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England's second #raisethebat Test against Pakistan again suffered from lengthy interruptions on day two at The Ageas Bowl, this time with 'bad light' curtailing proceedings early.

Under gloomy, overcast skies, England reduced Pakistan from 126-5 at the start of the day to 223-9 by the early close, following just 40.2 overs of play.

James Anderson, one of England's standout bowlers, with figures of 3-48 so far in the innings, accepted the decision from the umpires but called for "more leeway".

"We're a little bit frustrated we didn't get a chance to finish them off but the light has been gloomy all day and we've been lucky to get the play we have," Anderson said at stumps.

"It was gloomy but it's one of those when it didn't seem like the batsmen were struggling too much. I don't know what the light reading was, maybe there could be a bit more leeway there."

Pakistan's Mohammad Rizwan, who was picking the ball up well enough to finish 60 not out at the close, suggested he was unruffled by the experience, adding: "I was ready to play but the decision rests with the umpires, and they have the responsibility to ensure no one gets injured. It's the same for both teams."

The topic of bad light was discussed on the latest Cricket Debate - which you can listen to in the player above - and one suggestion raised was for pink balls to be substituted in when the floodlights take over - recreating the conditions of day/night Test cricket - but Anderson, nor his long-time bowling partner, Stuart Broad, are convinced.

"I don't think we can change the colour of the ball when it gets a bit dark, I don't think that's a goer really," said Anderson.

Broad echoed that sentiment, adding: "We've seen with the history of the pink ball under lights, it's been very tricky for the batsmen and would be unfair to the balance of the game.

"You could lose five for 10, that's going too far and complicating the situation. If the players' safety is in doubt, the officials have to bring them off. If they think it's safe, you play."

Broad, also speaking to Sky Sports at stumps on day two, praised Anderson for the hard work he has put in between Tests, after a poor performance in the opening game led to some questioning his place in the side - even with 593 Test wickets and counting.

"We have talked loads over the last week," said Broad. "Technically he has put a bit more of an arc into his run-up which he feels aims him a bit more at off stump.

"In training he said he felt really good, so I think his confidence was lifted a lot from something he worked on in the nets.

"But he has had one bad game in, what, eight years and I don't think it was that bad a game. He just went at over two an over which is rare for him.

"It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and say 'is he coming to the end?' and all that sort of nonsense but we know what a class bowler he is and he has shown that over the last few days."

https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...t-broad-and-the-cricket-debate-have-their-say
 
Mark Ramprakash

Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

There is no easy answer. We need centres with improved light and if it is the case that we need to play with a pink ball we need to do that.
 
I don’t get what’s so complicated about this , when you think cricket as a sport is already handicapped due to rain and there’s nothing that can be done about that if you are playing outdoors. However when it comes to bad light and if you are playing in test venues that already have floodlights , what’s the issue? If you need to improve visibility of the ball, just allow the umpire to swap over to a pink ball when the need arises , or just use a pink ball all the time - if it ensures cricket can be played for longer.

If you still need more light, maybe add a headlight on the batsman’s helmet and give the umpire a torch.
 
Once again the start is delayed, due to bad light. What's the point of having floodlights if you won't even play under them? What's the problem with just switching to a similar age pink ball? Would they rather sit inside the dressing room all day with a light meter hoping they can play an over or 2? It's pathetic. Test cricket is going to kill itself with these absolutely avoidable lengthy delays, this is part of what is killing the broadcasting deals and match crowds.
 
Mark Ramprakash

Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

There is no easy answer. We need centres with improved light and if it is the case that we need to play with a pink ball we need to do that.

Yeah I wrote the same in the match thread. Use a pink ball which isn't any different from the red cherry in lacquer or structure. That should make it possible to play under bad light. And a different colored die shouldn't make a difference to playing conditions.
 
Like many others on this forum I am quite annoyed by Bad light causing delays. Fans and pundits alike are asking for a rethinking of the rules and some innovation to avoid situations such as this.

