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There are five teams. Everyone on here complains about 'where are the youngsters'.

But it's truly horrible that only one side - Islamabad United - is consistently giving chances to emerging players and is the side that's played the most number of young emerging players.

Not only that - the folks ISLU picked and played are quality, ruling the PSL among rest of the emerging young talent at the PSL:

1. Shadab - the best spinner
2. Talat - Excellent bat + decent bowler
3. Rumman Raees - clever T20 bowler
4. Amad Butt - another potentially good allrounder, but in poor form

Teams like Peshawar Zalmi had only Asghar, and they did not even play him for majority of the tournament!

I think Karachi also has 2-3 emerging youngsters.

Why others are not as open when it comes to picking up and grooming upcoming talent?

I recall Misbah admiring and promoting Shadab, Amad etc. in one interview recently.
 
Rayyman said:
Since when is Raees emerging, but Hasan Ali isn't?
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Um, nobody knows Rummas has played any matches for Pak. A few T20s don't count. Hasan Ali is a permanent member of our squads and recently had a good full tour.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
More like forced to give chances after the oldies failed. Misbah must've been heartbroken.
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Keep hating. No wonder Lahore can't even dream of picking up a good number of emerging youngsters. Keep losing.

And the amount of hate for the guy who actually is the only one promoting upcoming young talent is hilarious here. :))
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] pointed this out as well - the only team playing youngsta beauties is ISLU.

Haters do the propaganda and others blindly follow it.
 
Hawkeye said:
Um, nobody knows Rummas has played any matches for Pak. A few T20s don't count. Hasan Ali is a permanent member of our squads and recently had a good full tour.
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Okay, so a 25 year old fast bowler is an emerging player...LOL
 
Islamabad United has played the most number of U25 players compared to other teams

Alot of people are always bashing Islamabad for playing 35+ players, but many of you often overlook the fact that this same team is also playing more youngsters then any other team has played.

They have played 5 under 25 players in this season alone. The most by any other team.

Amad Butt
Rumman Raees
Shadab Khan
Hussain Talat
Asif Ali

these are 5 young players who have managed to get a game from their franchise.

Number of u25 aged players that have played in PSL 2 till now

Karachi Kings: Babar Azam, Abrar Ahmed
Lahore Qalanders: Mohammad Rizwan, Ghulam Mudassar
Peshawar: Hasan Ali, Mohammad Asghar
Quetta: Mohammad Nawaz, Mir Hamza, Hasan Khan


No other team has played more then 2 u25 players. The most has been by Quetta who has played 3. However, United has played 5.
 
Hawkeye said:
Keep hating. No wonder Lahore can't even dream of picking up a good number of emerging youngsters. Keep losing.

And the amount of hate for the guy who actually is the only one promoting upcoming young talent is hilarious here. :))
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] pointed this out as well - the only team playing youngsta beauties is ISLU.

Haters do the propaganda and others blindly follow it.
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Repeating the same thing won't make it true. We all know Misbah prefers experience over youth. Selecting Rifatullah is another classic example.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Repeating the same thing won't make it true. We all know Misbah prefers experience over youth. Selecting Rifatullah is another classic example.
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Repeating false rhetoric won't change the fact Misbah is the only one preferring and giving chances to the most number of youngsters, among the entire PSL.

The only team actually promoting Pak talent.
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] - classic example of blind hatred for the guy - too much propaganda on here by a few.
 
I agree with this, there's a double standard on the part of many posters here.

Yes I agree IU shouldn't have so many 30+ year old players. However IU are made out to be this team that persecutes youngsters yet Shadab Khan has been one of their leading lights this PSL. Rumman Raees has played consistently. Hussain Talat has come in late but was still given a shot at 3 today. And they've also given Amad Butt a few games.

Zalmi meanwhile have sidelined one of our brightest young spinners in Mohammad Asghar for the majority of this PSL. Khushdil Shah hasn't played one match. The only young player consistently in their XI is Hasan Ali and he's already established in the team.

But there's hardly a peep. If Misbah was captaining Zalmi there'd be a thermonuclear explosion on here.
 
Hawkeye said:
Repeating false rhetoric won't change the fact Misbah is the only one preferring and giving chances to the most number of youngsters, among the entire PSL.

The only team actually promoting Pak talent.

[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] - classic example of blind hatred for the guy - too much propaganda on here by a few.
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What's he supposed to do when all the oldies have let him down? I can imagine the frustration.
 
Markhor said:
I agree with this, there's a double standard on the part of many posters here.

Yes I agree IU shouldn't have so many 30+ year old players. However IU are made out to be this team that persecutes youngsters yet Shadab Khan has been one of their leading lights this PSL. Hussain Talat has come in late but was still given a shot at 3 today. And they've also given Amad Butt a few games.

