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Hate crimes against Muslims in London have risen by 70% in the past year, according to Met Police statistics.

Figures for the 12 months up to July showed 816 Islamophobic crimes, compared with 478 for the previous 12-month period.

Tell MAMA, an organisation that monitors Islamophobic attacks, claimed women were the primary targets.

The group told Inside Out London women wearing a face veil were victims of more "aggressive incidents".

The Met define Islamophobic crime as any offence intended to affect those known or perceived to be Muslim. Reported incidents ranged from cyber-bullying and assaults to extreme violence.

One of the highest increases was in Merton, south west London, which saw a rise from eight incidents in the year to July 2014 up to 29 in the subsequent 12-month period - an increase of 263%.

The borough with the highest number of incidents in the year 2014-15 was Westminster, which had 54 Islamophobic crimes, according to Scotland Yard's figures.
'Targeted abuse'

Tell MAMA said about 60% of Islamophobia victims were women.

Fiyaz Mughal, director of the organisation, said: "We realised that at a street level Muslim women who were visible, and wore the Hijab or the headscarf, were suffering more targeted abuse.

"We also realised quite early on that women who wear Niqab, the face veil, suffered more aggressive incidents - there was something about the face veil that in a way brought out the worst in the perpetrator."
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Media caption With fears growing that Islamophobic hate crimes are on the rise, the BBC's religious affairs correspondent Caroline Wyatt exposes the reality of daily life for some women living behind the veil

The charity said female victims often avoided contacting the police because they feared it could make matters worse.

The Met does not have a breakdown of the gender of victims of Islamophobic crime but said they believed the overall increase in attacks were due to "improved methods of recording crime".

Cdr Mak Chishty, the force's lead for hate crime, said: "There are a number of reasons why Muslim women are targeted more than men.
'No choice'

"Their physical attire obviously says they are Muslim, they are normally by themselves and with children and the cowardice shown by perpetrators is that it is easier to attack a women with children than it is a man."

Muslim convert and mother-of-two Joni Clark moved her family from Penge in south east London, to Whitechapel in east London, after suffering several Islamophobic incidents.

"I receive abuse every single day," she said.

"The attacks affect my children deeply and I fear for their safety so I feel I have no choice but to move."

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After noticing how the posters from developed countries in PP behave mockingly towards the developing countries but tolerance levels are below in their countries as well.
 
Sad to see such incidents happening in my city, especially after we like to brag to the world about London being a multicultural place. But yes I do feel slowly tolerance levels are starting to wear thin in this country especially among the indigenous white British population. The July 7 bombings and Lee Rigby incident were the catalysts for this level of Islamophobia.
 
After noticing how the posters from developed countries in PP behave mockingly towards the developing countries but tolerance levels are below in their countries as well.

What differentiates civilized nations from the not so civilized is the law enforcement and justice system.
 
It is happening here in France too.

Lots of hijab and burkah wearing women are reporting insults and snide remarks being hurled at them.
 
Great news for Al Qaida and ISIS, their long term vision of pitching believers vs kafirs is coming along nicely.
 
This was always expected when the community is so resistant to integration , add other major factors like Grooming gangs , rising extremism , London Bombings , Anjem Chaudhary .
 
This was always expected when the community is so resistant to integration , add other major factors like Grooming gangs , rising extremism , London Bombings , Anjem Chaudhary .

Of course you are right, the UK Muslim community regularly form gangs to groom girls, bomb London and parade the streets as Anjem Choudhary. I do this at least twice a week myself. Love your user name and flag by the way, the two seem to go hand in hand for some reason.
 
But But But parts of Europe are "no go zones" why dont all the muslims just go to those areas to be safe?
 
Of course you are right, the UK Muslim community regularly form gangs to groom girls, bomb London and parade the streets as Anjem Choudhary. I do this at least twice a week myself. Love your user name and flag by the way, the two seem to go hand in hand for some reason.

