Isn't there a middle ground for Pakistani fans?

[LordEddardStark]

For the past one week, PP was filled with our ******* boasting about how great this team is and how Indians would rather just surrender before us instead of playing on the 19th September. Today the same ******* have turned wrist slitters, using words like fluke and Akmal in alternative sentences.

Why are Pakistani fans so brittle? Can't there be a saner version to explain what has happened yesterday? Can't we just look for the weak areas in the team and improve upon them one by one?

To me, there are four major areas of concern.

1. A second Opener. (Imam is not the solution and he never will be. But we can keep experimenting him against the likes of Zimbabwe and Hong Kong. Let's see if he can average 100 or not.)
2. One anchor in the middle order. (Sarfaraz is the captain. Malik is the senior most. Asif is the only genuine hitter in team. I don't know who'll make way for him but answer is right there on the bench. We need Haris in the middle.)
3. Amir. (Frankly he has had enough chances already. )
4. One specialist spinner. (Preferably finger. Shadab seems to prefer being an allrounder and Nawaz/Imad are mediocre. One frontline spinner is essential)

And for heaven's sake people, stop belittling your team already. This is a young and promising team and has come leaps forward in past one year. But that's what it is. A fifth ranked team with potential to break into top 4. Support them but don't get your expectations too high either. We are to play India, Bangladesh, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa and England before World Cup 2019. This stronger opposition would either break these boys or mold them into better professionals eventually. I have my money on second possibility.

 

[Xoib]

Yes it is annoying suddenly Asif Ali is mediocre and needs to be dropped for one poor outing and the messiah is Haris even though he has done jack since his return.Mamoon Bhai is better then these shifty fans atleast his views are consistent in regards to Pakistan cricket even if they are depressing.

 

[todfod 11]

Harris sohail need to play instead of Fahim ashraf in uae pitches.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Apart from not playing an extra spinner last night. There isn't much of a problem with our squad and playing XI. The planning, role, and execution were horribly wrong last night. I felt there wasn't any plan. And if there were, the team made the wrong plan.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Apart from not playing an extra spinner last night. There isn't much of a problem with our squad and playing XI. The planning, role, and execution were horribly wrong last night. I felt there wasn't any plan. And if there were, the team made the wrong plan.

When you give three wickets to a nobody like Jadhav, you know you've had a really bad day. Masood for Imam is the only change I would make for tomorrow.

 

[todfod 11]

Mickey is doing so well but UAE strategy they not getting it right for some reason.. Anyways Tournament is not over.. lets back the boys.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Mickey is doing so well but UAE strategy they not getting it right for some reason.. Anyways Tournament is not over.. lets back the boys.

the moment misbah left Pakistan team is all at sea in uae* test matches.
one day i dont think he has good record anyway.
but my point is misbah has the right mind for the slow pitches but then again he was lucky to have spinners such as ajmal and yasir along .
Pakistan should give misbah some role for the upcoming series in UAE.
HE IS THE KING .
or else another srilanka like disaster is waiting to happen against aussie.

 

[ARK Rafay]

When you give three wickets to a nobody like Jadhav, you know you've had a really bad day. Masood for Imam is the only change I would make for tomorrow.

Not a big difference between them. If Masood gets out early in this tournament. He'll get bashed hard. Apart from Farhan I see no one in domestic who can bat at a better S/R

 

[ARK Rafay]

Mickey is doing so well but UAE strategy they not getting it right for some reason.. Anyways Tournament is not over.. lets back the boys.

Right. I felt like Pakistan were still going by the English conditions strategy. After getting so much criticism for the past two years, that Pakistan plays slow. They can't do well in England. Pakistan actually did change. But in U.A.E we needed the old Pakistan (A.K.A U.A.E Misbah's strategy)

 

[Ned Flanders]

The fans are a reflection of the team and the team are a reflection of the fans.

Both are brittle and can collapse any minute.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Not a big difference between them. If Masood gets out early in this tournament. He'll get bashed hard. Apart from Farhan I see no one in domestic who can bat at a better S/R

True. However I really don’t want to see Imam out there representing our ODI team anymore.

 

[ARK Rafay]

True. However I really don’t want to see Imam out there representing our ODI team anymore.

That's biased.

 

[RickyG]

There are four types of fans on Pakpassion that I have come across so far.

1. The Perpetual Pessimists: Very easy to point out. They come out with explanations as to why every game won was a fluke. They'll say things like "If Fakhar hit the ball 10 yards inside the boundary instead of beyond the boundary he would've been caught therefore the whole win was a fluke."

2. The Bipolar Brigade: These are the fans you've referenced in your posts. Before they discovered the internet they were at the airport with garlands when the team won and burning effigies when the team lost. Now they've discovered the internet and they continue their activities metaphorically on websites like PP.