Zalmi meanwhile have sidelined one of our brightest young spinners in Mohammad Asghar for the majority of this PSL. Khushdil Shah hasn't played one match. The only young player consistently in their XI is Hasan Ali and he's already established in the team.

But there's hardly a peep. If Misbah was captaining Zalmi there'd be a thermonuclear explosion on here.
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Good post. Last line though. :))) :))) :kakmal

I'm not sure why some posters go to great lengths to lie and spread false accusations against Misbah.

Bhai bhains chori ki thee Misbah nay tumhari jo jhoot boltay ho? :baelish
 
Markhor said:
I agree with this, there's a double standard on the part of many posters here.

Yes I agree IU shouldn't have so many 30+ year old players. However IU are made out to be this team that persecutes youngsters yet Shadab Khan has been one of their leading lights this PSL. Rumman Raees has played consistently. Hussain Talat has come in late but was still given a shot at 3 today. And they've also given Amad Butt a few games.

Zalmi meanwhile have sidelined one of our brightest young spinners in Mohammad Asghar for the majority of this PSL. Khushdil Shah hasn't played one match. The only young player consistently in their XI is Hasan Ali and he's already established in the team.

But there's hardly a peep. If Misbah was captaining Zalmi there'd be a thermonuclear explosion on here.
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Correction, more like 40+, it must be Genius Book of World Record to have that many 40+ playing, they were short of one, Misbah called Rifatullah :acp
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Zalmi is not a good standard, they have Afridi...

PSL will not be successful if even the foreign players are mostly 35+, this looks pretty bad, its tarnishing the legacy of Pakistan, we used to be the front runner in introducing kids to international, now we lead in keeping oldest babas at international level... Talk about falling from standards :facepalm:
 
I think some just don't want to accept the truth that the guy they don't like is actually the one promoting emerging talent and youngsters.

So, a false campaign is started - and the reality won't be acknowledged.
 
He was forced.

Lahore is the best in giving talent a chance. Irfan, Fakhar, Yamin, now Ghulam.

Love how [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] is so desperate to hype King up, he didn't even consider Usama Mir for Karachi or Irfan for Lahore in U25.
 
Zalmi has been pathetic though.

Brave move to slot in Talat at #3 honestly didn't expect this
 
Zalmi
Hasan Ali - Asghar has barely played. Not giving a chance to Khushdil or Irfan (Pathetic)

Karachi
Usama Mir - Another team obsessed with TTFs just like Zalmi


Lahore
Fakhar, Rizwan, Muddasir, Irfan Jnr, Yamin (Easily the best team when it comes to playing the younger players and should be appreciated for that)


Quetta
Hasan Khan, Mir Hamza, Mohammad Nawaz, (They are trying at least)


Islamabad

Ammad, Shadab, Talat (Played TTF for the majority of the tournament)




Only Lahore deserve any praise followed by Quetta. The rest have been a joke when it comes to promoting the younger players.
 
Hawkeye said:
Keep hating. No wonder Lahore can't even dream of picking up a good number of emerging youngsters. Keep losing.

And the amount of hate for the guy who actually is the only one promoting upcoming young talent is hilarious here. :))
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] pointed this out as well - the only team playing youngsta beauties is ISLU.

Haters do the propaganda and others blindly follow it.
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I do agree, as I mentioned few days back - IU picked few oldies (But truth is their oldies like Sami & Irfan are performing, while Misbah is successful as Captain) & their 2 Aussie recruits will walk into PAK team at even 40. Apart from Imran Khalid & this Rafat guy, IU actually has played 4/5 young players. Had they played Talat at first when SK was sent home, IU actually had been the best team on promoting youngsters. However, Misbah can't avoid the blame of sending Shadab too low & debuting Talat too late.
 
In terms of promoting youngsters (I must confess that till last week I had very little clue about the squad & I hardly watch PSL in week days) out of 10, this is my marking -

IU - 6/10
QG - 5/10
LQ - 5/10
KK - 0/10
PZ - negative

IU has actually played 3/4 U23 players regularly. They are losing points for - 1. not promoting younger players in match, that's batting order, bowling preference, 2. Picking Rafat when they should have picked a younger guy, 3. Sending Babar back

QG has done decent in picking younger players, but they have goofed up in their initial draft - no way one should have selected Zulfi & Gul when there are several younger options left. While, not playing Amin is disgraceful as they are constantly playing Asad & Anwar.