Perceptions, Kaptaan sahab. Perceptions make reality. UK Muslims continue to let people like Anjem Chaudhry hijack the majority view.
 
Perceptions, Kaptaan sahab. Perceptions make reality. UK Muslims continue to let people like Anjem Chaudhry hijack the majority view.

This is like me saying that the UK English are allowing the EDL to hijack the majority view. But I guess you are suggesting that if these Muslim women are being targeted then it's their own fault and not the offender's.
 
This is like me saying that the UK English are allowing the EDL to hijack the majority view. But I guess you are suggesting that if these Muslim women are being targeted then it's their own fault and not the offender's.

Faulty analogy. EDL is often subjected to counter protests and retaliations.

I'm not saying that at all. All I'm saying is that perceptions build reality. The West is complicit in perpetuating such perceptions. But the onus falls on Muslims to change them, since they're the biggest victim (beneficiary).
 
Perceptions, Kaptaan sahab. Perceptions make reality. UK Muslims continue to let people like Anjem Chaudhry hijack the majority view.

I can't speak for everyone but no one that I know supports or even mentions Anjem Chordary.

He's scum and you really to ask why some of the British media give him so much coverage and let him air his extreme views when he probably represents probably less than 5%, maybe much less of the Muslim British
population.

If certain media outlets stop giving this attention seeker a platform then these perceptions wouldn't arise.
 
Never knew this happened in London, I mix in with Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus fairly easily
 
I can't speak for everyone but no one that I know supports or even mentions Anjem Chordary.

He's scum and you really to ask why some of the British media give him so much coverage and let him air his extreme views when he probably represents probably less than 5%, maybe much less of the Muslim British
population.

If certain media outlets stop giving this attention seeker a platform then these perceptions wouldn't arise.

I agree with everything that you said. The media is clearly an accomplice. My question is what options do the UK Muslims have to stop people like Anjem Chaudhry from masquerading as a spoke person for the Muslim community?
 
This was always expected when the community is so resistant to integration , add other major factors like Grooming gangs , rising extremism , London Bombings , Anjem Chaudhary .

Erm no there was no issue till 2001 with any Muslim immigrants and all of a sudden everything is an issue.
The emphasis that i'm trying to make with this thread is that even in UK where some posters claim about the "high" democratic process with high literacy the basic problems of tolerance remain the same.
 
Of course you are right, the UK Muslim community regularly form gangs to groom girls, bomb London and parade the streets as Anjem Choudhary. I do this at least twice a week myself. Love your user name and flag by the way, the two seem to go hand in hand for some reason.

:))) True, am one of those people. Remember that terrorist who plays for the national English cricket team? that twisted individual was bowling at the touring Indian team last summer with GRENADES! :amla It's also worth mentioning he comes from the muslim extremist city of Birmingham.
 
Perceptions, Kaptaan sahab. Perceptions make reality. UK Muslims continue to let people like Anjem Chaudhry hijack the majority view.

Anjem Choudary is old news. Rock star Modi will be headline news come November.
 
Meaning more Indians will get attacked now. I really feel bad for you guys.
 
Why Anjem Chaudhary gets so much airtime is beyond me. Most of the UK muslims I have met consider him nothing more than a buffoon.
 
Perceptions, Kaptaan sahab. Perceptions make reality. UK Muslims continue to let people like Anjem Chaudhry hijack the majority view.

Thats true. Never seen any sort of opposition towards Anjem and other Londonistan extremists from British Muslims.
 
Neither me nor my family have experienced any acts of hate against us in 12 years of living in London. I was working a corporate job over the summer and did not encounter any form of passive aggressive behaviour from my colleagues (mostly white British, German and other western Europeans in their mid to late 30s) despite my obvious Muslim name. Even when discussing current events and IS's daily buffoonery things did not get too heated. I wonder how long this will continue.
 
