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Under no circumstances will Israel support Pakistan on the Kashmir issue, top Israeli authorities have said.

This is significant given that the country has been relatively silent over Kashmir, which is described as the core issue between India and Pakistan, despite standing shoulder to shoulder with India in the fight against terrorism.
For India, the main issue with Pakistan is cross-border terrorism which continues to fan unrest in Jammu and Kashmir.

For a while, after India established full diplomatic relations with Israel in the early 90s, Israel had endorsed India's position that Kashmir was an integral part of the country.

However, as India's West Asia expert Rajendra Abhyankar described it, a certain entente cordiale emerged between Israel and Pakistan after 2003 with Israel starting to look at Pakistan as an important country of the Muslim world.

The Delhi Declaration issued after the visit to India by then PM Ariel Sharon in 2003, the first bilateral visit by the PM of either country, did not mention Israel's position on Kashmir. Similarly, the recent visit by PM Narendra Modi, first by an Indian PM to Israel, did not see any direct or even indirect reference to the issue in public despite the tumult prevailing in the state for which India blames Pakistan.

According to Israeli officials though, there is no question of Israel in any way supporting Pakistan, whatever might be the situation in Kashmir. This was conveyed, in response to a TOI query, to a delegation of Indian journalists and politicians who were brought to Israel by the American Jewish Committee (AJC).

The query also touched upon why, despite claiming to fully back India's stand on terrorism, the joint statement issued after Modi-Netanyahu meeting last month, neither made any specific mention of cross-border terrorism nor called upon Pakistan to bring the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks to justice. In contrast, the Modi-Trump joint statement this year did not just name Pakistan, asking it to expeditiously bring the perpetrators of Mumbai and Pathankot attacks to justice, but also sought action against Pakistan based terror groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed.

According to Israel though, the joint statement did not have to be exhaustive and that if something wasn't mentioned, it did not mean that it wasn't on the table. Israel also doesn't see the Kashmir issue as any form of religious conflict.

It's perhaps a sign of the maturity of its relationship with India that Israel has the confidence to not pursue exclusive ties with New Delhi. As Israeli officials said, there was no reason for Israel to take a position on the Sino-Indian military standoff even though Israel was following the situation closely. Israel has great relations with China but, as an official put it, just as India's relations with Iran are not directed at Israel, Israel's relations with any country too were were not directed to India.

However, while Israelis recalled Modi's visit as one of the most successful ever by a foreign leader, there was considerable disappointment at Ramallah, barely 10 miles north of Jerusalem, over Modi's decision to ignore Palestine during the visit. Unlike even his own foreign minister Sushma Swaraj, Modi chose not to visit Ramallah with his government looking to de-hyphenate ties with Israel and Palestine.

"There's significant concern here that India is moving away from the policies it has followed since 1947," said Khalil Shikaki, the director of Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research in Ramallah.

"The current PM (Modi) seems more interested in security and in relations with the West. Palestinians seem to believe that they can no longer count on India's support," added Shikaki.
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Link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-pakistan-on-kashmir/articleshow/60135571.cms
 
Israel and India have recently become closely allied, with Narendra Modi's recent visit to the Zionist state. His position is markedly different from his predecessors, who supported the Palestinian cause, and opposed the Occupation.

Modi has introduced Hindu nationalism into India, the way Zionists promote Jewish nationalism. That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing, but can be dangerous when it requires the 'other' - that is, a scapegoat - to justify its existence. In the case of Netanyahu and Modi, that scapegoat is: Muslims, claiming they are extremists and terrorists, that represent a threat to the security and stability of Israel and India, respectively.
 
Jadz said:
Israel and India have recently become closely allied, with Narendra Modi's recent visit to the Zionist state. His position is markedly different from his predecessors, who supported the Palestinian cause, and opposed the Occupation.