Apparently, LQ looks like promoting young players, but to me they are not doing a better job than QG. Because Rizwan, Yamin & Fakhar shouldn't be considered as young players. One is PAK International for 2/3 years & other 2 are in odd half of 20s. Irfan/Mudassar are statuary picks, so no credit while they are losing big points for not giving a single match to Gohar (?)

KK is the most popular (I am going by the City population size), most expensive & most high profile side. They have collected some of the most sterling names of PSL - Gayle, Sanga, Mahela, Pollard, Amir, Mian, Babar, Imad, Bopara ..... probably that's the reason they are struggling at the bottom as these stars don't need to perform on field for their status. KK has done pathetically when it comes to youngsters - haven't picked much & hardly has given chance to any younger player. I won't consider Babar & Imad as youngster as they are PAK regulars while Mir is in between, but for that they have dropped Shahzaib, which is a shame, considering what Gayle is doing.

PZ is a disgrace if I am polite. They are a team with my soft support because of the 2 BD players, but what they have done is simply unacceptable, particularly for a team owned by Javed Afridi. First, they got an undue favor - Hasan Ali should never be listed as an emerging player after a year in PAK colors - but instead of using that as an advantage (that's getting an emerging player in XI, who would have made it automatically), they have denied the best young performer of last year. May be, one reason is Sammy - non Asian Captains are not that confident to use young spinners, but Khushdil should have got couple of games at least. Not playing Asghar is a crime, for which they should be fined - that;s why negative from me.

One interesting observation for PSL owners, as I see it with my eyes - in terms of star power, the most un-fancy 2 sides are IU & QG, who has promoted most youngsters in my ranking & they are almost certain to make the top 2 in eliminators (& they made the last years final as well), while the 2 sides that are lowest in my ranking in this regard (promoting youngsters) are facing only elimination spot.

If this doesn't open eyes for PSL owners, I don't think ever PSL's average age will come down below 30.

Few days back I asked for a PAK only team of PSL rejects - no one looked interested. If I take out foreigners, I do believe that a PAK U23 team (May be few over 23 players) will make the top 2 spots of a PAK only PSL - that's what my honest assessment of PSL, when it comes to promoting youngsters as a whole.
 
The PSL franchises are not charities that they will hand out starting spots to youngsters at will.

The youngsters have to make the most of the few chances they will get to PROVE that they deserve to play on a consistent basis.
 
How is IU promoting youngsta beauties when the only players in their playing XI aged <33 yesterday were Hussain Talat, Shadab and Rumman Raees? And that their captain leads from the front, aged 43 :facepalm:
The extent of blind oversight on the part of OP, in face of discrepant facts, is astounding.
Infact, the thread title shouldve read: "Islamabad United. The only PSL side giving chances to Gramps."
 
Major said:
Alot of people are always bashing Islamabad for playing 35+ players, but many of you often overlook the fact that this same team is also playing more youngsters then any other team has played.

They have played 5 under 25 players in this season alone. The most by any other team.

Amad Butt
Rumman Raees
Shadab Khan
Hussain Talat
Asif Ali

these are 5 young players who have managed to get a game from their franchise.

Number of u25 aged players that have played in PSL 2 till now

Karachi Kings: Babar Azam, Abrar Ahmed
Lahore Qalanders: Mohammad Rizwan, Ghulam Mudassar
Peshawar: Hasan Ali, Mohammad Asghar
Quetta: Mohammad Nawaz, Mir Hamza, Hasan Khan


No other team has played more then 2 u25 players. The most has been by Quetta who has played 3. However, United has played 5.
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aren't Usama Mir, Usman Shinwari, Muhammad Amir, Babar azam, Abrar Ahmed under 25

ek dho teen chaar paanch...
 
This is the interesting bit. Not only have IU picked the most emerging players but they have also performed, unlike most other teams' players. You may ask why? Well, in my opinion, these youngsta beauties are in the company of guys like Misbah, Watto, Haddin, Ajmal, Badree, Smith and others. They learn from them and being in such company gives them confidence. I'm sure Shadab has had a lot to learn from Badree and I've noticed he's bowling very similarly to the best Twenty20 spinner in the world.

You can judge IU all you want. But there's a reason they are the best team of both seasons..
 
Gotta salute ISLU and Misbah for unearthing so many quality talents.

The best of them is obviously Shadab Khan! Last year, Sharjeel got a permanent spot in national side because of ISLU and PSL.

:salute
 
Hawkeye said:
Gotta salute ISLU and Misbah for unearthing so many quality talents.

The best of them is obviously Shadab Khan! Last year, Sharjeel got a permanent spot in national side because of ISLU and PSL.

:salute
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They need to put in Shadab at #4 or #5.

Rumman Raees is also very good.
 
Hamzakhalid said:
They need to put in Shadab at #4 or #5.

