Australia and scoring the highest amount of runs from Pakistan side vs South Africa He should be made Test & Odi Captain immediately.



1. Super fit

2. Educated

3. Professional

4. Hardworking

5. Disciplined

6. Intelligent




Record List A average of 55.




I do not care if he opens with Imam in Odi’s or bats at 3, 4 or 5. He should be flexible in that because surely Imam, Babar & Haris are booked for 3 spots out of top 5.



[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what is your Point of View. Even if fit Sharjeel or Ahsan makes team as 2nd Opener with Fakhar going back to domestic for now I would want Shan to be in playing eleven.
 
He showed more quality in SA than all Pakistani batsmen put together(apart from Babar Azam). He will be a run machine in ODIs.

Sometimes List A stats could be deceptive but not his stats.
 
I thinks Pakistan should invest in the best player they have. i.e Babar. Make Babar ODI captain with following line-up while Sarfaraz, Shan or whoever leads in the tests.
1. Fakhar (One bad tournament is not enough to drop your impact player. If he is a hack, so is Shikhar and so was Graeme Smith)
2. Imam (Most improved Pakistani batsman)
3. Babar (C)
4. Rizwan (Much better bat than Sarfaraz. Lacks hitting ability to bat down the order)
5. Haris (He can both accelerate/block)
6. Umar Akmal (I have a feeling he will work better under a more understanding captain. Anyway clear-cut role for him. A quick 40 at this position will be sufficient for most occasions)
7. Imad
8. Wahab (Can be replaced in a year or two)
9. Amir
10. One genuine spinner who makes the team on his bowling alone. AND is a wicket taker.
11. SSA
 
This guy doesn't deserve to be the captain at all, in all formats. In ODI cricket, looking at his List A record, you can say it is acceptable, but not in T20I and Test formats, where he is mediocre.
 
Shan would’ve produced a better output than Imam if he had got the backing that the latter did. It’s a shame he wasn’t brought in to the ODI side when he was dominating the List A scene and Imam got a chance ahead of him.
 
He's got a good game against spin, better than imam, this is important for the next world cup
 
I'm excited at the prospect of our test match team.
Shan haris Babar backed by imam Asad is a very good top 5.
Time to make some moves in this test championship.
I do still think though u need an experienced captain,

S there a champions trophy in 2 years?
 
Abdullah said:
I'm excited at the prospect of our test match team.
Shan haris Babar backed by imam Asad is a very good top 5.
Time to make some moves in this test championship.
I do still think though u need an experienced captain,

S there a champions trophy in 2 years?
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Not asad Shafiq, he's garbage and past it . I'd rather put Saad or Saud to replace him. And Usman saluhuddin too

I'd like the batting for tests to be:

Shan
Imam/Abid
Haris
Babar
Usman saluhuddin
Saad / Saud
Rizwan (wk)
 
Shan's performance in the south africa tests was impressive, and he should be given an extended run in tests.
a possible candidate for test captaincy
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Not asad Shafiq, he's garbage and past it . I'd rather put Saad or Saud to replace him. And Usman saluhuddin too

I'd like the batting for tests to be:

Shan
Imam/Abid
Haris
Babar
Usman saluhuddin
Saad / Saud
Rizwan (wk)
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usman salahuddin cannot score in league cricket this season. Even i got him out caught behind lol
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
With Shan scoring 50 (54) in his last Odi vs Australia and scoring the highest amount of runs from Pakistan side vs South Africa He should be made Test & Odi Captain immediately.



1. Super fit

2. Educated

3. Professional

4. Hardworking

5. Disciplined

6. Intelligent




Record List A average of 55.




I do not care if he opens with Imam in Odi’s or bats at 3, 4 or 5. He should be flexible in that because surely Imam, Babar & Haris are booked for 3 spots out of top 5.



[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what is your Point of View. Even if fit Sharjeel or Ahsan makes team as 2nd Opener with Fakhar going back to domestic for now I would want Shan to be in playing eleven.
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After the failed experiments of Azhar and Sarfraz, even a slow-learner like PCB will be wary of making someone captain who has either just returned to the team and/or is still fighting for his place. That is why I think it is almost inevitable that captaincy will fall in Babar’s lap sooner or later, and I think it will be the right decision.
 
Mamoon said:
After the failed experiments of Azhar and Sarfraz, even a slow-learner like PCB will be wary of making someone captain who has either just returned to the team and/or is still fighting for his place. That is why I think it is almost inevitable that captaincy will fall in Babar’s lap sooner or later, and I think it will be the right decision.
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You are right, I think he played well but shouldn't be captain. Babar definitely should be the new captain
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Not asad Shafiq, he's garbage and past it . I'd rather put Saad or Saud to replace him. And Usman saluhuddin too

I'd like the batting for tests to be:

Shan
Imam/Abid
Haris
Babar
Usman saluhuddin
Saad / Saud
Rizwan (wk)
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Yeah but we need some experience in there be it sarfaraz or Asad. I think Azhar ali is past it
 
Abdullah said:
Yeah but we need some experience in there be it sarfaraz or Asad. I think Azhar ali is past it
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Nah, we need to move on and groom new players. Shafiq and Sarfraz have poor batting averages so they don't even deserve to be there. Also, as we've seen in this world cup experience is overrated. What have the "experienced" Malik, hafeez and Sarfraz done? Nothing
 
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