Neither me nor my family have experienced any acts of hate against us in 12 years of living in London. I was working a corporate job over the summer and did not encounter any form of passive aggressive behaviour from my colleagues (mostly white British, German and other western Europeans in their mid to late 30s) despite my obvious Muslim name. Even when discussing current events and IS's daily buffoonery things did not get too heated. I wonder how long this will continue.

Despite the Daily Mail headlines which often give outsiders a skewed impression, London isn't really a city where there is going to be much friction. It's too cosmopolitan and the vast majority of it's citizens are getting on with their lives without giving a second thought to rent-a-loons like Anjem Choudary.

I would expect more trouble in the midlands or the north to be honest.
 
Far Right nationalists, islamophobes & extremist Mullahs are one and the same. All are a threat to societies peace, harmony & integration.

" Hate Mongerers " precisely.


There is no difference between Geert Widers, Tommy Robinson & Abu ' Hook-man ' Hamza


Our Pen will not spare any of you. You all are aik he thaali k Bengunn.



Read this article by my friend. He is a Junior Doctor in UK.

http://rationalreligion.co.uk/its-s...binson-holds-in-common-with-extremist-muslims


[MENTION=4930]Yossarian[/MENTION] @Cpt Rishwat [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=42489]Black Zero[/MENTION] [MENTION=137723]JoniInsafian[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=135579]Heisenberg[/MENTION]
 
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Far Right nationalists, islamophobes & extremist Mullahs are one and the same. All are a threat to societies peace, harmony & integration.

" Hate Mongerers " precisely.


There is no difference between Geert Widers, Tommy Robinson & Abu ' Hook-man ' Hamza


Our Pen will not spare any of you. You all are aik he thaali k Bengunn.



Read this article by my friend. He is a Junior Doctor in UK.

http://rationalreligion.co.uk/its-s...binson-holds-in-common-with-extremist-muslims


[MENTION=4930]Yossarian[/MENTION] @Cpt Rishwat [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=42489]Black Zero[/MENTION] [MENTION=137723]JoniInsafian[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=135579]Heisenberg[/MENTION]


As I have said many times, Right wing and Conservative Cultures are generally a bad news anywhere in the world. Hate driven Ideologies racism, religion, ethnicity, patriotism etc generally get protection under conservation ideology and cultures. Even views of Liberals are farther away from Muslims Fundamentals or Even Racist, you would rarely see liberals revert to violence...

It is very important for any society to have strong and vibrant liberal culture!!
 
As I have said many times, Right wing and Conservative Cultures are generally a bad news anywhere in the world. Hate driven Ideologies racism, religion, ethnicity, patriotism etc generally get protection under conservation ideology and cultures. Even views of Liberals are farther away from Muslims Fundamentals or Even Racist, you would rarely see liberals revert to violence...

It is very important for any society to have strong and vibrant liberal culture!!


As far as religion is concerned, dear aethiest brother I would like you to only fit extremists and terrorists here.


While for fundamentalist definitions vary for different people. For instance, in America there are many practicing Muslim Women who wear long coats, wear scarf, veil or cover their head yet at the same time they are scientists, pharmacists, doctors, engineers practicing their respective fields. They neither preach hate nor they physically harm anyone. Not just that but tbey are raising future American generations aswell but for few they are " extremists " they do not integrate , are conservative and are Muslim fundamentalists and a threat to American society and progress. So everyone has his her own Barometer and judgement.


A practicing Muslim can be liberal, secular, progressive and peaceful at the same time but than again what he wears and what he does inside mosque or on Internet or on stalls might not be " liberal " & " secular " in your Eye.



For me people like George Carlin, Geert Wilders, Tommy Robbinson & Abu Hamza have plenty of Common traits. Hate Mongers Extremists.


This is what Tommy has said after He was given platform to spread hate as a hate preacher. Things which you yasir bhai perceive as facts.


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As far as religion is concerned, dear aethiest brother I would like you to only fit extremists and terrorists here.