Modi has introduced Hindu nationalism into India, the way Zionists promote Jewish nationalism. That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing, but can be dangerous when it requires the 'other' - that is, a scapegoat - to justify its existence. In the case of Netanyahu and Modi, that scapegoat is: Muslims, claiming they are extremists and terrorists, that represent a threat to the security and stability of Israel and India, respectively.
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Kudos to first Vajpayee and now Modi for establishing this partnership, which is good for both the countries. Left to the idiotic Congress party, we'd still be sucking up to Palestinians. Thankfully we've moved on from those embarrassing days when Indira Gandhi would hobnob with people like Yasser Arafat and Fidel Castro just because she wanted to position herself as some sort of a "world leader."
 
lmao oh what a surprise. Israel will never support a country that doesn't recognise it or have any diplomatic relations with it.

India-Israel are allies with common interests so no surprise Israel will take India's side.
 
[MENTION=142736]English August[/MENTION] Congress wanted India to be the leader of the anti imperialist post colonial world but vajpaye n modi have taken a more pragmatic approach n allied with u.s n israel for economic n strategic benefits but also in a post 9/11 world the anti-imperialist leftist ideology is dead now.
 
English August said:
Kudos to first Vajpayee and now Modi for establishing this partnership, which is good for both the countries. Left to the idiotic Congress party, we'd still be sucking up to Palestinians. Thankfully we've moved on from those embarrassing days when Indira Gandhi would hobnob with people like Yasser Arafat and Fidel Castro just because she wanted to position herself as some sort of a "world leader."
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My biggest fear is what if Congress someday again comes into power. All good things done so far under Modi would go down the drain.
 
We don't even recognise then as a legit country. Pak will never support them on the Palestinian cause either.
 
Pakistan hasnt gained jack from supporting Palestine.

Foreign policy isnt a humanitarian cause and Israel isnt going anywhere. Time to do what we should have done a long time ago and establish a relationship with Israel. A strong India-Israel-USA relationship will not be healthy for Pakistan if we keep up our current Muslim global brotherhood policy and pretend that Israel doesnt exist.
 
Seriously was it worth starting a thread on this ??

It's not news. I mean not even a liberal Israeli government would support Pakistan on the Kashmir issue - at the very most they would be neutral but even that would be pushing it.

Here we have one of the most right wing Israeli governments in power continuously stealing Palestinian land with their settlement activity and their continuous choking of Gaza.

Why on earth would they support Pakistan on anything ?
 
Lol Pakistan doesnt even recognize Israel so why is this even news
 
Frankly Pakistan's relationship with Israel aren't as black & white as people (mostly religious zealots) like to believe. There are considerable back channel ties. In fact, Israel was a major source for F-16 spare parts during sanctions.
 
Yeah we are dying for the support of a puny little country like Israel
 
Yes what above poster said is valid. Israel is much more relevant and influential on a global scale. So whether we choose to recognize Israel or not a partnership with Us-Israel and India on one side is not good for us...
 
This is nothing short of a diplomatic coup. Having Israel's unequivocal support only affirms India's moral position and the respect she has among the international community. A massive snub to Pakistan who need to introspect that they must be doing something wrong if even Israel doesn't support them.
 
Ocelot said:
Frankly Pakistan's relationship with Israel aren't as black & white as people (mostly religious zealots) like to believe. There are considerable back channel ties. In fact, Israel was a major source for F-16 spare parts during sanctions.
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I have heard the ISI regularly works with and shares information with the Mossad.

It seems like at the military intellgence leve - there are some ties and communication between Pakistan and Israel.
 
With all due respects to the Palestinians, India have their own issues to worry about, supporting Palestine has got India ZILCH and supporting any muslim countries in all honesty gets you nothing in today's world. Islamic world is politically and financially weak with zero influence, and are never taken seriously. India needs to do what India has to for its interest.
 
Chrish said:
Israel is much more influential on a global scale than Pakistan.
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That doesnt change the fact that Israel can't even touch us. They support or not support doesn't matter.

Pakistani pilots are the only ones in the world to down Israeli jets. Pakistan has successfully managed to hold off a seven times larger enemy than itself for 70 years which is unprecedented in the history of the world. What is Israel even?

