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Russian, Chinese, Iranian and Pakistani intelligence directors met in Islamabad to discuss regional cooperation to combat the Islamic State in Afghanistan.

The meeting was held in Pakistan and included the participation of Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) under the Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) directorate and was attended by senior officials from Pakistan, Russia, Iran and China, Sergei Ivanov, Spokesperson for SVR was quoted as saying by TASS Tuesday.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/22907/ISI_Organizes_Russian__Chinese__Iranian_Spy_Chiefs_Meet_in_Pakistan#.W0YkAtIzbIV

http://tass.com/world/1012616

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/07/11/russian-chinese-iranian-spymasters-discuss-daesh-with-isi-dg/

https://eurasiantimes.com/iran-china-pakistan-russian-intelligence-chiefs-meet-discuss-isis/
 
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Seems like ISI's asset the Taliban is starting to get nervous about the growth of the Islamic State in Afghanistan. If anyone can beat the fundamentalists in the long term, it is someone who is even more extreme.

You should thank Pakistan try to eliminate ISIS before it reaches India. As history is witness, Indians don’t do well when it is invaded.
 
Seems like ISI's asset the Taliban is starting to get nervous about the growth of the Islamic State in Afghanistan. If anyone can beat the fundamentalists in the long term, it is someone who is even more extreme.

The US has tried to use the Islamic State card in order to expand its lifetime in the region, but looks like the ISI has outsmarted them, and now has convinced the Russians, Chinese and Iranians (who apparently are training the "best" Taliban fighters) to actually keep the Talibans as "the better of the two" option, the IS being of course worse because it doesn't talk of non Islamic powers.

The recent Eid ceasefire has also vindicated the idea that, like the Karzai govt and unlike its own earlier stance, the Ghani govt. too is ready to talk with the Talibans.
 
Russian, Chinese, Iranian and Pakistani intelligence directors met in Islamabad to discuss regional cooperation to combat the Islamic State in Afghanistan.

The meeting was held in Pakistan and included the participation of Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) under the Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) directorate and was attended by senior officials from Pakistan, Russia, Iran and China, Sergei Ivanov, Spokesperson for SVR was quoted as saying by TASS Tuesday.

Not really.

Here is the real story:
https://indianexpress.com/article/i...han-suicide-bomber-sent-to-hit-delhi-5254357/

Indian intelligence infiltrated Islamic State ring to track, arrest Afghan suicide bomber sent to hit Delhi
The operation included the Indian “plant” supplying the IS operative with explosives — without triggers — and even arranging for his accommodation in the capital.
Written by Ritu Sarin | New Delhi | Updated: July 11, 2018 9:16:28 am
Indian intelligence infiltrated IS ring to track, arrest Afghan suicide bomber sent to hit Delhi
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The IS operative, who lived in New Delhi in the guise of an engineering student, was flown to Afghanistan days after he was arrested and is, at present, understood to be in custody at a key US military base in Afghanistan.
In an audacious counter-intelligence operation, unprecedented in its scale and scope, Indian security agencies infiltrated an Islamic State ring to thwart a bid by an IS Afghan suicide bomber to strike New Delhi.

The operation included the Indian “plant” supplying the IS operative with explosives — without triggers — and even arranging for his accommodation in the capital.

The arrest by Indian agencies happened in New Delhi around September 2017 but it’s only now that top diplomatic and intelligence sources have confirmed details to The Indian Express.

The IS operative, who lived in New Delhi in the guise of an engineering student, was flown to Afghanistan days after he was arrested and is, at present, understood to be in custody at a key US military base in Afghanistan.

In fact, so “high value” is this Afghan bomber that his confessions and interrogations are seen as one of the possible reasons behind the string of successes achieved recently by US forces against the Taliban in Afghanistan, sources said.

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The arrest by Indian agencies happened in New Delhi around September 2017 but it’s only now that top diplomatic and intelligence sources have confirmed details to The Indian Express.
Sources have told The Indian Express that an 18-month-long surveillance operation in Afghanistan, Dubai and New Delhi yielded intelligence that a group of 12 IS operatives were being sent after training in Pakistan to carry out bomb attacks in the region.

One of them, an Afghan national in his mid-twenties and the “son of a wealthy businessman,” was given New Delhi as his target for a suicide attack.

Sources said that as part of his undercover “mission,” he got himself admitted to a private engineering college on the outskirts of the capital, along the Delhi-Faridabad highway. Initially, he lived in the college hostel but, sources said, he subsequently rented a ground-floor apartment in Lajpat Nagar,

As many as 80 Indian investigators and security personnel had to be deployed for “physical surveillance” during the peak one-month period of the operation to ensure that the target was never out of sight and did not slip away, sources said.

