Is this election a win-win situation for PTI?

[Vegitto1]

The general impression being given, by all those who are in fear of a PTI, is that the establishment is backing PTI and will ensure their victory in the upcoming GE2018.

They point to circumstancial evidence such as the disqualification of Nawaz Sharif and the subsequent arrest of Nawaz Sharif, her daughter and son-in-Law.

The ECP has officially appointed army personnel at each polling station.

They also point to the disqualification and arrest of a number of PMLN candidates.

And to top it of, a CEO of a leading newspaper provided irrefutable evidence on the BBC programme, Hard-Talk, when he said that the evidence lies in the tweets of ISPR backed trolls.

So as it stands, the Deep-State is managing the elections to ensure a PTI victory. And history tells us that If the Deep-State wants you to win then you win. Therefore, if PTI wins then it’s due to the establishment.

However, what if PTI loses and PMLN wins? Will that mean that PMLN new leader and younger brother of the convict ex-Prime Minister has jumped into bed with the Establishment once again?

Will people finally give Imran Khan credit for achieving everything he has in his political career without Establishment help?

Will some posters here acknowledge that even if they were given 10 lives they could not achieve even 0.01% of what Imran Khan has achieved in one lifetime?

 

[Sirris]

The general impression being given, by all those who are in fear of a PTI, is that the establishment is backing PTI and will ensure their victory in the upcoming GE2018.

They point to circumstancial evidence such as the disqualification of Nawaz Sharif and the subsequent arrest of Nawaz Sharif, her daughter and son-in-Law.

The ECP has officially appointed army personnel at each polling station.

They also point to the disqualification and arrest of a number of PMLN candidates.

And to top it of, a CEO of a leading newspaper provided irrefutable evidence on the BBC programme, Hard-Talk, when he said that the evidence lies in the tweets of ISPR backed trolls.

So as it stands, the Deep-State is managing the elections to ensure a PTI victory. And history tells us that If the Deep-State wants you to win then you win. Therefore, if PTI wins then it’s due to the establishment.

However, what if PTI loses and PMLN wins? Will that mean that PMLN new leader and younger brother of the convict ex-Prime Minister has jumped into bed with the Establishment once again?

Will people finally give Imran Khan credit for achieving everything he has in his political career without Establishment help?

Will some posters here acknowledge that even if they were given 10 lives they could not achieve even 0.01% of what Imran Khan has achieved in one lifetime?

Good stuff.

I saw the interview and the evidence was compelling.

 

[Napa]

The general impression being given, by all those who are in fear of a PTI, is that the establishment is backing PTI and will ensure their victory in the upcoming GE2018.

They point to circumstancial evidence such as the disqualification of Nawaz Sharif and the subsequent arrest of Nawaz Sharif, her daughter and son-in-Law.

The ECP has officially appointed army personnel at each polling station.

They also point to the disqualification and arrest of a number of PMLN candidates.

And to top it of, a CEO of a leading newspaper provided irrefutable evidence on the BBC programme, Hard-Talk, when he said that the evidence lies in the tweets of ISPR backed trolls.

So as it stands, the Deep-State is managing the elections to ensure a PTI victory. <b>And history tells us that If the Deep-State wants you to win then you win.</b> Therefore, if PTI wins then it’s due to the establishment.

However, what if PTI loses and PMLN wins? <b>Will that mean that PMLN new leader and younger brother of the convict ex-Prime Minister has jumped into bed with the Establishment once again?</b>

Will people finally give Imran Khan credit for achieving everything he has in his political career without Establishment help?

Will some posters here acknowledge that even if they were given 10 lives they could not achieve even 0.01% of what Imran Khan has achieved in one lifetime?

The Deep State has Deep Influence but is not Omnipotent. I think there is a fair chance PMLN will sweep Punjab, the electorate responds negatively to being told how to think, Pakistanis included.

Win or lose, NS definitely does not have the Deep State on his side this time. In fact the two divorced way back in 1998.

 

[Vegitto1]

The Deep State has Deep Influence but is not Omnipotent. I think there is a fair chance PMLN will sweep Punjab, the electorate responds negatively to being told how to think, Pakistanis included.

Win or lose, NS definitely does not have the Deep State on his side this time. In fact the two divorced way back in 1998.

So if PMLN win then it’s a genuine victory but if PTI wins it’s because of deep-state involvement.

This is despite the fact that whenever the opportunity presented itself, PMLN runs to cut a deal with the Deep-State.