Keep in mind Pakistani missiles can reach Israel but theirs can't reach us.
 
If Israel was so dangerous and powerful why was an F-16 lurking inside Indian territory when Pak was conducting nuke tests, when India doesn't own any F-16s. Why did the Israeli jet not grow a pair and stop us?
 
Syed1 said:
That doesnt change the fact that Israel can't even touch us. They support or not support doesn't matter.

Pakistani pilots are the only ones in the world to down Israeli jets. Pakistan has successfully managed to hold off a seven times larger enemy than itself for 70 years which is unprecedented in the history of the world. What is Israel even?

Keep in mind Pakistani missiles can reach Israel but theirs can't reach us.
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Yeah Israel has been chilling with their every neighbor for all these years!

Of wait ??? :facepalm:
 
Chrish said:
Yeah Israel has been chilling with all the neighbors for all these years!

Of wait ??? :facepalm:
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Yeah I'm sure nuclear armed Egypt, Syria, Lebanon etc all offer as much threat to Israel as India does to Pakistan.

Come back when you have facts.
 
The thing which annoys me the most is that they think of Pakistan as an "important Muslim country" while we are far away from that. Just switch to Hum TV or visit centaurus and tell me the Islamic part in them.
 
Syed1 said:
That doesnt change the fact that Israel can't even touch us. They support or not support doesn't matter.

Pakistani pilots are the only ones in the world to down Israeli jets. Pakistan has successfully managed to hold off a seven times larger enemy than itself for 70 years which is unprecedented in the history of the world. What is Israel even?

Keep in mind Pakistani missiles can reach Israel but theirs can't reach us.
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You obviously didn't get what he was saying, Israel and Pakistan wont go to war with each other, however had Israel been an acquaintance of Pakistan at the very least it would do Pakistan more good than their supposed holy Islamic brotherhood to the Palestine Arabs which in return gives Pakistan nothing...
 
Syed1 said:
That doesnt change the fact that Israel can't even touch us. They support or not support doesn't matter.

Pakistani pilots are the only ones in the world to down Israeli jets. Pakistan has successfully managed to hold off a seven times larger enemy than itself for 70 years which is unprecedented in the history of the world. What is Israel even?

Keep in mind Pakistani missiles can reach Israel but theirs can't reach us.
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Those one way trips? I wonder how many of sissy pilots are going to do it this time. And I am sure that Israel's missile defense system is something that we can only dream of.
 
maxamax said:
Those one way trips? I wonder how many of sissy pilots are going to do it this time. And I am sure that Israel's missile defense system is something that we can only dream of.
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Easy to call someone a "sissy pilot" when you probably are scared to be alone in a dark room by yourself. Have some respect for the people laying down their lives for your country.

No missile defense system in the world is fail proof.
 
Syed1 said:
Yeah I'm sure nuclear armed Egypt, Syria, Lebanon etc all offer as much threat to Israel as India does to Pakistan.

Come back when you have facts.
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There is a reason why "Zionist" Israelis are responsible for 99% of all the troubles Muslim face today according to Pakistani posters themselves on this forum. Have read it dozen times in past month alone.

Israel has proven themselves to be more important than Pakistan or any arab country for that matter in a grand scheme of things.

I can understand it's unpleasant to hear but it's the truth.
 
LOL at Israeli missals can't reach Pakistan!

Yeah apparently they been playing monopoly all these years. Read and do some research.

One's perception doesn't create reality.
 
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Chrish said:
There is a reason why "Zionist" Israelis are responsible for 99% of all the troubles Muslim face today according to Pakistani posters themselves on this forum. Have read it dozen times in past month alone.

Israel has proven themselves to be more important than Pakistan or any arab country for that matter in a grand scheme of things.

