Is Usman Khawaja already the greatest ever Asian batsman to represent a non-Asian country?

[Mesozoic]

maybe do bother to read the West Indies players being labelled as Indian expats before commenting

Dude there was a time when I actually loved to read your posts. Don't know what happened to you recently. It's all lies and brain dead statements one after another.

Noone in this thread has labelled any West Indies players as indian expats. Saying Chanderpaul is of Indian descent is quite different from saying he's an Indian expat.

 

[Major]

Dude there was a time when I actually loved to read your posts. Don't know what happened to you recently. It's all lies and brain dead statements one after another.

Noone in this thread has labelled any West Indies players as indian expats. Saying Chanderpaul is of Indian descent is quite different from saying he's an Indian expat.

as long as i will talk in favor of India you will love it. Its personal biasness basically. India ke tareef karun = good psoter, India ko critisize kardo = bad poster.

You need to go and read page of this thread, trinidadian players being mentioned by Indian posters only show the insecurities here

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

as long as i will talk in favor of India you will love it. Its personal biasness basically. India ke tareef karun = good psoter, India ko critisize kardo = bad poster.

You need to go and read page of this thread, trinidadian players being mentioned by Indian posters only show the insecurities here

Well said. Some of my fellow Indian fans try to downplay India vs Pakistan rivalry and put India vs Australia above that. It is pretty hard for them to digest that someone from Pakistan is playing for Australia and he is doing pretty well.

 

[Mesozoic]

as long as i will talk in favor of India you will love it. Its personal biasness basically. India ke tareef karun = good psoter, India ko critisize kardo = bad poster.

You need to go and read page of this thread, trinidadian players being mentioned by Indian posters only show the insecurities here

Lol it's not about criticism or sucking up. Just the general quality and logic behind your posts have gone down the gutter recently. No offence, just my opinion.

And coming to the second part, this thread was created in 2016 when Khawaja was still nowhere near as good as he is now. You can clearly see the Indian posters as well crediting him in the recent posts. But somehow you still took offence.

 

[Major]

Lol it's not about criticism or sucking up. Just the general quality and logic behind your posts have gone down the gutter recently. No offence, just my opinion.

And coming to the second part, this thread was created in 2016 when Khawaja was still nowhere near as good as he is now. You can clearly see the Indian posters as well crediting him in the recent posts. But somehow you still took offence.

you took offence, i just pointed out the hypocrisy.

GO read page 3 of the thread and you will see the responses.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Anyways, this thread is pointless. Khawaja is by far the best south Asian immigrant player and it's not even close.

There's nothing to discuss here.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If Usman Khwaja played for India, he would be regarded as another Rayudu. And here some are considering him as the greatest Asian origin batsman for a non Asian team.

not aged well

 

[Major]

Aa gaya Abdullah beech main deewana ban ke..

Instead of taking pride in a Pakistani performing well for another nation, you should ask yourselves why these Khawajas ,Imran Tahirs and Sikander Razas are being forced to move away from your country.

forced?

Now that shows your prejudice.....

Khawaja's dad was from the upper middle class and moved with family to Australia. Its not like Khawaja went their for cricket specifically. He was born in Islamabad and than moved.

Sikander Raza's family moved to Zimbabwe, while Sikander was still a teenager. He infact learned the game at a late age that to in England due to his university.

Imran Tahir was a Pakistan A bowler. He knew that a spinner had more demand in England and South Africa and took his chances there. Pakistan already had 3 spinners and 3 more in the pecking order. He took his chances and became a South African legend.

Plus, his wife was also South African.

So no one was forced out.

you proved my point, an Indian that finds the logic in my post when i praise India, but my logic is off when i criticize Mother india.

you may take offence for all i care

 

[James]

Guy is an inspiration tbh

Not easy being of South Asian descent and making yourself a mainstay of the great Australian Test team.

Just imagine growing up watching cricket in 2005 when Australia were at their peak. A lot of South Asian kids would never have thought someone from their background would ever get in to a team like Australia and actually belong their.

