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Is Umar Amin the best puller of the ball in Pakistan?

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You might remember his pull shot against Philander in South Africa.

And today.

Against Haris Rauf, bowling late 140s, he again pulled a six with so much ease against the short ball!

There was literally no effort involved.

I'm convinced he's the best batsman of short pitched bowling in Pakistan.

That was Ponting and Inzi'esque!!
 
When he attacks fearlessly he looks immensely pleasing to the eyes. Sadly gets dropped after 1-2 failures instead of a long run in the team
 
It's a crime that limited stroke makers have been given long runs and he is dropped after a few games.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] I'm sure you folks remember that pull shot in South Africa.

That was legendary.

Today was legendary again, unbelievable such a good player of pace and short pitch bowling hasn't been playing for us.
 
average of 33 in 8 innings in tests

average of 18 in 16 innings in odis

average of 16 in 9 innings in t20s


yes real injustice, the real injustice was done by himself by not performing when given the chances
 
Mediocre, club level cricketer. Last time I watched him he was so bad, broad and Anderson bullied him.
 
Oh boy, far far from it. He is terrible batsman like million others. Today they bowled him predictable lengths, was at see when attack on good length.

Sharjeel was best puller, rest cannot hand pace and bounce with any authority. Babar and Shaun are other two you can handle pace and bounce.
 
The Umar Amin of today would have massacred Duanne Olivier. Breath taking pull shots of Haris Rauf.

Already looks 10x better than Imam ul Haq referring to his strike rate and ability to handle fast bowling.
 
average of 33 in 8 innings in tests

average of 18 in 16 innings in odis

average of 16 in 9 innings in t20s


yes real injustice, the real injustice was done by himself by not performing when given the chances

Cricket, batting, and giving chances to new batsmen doesn't work like that.

You think it's a game of spreadsheet and sorting in descending order?

Besides, he was never given a consistent chance, those few matches were after long intervals and breaks.
 
The Umar Amin of today would have massacred Duanne Olivier. Breath taking pull shots of Haris Rauf.

Already looks 10x better than Imam ul Haq referring to his strike rate and ability to handle fast bowling.

imam has delivered at internatonal level

amin has failed at international level

imam fails in his debut t20 game while amin finally shows what his hype was all about

and suddenly umar amin is a world beater, lmao
 
:))) come on guys

He wouldn’t have made 50 if Saad Ali held on to a top edged pull shot off Rahat Ali. You guys get excited way too quickly.
 
The Umar Amin of today would have massacred Duanne Olivier. Breath taking pull shots of Haris Rauf.

Already looks 10x better than Imam ul Haq referring to his strike rate and ability to handle fast bowling.

Absolutely true.

Such a shame we haven't backed Amin. Babar and him can be our best batsmen in SA/Aus/England/NZ.
 
imam has delivered at internatonal level

amin has failed at international level

imam fails in his debut t20 game while amin finally shows what his hype was all about

and suddenly umar amin is a world beater, lmao

Let’s be real if Imam wasn’t Inzi’s nephew he wouldn’t have gotten a chance especially not this early on his career.

Amin technically is a lot better than imam, better balance, better stroke play and he’s a bigger hitter. Imam is a joke and he doesn’t deserve to play in any format.
Amin is the way forward
 
Cricket, batting, and giving chances to new batsmen doesn't work like that.

You think it's a game of spreadsheet and sorting in descending order?

Besides, he was never given a consistent chance, those few matches were after long intervals and breaks.

a player of his supposed calibre should have taken any chance that he got with both hands... like other players have, umar akmal, babar azam, haris sohail etc.

if he showed even a glimpse of potential he would have been a regular in the side
 
You might remember his pull shot against Philander in South Africa.

And today.

Against Haris Rauf, bowling late 140s, he again pulled a six with so much ease against the short ball!

There was literally no effort involved.

I'm convinced he's the best batsman of short pitched bowling in Pakistan.

That was Ponting and Inzi'esque!!

utter lies that delivery was 135 kph.:))):))

I did saw his brilliant pull when rahat ali bowl at him which was dropped at 3rd man
 
Let’s be real if Imam wasn’t Inzi’s nephew he wouldn’t have gotten a chance especially not this early on his career.

Amin technically is a lot better than imam, better balance, better stroke play and he’s a bigger hitter. Imam is a joke and he doesn’t deserve to play in any format.
Amin is the way forward

i agree but imam has delivered in the chances that he got whereas umar amin didn't.


umar amin did well today but let's not act like he was horribly treated, he got his chances and didn't do anything with them.


he looked really good today and i hope it continues so he can be selected and show his class internationally.
 