While for fundamentalist definitions vary for different people. For instance, in America there are many practicing Muslim Women who wear long coats, wear scarf, veil or cover their head yet at the same time they are scientists, pharmacists, doctors, engineers practicing their respective fields. They neither preach hate nor they physically harm anyone. Not just that but tbey are raising future American generations aswell but for few they are " extremists " they do not integrate , are conservative and are Muslim fundamentalists and a threat to American society and progress. So everyone has his her own Barometer and judgement.


A practicing Muslim can be liberal, secular, progressive and peaceful at the same time but than again what he wears and what he does inside mosque or on Internet or on stalls might not be " liberal " & " secular " in your Eye.



For me people like George Carlin, Geert Wilders, Tommy Robbinson & Abu Hamza have plenty of Common traits. Hate Mongers Extremists.


This is what Tommy has said after He was given platform to spread hate as a hate preacher. Things which you yasir bhai perceive as facts.


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I don't think data support that statement. Muslim societies are heavily controlled by conservative culture, there rarely is a vibrant liberal muslim culture anywhere in the world... For many Muslims liberal means partying, alcohol and have fun, that's about it. Muslim cultures have little to no appreciation of liberals idols like freedom of thought and speech, value evidence base knowledge, equality of rights for women and minorities etc.

In West Liberals support and stand for rights of all minorities including Muslims, Gays and other minorities, even they are hated in Muslim world.
 
I don't think data support that statement. Muslim societies are heavily controlled by conservative culture, there rarely is a vibrant liberal muslim culture anywhere in the world... For many Muslims liberal means partying, alcohol and have fun, that's about it. Muslim cultures have little to no appreciation of liberals idols like freedom of thought and speech, value evidence base knowledge, equality of rights for women and minorities etc.

In West Liberals support and stand for rights of all minorities including Muslims, Gays and other minorities, even they are hated in Muslim world.


I do not have much disagreement with your Post but as a practicing Muslim my definition of Liberal is not what I highlighted.
 
Very sad and disgusting that Muslims, particularly Muslim women are being targeted by cowardly British citizens for no reason. The white indigenous culture is growing more intolerant, typified by the 'white man van' who committed the terror act in North London several days ago.
 
Why Anjem Chaudhary gets so much airtime is beyond me. Most of the UK muslims I have met consider him nothing more than a buffoon.

People have to be in serious denial if they don't accept the agenda of the mainstream media. The likes of Anjem and Tommy whose views don't represent the vast majority get airtime to further division between people.

Islamaphobia is increasing around the western world mainly due to the media and governments here.
 
Didn't Mail Online run a headline after the Finsbury Park terrorist attack along the lines of:

'White van man drives van into mosque, injuring 10, mosque once gave platform to Abu Hamza'

- Scandalous that they tried to make it a NON terrorism-related incident, and ignore the poor fellow who died, AND offer some kind of excuse / justification for the act in the same small headline.

Extraordinary stuff, and surely fuels Islamophobia when all of the average Joe Dumbo laymen read these headlines and just swallow them as accurate reporting.
 
I don't really blame Non Muslim white English citizens for being "Islamophobic". Sure, guys like Tommy Robinson are annoying but he's actually using stats and figures. While his style is very aggressive and rude, Donald Trump is the perfect example of the fact that people don't care anymore. They want to hear this.

The truth is, the Quran can be interpreted in a thousand different ways and the interpretations he's cherry picking, the history he's reading and the "facts" he's pointing out are supported by our beloved "Aalims". Yes, Zakir Naik, Menk, TJ and most of all your lovely Imam's accept that the Prophet married a minor Ayesha. And to the world, that's pedophilia and rape and certainly NOT an example to follow.

Now while I don't believe this history, the bitter truth is that this is what our "Aalims" are preaching. And quite frankly, if I were a Non Muslim, white British citizen, I too would be annoyed with terrorism being on the high and most of them turning out to be chanting "Allah Hu Akbar". Do you honestly think the majority of the Non Muslim population is going to conduct hours of research and reading to differentiate between Islam and Wahhabbi's? I don't think so. I know I certainly wouldn't.
 