I can understand it's unpleasant to hear but it's the truth.
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True.
Being the most dominant U.S. state, dominant in terms of control of American big business, news media, financial institutions, social media monoliths, but especially full and utter control over U.S. politics and government, has a lot to do with it. ie USA's 51st state located in the eastern Mediterranean.
 
Chrish said:
There is a reason why "Zionist" Israelis are responsible for 99% of all the troubles Muslim face today according to Pakistani posters themselves on this forum. Have read it dozen times in past month alone.

Israel has proven themselves to be more important than Pakistan or any arab country for that matter in a grand scheme of things.

I can understand it's unpleasant to hear but it's the truth.
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In that case Israel is much more important than India.

But why is of the nonsense that you are spouting become important when it comes to the topic - Kashmir ??

Israel is only 1 country and It's Indian BS propaganda to suggest their opinion matters on Pakistan and Kashmir when are too busy abusing the Palestinians in many ways more than one.

You are fooling no one.
 
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Indians celebrating that Israel have their back on Kashmir is the biggest joke going around. It Means zilch. I know it, they know it and it's just a nonsensical Indian media propaganda attempt.

A bigger joke was when Modi refused to go to the Palestinian Territories when he recently went to Israel.

For all his troubles even Donald Trump had gone to meet the Palestinians when he had gone.
 
Pakistan doesn't even recognize israel alongwith many other countries, why would anyone want their support. I have seen lot of ignorance regarding israel's status here in PP. Somebody once posted about haj flights from tel aviv to jedddah and was justifying it.
 
90MPH said:
Indians celebrating that Israel have their back on Kashmir is the biggest joke going around. It Means zilch. I know it, they know it and it's just a nonsensical Indian media propaganda attempt.

A bigger joke was when Modi refused to go to the Palestinian Territories when he recently went to Israel.

For all his troubles even Donald Trump had gone to meet the Palestinians when he had gone.
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Palestine is the definition of useless. If I was PM or President of any country I'd save some miles on my legs by not stopping by either.

Absolutely nothing to lose.
 
Chrish said:
There is a reason why "Zionist" Israelis are responsible for 99% of all the troubles Muslim face today according to Pakistani posters themselves on this forum. Have read it dozen times in past month alone.

Israel has proven themselves to be more important than Pakistan or any arab country for that matter in a grand scheme of things.

I can understand it's unpleasant to hear but it's the truth.
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Let me repeat and make it super simple for you to understand.

What does Israel's importance have to do with Pakistan, India and Kashmir???


Learn to walk before you run kid.
 
Syed1 said:
Let me repeat and make it super simple for you to understand.

What does Israel's importance have to do with Pakistan, India and Kashmir???


Learn to walk before you run kid.
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It's the same as some Pakistanis who think Pakistan's say on Palestine means anything.. At the end of the day unless any country shares intelligence, puts foot on the ground or supplies tech transfer their say in such matters is just a say nothing more..
 
big_gamer007 said:
It's the same as some Pakistanis who think Pakistan's say on Palestine means anything.. At the end of the day unless any country shares intelligence, puts foot on the ground or supplies tech transfer their say in such matters is just a say nothing more..
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We have thousands of our own problems and can only pay lip-service to the Palestinian cause, which is still better than supporting an aggressor and killer of innocent civilians like Israel.
 
LegCutter said:
Pakistan hasnt gained jack from supporting Palestine.

Foreign policy isnt a humanitarian cause and Israel isnt going anywhere. Time to do what we should have done a long time ago and establish a relationship with Israel. A strong India-Israel-USA relationship will not be healthy for Pakistan if we keep up our current Muslim global brotherhood policy and pretend that Israel doesnt exist.
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That is not how foreign policy works.

Apart from the fact that supporting Palestine is the correct thing to do, supporting Israel would severely damage Pakistans position among middle eastern countries. Despite what people think we still have healthy relationships there.

Not to mention there would be a massive surge in terror attacks.
 