Let’s be real if Imam wasn’t Inzi’s nephew he wouldn’t have gotten a chance especially not this early on his career.

Amin technically is a lot better than imam, better balance, better stroke play and he’s a bigger hitter. Imam is a joke and he doesn’t deserve to play in any format.
Amin is the way forward

Imam didn't deserve to be selected in the first place, but he has gotten a lot better.

Amin was unfairly dropped after the NZ series where he played one game, but credit to Imam and Fakhar, they have the opening slot nailed down in ODIs.

Right now #3 slot is open in T20is, Amin can be given another chance there.
 
a player of his supposed calibre should have taken any chance that he got with both hands... like other players have, umar akmal, babar azam, haris sohail etc.

if he showed even a glimpse of potential he would have been a regular in the side

Nope, not every player starts averaging 50 from the start. Many batting greats would have never played more than 20-30 matches if that was the case!

He has shown those glimpses many many times, that's why he has support on this forum.

Only needs backing like Babar and Imam have gotten. Even though Imam is a far inferior batsman than Amin.
 
He lacks temperament and the ability to construct a long innings at international level. Have seen him getting out softly a lot of times. Still better to have in the side instead of Malik, Hafeez and maybe even Imam but he needs to perform consistently in the remaining matches which I do not think he will be able to do.
 
Nope, not every player starts averaging 50 from the start. Many batting greats would have never played more than 20-30 matches if that was the case!

He has shown those glimpses many many times, that's why he has support on this forum.

Only needs backing like Babar and Imam have gotten. Even though Imam is a far inferior batsman than Amin.

doesn't need to average 50 but certainly needs to average better than what he does currently in all 3 formats that he has played for pakistan.

those glimpses are nowhere to be seen at the international level.

again, imam took his chances, umar amin didn't.
 
i agree but imam has delivered in the chances that he got whereas umar amin didn't.


umar amin did well today but let's not act like he was horribly treated, he got his chances and didn't do anything with them.


he looked really good today and i hope it continues so he can be selected and show his class internationally.

He was horribly treated! Taken on tours and played one game and then he gets dropped for 2 years and ge cycle repeats itself.
He was a heavy domestic scorer in test & ODI recently. Against SL A a couple years back, him and Shan were the top scores and look where Shan is now.

He deserves a go and a long rope.

Babar Azam is exactly what Amin could’ve been if everyone backed him.
 
imam has delivered at internatonal level

amin has failed at international level

imam fails in his debut t20 game while amin finally shows what his hype was all about

and suddenly umar amin is a world beater, lmao

Then how did Shan Masood outperform Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali?

If you failed in 2010 it doesn't mean you cannot improve or comeback.

At this very moment Umar Amin looks a lot better than Imam who still gets bogged down in ODI cricket.
 
He is not called classy left hander for nothing, he IS classy. Only he needs some mental strength and self confidence otherwise he is one of the best batsmen in Pakistan.
 
He was horribly treated! Taken on tours and played one game and then he gets dropped for 2 years and ge cycle repeats itself.
He was a heavy domestic scorer in test & ODI recently. Against SL A a couple years back, him and Shan were the top scores and look where Shan is now.

He deserves a go and a long rope.

Babar Azam is exactly what Amin could’ve been if everyone backed him.

no, you know who was horribly treated? fawad alam

amin didn't take his chances..

but all of that is in the past

if he continues to play the way he did tonight then he'll be a great addition.
 
He was horribly treated! Taken on tours and played one game and then he gets dropped for 2 years and ge cycle repeats itself.
He was a heavy domestic scorer in test & ODI recently. Against SL A a couple years back, him and Shan were the top scores and look where Shan is now.

He deserves a go and a long rope.

Babar Azam is exactly what Amin could’ve been if everyone backed him.

I;m not saying its not their own fault but both Umars ( Amin and Akmal ) could have been treated better by Misbah.
 
Then how did Shan Masood outperform Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali?

If you failed in 2010 it doesn't mean you cannot improve or comeback.

At this very moment Umar Amin looks a lot better than Imam who still gets bogged down in ODI cricket.

because of hardwork and determination.

agreed

yes at the moment, but let's not act like he's been the saviour we never selected, he never took his chances when he was selected.

he did well tonight and hopefully he continues to play the way he did tonight.

yes the man of the series of the recently concluded south african series is much inferior to a player that finally made his mark after 10 years of hype in a domestic t20.
 