I don't really blame Non Muslim white English citizens for being "Islamophobic". Sure, guys like Tommy Robinson are annoying but he's actually using stats and figures. While his style is very aggressive and rude, Donald Trump is the perfect example of the fact that people don't care anymore. They want to hear this.

Let's clarify.

You don't blame Non-Muslims for discriminating in jobs, abusing Islamic figures, burning the Quran, ripping headscarfs off women, murdering elderly men ...to name a few manifestations of Islamaphobia?

Tommy Robinson is not using fact and figures :))... He is distorting facts and using texts without context. The guy is complete ***** and if you think he makes good points, I can't say much.

The truth is, the Quran can be interpreted in a thousand different ways and the interpretations he's cherry picking, the history he's reading and the "facts" he's pointing out are supported by our beloved "Aalims". Yes, Zakir Naik, Menk, TJ and most of all your lovely Imam's accept that the Prophet married a minor Ayesha. And to the world, that's pedophilia and rape and certainly NOT an example to follow.

There must be hundreds of thousands of scholars around the world. Can you prove most accept this?

Now while I don't believe this history, the bitter truth is that this is what our "Aalims" are preaching. And quite frankly, if I were a Non Muslim, white British citizen, I too would be annoyed with terrorism being on the high and most of them turning out to be chanting "Allah Hu Akbar". Do you honestly think the majority of the Non Muslim population is going to conduct hours of research and reading to differentiate between Islam and Wahhabbi's? I don't think so. I know I certainly wouldn't.

It may come as a surprise to you not living in the UK but Islamaphobic views and actions are that of a minority.
 
Let's clarify.

You don't blame Non-Muslims for discriminating in jobs, abusing Islamic figures, burning the Quran, ripping headscarfs off women, murdering elderly men ...to name a few manifestations of Islamaphobia?

Tommy Robinson is not using fact and figures :))... He is distorting facts and using texts without context. The guy is complete ***** and if you think he makes good points, I can't say much.

Bud, from the little that I've seen of him through YouTube, I've seen he's quoting Quranic verses that actually exist. He's naming things from the past that our beloved "scholars" actually agree happened. It's not like I'm on his side. I'm just giving an unbiased opinion. While he is aggressive, he does sound like he know's what he's talking about and people like that, which is why he's inciting violence.

You said he's using things in the wrong context, I absolutely agree which is why I said he "cherry picks" what suits him best but that doesn't mean that whatever he's "cherry picking" or using in the wrong context doesn't exist. The average person isn't going to spend his time researching and trying to find out what the context or the story was behind what he said.



There must be hundreds of thousands of scholars around the world. Can you prove most accept this?

Like you said, there's a million scholars out there so, no I cannot prove that most accept this but most famous scholars like the ones I've mentioned in my original post accept of this.



It may come as a surprise to you not living in the UK but Islamaphobic views and actions are that of a minority.

It does not come as a surprise to me and yes, I'm aware of that.
 
BNP and that lot are just bitter, jealous and twisted. No education qualifications so their gangs of hooligans go around attacking people of colour who have made a success of their lives with Muslim's being an easy target. It's the sign of the times we live in. Nabi(pbuh) had told us that there would come a time time when the whole world would be against Muslim people. After hardship comes ease.
 
Didn't Mail Online run a headline after the Finsbury Park terrorist attack along the lines of:

'White van man drives van into mosque, injuring 10, mosque once gave platform to Abu Hamza'

- Scandalous that they tried to make it a NON terrorism-related incident, and ignore the poor fellow who died, AND offer some kind of excuse / justification for the act in the same small headline.

Extraordinary stuff, and surely fuels Islamophobia when all of the average Joe Dumbo laymen read these headlines and just swallow them as accurate reporting.


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