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WASHINGTON: Hatred and discrimination against Muslims has risen to "epidemic proportions," UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned on Wednesday.
Guterres described skyrocketing anti-Muslim bigotry as part of a wider shift globally toward nationalism, and away from minority rights.
"A resurgence in anti-Muslim bigotry is certainly in-line with other distressing trends we are seeing globally: a resurgence in ethno-nationalism, neo-Nazism, stigma and hate speech targeting vulnerable populations including Muslims, Jews, some minority Christian communities, as well as others," Guterres said at a UN event marking the Commemoration of the International Day to Combat Islamophobia.
But Prays are part of schools in the UK? Have you not heard of Jewish, Catholic and Islamic schools. Or like all these guys your problem isnt prays, its the Muslims.I agree with Birbalsingh .. school is a place for study, not prayer.
But Prays are part of schools in the UK? Have you not heard of Jewish, Catholic and Islamic schools. Or like all these guys your problem isnt prays, its the Muslims.
I agree with Birbalsingh .. school is a place for study, not prayer.
I am just curious as to why what is being done during a school break in the playground is now being so strictly martialled by Birbalsingh.
Why do you think she banned it ?
I don't know, that is why I said I am curious. I am smelling whiffs of Priti Patel/Braverman fudge brownie aromas but could be mistaken.
Any Indian origin person who doesn't cater to your sensibilities is deemed a brownie. You should probably be a bit more open-minded rather feel offended 24/7.
You don't seem to know the law. This is only an issue because its Muslim kids and people are scared that Muslims actually believe in their religion, where other groups mostly couldn't care less.But this is not a Jewish, Catholic or Islamic school .. do you not know the difference ?
You don't seem to know the law. This is only an issue because its Muslim kids and people are scared that Muslims actually believe in their religion, where other groups mostly couldn't care less.
"Section 70 of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 stipulates that pupils of community, foundation or voluntary schools in England and Wales must take part in a daily act of Collective Worship, unless they have been explicitly withdrawn by their parents
A girl came to me and said I am a Muslim, she was giggling away and saw this like a choosing a meal from Maccies. I said fine. Point being that most of the kids doing it are looking for a reaction. It's not a problem and if others feel intimidated by Muslim kids, then I would lock up those doing the intimidation .Think religious conversion of school kids who are not old enough to make a decision is the reason. As you said work in school, so I am sure you are aware of it as it is widespread across UK.
Why do my sensibilities matter in this discussion? I said I am curious as to why Birbalsingh is being championed in the press, you gave no opinon and asked what I thought so I told you. There can always be alternative views and you are welcome to provide some if you have any.
You don't seem to know the law. This is only an issue because its Muslim kids and people are scared that Muslims actually believe in their religion, where other groups mostly couldn't care less.
"Section 70 of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 stipulates that pupils of community, foundation or voluntary schools in England and Wales must take part in a daily act of Collective Worship, unless they have been explicitly withdrawn by their parents
It's not a problem and if others feel intimidated by Muslim kids, then I would lock up those doing the intimidation .
My view is - it is a non-religious school and it gets great academic results; and Birbalsingh does not want the distraction or additional hassle of combating any religious polarisation.
Btw it wasn't one girl with the mat. It was one initially .. it then grew to about 30-40 mats in the playground during the break.
You know that is rubbish. For a start to wudhu in school means no bodily function for nearly 6 hours. Can the uncommitted really do that. We do it our school and 95% don't.Other muslims kids in this school were being shamed into joining the mat-prayer-kids apparently.
But it's law. Have they changed the law and can you give me a reference.Department of Education announced that it stopped enforcing this rule in 2004. (as per wikipedia)
My view is - it is a non-religious school and it gets great academic results; and Birbalsingh does not want the distraction or additional hassle of combating any religious polarisation.
Btw it wasn't one girl with the mat. It was one initially .. it then grew to about 30-40 mats in the playground during the break.
This what they can't answer.What kids do during lunch breaks should be none of the anyone's concern, unless a law is being broken.
Although it seems by enforcing ad hoc bans which affect the Muslim pupils she is actually causing the polarisation. As far as I know Sikh kids aren't banned from wearing turbans so this secular angle seems at best selective.
But it's law. Have they changed the law and can you give me a reference.
It's the law, and it will only be lame duck when it's changed. The reason you and others use these terms is when you are caught with pants down. This is her attempt to get popular with DM reading crowd that are angry after public backed the Palestinians over the Israelis. The prays are a proxy war, its easy to accommodate and hurts no one. If anyone causes problems, she can kick them out.Law still exists. But tis a lame duck law that nobody enforces.