One solution that came to my mind and has been mentioned by others is using the pink ball in conjunction with Flood lights. Unlike the pink ball for Day-Night tests, which I believe has some structural differences with the red cherry, a pink ball should be made which is no different structurally than the red version. Visibility shouldn't be an issue since the game wouldn't be played in total darkness anyway. As far as I know simply changing the color of the dye won't make any difference to the playing conditions. But I would like to hear the opinion of those who may have more knowledge of such things.

So what do you guys think? Should this be looked into? Will this have a significant impact on playing conditions? Will the administration which stubbornly resists any change to the marathon format even give it a thought?
 
Its a good idea and could eliminate playing under lights issue.
 
Its a good idea and could eliminate playing under lights issue.

Seems like the most rational move to me. Test cricket is already a tedious affair, it cannot afford delays over something as ridiculous as bad light in the 21st century.
 
Get rid of red cherry.. Use pink ball for both Day and DayNight test..
 
There is literally no reason not to change to a pink ball if it's bad light. Perhaps it might tip the game in the bowlers' favour, but so be it. There are so many things in cricket out of anyone's control that tip the game in the batsman's or bowler's favour, but we all just accept it and play. Take Day 1, when the weather was overwhelmingly in the bowler's favour. Why didn't they walk off the pitch and say we can't play, the conditions are unfair to the batsmen? No, they just accept it and play. It's the exact same with bad light. Switch to the pink ball, accept the benefits to the bowlers, just like baking sun benefits the batsmen, and just play the game.
 
There is literally no reason not to change to a pink ball if it's bad light. Perhaps it might tip the game in the bowlers' favour, but so be it. There are so many things in cricket out of anyone's control that tip the game in the batsman's or bowler's favour, but we all just accept it and play. Take Day 1, when the weather was overwhelmingly in the bowler's favour. Why didn't they walk off the pitch and say we can't play, the conditions are unfair to the batsmen? No, they just accept it and play. It's the exact same with bad light. Switch to the pink ball, accept the benefits to the bowlers, just like baking sun benefits the batsmen, and just play the game.

Why is it the case though? I made a thread to discuss this topic but that doesn't seem to be getting much attention at the moment so let's just discuss it here. Why do you think the pink ball will help the bowlers when it is used at the same time period as the traditional cherry? The extra bit of swing the pink ball gets, as I understand it is mostly due to the late evening conditions. Apart from that I think the pink ball has some extra layers of lacquer to make sure it doesn't lose color, that can help the ball swing for a little longer, but it will also take away some reverse swing. But these problems can be remedied by making the pink ball exactly the same as the current red ball with the only difference being in the color of the ball itself. Swing seam, spin and bounce depend on the surface condition, height, shape and weight of the ball not on the color of the ball. Using a pink color dye instead of red shouldn't make any difference to the playing conditions except in visibility unless the ball is manufactured differently.
 
Why is it the case though? I made a thread to discuss this topic but that doesn't seem to be getting much attention at the moment so let's just discuss it here. Why do you think the pink ball will help the bowlers when it is used at the same time period as the traditional cherry? The extra bit of swing the pink ball gets, as I understand it is mostly due to the late evening conditions. Apart from that I think the pink ball has some extra layers of lacquer to make sure it doesn't lose color, that can help the ball swing for a little longer, but it will also take away some reverse swing. But these problems can be remedied by making the pink ball exactly the same as the current red ball with the only difference being in the color of the ball itself. Swing seam, spin and bounce depend on the surface condition, height, shape and weight of the ball not on the color of the ball. Using a pink color dye instead of red shouldn't make any difference to the playing conditions except in visibility unless the ball is manufactured differently.


I agree with this. They can manufacture it to be similar to the red ball and just change colour to something more obvious. In all honesty i don’t mind if the ball behaves totally different because at least we will get some cricket. The game will devolve into mediocrity if this issue continues
 
If they can play day night Test can surely play in bad light under lights

Just mutually agree to use pink ball
 
Seems like the most rational move to me. Test cricket is already a tedious affair, it cannot afford delays over something as ridiculous as bad light in the 21st century.