3. The Fan-Boy Family: This lot, as the name suggests, have 1-2 cricketers that they wholeheartedly support. In fact, their whole reason to support the team has everything to do with the player(s) they like. Sometimes, they support an entire family and make a case for how Kamran, Umar, Adnan and their chacha, taya and mamus would make the Pakistan cricket team a force to reckon with.

4. The Anti-(insert name) Association: These fans are all about confirmation bias. They hold a view regarding a player they strongly dislike (Sarfraz, Hafeez etc) and every time that player fails to perform they use it to show why this player isn't even worthy of gully-mohalla cricket.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Harris sohail need to play instead of Fahim ashraf in uae pitches.

Who's your 5th / 6th bowler?

 

[Bilal7]

Nope. PP is filled with knee-jerk fans. Our current team is pretty good and one defeat does not change that. However, there are some obvious weak links that need to be fixed before next year's World Cup.

 

[cricket_cfa]

Play more spinners on spinning track

 

[PakPremi]

Who's your 5th / 6th bowler?

Haris himself and Shoaib. Faheem on these pitches will do no more than these two. We need a proper no 4 batsman.

 

[LordEddardStark]

There are four types of fans on Pakpassion that I have come across so far.

1. The Perpetual Pessimists: Very easy to point out. They come out with explanations as to why every game won was a fluke. They'll say things like "If Fakhar hit the ball 10 yards inside the boundary instead of beyond the boundary he would've been caught therefore the whole win was a fluke."

2. The Bipolar Brigade: These are the fans you've referenced in your posts. Before they discovered the internet they were at the airport with garlands when the team won and burning effigies when the team lost. Now they've discovered the internet and they continue their activities metaphorically on websites like PP.

3. The Fan-Boy Family: This lot, as the name suggests, have 1-2 cricketers that they wholeheartedly support. In fact, their whole reason to support the team has everything to do with the player(s) they like. Sometimes, they support an entire family and make a case for how Kamran, Umar, Adnan and their chacha, taya and mamus would make the Pakistan cricket team a force to reckon with.

4. The Anti-(insert name) Association: These fans are all about confirmation bias. They hold a view regarding a player they strongly dislike (Sarfraz, Hafeez etc) and every time that player fails to perform they use it to show why this player isn't even worthy of gully-mohalla cricket.

You missed one type. The (pseudo) experts. They create hypes around some never heard before local talent and term him the second coming of Akram/Anwer, etc. When that person eventually cannot fulfill the shoes provided to him, he is either readily discarded (lucky for him) or made into a larger than life persona like Fawad or Gohar. The other kind of these experts do not give chance to any cricketer at all. A budding cricketer, to them, is either too short or too slow or too human. They tend to disappear soon after the cricketer starts performing, waiting for him to make that one mistake which could eventually prove them right.

 

[todfod 11]

Who's your 5th / 6th bowler?

harris bowls spin. malik can bowl few and fakhar can bowl few.

 

[Ned Flanders]

harris bowls spin. malik can bowl few and fakhar can bowl few.

Lol they'll get tonked.

 

[todfod 11]

Lol they'll get tonked.

Thats okay.. but there is a fair chance. Harris might score match winning score then Fahim... Faheem is a good player no doubt but he bats well in countries where ball comes to bat and u dont have reach out for it.

 

[RickyG]

You missed one type. The (pseudo) experts. They create hypes around some never heard before local talent and term him the second coming of Akram/Anwer, etc. When that person eventually cannot fulfill the shoes provided to him, he is either readily discarded (lucky for him) or made into a larger than life persona like Fawad or Gohar. The other kind of these experts do not give chance to any cricketer at all. A budding cricketer, to them, is either too short or too slow or too human. They tend to disappear soon after the cricketer starts performing, waiting for him to make that one mistake which could eventually prove them right.

Oh yes definitely missed that one. Mohammad Irfan was our Joel Garner. Ahmed Shehzad was a Tendulkar & Kohli hybrid. Umar Amin was the new Saeed Anwar. The longer some of these players stay out of the team the bigger their legend becomes, case in point Fawad Alam.

 

[TeamPak95]

Lol I think everyone here is well aware of a middle ground, but when Pak loses some just can't help it. The emotions just erupt and the knives are out for slashing. Regarding Amir, let's be real he ain't going anywhere at least until after the WC. Him having the role of container wouldn't bug me as much if it came along with consistent, early strikes.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Thats asian fans for you. Riding the wave all the way.

 

[adzzy786]

Whether we win or loose it doesn’t change that our middle order is lacking a special batsmen or two. We don’t have anyone who can hold the innings together, safraz is batting way too high.