Rumman Raees is also very good.
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Raees is decent but choked under pressure. :/

I agree, Shadab needs to bat up. I'm not sure who we should kick out from the top order though - Smith, Duckett, who?
 
Hawkeye said:
Raees is decent but choked under pressure. :/

I agree, Shadab needs to bat up. I'm not sure who we should kick out from the top order though - Smith, Duckett, who?
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Yes but Rumman also went for only 2 runs in second last over in very last match which IU Won and that effort was made better by Sami.

Duckett is going out anyways I think with Pooran coming in or Badree.

Ajmal needs to be dropped.
 
Hawkeye said:
There are five teams. Everyone on here complains about 'where are the youngsters'.

But it's truly horrible that only one side - Islamabad United - is consistently giving chances to emerging players and is the side that's played the most number of young emerging players.

Not only that - the folks ISLU picked and played are quality, ruling the PSL among rest of the emerging young talent at the PSL:

1. Shadab - the best spinner
2. Talat - Excellent bat + decent bowler
3. Rumman Raees - clever T20 bowler
4. Amad Butt - another potentially good allrounder, but in poor form

Teams like Peshawar Zalmi had only Asghar, and they did not even play him for majority of the tournament!

I think Karachi also has 2-3 emerging youngsters.

Why others are not as open when it comes to picking up and grooming upcoming talent?

I recall Misbah admiring and promoting Shadab, Amad etc. in one interview recently.
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VERY SORRY to burst your bubble but Islamabad United has been sort of forced to play these youngsters due to certain circumstances that no other team has had to face and that is factor of Sharjeel & Khalid Latif being banned from PSL after just one game... Irfan was made to sit out the next game as well.. So they had to give debut to Shadab Khan - and he grabbed his chance with both hands in his 2nd outing...

By the way, IU replaced these banned duo with a 40+ years old Rafatullah Mohmand - and he was given a nod ahead of Talat - only in 2nd/3rd last match of the league Talat was given his debut and thankfully he grabbed the chance with both hands and the 40 yr old was dropped. Had Talat failed to score alot, he would have been dropped in favor of seniority...

So just do not try to make up stories... IU have been forced to make changes - and the young emerging talent has grabbed the chance with both hands...
 
Credit where credit is due.

IU were the ones to pick Shadab up and gave him opportunities.

well done on that front.
 
cricwiz said:
VERY SORRY to burst your bubble but Islamabad United has been sort of forced to play these youngsters due to certain circumstances that no other team has had to face
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Apology accepted. :shezzy

1. Were they bitten by a crazy dog that they ended up selecting so many emerging players in the squad? And that too, the best of the lot? Forget about playing them!

2. Why other teams didn't pick all these youngsters? You can't play them if you don't pick them. :sarf

3. They've been playing youngsters for the majority of the tournament, unlike ALL other teams. Their winning has had the same pattern from the start - win one, lose one.

Where's logic? :najam
 
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Hawkeye said:
Apology accepted. :shezzy

1. Were they bitten by a crazy dog that they ended up selecting so many emerging players in the squad? And that too, the best of the lot?

2. Why other teams didn't pick all these youngsters?

3. They've been playing youngsters for the majority of the tournament, unlike ALL other teams. Their winning has had the same pattern from the start - win one, lose one.

Where's logic? Or do you want to be sorry again? :najam
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When someone does not want to understand logic, no one can make him do so...

No other team had to replace so many LOCAL senior players... tell me one team that had to replace the domestic players (the ones who were part of their regular/preffered XI)? - had Sharjeel & Khalid been there - only Shadab Khan out of the lot would have been given the chance at max ..

They had to play youngsters from 2nd game as their 2 main players were banned... and their 1st choice players from the bench i.e. Asif Ali, Imran Khalid & Saeed Ajmal were unable to perform AT ALL

Your apologies accepted mean that it was after all a BUBBLE :rp
 
3 young/emerging players in a knockout.

Would've been 4 players today had Talat not gotten injured! Amazing.
 
Mobashir said:
Used Ahmad Butt amazingly! Wow I am in awe in front of this captain.
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Why would he need to use amad here??? When everything is going perfectly for you in a semi final, why change it up? Their job is to win the game not try out talent. I rate Amad but Misbah hasn't done anything wrong here
 
Mobashir said:
Used Ahmad Butt amazingly! Wow I am in awe in front of this captain.
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aliasad1998 said:
Why would he need to use amad here??? When everything is going perfectly for you in a semi final, why change it up? Their job is to win the game not try out talent. I rate Amad but Misbah hasn't done anything wrong here
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Well, islu's success and youngsters contributing obviously isn't going down as a pleasant thing for the haters. :najam

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