Pakistan should have invested in Umar Amin and Umar Akmal rather than Azhar Ali and Shafiq.

Umar Amin is clearly one of the top 5 batsman in Pakistan against pace in red ball cricket and has always been technically sound.

Misbah and Waqar were awful when it came to player development and management, so no surprises over their choices.
 
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Pakistan should have invested in Umar Amin and Umar Akmal rather than Azhar Ali and Shafiq.

Umar Amin is clearly one of the top 5 batsman in Pakistan against pace in red ball cricket.

Misbah and Waqar were awful when it came to player development and management, so no surprises over their choices.

agreed, there was something to work with in amin back then and nurture his talent along with umar akmal.

you need the right type of people with player management skills to fully make use of these type of players


but this is pakistan we're talking about where players who have never played a domestic game in their life suddenly look like better bowlers than the national team bowlers. (haris rauf)
 
He was horribly treated! Taken on tours and played one game and then he gets dropped for 2 years and ge cycle repeats itself.
He was a heavy domestic scorer in test & ODI recently. Against SL A a couple years back, him and Shan were the top scores and look where Shan is now.

He deserves a go and a long rope.

Babar Azam is exactly what Amin could’ve been if everyone backed him.

He was never any where near Babar and never will be. In ODIs, Amin averages 18 in 16 innings :facepalm:. His list A average is 36 which is Imamesque.
 
Who can forget that pull shot against Philander , only chance as an opener and never returned because he is not Afridi's buddy... But he had a few chances where he could've nailed down his place in the team, but he is that one of those players if fail will be discarded lightning fast unlike UA and AS because they dont have any one backing them..

For no reason he was dropped from the T20 after a good last game...
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] I'm sure you folks remember that pull shot in South Africa.

That was legendary.

Today was legendary again, unbelievable such a good player of pace and short pitch bowling hasn't been playing for us.

He has never looked bad. Unfortunately, he has never scored in international cricket either. There are massive question marks on his mental capacity and the PSL is no platform to put the demons to rest. He will get his chance in international cricket at some point over the next 2-3 years, so the onus is on him to deliver.
 
Who can forget that pull shot against Philander , only chance as an opener and never returned because he is not Afridi's buddy... But he had a few chances where he could've nailed down his place in the team, but he is that one of those players if fail will be discarded lightning fast unlike UA and AS because they dont have any one backing them..

For no reason he was dropped from the T20 after a good last game...

good grief, is this how low our standards are now? we're going crazy over a single shot?

in that case imran nazir played shots against even better bowlers back in his day, should we cry a river about him as well?

he had chances from to showcase his skills but failed to get even one major score under his belt.
 
good grief, is this how low our standards are now? we're going crazy over a single shot?

in that case imran nazir played shots against even better bowlers back in his day, should we cry a river about him as well?

he had chances from to showcase his skills but failed to get even one major score under his belt.

imran nazir got chances after chances and dropped when he is not good enough unlike Amin where he was given chance to open the innings once in SA and never given again... Mentioned on another where he and Hammad were consistently made the scapegoats for the failures of the seniors MISBAH, HAFEEZ, AFRIDI and MYK..
 
From an analyst a few months ago:

Domestic numbers.jpg

Umar Amin's domestic numbers are inflated by region bashing.
 
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imran nazir got chances after chances and dropped when he is not good enough unlike Amin where he was given chance to open the innings once in SA and never given again... Mentioned on another where he and Hammad were consistently made the scapegoats for the failures of the seniors MISBAH, HAFEEZ, AFRIDI and MYK..

hammad? wth? :))

umar amin failed to impress in the chances he got... if he performed even in one of the many innings he would have been a regular in the side.

he has a chance now to make his mark for selection, let's hope he makes full use of it
 
hammad? wth? :))

umar amin failed to impress in the chances he got... if he performed even in one of the many innings he would have been a regular in the side.

he has a chance now to make his mark for selection, let's hope he makes full use of it

Hammad in his debut made a match winning partnership with MISBAH to win the game where the other batsmen failed against a mediocre WI bowling attack...

If u talk about him now, he has become another hack...
 
Hammad in his debut made a match winning partnership with MISBAH to win the game where the other batsmen failed against a mediocre WI bowling attack...

If u talk about him now, he has become another hack...

that was 8 years ago

he never worked hard or improved his play

he's only regressed
 
You might remember his pull shot against Philander in South Africa.

And today.

Against Haris Rauf, bowling late 140s, he again pulled a six with so much ease against the short ball!