To be honest, England will always have this problem and its almost the way the game is played here
 
To be honest, England will always have this problem and its almost the way the game is played here

The problem isn't as much with the light itself, with stadium lighting available. The problem with the red ball is more to do with safety, it can't be picked up by umpires and fielders in the lights.

Pink ball would be much better/visible under lights, so you can play at night. Sunlight shouldn't be a factor
 
Only with significantly longer grass on the pitch.

The Aussies had a beautiful bat/ball balance at Adelaide, but their batsmen hated it.

So now they shave off all the grass and in the last pink ball Test they scored 589-3 and Yasir Shah - who had never even scored a fifty in 45 Tests - suddenly hit a century.
 
SHANE sees no disadvantages of using a pink cricket ball...

"I think they should be used. It’s not just here in England where we have trouble with bad light. If we lower the light level and use a pink ball, when the lights come on it is a lot easier to see. If that means a pink ball in bright sunshine during the day you can still see the ball easier. I reckon what all ball manufacturers should come up with is the best pink ball possible and the ICC says this is the one that holds up under all conditions and we are going to use this for Test cricket. The crowd will see it better and I think we will stay out there longer. At the moment, I think we are going off when it's not dangerous enough."
 
Waqar Younis was asked a few times about Pink ball :

"Test match cricket has been played like this in England for a long time and only one Test match has happened with a pink ball here; Pink ball cricket is still being played on a trial basis across the world to see if there aren't any problems because if this and it is able to generate revenues as well; Big runs were scored and seamers took wickets in the pink ball game in England but what needs to be seen is how the pink Duke ball will behave in this condition; It might do a bit too much as we saw in Australia when the lights came on, the ball used there moved around a bit too much; Strategies need to be changed and toss becomes important; So lots to consider but I feel its a very good idea and I personally feel that Test cricket can be played in the night time, people will adapt in the same way they adapted and adjusted to OD and T20 formats; From what I have seen of pink ball cricket, I feel it can work"

"Players, umpires have said that when artificial light completely takes over it becomes difficult to play as they have difficulty sighting the ball; However I feel play can continue unless light is really bad - I feel under certain artificial light conditions match should continue and the Test should be completed"
 
Pakistan should be using foresight and bring the pink ball into their domestic structure ASAP.

it will be huge disadvantage if they are required to play with a pink ball and none of them have any experience of it.
Even it means having to just practice in the nets for now, it is worth it so they have some understanding of the how the pink ball behaves
 
Australia spin legend Shane Warne on Thursday made a strong pitch for the pink ball to be used in all Test matches in place of the "pathetic" red cherry that offers "nothing" to the bowler.

The pink ball, as of now, is only used for Day/Night matches that became a part of the cricket in 2015.

"I've been saying this for the last few years. I believe the pink ball should be used in all Test matches. Day games, not just day-night games," Warne said on 'Fox Cricket'.

"The pink ball, you can actually see the ball easier, crowd can see the ball easier. It generally does more than the red ball and it looks fantastic on TV. So why not use a pink ball the whole time?

"Maybe change it at 60 overs because it goes soft, but I'd be using the pink ball for every Test match so more of it I would say," he added.

The Australian said the red ball doesn't swing much for the bowlers with the exception of the Dukes ball in England and gets soft very soon.

"No more red ball, it doesn't swing, it doesn't do anything, goes soft after 25 overs. It has been pathetic for so long now. Except for the Dukes ball in England, it has been rubbish."

"The pink ball can't be any worse than what the red ball has been for Test cricket. We haven't seen swing, we haven't seen seam. Absolutely nothing.

"So let's try the pink ball in Test cricket," he added.

India and Australia are involved in a Day-Night encounter at the Adelaide Oval as the four-Test series began Thursday.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ll-in-tests-says-legendary-shane-warne/696126
 
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