This isn’t a great Australian Test team. Khawaja wouldn’t get anywhere near the great Australian Test team of the 2000s.

Nonetheless, he has been in really good touch over the last couple of years. He was heading for a mediocre career but his numbers are very impressive now.

He will be up there when he’s done

Completely agree. I didn’t rate him earlier in his career and in some Ashes series in England he was basically a walking wicket. But he’s improved massively as a player since then and has also been resilient through a number of spells out of the Australia team. He’s proved me entirely wrong. Very impressive chap and seems like a nice guy as well.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think he is the greatest Asian batter to represent a non-Asian country.

He played 60+ Tests for Australia. Averaging around 50.

 

[Mesozoic]

forced?

Now that shows your prejudice.....

Khawaja's dad was from the upper middle class and moved with family to Australia. Its not like Khawaja went their for cricket specifically. He was born in Islamabad and than moved.

Sikander Raza's family moved to Zimbabwe, while Sikander was still a teenager. He infact learned the game at a late age that to in England due to his university.

Imran Tahir was a Pakistan A bowler. He knew that a spinner had more demand in England and South Africa and took his chances there. Pakistan already had 3 spinners and 3 more in the pecking order. He took his chances and became a South African legend.

Plus, his wife was also South African.

So no one was forced out.

you proved my point, an Indian that finds the logic in my post when i praise India, but my logic is off when i criticize Mother india.

you may take offence for all i care

Unsurprisingly, the meaning of 'forced' in my post went right over your head.

I think you've exhibited enough proof of my assertion already. Have a good day!

 

[light]

maybe do bother to read the West Indies players being labelled as Indian expats before commenting

I've read them, nothing to do with triggered, rather trolling is the word you're looking for ...

 

[MenInG]

Another gritty fifty by Usman Khawaja

 

[Major]

wins a motm.

but for a few Indian fans, ravi rampaul is probably the best Asian player from a non Asian country

 

[BunnyRabbit]

One of the best openers in test cricket currently as well. He has toughened up mentally and just enjoying his game at this stage of his career. Wonderful player.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Still Amla for me, no idea how people in this thread seem to have completely forgotten about him. Great in Tests, very good in LOIs also unlike Khwaja

 

[daytrader]

Usman speaking to reporters after his Player of the match award.

"As a youngster I had to bat a long time to score runs. I was little, I didn’t have too many shots, so I learnt how to bat a long time from a young age,"

"Today was tough because I just wanted to take it deep.

"Little Uzzie inside of me was saying, ‘You can expand now, you can get into second or third gear now’, but I was like ‘no, no take it deep, take it as far deep as you can’.

"Because I knew if we could get into that last hour and had less than 100 runs we could get it, but if we lost too many wickets early that was game over for us.

"So I actually wanted to go a lot harder than I did in the last hour and a half I was in, I wanted to start playing more shots.

"But I kept fighting with myself, it was just about building partnerships.

"I guess I did bat a long time today and I’ve done that before but I’m like any batsman, I like to score runs, so today was a bit of a mind-tussle for me."

"The other day, the crowd was so loud I had no idea," "Today there was nothing much in it. Just a bit of friendly banter. This game was played in pretty good spirits for most of it.

"It’s not just about winning, it’s about how we win, which has changed a lot from past years I played cricket.

"I think the game was played in pretty good spirit … There wasn’t much in it."

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Still Amla for me, no idea how people in this thread seem to have completely forgotten about him. Great in Tests, very good in LOIs also unlike Khwaja

Amla is as Asian as Steyn is European. Amla is just a colored South African. Khawaja is by far the best Asian player representing a non-Asian team.

 

[MenInG]

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[jnaveen1980]

wins a motm.

but for a few Indian fans, ravi rampaul is probably the best Asian player from a non Asian country

He is better than any current Pakistan batsman definitely. Helped his side win against England in England where as Pakistan lost 0-3 to the same England at home.