There is an indication, from his questioning, that the suicide bomb attack in the Manchester arena in UK on May 22, 2017, killing 23 people, could have been triggered by a member of the same IS group which included the Afghan picked up from New Delhi.

Sources said that the type of explosives he demanded in New Delhi were similar to the ones used in the Manchester blast.

There is information that the IS operation began with sleuths of the Research & Analysis Wing (R&AW) tracking a suspicious transfer of $50,000 by individuals under their watch from Dubai to a location in Afghanistan and then linking the dots with intelligence shared by US about New Delhi being a possible target in the near future for an IS strike.

It was at this stage that a decision was taken to infiltrate the IS circuit. With a flow of telephone intercepts giving away details of the arrival of the bomber in New Delhi, a suitable candidate was picked for befriending the Afghan.

Sources said that the Indian operative was the one who located the Lajpat Nagar safehouse for the Afghan, though initially a third-floor place was arranged, this was later changed to a ground-floor apartment.

This Indian agent was finally tasked by the IS to arrange for explosives for the New Delhi strike at which stage, a multi-agency surveillance ring was thrown around the Lajpat Nagar house, sources said.

It is now known that the IS saboteur visited the Delhi Airport, Ansal Plaza mall, a Vasant Kunj mall as well as the South Extension market, may be among other places in New Delhi, as reconnaissance for the strike.

Constant feedback was being given by him to his handlers in Afghanistan.

Another twist to the dramatic early-morning swoop was the fact that the consignment of explosives and improvised devices was delivered to the Afghan by the Indian without any triggers as the ultimate subterfuge.

Those in the know of the ensuing interrogation of the IS bomber picked up from New Delhi say that besides Indian counter-intelligence experts, US agents also joined the interrogation. Sources said his confessions have helped US forces strike at many Taliban targets in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
 
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You should thank Pakistan try to eliminate ISIS before it reaches India. As history is witness, Indians don’t do well when it is invaded.

True that. But they don't name their missiles after the Invaders who raped and pillaged their lands either...Whoops!
 
You should thank Pakistan try to eliminate ISIS before it reaches India. As history is witness, Indians don’t do well when it is invaded.

The part of India which succumbed to invaders is now Pakistan. The part of India which was able to recover from invasions is now India :))
 
The US has tried to use the Islamic State card in order to expand its lifetime in the region, but looks like the ISI has outsmarted them, and now has convinced the Russians, Chinese and Iranians (who apparently are training the "best" Taliban fighters) to actually keep the Talibans as "the better of the two" option, the IS being of course worse because it doesn't talk of non Islamic powers.

The recent Eid ceasefire has also vindicated the idea that, like the Karzai govt and unlike its own earlier stance, the Ghani govt. too is ready to talk with the Talibans.

The idea is to have the Taliban and ISIS fight each other so that they both are weakened. Right now the Taliban is stronger, but they have been out of power from 16 years. Their followers are a bit fatigued. If the ISIS is given weapons by the CIA, then they can hurt the Taliban.

The CIA has already worked with the ISIS in Syria to oppose Russia, so it is very likely they will again cooperate with ISIS in Afghanistan.
 
The idea is to have the Taliban and ISIS fight each other so that they both are weakened. Right now the Taliban is stronger, but they have been out of power from 16 years. Their followers are a bit fatigued. If the ISIS is given weapons by the CIA, then they can hurt the Taliban.

The CIA has already worked with the ISIS in Syria to oppose Russia, so it is very likely they will again cooperate with ISIS in Afghanistan.

I don't think the US helps ISIS directly or indirectly in Iraq, even if it does indirectly in Syria. In Afghanistan I think it's more of the Iraqi scenario, but I read in some research article that ISIS grounding in Afghanistan is not really organic, but just some disillusioned ex Talibans who vent their frustration by joining the newer franchise, and it's all very "tribal". Talibans on the other hand are an encapsulated reality in Afghanistan, and that's the reason the Ghani govt. has found necessary to discuss with them.
 
I don't think the US helps ISIS directly or indirectly in Iraq, even if it does indirectly in Syria. In Afghanistan I think it's more of the Iraqi scenario, but I read in some research article that ISIS grounding in Afghanistan is not really organic, but just some disillusioned ex Talibans who vent their frustration by joining the newer franchise, and it's all very "tribal". Talibans on the other hand are an encapsulated reality in Afghanistan, and that's the reason the Ghani govt. has found necessary to discuss with them.

As soon as ISIS in Afghanistan becomes a bit successful, you can be assured that US arms will flow to it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. After 16 years (the longest war in US history), the US is running low on options on how to beat the Taliban.
 