There was literally no effort involved.

I'm convinced he's the best batsman of short pitched bowling in Pakistan.

That was Ponting and Inzi'esque!!

Pulling Philander is not so hard, but that pull shot was just wow, the sound off the bat 😍.

I think the best is Babar. Sharjeel was also brilliant and then I will have Umar Amin.
He is such a classy batsman and pleasing to the eye.
It’s a shame that Azhar Ali, Asad Shafik have played 60 odd ODI’s and him just 16. And never given a proper go to play 10 matches in a row.

I rate batsmen who play good bowlers well and he is one of them. Doesn’t need to wait for the 5th-6th bowling option to come to score.

The backfoot drives were brilliant today!
 
Better innings today than any the other Umar has played so far
 
Mentally weak. Will always look good, but never amount to much. Got bullied by someone as mediocre as Seth Rance in NZ. That says it all really.
 
agreed, there was something to work with in amin back then and nurture his talent along with umar akmal.

you need the right type of people with player management skills to fully make use of these type of players


but this is pakistan we're talking about where players who have never played a domestic game in their life suddenly look like better bowlers than the national team bowlers. (haris rauf)

If Haris Rauf can maintain this, will be interesting to see if PCB decide to fast track him like they did with Shaheen. That is a big call to make with the WC 4-5 months away. I feel we need a right arm back up to Hasan Ali.
 
Not even close. Easily Babar and Shan right now. Sharjeel, when he played.

They've all pulled the fastest bowlers on the fastest tracks and made it look easy. Amin would be a sitting duck.
 
Easily. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you have to be blind to not see how classy this guy is. Annihilated Qalandars single handedlly today on a pitch players with bigger names like Kami couldn’t do anything in either. One of his best innings to date.

Where is he in the Pakistan squad? Absolutely have to take him to Australia or settle again for 3-2 type loss and moral victories. We need some real victories and need to start selecting real players instead of fraudia.
 
Easily. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you have to be blind to not see how classy this guy is. Annihilated Qalandars single handedlly today on a pitch players with bigger names like Kami couldn’t do anything in either. One of his best innings to date.

Where is he in the Pakistan squad? Absolutely have to take him to Australia or settle again for 3-2 type loss and moral victories. We need some real victories and need to start selecting real players instead of fraudia.

Suleiman my man you're right on target!
 
Seeing a Pakistani pull like would be even more pleasing nowadays with the likes of Imam, Azhar and co getting out so easily to the short ball in SA in the Tests and even in the ODIs. :(
 
Hold up.. didn't he get out to a pull shot off the Rahat Express? Best puller? Maybe in the nightclubs perhaps, not sure on the cricket field.

All jokes aside, hats off to him he did have a good game today and played with fluency albeit against a very easy target.

His problem as many have pointed out is the mental game, a bit of maturity and emotional intelligence training (if there is such a thing) might help him.
 
He's just a great shot player all round the wicket. When he's in the groove he looks a million dollars, but for some reason he's under performed when wearing the green shirt. Him and Umar Akmal look a class above the players who have been playing for Pakistan recently, but they just don't perform consistently.
 
He's just a great shot player all round the wicket. When he's in the groove he looks a million dollars, but for some reason he's under performed when wearing the green shirt. Him and Umar Akmal look a class above the players who have been playing for Pakistan recently, but they just don't perform consistently.

Players like him need a long run at international cricket to succeed unfortunately he has not been able to play even a full series. Scapegoat of Eng series on most challenging wickets. He was always recalled against quality teams only to be dismissed after one failures. Really Pathetic that some minnow bashers like Asif keep on getting selected while players like him are roating in domestic cricket.

My hate for Misbah is only extreme because he never nurtured young promising talent and was obsessed with ttfs.
 
He was horribly treated! Taken on tours and played one game and then he gets dropped for 2 years and ge cycle repeats itself.
He was a heavy domestic scorer in test & ODI recently. Against SL A a couple years back, him and Shan were the top scores and look where Shan is now.

He deserves a go and a long rope.

Babar Azam is exactly what Amin could’ve been if everyone backed him.
Thank god I am not the only one who witnessed unfair treatment to Amin. Misbah was one of the main culprits.
 
Sadly we ( Misbah, mainly ) wasted this very talented cricketer, had he been treated well, would have been the mainstay of Pakistan's batting. He still has lots of cricket left in him.
 
utter lies that delivery was 135 kph.:))):))

I did saw his brilliant pull when rahat ali bowl at him which was dropped at 3rd man

I was about to say the same..
His yesterday knock was good but there is no need to be overexcited about that. Its a long tournament, lets see how he performs in future matches.
 