Syed1 said:
We have thousands of our own problems and can only pay lip-service to the Palestinian cause, which is still better than supporting an aggressor and killer of innocent civilians like Israel.
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Its not about you what I meant is there are some Pakistanis who in the past have posted here that Pakistan should take Palestine side more aggressively but end of the day until you do the 3 things I said above, any country minus USA does is lip service..
 
Badsha said:
That is not how foreign policy works.

Apart from the fact that supporting Palestine is the correct thing to do, supporting Israel would severely damage Pakistans position among middle eastern countries. Despite what people think we still have healthy relationships there.

Not to mention there would be a massive surge in terror attacks.
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Totally agreed with the surge in terror attacks but didn't Saudis and other middle eastern countries recently agreed some new trade relation with Israel or something? Saw a thread about it here iirc
 
Syed1 said:
If Israel was so dangerous and powerful why was an F-16 lurking inside Indian territory when Pak was conducting nuke tests, when India doesn't own any F-16s. Why did the Israeli jet not grow a pair and stop us?
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Dont tell stories.Talk about facts.
 
Syed1 said:
That doesnt change the fact that Israel can't even touch us. They support or not support doesn't matter.

Pakistani pilots are the only ones in the world to down Israeli jets. Pakistan has successfully managed to hold off a seven times larger enemy than itself for 70 years which is unprecedented in the history of the world. What is Israel even?

Keep in mind Pakistani missiles can reach Israel but theirs can't reach us.
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Yes the Jericho 2 and 3 missiles are for show.Right?

Not to mention that Israeli ABMs are the best in the world.
 
90MPH said:
In that case Israel is much more important than India.

But why is of the nonsense that you are spouting become important when it comes to the topic - Kashmir ??

Israel is only 1 country and It's Indian BS propaganda to suggest their opinion matters on Pakistan and Kashmir when are too busy abusing the Palestinians in many ways more than one.

You are fooling no one.
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How many countries has supported tge Pakistani narrative on Kashmir and what have they done?
 
90MPH said:
Indians celebrating that Israel have their back on Kashmir is the biggest joke going around. It Means zilch. I know it, they know it and it's just a nonsensical Indian media propaganda attempt.

A bigger joke was when Modi refused to go to the Palestinian Territories when he recently went to Israel.

For all his troubles even Donald Trump had gone to meet the Palestinians when he had gone.
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Israel is beneficial for India.Not Palestine.
 
Badsha said:
That is not how foreign policy works.

Apart from the fact that supporting Palestine is the correct thing to do, supporting Israel would severely damage Pakistans position among middle eastern countries. Despite what people think we still have healthy relationships there.

Not to mention there would be a massive surge in terror attacks.
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Has any Arab nation broken relations with India because of Indo Pak wars?
 
Syed1 said:
Easy to call someone a "sissy pilot" when you probably are scared to be alone in a dark room by yourself. Have some respect for the people laying down their lives for your country.

No missile defense system in the world is fail proof.
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I am not defending an aimless state based on illusions.

Okay, still respect for them because they risk their lives. But must realize that Israel is not the Israel of 90s anymore. They own most of the tech you use, including the core of those F16s.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Israel has more influence in the world than Pakistan.
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Because it is supported by Zionists in America and Europe.

Indians want this from America too , support in military and political terms.

Both nations are terrorising populations and actually co operate in this disgusting venture.
 
Good to know, friendship with Israel should had been open and warm from a long if it wasn't for the dimwit Congress clowns!
Finally it's moving forward the right way this time.
 
Indians are the biggest admirers of Israel and the most Pro-Israeli Nation after USA.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Because it is supported by Zionists in America and Europe.

Indians want this from America too , support in military and political terms.

Both nations are terrorising populations and actually co operate in this disgusting venture.
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The reason is immaterial.

Everyone wants allies.So does India.

Pakistani narrative on India or Israel doent wash on anyone.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The reason is immaterial.

Everyone wants allies.So does India.

Pakistani narrative on India or Israel doent wash on anyone.
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You might think you talk on behave of India or Indians but I speak for myself only.