Btw the law says collective worship of non-faith schools should be Christian in nature from what I've read.
If that was the case then the Police need to deal with it. No doubt we have losers in our community that love trouble as well but no sane person with kids in that school would threaten a bombs. Other schools have had bomb and very few are Muslims.She didn't create it, she was reacting to polarisation. Frome the Times article -
"During this period, Coppel said that the school and its teachers were subject to online abuse. One teacher had a brick thrown through their window and a bomb threat was sent to the school."
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School prayer ban challenge being funded by legal aid
Michaela school, founded by Katharine Birbalsingh, is being sued by a Muslim pupil who claims restrictions on praying are discriminatorywww.thetimes.co.uk
The prays are a proxy war, its easy to accommodate and hurts no one. If anyone causes problems, she can kick them out.
Basically Gove and others wanted to use a model seen mostly in Scandinavian countries. They are effectively Private schools within the public sector to allow people to create a culture and tailor their curriculum ( within reason) to their ideology. Some like this school have been an amazing success and I have a lot of respect for what she has done for the ambitious from the low income groups. The biggest beneficiaries have been the Muslim community, so this is a fight she didn't need to pick and we didn't need. But we live in an era of culture wars and she wanted to show who is boss.I dont understand the concept of free schools. Perhaps @Bewal Express you can explain more.
Is it not some Tory scheme to get people to set up their own schools?
Anyway I've had a read about the school and the headmistress policies and stances are quite clear. There is a reason why the school does so well - its because she has an uncompromising approach and enforcing boot camp style discipline.
Parents will know before enrolling that its her way or the high way but they are probably swayed by the success of the school.
If I was in their position, knowing the headmistress style and policies I would take my kid out and go to a local school. That's the best way to respect the head and also respect the religion
So the law will decide if she was right or wrong. My school doesn't provide a pray mat, I actually do it. They can pray in my room and the school has had no issues. Respect to all those that keep Wudhu for nearly 5 hours.The 9 yr old girl did cause a problem. She was told she can pray, but prayer mats are not allowed in school. Instead of listening, she created a fuss and later decided to sue the school.
Basically Gove and others wanted to use a model seen mostly in Scandinavian countries. They are effectively Private schools within the public sector to allow people to create a culture and tailor their curriculum ( within reason) to their ideology. Some like this school have been an amazing success and I have a lot of respect for what she has done for the ambitious from the low income groups. The biggest beneficiaries have been the Muslim community, so this is a fight she didn't need to pick and we didn't need. But we live in an era of culture wars and she wanted to show who is boss.
That's why I am confused. She has done wonders inner London and Muslims have benefited. She wants to be political and be part of the culture war taking place against Muslims but it was battle that no one needed to fightSeems to me that in a school which has
If she wants to show who's boss that's fine but then the ban should be extended to Sikhs wearing turbans. More than 50% of her pupils are Muslim, and let's give some credit to them for doing well also. I don't think she should be alienating her pupils and their parents for the sake of winning brownie points with the DM crowd.
That's why I am confused. She has done wonders inner London and Muslims have benefited. She wants to be political and be part of the culture war taking place against Muslims but it was battle that no one needed to fight
You know as well as I that this was aimed at the Muslims. Did she ban the Turban?She banned prayer rituals of all religions, not just Islam.
She banned prayer rituals of all religions, not just Islam.
In a school which just happens to have over 50% Muslim pupils.
So what ? Are they entitled to special treatment because they've touched the 50% mark ?
Are Sikhs entitled to special treatment. Wearing a Turban is an act of worship. The desperation to get at Muslims on non issues creates divisions for political narratives but does no one any good.So what ? Are they entitled to special treatment because they've touched the 50% mark ?
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Muslim woman allegedly attacked in London, Ont.
Police have confirmed an investigation is underway after online reports of an alleged attack on a Muslim woman in London.
The National Council of Canadian Muslims and Hikma Public Affairs Council have both released statements on social media regarding the reported incident.
Hikma stated the woman was wearing a hijab and was with her children at the time.
Although no location in the city is known, Hikma said, “The attack [was] by an assailant who was armed with a knife and shouting racist, Islamophobic and anti-Palestinian threats.”
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London man charged with attack on Muslim women
The National Council of Canadian Muslims and Hikma Public Affairs Council have both released statements on social media regarding the reported incident.london.ctvnews.ca