 

[Major]

He is better than any current Pakistan batsman definitely. Helped his side win against England in England where as Pakistan lost 0-3 to the same England at home.

and he has a test championship which India has failed to win twice

 

[Sidilicious]

Not yet. Amla is still number 1 and then Rohan Kanhai. He has been doing well latel, but we are talking about a career, not a phase. He needs to keep this up for another 3-4 years

 

[jnaveen1980]

and he has a test championship which India has failed to win twice

Yes. But they beat Australia 4 test series in a row. It did have Khawaja.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not yet. Amla is still number 1 and then Rohan Kanhai. He has been doing well latel, but we are talking about a career, not a phase. He needs to keep this up for another 3-4 years

If it is merely by birth then Colin Cowdrey

 

[jnaveen1980]

Once the player leaves his country and learns everything overseas then he cannot be considered "Asian batsman". He is an Australian batsman. He went to Austarlia when he was 4. So not sure how he can be an "Asian batsman". Imran Tahir is the proper example of someone who hailed from Pakistan system and represented a different country.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Not yet. Amla is still number 1 and then Rohan Kanhai. He has been doing well latel, but we are talking about a career, not a phase. He needs to keep this up for another 3-4 years

None of the above are Asian, they are colored South African and Carribbean respectively. People don't call Steyn/Kallis European

Khawaja is by far the best Asian to represent a non-Asian country.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Once the player leaves his country and learns everything overseas then he cannot be considered "Asian batsman". He is an Australian batsman. He went to Austarlia when he was 4. So not sure how he can be an "Asian batsman". Imran Tahir is the proper example of someone who hailed from Pakistan system and represented a different country.

He's still an immigrant, as his Tahir.

 

[topspin]

The daarhi/molvi loving type will say Amla.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Rohan Kanhai


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Hashim Amla

 

[Adijazz1706]

The daarhi/molvi loving type will say Amla.

It's clearly Amla even if you are clean shaven

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Not yet. Amla is still number 1 and then Rohan Kanhai. He has been doing well latel, but we are talking about a career, not a phase. He needs to keep this up for another 3-4 years

Amla and Kanhai? Did you check their birth place?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Once the player leaves his country and learns everything overseas then he cannot be considered "Asian batsman". He is an Australian batsman. He went to Austarlia when he was 4. So not sure how he can be an "Asian batsman". Imran Tahir is the proper example of someone who hailed from Pakistan system and represented a different country.

Really? Why are some fans taking Amla's and Kanhai's name then? They were not even born in India lol.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Is there really a competition?
Are we talking about race or place of birth?

Were amla or kanhai even born in india?

And btw usman only lived in pakistan for first 4 years of his life , he learnt and played all his cricket in australia. He is an australian. Asian term should only be valid if the played played some cricket in place of his birth and then migrated to other country.

 

[Rana]

They all become ‘Australian’ or ‘English’ all of a sudden

None of you guys who are saying this actually understand what it means to be a person of South Asian heritage growing up in the cricket culture of England and Australia.

 

[TheSultan]

Does Hashim Amla count? If so, then he is

 

[Rana]

Does Hashim Amla count? If so, then he is

Amla also had it a lot easier for him due to the quota system.

No way would he have been allowed to play as long as he did to become that prime world class batsman he eventually became had he been Australian or English. He was one of the best coloured batsmen in South Africa and SA had to continue picking him if they wanted the right balance with the talented white players

 

[Saj]

They mentioned this on commentary today:

"See ball and early and play ball late"

That is exactly what he does.

Great technique for the swinging ball.

 

[Fenrir]

Khawaha has played more dot balls than combined dot balls by England top six.Occupying the crease for long times means the opposition bowlers get tired so later batsmen find it easier(unless they throw away their wickets).England got the best bowling conditions Khwaja has been very valuable for his team.

 

[pillionrider]

I believe this will soon belong to Rachin Ravindra. And he will achieve it looking beautiful.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

A milestone for Khawaja but he needs to retire now
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Usman Khawaja becomes the 16th Australia batter to score 6,000 Test runs