Ariel Sharon who has blood on his hands visited India when the previous BJP government was in power. BJP Hindutva and Zionist ideologies are both extremist right wing ideologies and both have mental issues with Muslim majority nations. It makes sense they are allies but dont be fooled into thinking Israelis care for Indians, they dont even care for their own fellow Jews in Israel who are people of colour.

You missed my point which was Israel only has move influence because it has backed by America and Europe, on it's own it doesnt even have influence in its own region.
 
JaDed said:
Good to know, friendship with Israel should had been open and warm from a long if it wasn't for the dimwit Congress clowns!
Finally it's moving forward the right way this time.
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Dont you think india is overdoing stuff here.i mean india is better served by just keeping a transactional relationship with israel.a country that is universally depised for its conduct and you were always getting those military equipments from Israel.why the need to go out of way??
 
cricketjoshila said:
Israel has more influence in the world than Pakistan.
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Yes too busy occupying and oppressing the Palestinians.

They have far too much influence there and no surprise to see criminal Modi supporting the occupation while refusing to meet the Palestinians.
Shows what a vile man he is, even Trump has more values than him.
 
hussain123 said:
Dont you think india is overdoing stuff here.i mean india is better served by just keeping a transactional relationship with israel.a country that is universally depised for its conduct and you were always getting those military equipments from Israel.why the need to go out of way??
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To have a connect with Israel population,which btw we already do because of their tourists but just government-government is not enough,in its own way it's also a democratic country and people of Israel should know that Indian gov and it's people are capable to have more connection with tech and creative aspects.

Tell Aviv has a very innovative startup culture which is original in it's sense, India had already set up institution which were meant for British way,and with Nehru it ended up in a textbook socialist way.Its time to change that, India can learn a lot with their help esp in agriculture where I'm they have been remarkable,and are more ready to share than their European counterparts.
 
hussain123 said:
Dont you think india is overdoing stuff here.i mean india is better served by just keeping a transactional relationship with israel.a country that is universally depised for its conduct and you were always getting those military equipments from Israel.why the need to go out of way??
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How many european and american nations despise Israel?

Close cooperation with Israel benefits India.The need is to take defence cooperation to collaboration level,like Barak 8.
 
90MPH said:
Yes too busy occupying and oppressing the Palestinians.

They have far too much influence there and no surprise to see criminal Modi supporting the occupation while refusing to meet the Palestinians.
Shows what a vile man he is, even Trump has more values than him.
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What do we get in return for supporting Palestine? What has any Palestinian done for this world? Name me one famous Palestinian - in music / politics / sport / culture / food & drink etc etc. Heck, name me one famous Arab from these categories?

Exactly. Zero economic benefit. It's like putting money into Argentina to win the Cricket World Cup final. At least Argentina are good at football.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You might think you talk on behave of India or Indians but I speak for myself only.

Ariel Sharon who has blood on his hands visited India when the previous BJP government was in power. BJP Hindutva and Zionist ideologies are both extremist right wing ideologies and both have mental issues with Muslim majority nations. It makes sense they are allies but dont be fooled into thinking Israelis care for Indians, they dont even care for their own fellow Jews in Israel who are people of colour.

You missed my point which was Israel only has move influence because it has backed by America and Europe, on it's own it doesnt even have influence in its own region.
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Most of the world leaders do fall into this category. At least that blood was not Indian. India also welcomed Mushy who had blood of Indians in his hand.
You can not run country and diplomacy with that kind of ideals.
 
India would never reach the levels of Arab countries and British-American, co-operation with Israel but of course the citizens and admirer of those countries rather take potshots at us coz it's easier to find faults far away from our own biases.
 
JaDed said:
India would never reach the levels of Arab countries and British-American, co-operation with Israel but of course the citizens and admirer of those countries rather take potshots at us coz it's easier to find faults far away from our own biases.
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Don't worry about it bro, as long as the British, Arabs and Americans are all on your side with Israel, no need to worry about anyone else. Long may the threads of India/Israel co-operation keep rolling on Pakistani forums, it's the only way to build true friendship.
 