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I don't think the US helps ISIS directly or indirectly in Iraq, even if it does indirectly in Syria. In Afghanistan I think it's more of the Iraqi scenario, but I read in some research article that ISIS grounding in Afghanistan is not really organic, but just some disillusioned ex Talibans who vent their frustration by joining the newer franchise, and it's all very "tribal". Talibans on the other hand are an encapsulated reality in Afghanistan, and that's the reason the Ghani govt. has found necessary to discuss with them.

Like you said, the division between the Pashtun tribes into ISIS and Taliban is tribal. Tribes can be bought off by money and weapons. As a British general said over a hundred years ago, better than fighting the Pashtuns is to buy them off.

The last person who was able to "pacify" Afghanistan by war was Genghis Khan whose policy was to chop off the head of all conquered males above a certain height. The rest were enslaved. Obviously the US is not going to follow that policy.
 
The part of India which succumbed to invaders is now Pakistan. The part of India which was able to recover from invasions is now India :))

Came, reverted and form their own nations years after due to experienced, expected and continued intolerance in the largest democracy. I’m sure Indian do not want to be broken into many more pieces.
So be polite and send a Thank you note, soon.
 
Came, reverted and form their own nations years after due to experienced, expected and continued intolerance in the largest democracy. I’m sure Indian do not want to be broken into many more pieces.
So be polite and send a Thank you note, soon.

Read a bit of history before saying things like "As history is witness, Indians don’t do well when it is invaded" which make you come across as ignorant. Entire Eurasia the last few thousand years have been in chaos, with every country being conquered. If you think that the Muslim empires were invulnerable, then read about how the Mongols sacked present day Iran and Iraq. Every empire had its period of dominance followed by a long spell of decline.

The most successful conquerors in history are the Indo-Europeans, who spread from the east of India to the west of America.
 
Read a bit of history before saying things like "As history is witness, Indians don’t do well when it is invaded" which make you come across as ignorant. Entire Eurasia the last few thousand years have been in chaos, with every country being conquered. If you think that the Muslim empires were invulnerable, then read about how the Mongols sacked present day Iran and Iraq. Every empire had its period of dominance followed by a long spell of decline.

The most successful conquerors in history are the Indo-Europeans, who spread from the east of India to the west of America.

I think i've hit the nerve, haven't I, professor Historian?

I understand why you had to bring in other empire.

I haven't said anything about other empire nor I have said anything that would or should make you assume my knowledge on history unless you are a psychic?

History is witness, Indian don't do well when it is invaded. Since you have validated that statement by giving example of other conquered region by different empire then their is nothing more to discuss.

Now go ahead, tell us, how bad Pakistani army is and how bad it is for the people of Pakistan. Can't wait.
 
I think i've hit the nerve, haven't I, professor Historian?

I understand why you had to bring in other empire.

I haven't said anything about other empire nor I have said anything that would or should make you assume my knowledge on history unless you are a psychic?

History is witness, Indian don't do well when it is invaded. Since you have validated that statement by giving example of other conquered region by different empire then their is nothing more to discuss.

Now go ahead, tell us, how bad Pakistani army is and how bad it is for the people of Pakistan. Can't wait.

The simple point which you seem to fail to understand is that no country does well if invaded. The only modern country that hasn't been invaded is the US, but they too are descendants of North Europeans who were invaded and conquered repeatedly by the Romans, Genghis Khan, Attila etc.

Anyway, why as a Pakistani are you even speaking of India being invaded? Your country was invaded by India in recent times and the 95,000 soldiers promptly surrendered and gave up half the country super quick.
 
Don't worry! ISI just wanted to have dinner with some foreigners:yk
 
The simple point which you seem to fail to understand is that no country does well if invaded. The only modern country that hasn't been invaded is the US, but they too are descendants of North Europeans who were invaded and conquered repeatedly by the Romans, Genghis Khan, Attila etc.

Anyway, why as a Pakistani are you even speaking of India being invaded? Your country was invaded by India in recent times and the 95,000 soldiers promptly surrendered and gave up half the country super quick.

Sure. All True.

Indian don’t do well when their country is invaded.

Kindly send a Thank you note.
 
The simple point which you seem to fail to understand is that no country does well if invaded. The only modern country that hasn't been invaded is the US, but they too are descendants of North Europeans who were invaded and conquered repeatedly by the Romans, Genghis Khan, Attila etc.

Anyway, why as a Pakistani are you even speaking of India being invaded? Your country was invaded by India in recent times and the 95,000 soldiers promptly surrendered and gave up half the country super quick.

And, also don’t forget to blame the Army of Pakistan for Pakistan and India.
 
You should thank Pakistan try to eliminate ISIS before it reaches India. As history is witness, Indians don’t do well when it is invaded.

Thank you Pakistan for trying eliminate ISIS, if wasnt for you we would have been invaded by ISIS. Indians were trembling their feet at the thought of an invasion from ISIS :yk2...
 
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