Not even close. Easily Babar and Shan right now. Sharjeel, when he played.

They've all pulled the fastest bowlers on the fastest tracks and made it look easy. Amin would be a sitting duck.

This. Looks like PPers themselves haven't watched PAK tour of SA otherwise they wouldn't have named Amin ahead of Shan and Babar.
 
Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad and now Umar Amin. Is someone trying to remind us that even though our batting lineup is poor, it could be a lot worse?
 
Just how pleasing was his strokeplay yesterday! It was easily thus far the most classic innings of this PSL, easily. Sublime timing to go with excellent placement. Just loved his pulls and those drives and cuts off the back-foot. However, have been seeing him in and out of the national team multiples times the recent years. He never does any justice to the opportunities given to him and gets stuck into a hole from where he can neither rotate the strike and nor hit boundaries. So I´m not convinced yet. He has to do a lot more to be back in the team. As for him being the best puller, can´t say much on that either because I´ve hardly ever seen Amin bat well. However, yes, yesterday he was the best in the business.
 
that was 8 years ago

he never worked hard or improved his play

he's only regressed


Pls do a search on how they were selected and dropped series after series year after year..

Misbah’s era was a nightmare of any youngster. Loss of form or didn’t perform for 2 -3 games will be discarded lightning quick.

By the formula of MISBAHs period by now even BABAR, FAKHAR would have been dropped from ODI team for lack of form and after 2 months will be forgotten for few years.

The consistency shown by SARFRAZ, INZI and MICKEY in this regard is remarkable
 
Just how pleasing was his strokeplay yesterday! It was easily thus far the most classic innings of this PSL, easily. Sublime timing to go with excellent placement. Just loved his pulls and those drives and cuts off the back-foot. However, have been seeing him in and out of the national team multiples times the recent years. He never does any justice to the opportunities given to him and gets stuck into a hole from where he can neither rotate the strike and nor hit boundaries. So I´m not convinced yet. He has to do a lot more to be back in the team. As for him being the best puller, can´t say much on that either because I´ve hardly ever seen Amin bat well. However, yes, yesterday he was the best in the business.

Good overall balanced post!

Yep yesterday was truly special, all he needs now is selection and then backing like Imam is getting. Who's far inferior.
 
Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad and now Umar Amin. Is someone trying to remind us that even though our batting lineup is poor, it could be a lot worse?

Shehzad has looked hopelessly out of touch, so most people are ridiculing him at this time, but yes he was a better bat technically than the likes of Talat, Asif or Malik. The game isn't just about nice shots though, and he had way too much regard for his own ability.

Umar Amin and Akmal are playing well so far in this tournament, and as someone who likes to see proper cricket shots rather than desperate sloggers who miss the ball more often than they connect, I am pleased to see it.
 
Good overall balanced post!

Yep yesterday was truly special, all he needs now is selection and then backing like Imam is getting. Who's far inferior.

He still needs to show what he is made off but Amin is a several leagues better than baqwas Talat and Asif.
 
I m surprised why he doesn't succeed in international matches with this crystal clear technique.

His stroke making is pleasing to the eye.
 
Fantastic knock last night!

I think the Amir Sohail comment about Umar Akmal in regards to God gifted talent should also apply to him. The guy needs to do justice to his talent!
 
I m surprised why he doesn't succeed in international matches with this crystal clear technique.

His stroke making is pleasing to the eye.

Sometimes the player has judgement issues, sometimes it's just playing a good knock at the right time. Fakhar Zaman has played some match winning knocks for Pakistan, but since he's got more exposure to top international teams his flaws are being exploited more as in South Africa. A pre-meditated slogger is never likely to keep performing at the highest level, you need batsmen who can play through the line.
 
He still needs to show what he is made off but Amin is a several leagues better than baqwas Talat and Asif.

Bakwas? Ugh, no, that's a strong word.

Talat has good potential too and he has already shown it. Will come good.

Asif deserves few more chances and he can be the game changer at the end. There's no other hitter in PAK right now.

Amin is a top order player, complete stroke maker and can't be compared to Asif.
 
He still needs to show what he is made off but Amin is a several leagues better than baqwas Talat and Asif.

You can compare Amin with Imam or Talat, but Asif has a different role.

These days only U. Akmal could be compared to Asif and his ability.
 
Sharjeel was really good, as are Hafeez and Masood. Babar isn't too bad either.
 
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