Varun said:
What do we get in return for supporting Palestine? What has any Palestinian done for this world? Name me one famous Palestinian - in music / politics / sport / culture / food & drink etc etc. Heck, name me one famous Arab from these categories?

Exactly. Zero economic benefit. It's like putting money into Argentina to win the Cricket World Cup final. At least Argentina are good at football.
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That is such a very arrogant and poorly generalised view of a group of people.

I think you need to do some research, there are a lot of well educated Palestinians - infact when compared per ratio they are more educated than many of the Arab countries.

It's easy to finger point but these people have been disgracefully abused and used - not just by the Israelis but by their Arab brothers.

Sure they have never had the best leadership but imagine yourself to be living under occupation where you get abused and humiliated at every checkpoint, where your rights are stripped, where you can get locked up on mere suspicion.

Just imagine being in their shoes instead of painting them as a distain.
 
90MPH said:
That is such a very arrogant and poorly generalised view of a group of people.

I think you need to do some research, there are a lot of well educated Palestinians - infact when compared per ratio they are more educated than many of the Arab countries.

It's easy to finger point but these people have been disgracefully abused and used - not just by the Israelis but by their Arab brothers.

Sure they have never had the best leadership but imagine yourself to be living under occupation where you get abused and humiliated at every checkpoint, where your rights are stripped, where you can get locked up on mere suspicion.

Just imagine being in their shoes instead of painting them as a distain.
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The GoI has been there and done that. And we got nothing in return, so their actions are at least borne out of experience.

You know what the worst slap on the face was? Our country had 120 million Muslims at the time we wanted to join the Organization of Islamic Countries - a figure that is greater than the population all of the Arab nations combined. We were thwarted in spite of our unending support to Palestine which you would think would help in diplomatic situations like those.

Then there is the small matter of not receiving any Arab support in any of our conflicts with Pakistan and the non-stop chattering about Kashmir*. None of these strings are attached with Israel and they're 30 times more resourceful than any Arab state could hope to be - Palestine or anybody else.

The gravitation toward Israel post the Cold War was natural.

* I personally couldn't care less about Kashmir either way so please don't drag the thread in that direction.
 
vagabond007ti said:
LOL.. complete ethnic cleansing of minorities from almost all muslim countries and you dare to lecture others on Hindutva and Zionism.
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Funny... last week there was a state funeral for a German Christian woman in Karachi, Dr. Ruth Pfau. The only other people to receive this state funeral have been Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Zia-ul-Haq and Abdul Sattar Edhi.


Ethnic cleansing


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Plane with 2 Israelis aboard makes emergency Pakistan landing, leaves without incident​


Two Israeli citizens spent a tense few hours on the tarmac on Thursday morning when their flight from Dubai to Sri Lanka made an emergency landing in Pakistan, a Muslim country that does not have diplomatic ties with the Jewish state.

The National Security Council has advised citizens to avoid travel to the country “given the presence and intense activity of terrorist and radical Islamist groups throughout Pakistan, combined with the hostility of the Pakistani public towards Israel.”

Amid the ongoing war in Gaza and a subsequent spike in antisemitism worldwide, the NSC has noted increased attempts by global jihadist organizations, mainly backed by Iran, to inspire lone attackers to target Jews and Israelis abroad.

The Flydubai flight was forced to make an emergency landing in Karachi late Wednesday when one of its passengers fell ill and required a medical evacuation. The Israelis onboard contacted the Foreign Ministry during the stop, while all passengers were required to remain on the plane.

The plane took off a few hours later without incident, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Thursday morning, noting that authorities had ensured the safety of the frightened Israeli passengers.

www.timesofisrael.com

Plane with 2 Israelis aboard makes emergency Pakistan landing, leaves without incident

Foreign Ministry says authorities worked to ensure citizens' safety after their flight from Dubai to Sri Lanka was forced to stop for hours in Karachi to evacuate sick passenger
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com
 
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