 

[moghul]

I don't get that. i am from Lahore and have been NS supporter for long, but now I'm supporting Imran Khan. I have not been approached by Army or "establishment" to change my mind. I'm sure millions and million of people are in my situation. So, Its not army, stupid.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Its quite the opposite.

Its a win win for pmln.

If they lose the election they will cry to the mountains it was an "army ki saazish".

If they win, they will say they won despite army ki saazish because the power of the vote won. Then they will claim to be saviors of Pakistan and do nothing but rack up the loans again for the next 5 years.

 

[yasir]

This is win for Army. Look at even PP, people who actual think Army is playing this whole game, are few and far. Pretty much same is true for rest of Pakistan. They do the cooking and politicians have to do the dishes

Once again they have successfully gone through this drama we call election, this time they have dethrone a major one and paved the way for decades of rule via new puppets. But with continuous failure of political system, question will eventually come, why it’s not working? so far they have dodge the bullet and blame the politicians successfully for 4 decades. People still think highly of them, all the blame is for politicians without making any key policies in this time

 

[Loralai]

This is win for Army. Look at even PP, people who actual think Army is playing this whole game, are few and far. Pretty much same is true for rest of Pakistan. They do the cooking and politicians have to do the dishes &#55357;&#56443;&#55357;&#56443;&#55357;&#56443;

Once again they have successfully gone through this drama we call election, this time they have dethrone a major one and paved the way for decades of rule via new puppets. But with continuous failure of political system, question will eventually come, why it’s not working? so far they have dodge the bullet and blame the politicians successfully for 4 decades. People still think highly of them, all the blame is for politicians without making any key policies in this time &#55358;&#56592;&#55358;&#56592;&#55358;&#56592;

Spot on [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] bhai. This is the truth and many will not wish to accept it.

 

[Mamoon]

The majority of people in Pakistan are still ignorant about the way the military runs the show from the background, but the awareness is increasing and social media is playing a big role as well.

You can restrict media when they say things you don’t want to hear, but you cannot ban social media.

If a miracle happens and PTI fails to win majority, it will be the greatest moment in the history of Pakistan’s democracy - a size 12 military boot in the face of the establishment and the politicians who are dancing to their tunes to come into power.

Nonetheless, even if PTI wins, I can foresee a bright future because in my opinion, the days of the “military badmashi” are numbered.

In a few decades, I think they will be reduced to nothing more than the guardians of the borders and will not be able to interfere in our internal affairs, just like how it happens in other democratic countries.

This election is a lose-lose situation for any PTI supporter who believes in democracy.

 

[babajee]

The majority of people in Pakistan are still ignorant about the way the military runs the show from the background, but the awareness is increasing and social media is playing a big role as well.

Can you explain?

 

[Loralai]

Can you explain?

They run the country and interfere in the politics of the state.

 

[Savak]

They run the country and interfere in the politics of the state.

Yes they made NS and his cronies have offshore accounts in Panama, buy the penthouses in the UK.

 

[PetroDollars]

your looking at the deep state but look at the bigger picture, what about the Deeper State (CIA/RAW backing PMLN)

 

[slipcatch]

Yes they made NS and his cronies have offshore accounts in Panama, buy the penthouses in the UK.

Army could have done nothing if it wasn't for Panama leak.

Nawas Sharif would be out and running for another term.

So the idea that Army some how planned this is just stupid. All Army did was looked the other way this time when Nawas Sharif asked for the help for the obvious reasons.

 

[slipcatch]

The majority of people in Pakistan are still ignorant about the way the military runs the show from the background, but the awareness is increasing and social media is playing a big role as well.

You can restrict media when they say things you don’t want to hear, but you cannot ban social media.

If a miracle happens and PTI fails to win majority, it will be the greatest moment in the history of Pakistan’s democracy - a size 12 military boot in the face of the establishment and the politicians who are dancing to their tunes to come into power.

Nonetheless, even if PTI wins, I can foresee a bright future because in my opinion, the days of the “military badmashi” are numbered.

In a few decades, I think they will be reduced to nothing more than the guardians of the borders and will not be able to interfere in our internal affairs, just like how it happens in other democratic countries.

This election is a lose-lose situation for any PTI supporter who believes in democracy.

Majority of the countries interfere in other countries politics, happens all over the world, nothing exclusive to Pakistan and those majority of the countries do not have military dictatorship. Lets not be naive.

So if PTI will you see a better future but if PTI win democracy lose? What are you talking about

 

[Abdullah]

Haha mamoon is predicting a pti clean sweep so he can say I told u so and adding it will be a kick in the teeth to army and pti f it doesn't happen.
Lol
Evrything right now points to a hung parliament so just calm your self down